Sound Doctrine (Second Coming of Christ in that generation.)

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ὑγιαινούσῃ (hygiainousē)
Verb - Present Participle Active - Dative Feminine Singular
Strong's 5198: From hugies; to have sound health, i.e. Be well; figuratively, to be uncorrupt.


doctrine.
διδασκαλίᾳ (didaskalia)
Noun - Dative Feminine Singular
Strong's 1319: Instruction, teaching. From didaskalos; instruction.


Uncorrupt Instruction, Teaching.

If a person teaches that a person must believe that Jesus is coming back today. I have no qualms. (They are following sound teaching as they see it.)
If a persons says teaching that Jesus has already came back, and today we live in the new heavens and new earth. People have qualms. (They aren't following sound teaching according to some people.)

They will have issues with the teachings going on.

So what is sound doctrine in the first place? It is to be an uncorrupt teaching, instruction.

All through the Apostolic Record, Jesus speaks of his return.

Matthew 24:30 “Then will appear the sign of the Son of Man in heaven. And then all the peoples of the earth will mourn when they see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven, with power and great glory.

Luke 21: 25 “And there will be signs in the sun, in the moon, and in the stars; and on the earth distress of nations, with perplexity, the sea and the waves roaring; 26 men’s hearts failing them from fear and the expectation of those things which are coming on the earth, for the powers of the heavens will be shaken. 27 Then they will see the Son of Man coming in a cloud with power and great glory. 28 Now when these things begin to happen, look up and lift up your heads, because your redemption draws near.”

Marks 13:26 “At that time people will see the Son of Man coming in clouds with great power and glory.


Here we see where Jesus states concerning his return within that generation.

Matthew 24:34 I tell you the truth, this generation will not pass from the scene until all these things take place.
The verse, "Truly I say to you, this generation will not pass away until all these things take place," is found in Mark 13:30.
Luke 21:32 I tell you the truth, this generation will not pass from the scene until all these things have taken place.

3 Lines of scripture which conclude that generation of living people would be living and experience when the things Jesus spoke about would happen.

You getting the picture of what sound doctrine/teaching is yet?

Is all this suppose to take place in the future? Or in the generation of that time?

Revelation 22:10 Then he told me, “Do not seal up the words of the prophecy of this scroll, because the time is near
Revelation 22: 20 He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming quickly.”

This ending message was to remind them to go back to the first things they had read within the Letter that was passed around the 7 churchs of the people that had lived in that day when Jesus had spoken the words concerning them.

Revelation 1:1 The revelation from Jesus Christ, which God gave him to show his servants what must soon take place. He made it known by sending his angel to his servant John, 2 who testifies to everything he saw—that is, the word of God and the testimony of Jesus Christ. 3 Blessed is the one who reads aloud the words of this prophecy, and blessed are those who hear it and take to heart what is written in it, because the time is near.
Revelation 16:5 “Look, I come like a thief! Blessed is the one who stays awake and remains clothed, so as not to go naked and be shamefully exposed.”
Revelation 19:5
Let us rejoice and be glad
and give him glory!
For the wedding of the Lamb has come,
and his bride has made herself ready.




So with just a little bit of gathering and look and searching out the bible, we can see that Yeshua, was coming, in a time that was going to come quickly especially as the Great and Dreadful day of the LORD had continue to approach that generation.





While many say NO YOUR CRAZY, you aren't following sound doctrine, I wouldn't be so quick to call me crazy, or someone who needs to be corrected, or someone who needs to be avoided, or someone whom is a devil as some may suggest, or a false teacher either.




I'm just sharing the text for you to consider this sound doctrine of the looking at the concernment of Jesus and when was he suppose to come? In that generation.
 
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Check Strong's Concordance for the root word translated "generations" in "these are the generations of..." and you will find it would have been better translated as "this is the patrilineal heritage of or these are the direct descendants of..."

Christ's resurrection opened access to the Father to every tribe and tongue. Is the significance of a "heavenly heritage" still relevant? Consider Revelation 2:9. Today it is an identity, but it's roots lie in a regional designation.

The passage in question suggests to me that the Father will not permit the erasure of His heritage from the world before the end and the new beginning.

But no, He most certainly has not yet returned. There will be no debate when He does.
 
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I'm just sharing the text for you to consider this sound doctrine of the looking at the concernment of Jesus and when was he suppose to come? In that generation.
You never ever know the time,
No one really Knows, maybe already, maybe now, maybe will........

Even if someone else told you the true time.You will never ever know the time,
 
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ὑγιαινούσῃ (hygiainousē)
Verb - Present Participle Active - Dative Feminine Singular
Strong's 5198: From hugies; to have sound health, i.e. Be well; figuratively, to be uncorrupt.


doctrine.
διδασκαλίᾳ (didaskalia)
Noun - Dative Feminine Singular
Strong's 1319: Instruction, teaching. From didaskalos; instruction.


Uncorrupt Instruction, Teaching.

If a person teaches that a person must believe that Jesus is coming back today. I have no qualms. (They are following sound teaching as they see it.)
If a persons says teaching that Jesus has already came back, and today we live in the new heavens and new earth. People have qualms. (They aren't following sound teaching according to some people.)

They will have issues with the teachings going on.

So what is sound doctrine in the first place? It is to be an uncorrupt teaching, instruction.

All through the Apostolic Record, Jesus speaks of his return.




Here we see where Jesus states concerning his return within that generation.



3 Lines of scripture which conclude that generation of living people would be living and experience when the things Jesus spoke about would happen.

You getting the picture of what sound doctrine/teaching is yet?

Is all this suppose to take place in the future? Or in the generation of that time?



This ending message was to remind them to go back to the first things they had read within the Letter that was passed around the 7 churchs of the people that had lived in that day when Jesus had spoken the words concerning them.








So with just a little bit of gathering and look and searching out the bible, we can see that Yeshua, was coming, in a time that was going to come quickly especially as the Great and Dreadful day of the LORD had continue to approach that generation.





While many say NO YOUR CRAZY, you aren't following sound doctrine, I wouldn't be so quick to call me crazy, or someone who needs to be corrected, or someone who needs to be avoided, or someone whom is a devil as some may suggest, or a false teacher either.




I'm just sharing the text for you to consider this sound doctrine of the looking at the concernment of Jesus and when was he suppose to come? In that generation.
Yawn
Another confused doctrine claiming Jesus came back already.
 

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Another confused doctrine claiming Jesus came back already.
马太福音 24:44
Therefore be ye also ready: for in such an hour as ye think not the Son of man cometh.
所以,你们也要预备,因为你们想不到的时候,人子就来了。”

路加福音 12:40
Be ye therefore ready also: for the Son of man cometh at an hour when ye think not.
你们也要预备,因为你们想不到的时候,人子就来了。”
 

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You never ever know the time,
No one really Knows, maybe already, maybe now, maybe will........

Even if someone else told you the true time.You will never ever know the time,

I know death is inevitable. Never know when it is coming.

The Death of Israel was seen in 70Ad.
 
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That was only the destruction of the second temple.

And to rescue people from the wrath of God.

Whom heard John the Baptists message.


Of course many people don't have that type of faith, they were rescued then.



They have the faith of where they just hope to see something happen.


no judgment.
 

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no judgment.

None taken. There is no condemnation for those in Christ Jesus.

Do you mean to tell me you think He ceased to save? I'm not sure where you are going with this "He came and went" nonsense. What logical conclusion could you draw from this notion you presume to teach?

We all have only what the Father gives us, and He has not given anyone His triumphal return yet.
 

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Kay.

It's hard to reconcile those first century people actually being told the truth.
History proves Jesus has not returned.
Make a case for the AC, or the trib such as has never been seen, the mark of the AC,
The rapture, the list of plagues that haven't happened in history.
 

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History proves Jesus has not returned.

Yes, you are correct, but still more proof is in the present. The thief in the night comes completely unexpected, as His return will be (indeed, people will be carrying on with life as usual when BOOM - major upheaval to usher in the next age of this earth). The sheer magnitude of this upheaval, as described, is more than enough evidence to flatly trounce the possibility that it was somehow missed.
 

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History proves Jesus has not returned.
Make a case for the AC, or the trib such as has never been seen, the mark of the AC,
The rapture, the list of plagues that haven't happened in history.

Yes, you are correct, but still more proof is in the present. The thief in the night comes completely unexpected, as His return will be (indeed, people will be carrying on with life as usual when BOOM - major upheaval to usher in the next age of this earth). The sheer magnitude of this upheaval, as described, is more than enough evidence to flatly trounce the possibility that it was somehow missed.





Faith is what is needed. That's why I don't need proof.
 

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Faith is what is needed. That's why I don't need proof.

What kind of faith do you have if it is not proven? Faith isn't belief because you insist it is true. It is something certain, logical, and articulable. If you disagree, explain. If you sought understanding, you would wish to do so to ensure your accuracy of belief.
 

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What kind of faith do you have if it is not proven? Faith isn't belief because you insist it is true. It is something certain, logical, and articulable. If you disagree, explain. If you sought understanding, you would wish to do so to ensure your accuracy of belief.

prove to me God exist. All you can do is suggest it to be so.


That's called faith.
 

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prove to me God exist. All you can do is suggest it to be so.


That's called faith.

That's called blindness. The proof surrounds you, you can't escape it. You just don't recognize it for what it is, and thus my explanations and evidence don't mean much to you. That's why I do my best to portray my Master at all times, that the blind might see Him.
 

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That's called blindness. The proof surrounds you, you can't escape it. You just don't recognize it for what it is, and thus my explanations and evidence don't mean much to you. That's why I do my best to portray my Master at all times, that the blind might see Him.

There is only evidences to suggest God exist.

You can not prove it. Tell him to strike me dead, make it happen.

Tell him, to do something make a lamp move...


Ya cant.
 

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There is only evidences to suggest God exist.

You can not prove it. Tell him to strike me dead, make it happen.

Tell him, to do something make a lamp move...


Ya cant.

You are correct, but comically so. You would command the Creator to appease you?
 

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I know I am correct.

I know the sun will rise tomorrow. I am certain. You know what you do, but are you certain? I can tell you are not because you do not possess Certainty Himself. Otherwise you would hear His voice and see how little you truly know.