THE CHURCH IS NOT THE BRIDE OF CHRIST

[Titus]

Quit debating the point with me LOL
You're like a little dog trying to hump someone's leg.
I'M ON YOUR SIDE

Why did you contradict me then?

Church")--plus, Christ addresses "the churches" (in Revelation) LOL!

If you don't want to discuss my points with me then don't address them.

 

[Marilyn C]

"in order that we might bear fruit for God" (instead of for death) removes any ambiguity.

So it says, we being the wife are now pregnant with fruit. Mmmmm

 

[Marilyn C]

According to you, the Apostles disobeyed God, and did not go and teach the nations to observe what ever things He taught them to observe. LOL OK
Isn't that a weird foundation to build on--"My nonsense has to be correct--and, in order for it to be correct, Christ's Apostles were disobedient to Christ!" LOL!

Adam's body was his bride. Not nonsense at all.

Yeah, they were His congregation--today, His congregation is made up of all nations, as He said, "Go make disciples of all nations", and, as Jesus said, because they didn't bring forth the fruit of the vineyard, He would take the Kingdom from them and give it to another people who bring forth its fruit. Deuteronomy 32:21; Ro 11:13.

Dt 32:43“Rejoice, O nations, with His people : the nations are now part of His congregation.

Not sure what "oops" you're referring to. Please clarify. Are you saying the unbelieving Jews still have God's presence (Ex 33:15)?

Answer for why you arbitrarily exclude Paul from "remnant of Israel church" LOL
Your lack of a response on that point is conspicuous.

But you give NO scriptures to support your claim! Just your opinion.

We don`t come out of Christ`s body we are born again of incorruptible SEED through the word of God. (1 Peter 1: 23)

yes, take the kingdom rule from the nation of Israel in Jesus` time and give it to the nation of Israel at the end of the trib. (Zech. 12: 10)

God didn`t work with the OT saints and Israel for centuries to have them wiped off. All purposes are fulfilled in Christ. However, not are all in one place in God`s great kingdom.

You ask scriptures from me yet you continually ignore when I ask. That is hypocritical.

Where does it say the `remnant of Israel church?` If I have a scripture then I can answer.

 

[Marilyn C]

Thanks,
Acts 2 the church is the church of Christ not the church in the wilderness.
In the new covenant there is only one church.
Do you believe Paul?
There cannot be te churches in the new testament gospel of Jesus Christ.

How many churches did Jesus say He would build?

Remember the church in the wilderness already existed when Jesus said He will build His church.

Matthew 16:18-19,
How many did He say He will build?

Yes, the church in the wilderness purpose has been put on hold till the Lord comes to deliver Israel and judge the nations. (Zech. 12: 10)

Jesus said He would build His ekklesia, the called out ones, which as we know now is the Body of Christ. The church ekklesia, called out of the nations (Israel) was already built and was going through their chastisement.

 

[Marilyn C]

Yes but a ruler is ruling something, surely...?

Yes, and He rules. It is not talking about land, as God made it all and never gave it away. people think when God talks about kingdom it means he is going to take over the earth. Well, He never gave it away. God is talking about rulership.

 

[Titus]

Yes, the church in the wilderness purpose has been put on hold till the Lord comes to deliver Israel and judge the nations. (Zech. 12: 10)

Jesus said He would build His ekklesia, the called out ones, which as we know now is the Body of Christ. The church ekklesia, called out of the nations (Israel) was already built and was going through their chastisement.

Which church is the church in Acts 2:47?
The church in the wilderness or the body of Christ?

 

[Marilyn C]

1. Yes, everyone claims their posts are Bible teaching.
2. I was being sarcastic, because these people are ridiculous.

`these people????` I think you need to learn to speak better to others and not denigrate them. This is what God`s word says about how we are to behave when teaching. Do you qualify?

`And a servant of the Lord must not quarrel but be gentle to all, able to teach, patient, in humility correcting those who are in opposition, if perhaps God will grant them repentance, so they may know the truth.` (2 Tim. 2: 24 & 25)

 

[Marilyn C]

Which church is the church in Acts 2:47?
The church in the wilderness or the body of Christ?

We agree on who they are, so why are you continuing.

 

[GracePeace]

Why did you contradict me then?

If you don't want to discuss my points with me then don't address them.

I put "LOL" and I literally said I was being sarcastic. It was a joke--laughing at Marilyn and Doug's nonsense.

 

[Titus]

We agree on who they are, so why are you continuing.

No, I need to know which church you classify as the church in Acts 2:47. Thanks

 

[Marilyn C]

I put "LOL" and I literally said I was being sarcastic. It was a joke--laughing at Marilyn and Doug's nonsense.

I don`t believe you are qualified to discuss for you are not - patient, gentle or have humility

`And a servant of the Lord must not quarrel but be gentle to all, able to teach, patient, in humility correcting those who are in opposition, if perhaps God will grant them repentance, so they may know the truth.` (2 Tim. 2: 24 & 25)

As is apparent to all reading that when someone resorts to putting down others then they are scraping the barrel of their knowledge.

 

[Marilyn C]

No, I need to know which church you classify as the church in Acts 2:47. Thanks

Why when I have replied before.

 

[GracePeace]

So it says, we being the wife are now pregnant with fruit. Mmmmm

"Already but not yet" : we have the spirit of adoption, but we do not have the adoption of the body, etc.

 

[GracePeace]

I don`t believe you are qualified to discuss for you are not - patient, gentle or have humility

`And a servant of the Lord must not quarrel but be gentle to all, able to teach, patient, in humility correcting those who are in opposition, if perhaps God will grant them repentance, so they may know the truth.` (2 Tim. 2: 24 & 25)

As is apparent to all reading that when someone resorts to putting down others then they are scraping the barrel of their knowledge.

Just deal with the responses.

 

[Marilyn C]

"Already but not yet" : we have the spirit of adoption, but we do not have the adoption of the body, etc.

`...in bring man SONS to glory.` (Heb. 2: 10)

If you want to be a female then I can`t help you.

 

[Titus]

Why when I have replied before.

I'm sorry but I'm confused I guess?
Not sure which church you believe Acts 2:47 is?
The church of the wilderness or the church of Christ?

 

[Marilyn C]

Just deal with the responses.

Only if they are polite.

 

[Marilyn C]

I'm sorry but I'm confused I guess?
Not sure which church you believe Acts 2:47 is?
The church of the wilderness or the church of Christ?

Acts 2: 47 is the beginning of the Body of Christ - the ekklesia of called out ones from Israel and the nations.

`This is he who was in the Church in the wilderness with the angel who spoke to him on Mount Sinai, and with our fathers, the one who received the living oracles to give to us....` (Acts 7: 38)

I`m saying that God recognizes the two churches/ekklesia that He made - Israel and the Body of Christ.

See post 786

 

[GracePeace]

But you give NO scriptures to support your claim! Just your opinion.

No, logically, if Jesus said "Go into all the nations and teach them to observe what ever I have taught you", and the Apostles DID NOT go, they would have disobeyed Him! That is literally your position--if not, make it clear. The reality is that your position crumbles in the face of plain Scripture--ie, you tried to say "that only applies to Israel", but, no, Christ said "go teach it to all the nations"--and you can't handle it, so you say "No, the disciples did not go into all the nations". Your position is indefensible.

We don`t come out of Christ`s body we are born again of incorruptible SEED through the word of God. (1 Peter 1: 23)

Christ is the Seed, the Word of God.

yes, take the kingdom rule from the nation of Israel in Jesus` time and give it to the nation of Israel at the end of the trib. (Zech. 12: 10)

Nope, "give it to another nation bearing its fruit". You really have a hard time accepting Scripture.
Do you know that you're lying, or is that plain truth hidden from you like the Scriptures' plain truths are hidden from you?

God didn`t work with the OT saints and Israel for centuries to have them wiped off. All purposes are fulfilled in Christ. However, not are all in one place in God`s great kingdom.

I really don't know what you're arguing, here. The Scripture is clear that the nations rejoice with His people (Peter, Paul, etc), etc, etc,, and you have no answer for it.

You ask scriptures from me yet you continually ignore when I ask. That is hypocritical.

I don't know what you're complaining about--your position is literally that the Apostles disobeyed Christ, and did not go into all the nations. You know, I could even grant that to you, and you'd still be wrong : in Christ's mind, everything He taught was to be observed by the nations, even if the Apostles disobeyed Christ.

Where does it say the `remnant of Israel church?` If I have a scripture then I can answer.

Sorry, if you don't hold to Doug's view, I take it back--you believe in "Church of Israel"?

 

[GracePeace]

`...in bring man SONS to glory.` (Heb. 2: 10)

If you want to be a female then I can`t help you.

Who said men physically become women?
I can't rewrite scripture just because you have a hangup.
SPIRITUALLY, the body of Christ is the bride of Christ, just as Adam's own body was his bride.
You have no answer for that, right?