THE CHURCH IS NOT THE BRIDE OF CHRIST

[Big Boy Johnson]

JESUS may be late-to-the party, for the amils have satan locked up already.................lol

Yeah I've run across a few that claim the devil was locked up.

I keep asking "WHO keeps letting him out?" and they have no answer

 

[Marilyn C]

That's why I posted "God moves Heaven to earth"



from Heaven to earth after He re-creates the heavens and the earth and locks up all the evil in hell.

You don't have to participate if you don't want to.

There's plenty of room in hell.

You have NOT given any scriptures for God moving heaven to earth.

 

[amigo de christo]

Jesus will not Marry a city.

The new Jerusalem is adorned AS A BRIDE.
( Unparalled beauty)

speaking of marrying
boy does this generation have a serious problem with that one .
Whats next man marries his dog . Oh , but back on the subject
Ya better believe new jerusalem is a adorned as a bride .
HOME of the SHEEP . What thoughts of joy just thinking about seeing the new heavens and new earth one day .
paradise awaits the sheep at the end of our faith
but scaradise awaits all who rejected CHRIST JESUS . wailadise .
seeing some of us desire the death of none
THIS SHEEP shall point TO THE ONLY ONE
HIS NAME BE JESUS and HE IS THE SON
And in HIM is the victory HE has won .
Enjoy that rhyme
for many have no idea we are running out of TIME .
On that day and in that hour
the lambs go home and the wicked get a destructive shower .
SO what time is it one may ask and say
TIME TO PREACH JESUS this very day .
Cause interfaith aint saving a soul
and all who enter it have entered deaths hole .
And the end wont be good for those at all
SO LETS PREACH JESUS , YALL .

 

[amigo de christo]

Yeah I've run across a few that claim the devil was locked up.

I keep asking "WHO keeps letting him out?" and they have no answer

what concerns me is how many have been letting HIM IN .
Into they churches to teach and to seduce this people right into the fat lie .
Many of his co workers now dress even in wool
but the lambs they cannot fool .
FOR KING JESUS has the sheep
And they dont feed from interfaiths STANK heap .
SO enjoy this rhyme and point to CHRIST while it called today
Cause many are under interfaiths sway
And the end of that and all within
Will be a lake of fire and stone called brim
Time to point to the glorious Risen Savoir
For HIS words it be that the sheep do savor and so enjoy that flavor .
FOR IT IS TRUTH indeed my friend . NOW to the trenches one and all .

 

[amigo de christo]

So, the 12 disciples were given the revelation of the Body of Christ? Then why was Peter separating himself from the Gentiles? (Gal. 2: 11 16)

Cause peter feared the circumcision . And paul called HIM OUT for it .
YE live as do the gentiles peter , SO WHY do you compel the gentiles to be as the jew .
Peter got scared . So scared it even caused barnabas and others to DISSUMULATE as well .
THERE IS ONE BODY OF JESUS CHRIST . it is known as the jew and gentile WHO BELEIVES IN JESUS .
They already cleared all this up way back when .
WHEN peter first had that vision and then later goes to the house of cornelious .
THEN when he goes up to the other apostels
WHO had not yet known what peter was now shown . That it was TIME TO PREACH to the gentiles too .
THEY cleared that up a long time ago . LETS NOT go backwards and pick up bad habits .
ONE BODY , ONE BRIDE , also known as WIFE
ONE TRUE JERUSALEM of GOD in the heavens
And its TEMPLE BE GOD AND THE LAMB . IT consists of EVERY JEW and GENTILE that BELEIVES IN KING JESUS . man aint that so
simple .

 

[Marilyn C]

Cause peter feared the circumcision . And paul called HIM OUT for it .
YE live as do the gentiles peter , SO WHY do you compel the gentiles to be as the jew .
Peter got scared . So scared it even caused barnabas and others to DISSUMULATE as well .
THERE IS ONE BODY OF JESUS CHRIST . it is known as the jew and gentile WHO BELEIVES IN JESUS .
They already cleared all this up way back when .
WHEN peter first had that vision and then later goes to the house of cornelious .
THEN when he goes up to the other apostels
WHO had not yet known what peter was now shown . That it was TIME TO PREACH to the gentiles too .
THEY cleared that up a long time ago . LETS NOT go backwards and pick up bad habits .
ONE BODY , ONE BRIDE , also known as WIFE
ONE TRUE JERUSALEM of GOD in the heavens
And its TEMPLE BE GOD AND THE LAMB . IT consists of EVERY JEW and GENTILE that BELEIVES IN KING JESUS . man aint that so
simple .

So, why did the 12 Apostles ask Jesus, ``Lord, will you at this time restore the kingdom (rule) to Israel?` (Acts 1: 6)

Seems they had no idea of the Lord`s future purpose, the Body of Christ.

 

[David in NJ]

So, why did the 12 Apostles ask Jesus, ``Lord, will you at this time restore the kingdom (rule) to Israel?` (Acts 1: 6)

Seems they had no idea of the Lord`s future purpose, the Body of Christ.

EASY one Marilyn

They asked JESUS this before the Baptism of the Holy Spirit descended upon them, which we see in Acts ch2
And it still took more time for the Holy Spirit to guide them into SEEING this Truth taking place in the Gentiles

 

[Marilyn C]

EASY one Marilyn

They asked JESUS this before the Baptism of the Holy Spirit descended upon them.

So, when after the Holy Spirit descended did the 12 Apostles ever preach or teach about the Body of Christ?

 

[amigo de christo]

So, why did the 12 Apostles ask Jesus, ``Lord, will you at this time restore the kingdom (rule) to Israel?` (Acts 1: 6)

Seems they had no idea of the Lord`s future purpose, the Body of Christ.

And it was not for them to know the time or the seasons the FATHER has set in HIS OWN hands .
They just asked a simple questoin is all .
SO lets do the repeat .
ONE BODY , ONE BRIDE which is THIS BODY
One temple WHICH IS GOD and the LAMB and the beleivers as tiny stones added in by faith in Christ .
This body , this wife , the ONE FOLD . yeah it consists of every single
jewish and gentile WHO BELIEVES IN JESUS THE CHRIST .
THEY are THE TRUE PEOPLE OF GOD .
Children of GOD all mighty in CHRIST JESUS . so lets sing one great song of much thanksgivings
TO THE LORD .

 

[David in NJ]

So, when after the Holy Spirit descended did the 12 Apostles ever preach or teach about the Body of Christ?

40 days after they asked JESUS that question the Holy Spirit(HS) descended upon them AND the HS had to do His Work in them as HE did with Peter/Cornelius and of course adding Paul as another Apostle.

Peter, Paul and John were the primary Apostles to be revealed this Truth

It shows up in the Gospel of John, then Acts , then Paul

 

[Marilyn C]

And it was not for them to know the time or the seasons the FATHER has set in HIS OWN hands .
They just asked a simple questoin is all .
SO lets do the repeat .
ONE BODY , ONE BRIDE which is THIS BODY
One temple WHICH IS GOD and the LAMB and the beleivers as tiny stones added in by faith in Christ .
This body , this wife , the ONE FOLD . yeah it consists of every single
jewish and gentile WHO BELIEVES IN JESUS THE CHRIST .
THEY are THE TRUE PEOPLE OF GOD .
Children of GOD all mighty in CHRIST JESUS . so lets sing one great song of much thanksgivings
TO THE LORD .

The 12 Apostles only went to the Jews. Jesus told them that they would sit on 12 thrones judging the 12 tribes of Israel. They are only concerned with the nation of Israel. That is God`s purpose for them. (Matt. 19: 28)

So, when God tells Israel that He is their husband (master) and they are His wife, is He lying? (Isa. 54: 5 & 6)

 

[David in NJ]

The 12 Apostles only went to the Jews. Jesus told them that they would sit on 12 thrones judging the 12 tribes of Israel. They are only concerned with the nation of Israel. That is God`s purpose for them. (Matt. 19: 28)

So, when God tells Israel that He is their husband (master) and they are His wife, is He lying? (Isa. 54: 5 & 6)

They were FIRST to go to the Jewish people but then to more as the HS would reveal to them.

JESUS said = More is to come = John 16:12-15


“I still have many things to say to you, but you cannot bear them now.
However, when He, the Spirit of truth, has come, He will guide you into all truth; for He will not speak on His own authority, but whatever He hears He will speak; and He will tell you things to come. He will glorify Me, for He will take of what is Mine and declare it to you. All things that the Father has are Mine. Therefore I said that He will take of Mine and declare it to you.

 

[amigo de christo]

The 12 Apostles only went to the Jews. Jesus told them that they would sit on 12 thrones judging the 12 tribes of Israel. They are only concerned with the nation of Israel. That is God`s purpose for them. (Matt. 19: 28)

So, when God tells Israel that He is their husband (master) and they are His wife, is He lying? (Isa. 54: 5 & 6)

no GOD never lies .
But not all of ISRAEL is OF ISRAEL . many jews and even many gentiles now follow the well favored Harlot .
AND GOD DARN sure aint NO HUSBAND to that whore .
When oh when will we read the bible for ourselves .
OH how often would i have GATHERED THEE as a MOTHER does her chicks
ONLY YE WOULD NOT .
ONE BODY , ONE WIFE AND BRIDE , One people of GOD , the true children OF GOD .
One city mother Jerusalem , the TEMPLE is GOD and the lamb .
AND EVERY JEW and GENTILE that does so beleive IN JESUS
IS OF this one same body , one same wife , one same bride , one same city
one same temple . Man its truly so simple i believe a child could grasp this .
But me oh my them very scholarly men who always twist things sure have made a mess .
Now IN the trenches the sheep must march while there still be time TO WORK .

 

[amigo de christo]

They were FIRST to go to the Jewish people but then to more as the HS would reveal to them.

JESUS said = More is to come = John 16:12-15


“I still have many things to say to you, but you cannot bear them now.
However, when He, the Spirit of truth, has come, He will guide you into all truth; for He will not speak on His own authority, but whatever He hears He will speak; and He will tell you things to come. He will glorify Me, for He will take of what is Mine and declare it to you. All things that the Father has are Mine. Therefore I said that He will take of Mine and declare it to you.

David its truly so simple a wee child of GOD could have seen and learned the truth .
ONE GOD , ONE CHRIST , ONE SPIRIT , one true Body , one city JERSUALEM mother to the sheep
One temple which is GOD and the lamb
AND the peoples of GOD who are within , EVERY JEW AND GENTILE that does SO BELIEVE IN JESUS THE CHRIST .
THATS YOUR BRIDE , thats the lambs wife and she has made herself ready .
This is so simple . IN fact
i could easily go on to say THERE BE ONLY ONE ISRAEL and not even all of israel BE OF IT .
ONE ISRAEL OF GOD , WITH ITS CITY MOTHER JERUSALEM , WHEREIN GOD and the LAMB are the temple
and each sheep as a wee tiny stone .
ADDED IN THROUGH FAITH IN JESUS . Now how simple is that .
IN fact i will even be so bold as to say
THERE IS TRULY ONLY ONE PEOPLE OF GOD , and those of the flesh AINT IT . YE MUST BE BORN AGAIN
AKA , ONE MUST BELEIVE IN JESUS to become a son or daughter OF GOD . real simple to me my friend .
GOD GONNA GET THE GLORY and JESUS WONT be DENIED . IN fact HE IS THE GLORY OF GOD , THE LIGHT OF GOD
that does SO LIGHTEN this city wherein THERE IS NO darkness
IT cannot be moved , ITS IN the heavens with that lovely TEMPLE which be GOD and the lamb .
MAN its so lovely just to POINT TO GOD and in every word said glorify him and not these men who twisted HIS WORDS .

 

[Titus]

saved......Christ started the body of Christ with Paul's conversion

Doug, Christ did not start the body/church with Paul's conversion​

The body is the church of Christ.

The first people added to Christ's body/church is the jews,
BEFORE Paul was saved.

Acts 2:47,
- praising God and having favour with all the people and the Lord added to the  church daily such as were being saved

The church is made up of jew and gentile,
1Corinthians 12:13,
- for by one Spirit are we all baptized into one  body whether we be jew or gentile

Ephesians 3:6,
- that the gentiles should be fellow heirs and of the same  body and partakers of His promise in Christ Jesus by the gospel

 

[amigo de christo]

Onward christain soliders the hour is late
and the time of the end draws nigh .
The cumilation of all things will massively uptick in these last hours on earth .
The mystery of inquity that began so so long ago
And he who has been lettting it are merging this people to their own day of perdition .
That which is of anti christ that JOHN had warned about
that was even NOW already in the world has captivated almost even the entire realm of christendom now .
The peoples have been made ready , ready and will merge as one
to come against any and all saints who did not conform to the image of what they do so believe is love and of GOD
Blood has always come upon the saints in every generation , THIS LAST ONE will be NO EXCEPTION , ONLY FAR WORSE

 

[Titus]

Let’s critique the argument point by point, using SP principles, textual logic, and full Scriptural integration.

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CLAIM BEING MADE:​

Let’s break this down into sections, evaluate each, and offer a response.

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SECTION 1: 2 Corinthians 11 — Espousal, not Identity​

SP Response:​

• The language Paul uses: “I have espoused you to one husband” is not merely metaphorical. He is acting as a father presenting a virgin bride.
• In SP, espousal language is covenantal language. That is, it signifies a joining, not just an illustration of moral conduct.
• 2 Corinthians 11:2:

This is more than a comparison; it is a pattern repetition of Eve being presented to Adam.

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SECTION 2: Ephesians 5 — Christ is head of the church, but not husband?​

The argument admits marriage language but avoids the bridal identification.

SP Response:​

• Ephesians 5:31–32:

The text does not say “is like” or “as if”—Paul explicitly says:




In SP, mystery = hidden reality made visible by Christ.
This is not analogy, it’s revelation.

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SECTION 3: OT Bridal Imagery Applied Only to Israel​

SP Response:​

• Yes, Israel is called the bride in the OT (Isaiah 62, Hosea 2), because she represents the initial elect covenant people.
• But in SP, we must always ask:

Christ marries:

• Those drawn from Israel (first bride)
• Those drawn from the nations (second bride)

OT Israel is a type, but not the exclusive referent of the bride.

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SECTION 4: Revelation 21 – The New Jerusalem = the Bride​

SP Response:​

Yes—Revelation 21:9–10 says:




But the conclusion that this means the bride is not the church is flawed.


Here’s why:

1. The New Jerusalem is a city composed of people.
   • See Hebrews 12:22–23:
2. The New Jerusalem is prepared as a bride:
   • Rev 21:2: “prepared as a bride adorned for her husband”
   • This is visual language—it means the city is made up of the redeemed, both OT and NT saints.
3. Twelve tribes + Twelve apostles:
   • This shows unity of the covenants—Israel and the Church are joined as one bride.

In SP, Revelation 21 is the final form of the bride—Eve built from the side of the last Adam—not two separate brides.

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SECTION 5: Nations Entering the City (Rev 21:24) = Proof that Church ≠ Bride?​

SP Response:​

• This confuses access to the city with identity as the city.
• The nations bring glory into her because they were redeemed by her intercession (as in Zechariah 8:23).
• The bride is the city—but those outside are not her, even if they are saved.

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Final SP Evaluation:​

Claim Made	SP Verdict

Church is not the bride

Contradicts Paul’s plain teaching (Eph 5)

OT Israel alone is the bride

She is a type, not the fulfillment

Revelation’s “city” is not the church

The city is the final form of the church

Paul only uses espousal metaphorically

He explicitly says it's about Christ and church

There are multiple brides

No SP pattern supports a polygamous Christ

Christ has one bride, formed from both Jew and Gentile, built into one body, presented as one chaste virgin, and united to Him in the heavenly city which is the church in glory.

Excellent work!!!!
What is SP ?
Thanks

 

[amigo de christo]

They were FIRST to go to the Jewish people but then to more as the HS would reveal to them.

JESUS said = More is to come = John 16:12-15


“I still have many things to say to you, but you cannot bear them now.
However, when He, the Spirit of truth, has come, He will guide you into all truth; for He will not speak on His own authority, but whatever He hears He will speak; and He will tell you things to come. He will glorify Me, for He will take of what is Mine and declare it to you. All things that the Father has are Mine. Therefore I said that He will take of Mine and declare it to you.

the hour is very late and the delusion has grown great and greater shall it grow
till it has completely convinced this generation
that the only hope it has for peace n safety IS TO RID this earth of all them dangerous ones
who did not conform . ps , them so called dangerous ones , WILL BE THE NON CONFORMING sheep of JESUS the CHRIST .
Blood has come upon all generations , THIS LAST will be far worse than all .
SO i have no choice but to warn this people , beware of that which is of anti christ and heed not
its cry of love and unity and to merge as one and find common ground , it will be THEIR DOOM on the day of the LORD .
AND i have no choice but to warn and remind us
WE better be willing and ready TO LOSE EVERYTHING , even our own lives . IT WILL GET VERY bad david .
AND I just dont know how much longer till it all BLOWS ITS TOP . but IT WILL BLOW its top
and THEN THEY WILL COME for the saints to rid us from this earth and even believe they do GODS WILL .

 

[Big Boy Johnson]

You have NOT given any scriptures for God moving heaven to earth.

You thought God is going to move Heaven to Uranus?

 

[Marilyn C]

no GOD never lies .
But not all of ISRAEL is OF ISRAEL . many jews and even many gentiles now follow the well favored Harlot .
AND GOD DARN sure aint NO HUSBAND to that whore .
When oh when will we read the bible for ourselves .
OH how often would i have GATHERED THEE as a MOTHER does her chicks
ONLY YE WOULD NOT .
ONE BODY , ONE WIFE AND BRIDE , One people of GOD , the true children OF GOD .
One city mother Jerusalem , the TEMPLE is GOD and the lamb .
AND EVERY JEW and GENTILE that does so beleive IN JESUS
IS OF this one same body , one same wife , one same bride , one same city
one same temple . Man its truly so simple i believe a child could grasp this .
But me oh my them very scholarly men who always twist things sure have made a mess .
Now IN the trenches the sheep must march while there still be time TO WORK .

Oh, so God who is omniscient didn`t realize that fallen men of Israel would not obey. Of course. God is showing that no man, nation, Israel, Gentile, could ever turn to Him without His intervention through Christ.