THE CHURCH IS NOT THE BRIDE OF CHRIST

[Marilyn C]

Who said men become females?
I can't rewrite scripture just because you have a hangup.
SPIRITUALLY, the body of Christ is the bride of Christ, just as Adam's own body was his bride.
You have no answer for that, right?

So `many sons` should really be many` females?`

 

[GracePeace]

So `many sons` should really be many` females?`

I guess you're completely unfamiliar with Scripture : God called Israel "My firstborn son" AND referred to them as "sisters" (in Ezekiel), AND said He was married to them. You want to try to physicalize these things to make them problematic, but, again, your ignorant nonsense crumbles in the face of Scripture. You are ridiculous and ignorant.

 

[Titus]

See post 761.

`This is he who was in the Church in the wilderness with the angel who spoke to him on Mount Sinai, and with our fathers, the one who received the living oracles to give to us....` (Acts 7: 38)

I`m saying that God recognizes the two churches/ekklesia that He made - Israel and the Body of Christ.

Thanks,
Jesus died for His church.
So the body of Christ is the church in Acts 2:47 as Jesus is dead and ressurected having left earth now in heaven, when those that were being saved were added to the church in Acts 2:47.

Colossians 3:18,
- and Jesus is the Head of the body the church who is the beginning the firstborn from the  dead that in all things He might have the preeminence

The church in Acts 2:47 cannot be the church in the wilderness as Christ has already died for His church. Acts 2:47 is the church of Christ.
Do you agree?

 

[Marilyn C]

I guess you're completely unfamiliar with Scripture : God called Israel "My firstborn son" AND referred to them as "sisters" (in Ezekiel), AND said He was married to them. You want to try to physicalize these things to make them problematic, but, again, your ignorant nonsense crumbles in the face of Scripture. You are ridiculous and ignorant.

Yes God calls Israel by various names as to His relationship with them.

If you continue to denigrate me our discussion is finished.

 

[Marilyn C]

Thanks,
Jesus died for His church.
So the body of Christ is the church in Acts 2:47 as Jesus is dead and ressurected having left earth now in heaven, when those that were being saved were added to the church in Acts 2:47.

Colossians 3:18,
- and Jesus is the Head of the body the church who is the beginning the firstborn from the  dead that in all things He might have the preeminence

The church in Acts 2:47 cannot be the church in the wilderness as Christ has already died for His church. Acts 2:47 is the church of Christ.
Do you agree?

Yes.

 

[Marilyn C]

No, logically, if Jesus said "Go into all the nations and teach them to observe what ever I have taught you", and the Apostles DID NOT go, they would have disobeyed Him! That is literally your position--if not, make it clear. The reality is that your position crumbles in the face of plain Scripture--ie, you tried to say "that only applies to Israel", but, no, Christ said "go teach it to all the nations"--and you can't handle it, so you say "No, the disciples did not go into all the nations". Your position is indefensible.

Christ is the Seed, the Word of God.

Nope, "give it to another nation bearing its fruit". You really have a hard time accepting Scripture.
Do you know that you're lying, or is that plain truth hidden from you like the Scriptures' plain truths are hidden from you?

I really don't know what you're arguing, here. The Scripture is clear that the nations rejoice with His people (Peter, Paul, etc), etc, etc,, and you have no answer for it.

I don't know what you're complaining about--your position is literally that the Apostles disobeyed Christ, and did not go into all the nations. You know, I could even grant that to you, and you'd still be wrong : in Christ's mind, everything He taught was to be observed by the nations, even if the Apostles disobeyed Christ.

Sorry, if you don't hold to Doug's view, I take it back--you believe in "Church of Israel"?

As you are not giving scriptures but just your opinions then discussion is not profitable.

 

[GracePeace]

Yes God calls Israel by various names as to His relationship with them.

God doesn't just "call" them His wife, He said "your Maker is your Husband" Isaiah 54:5, and, accordingly, describes Israel's idolatry as "adultery" in Hosea. He RELATES to them as Husband. Oh, but they're His son, so how could He do that? LOL! You are completely out of your depth--and we're still in the shallow end of the pool!

If you continue to denigrate me our discussion is finished.

Be worthy of respect, and you'll get it--instead, you dismiss any Scripture that debunks your poppycock--in reality, you're the epitome of why women, who, of course, WISH to be teachers, can never be teachers over men, nor wield authority over a man. You are the weaker vessel--that refers to the weakness of your mind, which was deceived, because it is weak, whereas "Adam was not deceived".

 

[GracePeace]

As you are not giving scriptures but just your opinions then discussion is not profitable.

Oh, I thought I was discussing with a "bible college" student or graduate. I thought you would be familiar, and know which Scriptures I was alluding to. Did you really need me to cite every verse instead of alluding to them?

 

[Lizbeth]

You don't understand the magnitude of this subject if you think it doesn't have great importance.

Paul was not referring to any of the apostles.
There was a group of men falsely claiming to be apostles.
They did not have the Holy Spirit.
Their teachings were not Inspired.

I've taught what Jesus said on this matter with book, chapter and verse.
The Bible teaches us there were no prominent apostles.
Jesus taught against it.

You're misunderstanding what I meant about not making this seem over-important. All scripture and all truth of course is important, but there are things the Lord wouldn't have us make too much of, for example in the way that Catholicism does.

I was referring to this verse, in which Paul mentioned Peter (also called Cephas), James and John, which definitely was referring to those three apostles....

Gal 2:9
And when James, Cephas, and John, who seemed to be pillars, perceived the grace that was given unto me, they gave to me and Barnabas the right hands of fellowship; that we should go unto the heathen, and they unto the circumcision.

 

[Lizbeth]

Actually, we are born of the `incorruptible seed` through the word of God.

`...having been born again, not of corruptible seed but incorruptible, through the word of God which lives and abides for ever. ` (1 Peter 1: 23)

Amen, very true, but that doesn't cancel out other analogies and aspects of how we are born again.

 

[GracePeace]

LOL! @Marilyn C was getting absolutely hammered in debate, so she shifted the issue to "show me respect" so that she could run away--it appears--she had enough of having to actually call the Apostles "disobedient", etc, lying against Scripture, to uphold her nonsense, so she decided to bow out. Sounds good!

 

[Titus]

Yes

Jews and gentiles are both saved in the body of Christ.

You're misunderstanding what I meant about not making this seem over-important. All scripture and all truth of course is important, but there are things the Lord wouldn't have us make too much of, for example in the way that Catholicism does.

I was referring to this verse, in which Paul mentioned Peter (also called Cephas), James and John, which definitely was referring to those three apostles....

Gal 2:9
And when James, Cephas, and John, who seemed to be pillars, perceived the grace that was given unto me, they gave to me and Barnabas the right hands of fellowship; that we should go unto the heathen, and they unto the circumcision.

And I think it's not a coincidence that that these were the same three Jesus took with Him to witness His transfiguration.

I dont know if you read all of my posts but those verses were already explained by me.
None of the verses you used teach prominence among the apostles.

I would appreciate you including book chapter and verse to avoid confusion.

The private discussion is recorded in Acts 15. Apostles and elders of the church came together to discuss the matter of the Jews binding circumcision and commanding that the gentile Christians keep the law of Moses.

Paul repeats this twice Galatians 2:6 ; 9
Leading men are referred to as Pillars of the church.
That word is reference to elders and apostles in the church.
Specifically James, Cephas, John.
Pillar simply means men that were respected in the church.
This has NOTHING to do with ranking among the apostles.
Proof of this is Cephas was not even an apostle!!! Yet he was one of the Pillars.
So in no way is the context implying greater apostles over other apostles as Pillars in the church

I just realized I made a mistake. It was James who was not an apostle.
Cephas or Peter was.
Paul is speaking of Jesus' brother, James in Galatians 2 as a pillar.
This James was never an apostle.
Only two apostles mentioned. Elders are not apostles.
Although an apostle could become an elder in the church.

James the apostle was dead before Paul wrote his epistle to the Galatians.
Acts 12:1-2,
- now about the time Herod stretched forth his hand to vex certain of the church
And he killed James the brother of John with the sword

I knew there was only two apostles and one elder of the church that were referred to as pillars in the church that Paul spoke of in Galatians 2.
I mistakenly typed the wrong name. I apologize.

But you are mistaken.
There were not three apostles mentioned.
There were two and one elder.

 

[Lizbeth]

Yes, and He rules. It is not talking about land, as God made it all and never gave it away. people think when God talks about kingdom it means he is going to take over the earth. Well, He never gave it away. God is talking about rulership.

God had delegated rule of this world to Lucifer....prince of this world.....the ruling angelic principality of it. But with God always sovereign over all. But we we know Satan fell and in the fullness of time Jesus in defeating him took the rule from him, or we could say the Father took the rule away from Satan and gave it to His Son. But regardless of who is ruling this world, the world is only temporal, and we are told this world is going to pass away one day....and that it is going to burn up at the return of Christ, and so we look for a new heavens and new earth. ("New" and "renewed" in scripture speaks to something being made spiritual and eternal, no longer earthly or carnal and temporal. So we are not supposed to be "looking" for and expecting a kingdom on this earth, but Peter wrote we "look for a NEW heavens and new earth"

Rulership is part of having a kingdom, I agree, but I think we need to look at the general point Jesus was making in the passage we're talking about:

Luk 17:20-24

And when he was demanded of the Pharisees, when the kingdom of God should come, he answered them and said, The kingdom of God cometh not with observation:

Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.

And he said unto the disciples, The days will come, when ye shall desire to see one of the days of the Son of man, and ye shall not see it.

And they shall say to you, See here; or, see there: go not after them, nor follow them.

For as the lightning, that lighteneth out of the one part under heaven, shineth unto the other part under heaven; so shall also the Son of man be in his day.

The Pharisees and Jews of that day were expecting a visible earthly kingdom. An earthly utopia. Jesus was correcting that carnal understanding and letting them know His kingdom is not earthly like earthly kingdoms that one can see with the natural eyes and point to it (lo here or lo there it is). His kingdom is not temporal, it is spiritual/heavenly and thus eternal. (In the exact same way He was also saying His coming and return is not the way that we might think in our carnal thinking.)

 

[Lizbeth]

Jews and gentiles are both saved in the body of Christ.

I dont know if you read all of my posts but those verses were already explained by me.
None of the verses you used teach prominence among the apostles.

I would appreciate you including book chapter and verse to avoid confusion.

I just realized I made a mistake. It was James who was not an apostle.
Cephas or Peter was.
Paul is speaking of Jesus' brother, James in Galatians 2 as a pillar.
This James was never an apostle.
Only two apostles mentioned. Elders are not apostles.
Although an apostle could become an elder in the church.

James the apostle was dead before Paul wrote his epistle to the Galatians.
Acts 12:1-2,
- now about the time Herod stretched forth his hand to vex certain of the church
And he killed James the brother of John with the sword

I knew there was only two apostles and one elder of the church that were referred to as pillars in the church that Paul spoke of in Galatians 2.
I mistakenly typed the wrong name. I apologize.

But you are mistaken.
There were not three apostles mentioned.
There were two and one elder.

In Gal 2:9 Paul was referring to something that had happened in the past, not long after Paul was saved....apparently before James was martyred.

 

[Lizbeth]

LOL! @Marilyn C was getting absolutely hammered in debate, so she shifted the issue to "show me respect" so that she could run away--it appears--she had enough of having to actually call the Apostles "disobedient", etc, lying against Scripture, to uphold her nonsense, so she decided to bow out. Sounds good!

This is not about winning arguments. It should be about helping one another, shouldn't it? Gloating doesn't help, instead it HINDERS.

 

[RenewedStrength316]

Just give me few of the promises you are heir to...... you dont have to even give me chapter and verse.....this shouldnt be difficult since you say they are evident

Doug,

You stand as a mocker at the gates of salvation, demanding “proof” as if the promises of God are hidden riddles, when they blaze clear as the sun to any who have eyes to see and ears to hear. Your arrogance is a stench before the holy God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob.

Hear now the undeniable, unshakable promises you try to dodge, promises that cut like a sword and heal like balm—offered freely to those who repent and believe in Jesus Christ:

1. Adoption as sons and daughters of God — “He predestined us for adoption as sons through Jesus Christ, according to the purpose of his will” (Ephesians 1:5). This is your new identity. Without it, you are still a child of wrath (Ephesians 2:3). This promise cannot be revoked or reasoned away.


2. The gift of the Holy Spirit — “That the blessing of Abraham might come on the Gentiles through Jesus Christ, so that we might receive the promise of the Spirit through faith” (Galatians 3:14). The Spirit is your seal and guarantee. To reject this is to walk in darkness, no matter how loudly you speak.


3. Eternal life through faith in Christ — “Whoever has the Son has life; whoever does not have the Son of God does not have life” (1 John 5:12). This is not wishful thinking. It is an unbreakable covenant written in the blood of Jesus.


4. Victory over sin and death — “But thanks be to God, who gives us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ!” (1 Corinthians 15:57). Your doubt will not resurrect the dead nor break sin’s chains. Only Christ’s power does.


5. Peace that surpasses all understanding — “And the peace of God, which surpasses all understanding, will guard your hearts and your minds in Christ Jesus” (Philippians 4:7). This peace is a fortress, not fragile sentiment.



You mock and question the Bride of Christ as if you wield truth, but your words are the tools of the enemy sowing discord and division.

> “They have healed the wound of my people lightly, saying, ‘Peace, peace,’ when there is no peace.” — Jeremiah 6:14



Your accusations betray a heart hardened by pride, not illumined by the Spirit. You claim to protect Scripture but you fracture it with your own hands, twisting God’s Word to feed doubt rather than faith.

Know this: The Bride is the body of Christ—called, sanctified, and purchased with His own blood. To separate her from the promises of God is heresy, plain and simple.

> “For the husband is the head of the wife as Christ is the head of the church, his body, of which he is the Savior.” — Ephesians 5:23
“You also, like living stones, are being built into a spiritual house to be a holy priesthood.” — 1 Peter 2:5



If you truly seek truth, then throw off your pride, humble yourself, and turn from your rebellion.

> “Therefore, repent and turn back, that your sins may be blotted out.” — Acts 3:19
“If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins.” — 1 John 1:9



Refuse to repent, and you remain a fool who scoffs at the eternal covenant and mocks the Lamb who shed His blood for sinners like you.

> “The scoffer seeks wisdom and finds none, but knowledge comes easily to the discerning.” — Proverbs 14:6
“Whoever believes in the Son has eternal life, but whoever rejects the Son will not see life.” — John 3:36



Doug, this is a battle for your soul. Stand either under the banner of the true and living God or be swept away by the flood of your own unbelief.

I pray you are brought low by this word, broken, and crushed until Christ is all you have and all you want.

The sword is drawn. Repent. Submit. Live.

 

[RenewedStrength316]

Mmm I don`t seem to have that scripture in my Bible about Thomas going to India.

As to the `good news,` yes Peter and Paul agreed that Jesus was Lord and Messiah and that the Holy Spirit was given to the Gentiles, however, where do you read of Peter teaching about the Body of Christ? That was the revelation given to Paul which Peter could not understand. (2 Peter 3: 16)

I see your words, and I see the spiritual fog you’re swimming in. You claim to stand on Scripture, but your arguments drip with confusion, division, and a refusal to embrace the fullness of God’s revealed truth.

Let me cut through the polite veneer and lay bare the gospel you so stubbornly resist:

1. Ridicule is not the enemy here; error is. The sharp sword of truth isn’t meant to boost pride—it’s meant to cut through lies. If you cannot handle correction, you’ve mistaken comfort for faith.


2. You say Israel was called the Ekklesia and that the Bride is just an Old Testament symbol for Israel. That’s a half-truth twisted to death. The Church—the Body and Bride—is not Israel, but grafted in (Romans 11:17-24). The New Testament reveals a mystery that was hidden but now is made plain: Jew and Gentile united in one new man (Ephesians 2:15-16). To deny this is to trap yourself in legalism and miss the glorious gospel.


3. You challenge the doctrine of the Body of Christ before Paul’s revelation, asking for Scriptures where the twelve disciples taught it. The mystery of the Body of Christ was hidden in the Old Testament and unveiled through Paul by God’s sovereign timing (Ephesians 3:3-6). That doesn’t mean the twelve were liars or ignorant, it means the fullness of God’s plan unfolded progressively. You mistake chronology for contradiction.


4. You question how the Bride can be the Body or when the Church became ‘female.’ You wield fleshly logic against divine mystery. Christ is the Bridegroom; the Church is His Bride (Revelation 21:2, 9). To be “one flesh” with Christ is spiritual union—deep, intimate, transformative. Your refusal to grasp this reveals a spiritual blindness, not a scriptural problem.


5. You mention Jesus’ kingdom is not of this world and imply that His authority isn’t connected to the Church. A shallow reading. Jesus reigns supreme over heaven and earth (Ephesians 1:20-22). The Church is His Kingdom in manifestation on earth—His body empowered by the Spirit to rule and reign (Matthew 16:18-19; 1 Corinthians 15:24-28).


6. You admit Peter didn’t teach the Body of Christ doctrine because he didn’t understand Paul’s revelation, then question Paul’s authority. You’re picking at scabs. Paul’s apostolic authority is clear, divinely appointed (Galatians 1:11-12). To reject Paul’s revelation is to reject God’s plan for this age.



Marilyn, the gospel is not a playground for intellectual sparring or half-measures. It is the sword that divides soul and spirit (Hebrews 4:12). Your hesitance, your doubts, your demands for “proof” while ignoring clear scripture is rebellion cloaked as “discussion.”

Repent. Lay down your pride. Receive the full gospel—Bride and Body, Jew and Gentile united in Christ by Spirit and blood.

The hour is urgent. God’s Word does not return void. It burns like fire, and it will consume falsehood.

Will you stand with God’s revealed truth or cling to your divided confusion?

 

[RenewedStrength316]

You have to prove that.

Where in God`s word do you see the 12 disciples going to the nations of the world?

The Body cannot be a Body and a Bride. Nonsense.

It is God who called Israel the Church in the wilderness. (Acts 7: 38)

Yes we, the believers in the Body of Christ are all baptised into one Body. However, God did not do an oops for 4,000 years.

Marilyn,

You demand proof? Good. Then let the sword come down, not with speculation or pride, but with the written Word of God, which you claim to follow but clearly divide against itself.


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1. Where do the 12 go to the nations of the world?

Matthew 28:19-20 —

> “Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, teaching them to observe all that I have commanded you.”



That wasn’t a suggestion—it was a command. And they obeyed:

Colossians 1:6 —

> “...the gospel which has come to you, as indeed in the whole world it is bearing fruit and increasing...”



Romans 10:18 —

> “Their sound went into all the earth, and their words unto the ends of the world.”



You ask where the 12 went? Read Acts. Read early Church history. Read your Bible without blinders. They went to Antioch, to Samaria, to Ethiopia, to Asia Minor, to Babylon, to the Greek world, and yes—history records Thomas went to India. You “don’t have that scripture”? Of course not—it’s not in Acts, it’s in the witness of the very men you now question.


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2. “The Body cannot be the Body and the Bride.”

That’s your logic—not God’s.

Ephesians 5:30-32 —

> “We are members of His body, of His flesh and of His bones. ‘For this reason a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh.’ This mystery is profound, and I am saying that it refers to Christ and the Church.”



You say the Bride is Israel only. Yet Paul explicitly calls the Church Christ’s Bride through the marriage imagery of Adam and Eve. Is Paul wrong? Or is your system too rigid to let Scripture speak?

You can’t dismiss this. It’s clear, explicit, and Spirit-breathed.


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3. “God called Israel the Church in the wilderness.”

Correct—Israel was a called-out assembly (ekklesia). So was the mob in Acts 19:32.

But just because two things share the word ekklesia does not mean they are the same body. Context matters.

The Church—the Body of Christ—was a mystery hidden in God and revealed through Paul:

Ephesians 3:4-6 —

> “...the mystery of Christ, which was not made known to the sons of men in other generations... This mystery is that the Gentiles are fellow heirs, members of the same body, and partakers of the promise in Christ Jesus through the gospel.”




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4. “God didn’t do an oops for 4,000 years.”

No one said He did.

God progressively revealed His plan: first to Abraham, then through Israel, then through Christ, then through the apostles—and then through Paul came the full unveiling of the mystery of the Body, Bride, and Kingdom. That’s not an oops—that’s divine orchestration.

> “In the fullness of time, God sent forth His Son...” — Galatians 4:4
“...the mystery hidden for ages... now revealed to His saints.” — Colossians 1:26




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Final Word

Your logic cannot bind what God has joined. You split the Body from the Bride. You divide Israel from the Church as if God now works on two separate paths. But Paul says:

Ephesians 2:14-16 —

> “He Himself is our peace, who has made us both one... that He might create in Himself one new man in place of the two...”



God is not confused, Marilyn. But your doctrine is.


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️ You want proof?

Here it is, written in fire and sealed with blood:
The Church is the Body, the Bride, the Household, the Temple, the Army, the New Man, the City, the Children—all united in Christ.

He didn’t start over with Paul.
He fulfilled what was planned before the foundation of the world (Eph. 1:4–5).
That’s not an “oops.” That’s glory.

Repent of your fractured theology. Lay down your sword of opinion. Pick up the Word again, and read it like you’ve never read it before—because the One who wrote it is knocking at your door.

The time is late.
A Watchman with Fire in His Bones
Ezekiel 33:7 | Revelation 19:10 | Jeremiah 23:29

 

[RenewedStrength316]

HEAVEN ROARS: THE BRIDE IS THE BODY, AND SHE’S PREPARED FOR WAR

> “And the Spirit and the Bride say, Come!”
— Revelation 22:17



To all who war against the mystery of Christ—those who speak softly while sowing division, who label the Bride of Christ as a contradiction, who claim the Body and Bride are not one—this is not written for your comfort. It is written as a prophetic indictment. A trumpet blast. A sword unsheathed.

Doug. Marilyn. You are not defending God’s Word. You are challenging what Christ died to establish. The Bride is not a theological afterthought. She is the Lamb’s reward. The Church is not Israel’s understudy. She is the temple of the living God.

You claim Paul and Peter preached different gospels. You claim the Church is not the Bride. You fracture the unity of the Spirit with false distinctions.

The blood of Jesus cries out against this.


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1. ONE GOSPEL, ONE PEOPLE, ONE BRIDE

> “There is neither Jew nor Greek, slave nor free, male nor female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus.” — Galatians 3:28
“And if you are Christ's, then you are Abraham's offspring, heirs according to promise.” — Galatians 3:29



To divide the people of God into two eternally separate identities—one earthly (Israel), one heavenly (Church)—is to slice the cross in half. Paul was not correcting Jesus. He was revealing what Jesus already began:

Jesus called His Ekklesia (Matt. 16:18)

Jesus broke down the wall (Eph. 2:14)

Jesus sent the Spirit upon all flesh (Acts 2:17)


You say the Bride is Israel. You say the Body is the Church.

But Scripture says the Bride is the Body:

> “Husbands, love your wives as Christ loved the Church...” — Ephesians 5:25
“This mystery is great—but I am speaking with reference to Christ and the Church.” — Ephesians 5:32




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2. A BODY WITHOUT A BRIDE IS A DEAD GROOM

Jesus is not marrying a geopolitical nation. He is not divided. He is the Head of the Body—and the Head does not marry one bride while His Body marries another.

Ephesians 5 is not a metaphor about Israel. It is a revelation about the oneness of Christ and the Church. Bone of His bone. Flesh of His flesh.

> “We are members of His body—of His flesh and of His bones.” — Ephesians 5:30



Who are we to divide what God has joined?


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3. THE CITY IS THE BRIDE BECAUSE THE PEOPLE ARE THE BRIDE

> “Come, I will show you the Bride, the Wife of the Lamb. And he carried me away... and showed me the holy city, Jerusalem.” — Revelation 21:9–10



Marilyn, Doug—you say, "See, the Bride is a city." But that city has twelve foundations named after the apostles of the Lamb. It is filled with those whose names are written in the Lamb’s Book of Life. It is described as a wife prepared for her husband.

This is not about geography. This is about glory.

> “The city has no need of sun or moon... for the glory of God gives it light, and its lamp is the Lamb.” — Revelation 21:23



The Bride is the Church, clothed in righteous acts (Rev. 19:8), and dwelling forever with her Groom.


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4. PETER PREACHED THE SAME CHRIST

You say Peter never preached the Body. You say the twelve were not sent to the world.

But Scripture says:

> “Go therefore and make disciples of all nations... teaching them to observe all I have commanded.” — Matthew 28:19-20
“And the gospel must first be proclaimed to all nations.” — Mark 13:10



Peter preached Christ crucified. Peter opened the door to the Gentiles (Acts 10). Peter called Paul’s writings Scripture (2 Peter 3:16).

And while tradition holds that Thomas went to India, your rejection of extra-biblical history doesn't erase the command: Go to the nations.

The Church is not a Pauline invention. It is a Christ-centered organism born by the Spirit.


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5. THE MYSTERY WAS HIDDEN, NOT CONTRADICTORY

> “The mystery hidden for ages... now revealed to His saints.” — Colossians 1:26



God did not change the plan. He revealed it. He always intended to bring Jew and Gentile into one body (Eph. 3:6). He always planned to dwell with a united Bride (John 17:20-23).

The Old Testament concealed it. The New Testament revealed it.

But the covenant was always rooted in faith, not in flesh.

> “Not all who are descended from Israel belong to Israel.” — Romans 9:6




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6. THE BRIDE IS ARMED FOR BATTLE

> “The armies of heaven, clothed in fine linen, white and clean, followed Him on white horses.” — Revelation 19:14



Those clothed in fine linen are the saints (Rev. 19:8).

Those who ride with Christ are not passive spectators. They are His Bride, made ready through fire, purified by persecution, and robed in righteousness.

You say we are not female. But the Church is called:

The Bride (Rev. 21)

The Wife (Rev. 19:7)

The Virgin Betrothed to Christ (2 Cor. 11:2)


This isn’t about gender. It’s about covenant intimacy.


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7. THE BRIDE IS ONE. THE GOSPEL IS ONE. THE KINGDOM IS ONE.

Jesus is not returning for two wives. He is not ruling two peoples with two destinies. He is not divided in His flesh or His promises.

> “Christ loved the Church and gave Himself for her.” — Ephesians 5:25



The same Lamb that saved the remnant of Israel has grafted in the wild branches.

> “And so all Israel will be saved...” — Romans 11:26



Not through the Law. Not through a national revival. But through faith in Christ.


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FINAL WARNING: DO NOT DIVIDE THE WORD OF TRUTH WITH A LIE

You demand evidence. You deny the Bride. You twist Paul against Peter. You tear the Body into dispensational fragments.

But hear this:

> “If anyone preaches another gospel than what we have preached... let him be accursed.” — Galatians 1:8



This is not harmless theology. This is war against the testimony of Jesus.

You have been warned.


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THE BRIDE STANDS. THE LAMB REIGNS. THE SPIRIT SPEAKS.

We are not confused. We are not deceived. We are not ashamed.

We are the Body and the Bride. Washed in blood. Filled with Spirit. Seated with Christ.

Come, Lord Jesus. Come for Your Bride. Come for Your Body. Come for Your Church.

Until He comes, Let the sword of the Word remain drawn.
Let the watchmen cry aloud.
Let the Bride make herself ready.

> “And to her it was granted to be arrayed in fine linen, clean and bright, for the fine linen is the righteous acts of the saints.” — Revelation 19:8

 

[GracePeace]

So `many sons` should really be many` females?`

So, you want to be a man? LOL!
The very same criticism you want to level at my understanding applies to your own--but you don't realize or won't acknowledge it! "Rules for thee, none for me."? Hypocrisy? Is that how to "rightly divide the word of truth"? Literally nothing you say stands any amount of scrutiny; you're all tangled up, self-contradictory, and confused, calling the Apostles disobedient to uphold your nonsensical claim that Christ only meant to say the things that destroy your nonsense to "the church of Israel" and not to all nations He COMMANDED the Apostles to go preach to. "No, I'm right--the Apostles disobeyed Christ!" You and your little bible certificate are ridiculous.

But, yes, clearly you want to be a man, because you think you're some kind of a teacher--you'll never be a man, and you'll never be a valid teacher of the Word.