Greene not backing "Mark of the beast bill'
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Earburner
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I have no problem with what the UN is right now, however after WW3 in the Mid-east. Rev. 9:13-21 things will change drastically. With 1/3 of the population killed off in a year, a month and a day (a specific date), there will be pandemonium in this old global economy of which shall cause it to collapse. All farming, industry, manufacturing and the shipping of merchandise will come to complete halt.
At that time the ever evolving 10H Beast, in it's final form of a Global Economic Empire, will step forward with the Central Bank Digital Currency (CBDC) in the form of an allotment of FREE digital money to all people for one year, aka UBI (Universal Basic Income), which will be electronically deposited into your Banking account.
The temptation will be: the digital money will be accumulating in your banking account.
What will be required of you by the UN for you to ACCESS IT??
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Nameaboveallnames
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David in NJ
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David in NJ
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Earburner
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In order to establish "World Peace and Safety", it could enforce what nations should do to resolve continual conflict between each other. What would it's recommendation be?
More genocide of a specific people or religion? Rev. 9:13-21.
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Yes. Now that "AI" is on the move to intervene and escalate all the affairs of men, there is no telling of what to expect from that artificial world as to what it dictates.
In order to establish "World Peace and Safety", it could enforce what nations should do to resolve continual conflict between each other. What would it's recommendation be?
More genocide of a specific people or religion? Rev. 9:13-21.
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David in NJ
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6 - The Beast will blaspheme Christ and His Throne
6 - The Beast cannot touch Christ and His Throne
6 - The Beast will turn his wrath on those who worship Christ and HIM who sits on the Throne
Earburner
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That stands to reason with alot if what I understand!
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amigo de christo
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that hold to the old way .
And what do they now call the old way .
OH the patriachary system . OH they sure are gonna come after all
who conformed not to the image of they god and its sin accepting broad path accepting lovey do .
The words of God all mighty
From the pages of genesis and onwards
THEY have done all to get that removed from society
and to reprogram a peoples that are dead set against what they call the partriachry
But lets face it , ITS THE TRUTH IN THE SCRIPTURES they have the real hate for my friend.
They have cried healing the wound
and have sought and cried for fire from heaven as they awiat signs and miracles .
And beleive me THAT IS NOT A GOOD SIGN at all for them .
Its known as a delusion and its a strong one too . it will merge , it will merge all NOT IN THE LAMBS book of life
RIGHT TO THE LIE , RIGHT to the DAY OF ALL OUT BATTLE . The hour grows late
and hour by hour only later does it get . Times RUNNING out .
Nameaboveallnames
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Hi, David.
I tried to start a blog here yesterday in which I laid out some of the reasons why I believe that the USA is the "another beast" of Revelation chapter 13, but I apparently did something wrong. Therefore, I will have to cut and paste that post here, and it will probably take 4 consecutive posts to share it all. I apologize for the length, but I try to give people as much documentation as I possible can when I speak on a topic. Here goes something (I hope)...
Many of us have been told that the United States of America, the alleged “One Nation Under God,” was founded upon Judeo-Christian beliefs or principles, was a Christian nation from its inception, or something to that effect.
These types of claims are regularly made, but is there any truth to them?
I am here to tell you that, contrary to popular belief, such claims could not be further from the truth, and I will seek to prove my assertion from both the Bible and the words and works of this nation’s very own founding fathers.
Look.
If the USA was truly founded as a Christian nation, as has often been alleged, then nobody would be more aware of the same than the Christian God himself.
This makes sense, does it not?
Of course, it does.
One way that the God of the Bible distinguishes himself from “other gods” is by accurately foretelling the future or through prophecy that is ultimately fulfilled in the precise manner in which he has forecasted.
In the context of denouncing idols or “other gods," the God of the Bible said the following about himself:
“Remember the former things of old: for I am God, and there is none else; I am God, and there is none like me, Declaring the end from the beginning, and from ancient times the things that are not yet done, saying, My counsel shall stand, and I will do all my pleasure:” (Isa. 46:9-10)
Has the God of the Bible truly “declared the end from the beginning, and from ancient times the things that are not yet done," and do any such declarations pertain directly to the United States of America?
You tell me.
First, I am going to present to you a specific prophecy from scripture that I believe, in part, pertains to the United States of America in which many of us presently live.
Second, seeing how certain prophecies within the Bible are cryptic in nature, I am going to allow the Bible to define its own terminology so we can properly assess exactly what was prophesied by God.
Last, we will look to history, some past and some present, to see if there is any validity to both the prophecy itself and the God who uttered it.
With this introduction behind us, here is the prophecy:
Revelation chapter 13
[1] And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy.
[2] And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as the feet of a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion: and the dragon gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority.
[3] And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the beast.
[4] And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? Who is able to make war with him?
[5] And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months.
[6] And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and them that dwell in heaven.
[7] And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations.
[8] And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.
[9] If any man have an ear, let him hear.
[10] He that leads into captivity shall go into captivity: he that kills with the sword must be killed with the sword. Here is the patience and the faith of the saints.
[11] And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spoke as a dragon.
[12] And he exercises all the power of the first beast before him, and causes the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed.
[13] And he does great wonders, so that he makes fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men,
[14] And deceives them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live.
[15] And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.
[16] And he causes all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:
[17] And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.
[18] Here is wisdom. Let him that has understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.
In verse 11, we read of "another beast," and in verse 12, we read of "the first beast before him" or of "the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed." We are given several different descriptors of “the first beast” in verses 1 through 8, verse 12, and also in verses 14 through 18. In case you do not already know this, a "beast" in Bible prophecy is representative of a "king" and his "kingdom.”
For example, we read:
“These great beasts, which are four, are four kings, which shall arise out of the earth.” (Dan. 7:17)
Again, we read:
“Thus he said, The fourth beast shall be the fourth kingdom upon earth, which shall be diverse from all kingdoms, and shall devour the whole earth, and shall tread it down, and break it in pieces.” (Dan. 7:23)
In Revelation chapter 13, God showed John a "first beast" (vs. 12) or a first king and his kingdom with “seven heads” (vs. 1). John then “saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed” (vs. 3), or "the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed" (vs. 12), or “the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live” (vs. 14).
John also saw "another beast" (vs. 11) or another king and his kingdom, which would come after “the first beast before him” (vs. 12) or after “the first beast” (vs. 12). Although this "another beast" is the primary focus of this post, please allow me to inform you of certain things pertaining to "the first beast."
(Continued in my next post)
Nameaboveallnames
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(Continued from my previous post)
In a previous post, I documented how the prophecy pertaining to "the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed" (vs. 12) was perfectly fulfilled in precisely the manner in which God foretold when the Papacy regained its power after the signing of the Lateran Treaty back in 1929. In fact, both the newspapers of that day and Roman Catholics of our day referred/refer to this event as "the deadly wound being healed." If you have not yet seen that post, then you can view it here if you want to:
Greene not backing "Mark of the beast bill'
In relation to “the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed” (vs. 12), we also read of “the number of his name” (vs. 17), or how “his number is six hundred threescore and six” (vs. 18), or 666. I have previously documented how “the number” of the pope’s “name is six hundred threescore and six” or 666, so, again, this “first beast” is representative of the Papacy/the Vatican. If you missed the post where I documented the same, then you can view it here if you want to:
Greene not backing "Mark of the beast bill'
Turning our focus away from “the first beast," let us now see if we can properly assess who this “another beast” or another kingdom is.
Again, we read:
“And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spoke as a dragon.” (Rev. 13:11)
Seeing how we have already determined that a “beast” in Bible prophecy represents a “king” (Dan. 7:17) and his “kingdom” (Dan. 7:23), we know that this “another beast” truly is another king/kingdom.
This is CLUE #1 towards assessing its proper identity.
Also, seeing how “the first beast BEFORE HIM” or “the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed” (vs. 12) is the Papacy, we know that this “another beast” or another kingdom had to appear on the world scene AFTER the Papacy appeared.
This is CLUE #2 towards assessing its proper identity.
The prophecy at hand also declares that this “another beast” or another kingdom has “two horns” (vs. 11), so what do “horns” represent in Bible prophecy?
There is no need for us to guess.
We read:
“And the ten horns out of this kingdom are ten kings that shall arise: and another shall rise after them; and he shall be diverse from the first, and he shall subdue three kings.” (Dan. 7:24)
Again:
“And the ten horns which you saw are ten kings, which have received no kingdom as yet; but receive power as kings one hour with the beast.” (Rev. 17:12)
In the same manner that a “beast” is representative of both a “king” (Dan. 7:17) and his “kingdom” (Dan. 7:23) in Bible prophecy, “horns” are representative of a “king” (Dan. 7:24, Rev. 17:12) and his “kingdom” (Rev. 17:12) in Bible prophecy. In fact, we have another clear-cut example in scripture where a “beast” with “two horns” represented a “kingdom” comprised of “two kings."
In relation to the same, we read:
Daniel chapter 8
[1] In the third year of the reign of king Belshazzar a vision appeared unto me, even unto me Daniel, after that which appeared unto me at the first.
[2] And I saw in a vision; and it came to pass, when I saw, that I was at Shushan in the palace, which is in the province of Elam; and I saw in a vision, and I was by the river of Ulai.
[3] Then I lifted up my eyes, and saw, and, behold, there stood before the river a ram which had two horns: and the two horns were high; but one was higher than the other, and the higher came up last.
[4] I saw the ram pushing westward, and northward, and southward; so that no beasts might stand before him, neither was there any that could deliver out of his hand; but he did according to his will, and became great.
[5] And as I was considering, behold, a he-goat came from the west on the face of the whole earth, and touched not the ground: and the goat had a notable horn between his eyes.
[6] And he came to the ram that had two horns, which I had there seen standing before the river, and ran unto him in the fury of his power.
[7] And I saw him come close unto the ram, and he was moved with choler against him, and smote the ram, and broke his two horns: and there was no power in the ram to stand before him, but he cast him down to the ground, and stamped upon him: and there was none that could deliver the ram out of his hand.
[8] Therefore the he-goat waxed very great: and when he was strong, the great horn was broken; and for it came up four notable ones toward the four winds of heaven.
In verse 3, we see a “beast” or “a ram which had two horns: and the two horns were high; but one was higher than the other, and the higher came up last," or we see a kingdom comprised of two kings.
This is not merely my own interpretation. Instead, when Daniel was given the interpretation of his vision by the angel Gabriel, this is what he was told:
Daniel chapter 8
[19] And he said, Behold, I will make you know what shall be in the last end of the indignation: for at the time appointed the end shall be.
[20] The ram which you saw having two horns are the kings of Media and Persia.
[21] And the rough goat is the king of Greece: and the great horn that is between his eyes is the first king.
[22] Now that being broken, whereas four stood up for it, four kingdoms shall stand up out of the nation, but not in his power.
The “ram” or “beast” that Daniel saw “having two horns” was “the kings of Media and Persia” (vs. 20) or what we would call the Medo-Persian kingdom. As we previously read in relation to these “two horns” or two kings, “the two horns were high; but one was higher than the other, and the higher came up last” (Dan. 8:3). Daniel was in Babylon when he had this vision, and it was fulfilled precisely how God had foretold.
If you know history, then you know that Babylon initially fell to the Medes, the first “horn” of this “ram having two horns” (Dan. 8:20), only to later be ruled by the Persians, the second “horn” or “the higher” king which “came up last” (Dan. 8:3).
You can read about the same here:
Furthermore, exactly as God had foretold, this “ram having two horns" or the Medo-Persian empire was ultimately defeated by “the king of Greece” (Dan. 8:21), Alexander the Great.
Further still, when “the great horn was broken” (Dan. 8:8) or when Alexander the Great died, “for it came up four notable ones” (Dan. 8:8) or Alexander the Great’s kingdom was divided between his four generals, Cassander, Ptolemy, Antigonus, and Seleucus.
If you would like to, then you can read about that here:
www.worldhistory.org
God has been accurately foretelling the future for thousands of years, so, hopefully, you will seriously consider what I am sharing now.
(Continued in my next post)
In a previous post, I documented how the prophecy pertaining to "the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed" (vs. 12) was perfectly fulfilled in precisely the manner in which God foretold when the Papacy regained its power after the signing of the Lateran Treaty back in 1929. In fact, both the newspapers of that day and Roman Catholics of our day referred/refer to this event as "the deadly wound being healed." If you have not yet seen that post, then you can view it here if you want to:
Greene not backing "Mark of the beast bill'
In relation to “the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed” (vs. 12), we also read of “the number of his name” (vs. 17), or how “his number is six hundred threescore and six” (vs. 18), or 666. I have previously documented how “the number” of the pope’s “name is six hundred threescore and six” or 666, so, again, this “first beast” is representative of the Papacy/the Vatican. If you missed the post where I documented the same, then you can view it here if you want to:
Greene not backing "Mark of the beast bill'
Turning our focus away from “the first beast," let us now see if we can properly assess who this “another beast” or another kingdom is.
Again, we read:
“And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spoke as a dragon.” (Rev. 13:11)
Seeing how we have already determined that a “beast” in Bible prophecy represents a “king” (Dan. 7:17) and his “kingdom” (Dan. 7:23), we know that this “another beast” truly is another king/kingdom.
This is CLUE #1 towards assessing its proper identity.
Also, seeing how “the first beast BEFORE HIM” or “the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed” (vs. 12) is the Papacy, we know that this “another beast” or another kingdom had to appear on the world scene AFTER the Papacy appeared.
This is CLUE #2 towards assessing its proper identity.
The prophecy at hand also declares that this “another beast” or another kingdom has “two horns” (vs. 11), so what do “horns” represent in Bible prophecy?
There is no need for us to guess.
We read:
“And the ten horns out of this kingdom are ten kings that shall arise: and another shall rise after them; and he shall be diverse from the first, and he shall subdue three kings.” (Dan. 7:24)
Again:
“And the ten horns which you saw are ten kings, which have received no kingdom as yet; but receive power as kings one hour with the beast.” (Rev. 17:12)
In the same manner that a “beast” is representative of both a “king” (Dan. 7:17) and his “kingdom” (Dan. 7:23) in Bible prophecy, “horns” are representative of a “king” (Dan. 7:24, Rev. 17:12) and his “kingdom” (Rev. 17:12) in Bible prophecy. In fact, we have another clear-cut example in scripture where a “beast” with “two horns” represented a “kingdom” comprised of “two kings."
In relation to the same, we read:
Daniel chapter 8
[1] In the third year of the reign of king Belshazzar a vision appeared unto me, even unto me Daniel, after that which appeared unto me at the first.
[2] And I saw in a vision; and it came to pass, when I saw, that I was at Shushan in the palace, which is in the province of Elam; and I saw in a vision, and I was by the river of Ulai.
[3] Then I lifted up my eyes, and saw, and, behold, there stood before the river a ram which had two horns: and the two horns were high; but one was higher than the other, and the higher came up last.
[4] I saw the ram pushing westward, and northward, and southward; so that no beasts might stand before him, neither was there any that could deliver out of his hand; but he did according to his will, and became great.
[5] And as I was considering, behold, a he-goat came from the west on the face of the whole earth, and touched not the ground: and the goat had a notable horn between his eyes.
[6] And he came to the ram that had two horns, which I had there seen standing before the river, and ran unto him in the fury of his power.
[7] And I saw him come close unto the ram, and he was moved with choler against him, and smote the ram, and broke his two horns: and there was no power in the ram to stand before him, but he cast him down to the ground, and stamped upon him: and there was none that could deliver the ram out of his hand.
[8] Therefore the he-goat waxed very great: and when he was strong, the great horn was broken; and for it came up four notable ones toward the four winds of heaven.
In verse 3, we see a “beast” or “a ram which had two horns: and the two horns were high; but one was higher than the other, and the higher came up last," or we see a kingdom comprised of two kings.
This is not merely my own interpretation. Instead, when Daniel was given the interpretation of his vision by the angel Gabriel, this is what he was told:
Daniel chapter 8
[19] And he said, Behold, I will make you know what shall be in the last end of the indignation: for at the time appointed the end shall be.
[20] The ram which you saw having two horns are the kings of Media and Persia.
[21] And the rough goat is the king of Greece: and the great horn that is between his eyes is the first king.
[22] Now that being broken, whereas four stood up for it, four kingdoms shall stand up out of the nation, but not in his power.
The “ram” or “beast” that Daniel saw “having two horns” was “the kings of Media and Persia” (vs. 20) or what we would call the Medo-Persian kingdom. As we previously read in relation to these “two horns” or two kings, “the two horns were high; but one was higher than the other, and the higher came up last” (Dan. 8:3). Daniel was in Babylon when he had this vision, and it was fulfilled precisely how God had foretold.
If you know history, then you know that Babylon initially fell to the Medes, the first “horn” of this “ram having two horns” (Dan. 8:20), only to later be ruled by the Persians, the second “horn” or “the higher” king which “came up last” (Dan. 8:3).
You can read about the same here:
Medo-Persian
In the hills of what is known today as Iran a group of shepherds were united by an aggressive leader named Cyrus. They were called Persians. At first they were controlled by the Medes who had helped...
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Furthermore, exactly as God had foretold, this “ram having two horns" or the Medo-Persian empire was ultimately defeated by “the king of Greece” (Dan. 8:21), Alexander the Great.
Further still, when “the great horn was broken” (Dan. 8:8) or when Alexander the Great died, “for it came up four notable ones” (Dan. 8:8) or Alexander the Great’s kingdom was divided between his four generals, Cassander, Ptolemy, Antigonus, and Seleucus.
If you would like to, then you can read about that here:
Alexander the Great
Alexander III of Macedon, better known as Alexander the Great (l. 21 July 356 BCE – 10 or 11 June 323 BCE, r. 336-323 BCE), was the son of King Philip II of Macedon (r. 359-336 BCE) who became king...
www.worldhistory.org
God has been accurately foretelling the future for thousands of years, so, hopefully, you will seriously consider what I am sharing now.
(Continued in my next post)
Nameaboveallnames
Active Member
(Continued from my previous post)
In the light of what we have just covered, we know that this “another beast” having “two horns” (Rev. 13:11) is representative of a “kingdom” that is a composite of “two kingdoms."
This is CLUE #3 towards assessing its proper identity.
In relation to this “another beast," again, we read:
“And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spoke as a dragon.” (Rev. 13:11)
This “another beast” or another kingdom not only “had two horns," but, more specifically, “had two horns like a lamb."
Is this significant information?
Yes, it most certainly is.
For one thing, unlike “the first beast before him” or “the first beast” (Rev. 13:12) who was depicted as a composite of ADULT ANIMALS (“a leopard,” “a bear,” and “a lion” – Rev. 13:2), this “beast” or this kingdom was depicted as “a lamb” or as A YOUNG SHEEP:
www.merriam-webster.com
lamb
noun
1a: a young sheep
especially : one that is less than one year old or without permanent teeth
In other words, this “beast” or kingdom is a new kingdom in its infancy.
This is CLUE #4 towards assessing its proper identity.
Furthermore, the word “lamb” appears twenty-seven times in the book of Revelation, with this being but one of those twenty-seven times, and in each and every instance it is clearly a reference to Jesus Christ.
I will not type out every verse here because this post is already almost a book, but I will give you the scriptural references, and you can easily verify my claim by simply looking up the passages yourselves.
Here they are:
Revelation 5:6, 8, 12, 13, 6:1, 16, 7:9, 10, 14, 17, 12:11, 13:8, 11, 14:1, 4 (2X), 10, 15:3, 17:14 (2X), 19:7, 9, 21:14, 22, 23, 22:1, 3.
Seeing how a “lamb” is always representative of Jesus Christ in the book of Revelation, we can safely conclude that this “another beast” or another kingdom, which appeared on the world scene in its infancy after the Papacy appeared, is not only a composite of two kingdoms or made up of “two horns," but it also is a composite of two kingdoms that profess to be CHRISTIAN KINGDOMS.
This is CLUE #5 towards assessing its proper identity.
Wait a minute.
Why did I say that this “beast” or kingdom that is comprised of “two horns” or two kings only PROFESSES to be Christian in nature?
The answer to that question is right before us.
Once more, we read:
“And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spoke as a dragon.” (Rev. 13:11)
Although this “another beast” or another kingdom “had two horns like a lamb” or appeared to be a composite of two professing Christian kings or kingdoms, in reality, “he spoke as a dragon” or was SATANIC in nature.
The word “dragon” appears twelve times in the book of Revelation in the following portions of scripture:
Revelation 12:3-4, 7, 9, 13, 16-17, 13:2, 4, 11, 16:13, and 20:2.
In all 12 instances, the word “dragon” is a direct reference to none other than Satan himself, and you can easily verify the same by simply checking the references for yourself.
This is CLUE #6 towards assessing its proper identity.
Although there are other descriptors given to us of this “another beast” in the book of Revelation, I am addressing its inception at the moment, so let us do a quick review of what we know in relation to the same thus far.
1. This “another beast” is another kingdom.
2. This “another beast” or another kingdom appears chronologically AFTER “the first beast BEFORE HIM” (Revelation 13:12) or after the Papacy.
3. This “another beast” or another kingdom has “two horns” or is a composite of two kingdoms.
4. This “another beast” or another kingdom is depicted as “a lamb," which is A YOUNG SHEEP, so it is representative of a kingdom in its infancy.
5. This “another beast” or another kingdom is depicted as having “two horns like a lamb," and everywhere in the book of Revelation a “lamb” is representative of Jesus Christ. Therefore, this another kingdom, in its infancy, is a composite of two kingdoms which profess to be CHRISTIAN in nature.
6. This “another beast” or another kingdom, although it “had two horns like a lamb” or although it professed to be a composite of two CHRISTIAN nations, actually “spoke as a dragon” (Rev. 13:11) or was SATANIC in nature.
Whether you want to accept it or not, this “another beast” or another kingdom is none other than the United States of America in which many of us presently live. It truly is a kingdom which arrived on the scene, in its infancy, after the Papacy, and it truly is a composite of two nations, England and America, which both profess to be Christian in nature, but are actually both Satanic in nature. In fact, we have a whole region in our nation that is known as “NEW ENGLAND."
Furthermore, states such as NEW Hampshire (which is part of New England)…
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…NEW York…
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…and NEW Jersey (where I grew up)…
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…were all named after places in ENGLAND.
Let us shift our focus from God’s word for a moment to the words and works of our founding fathers.
Were our founding fathers Christians?
The correct answer to this question is a resounding “NO!”.
At best, they were Deists, and NOT Christians.
(Continued in my next post)
In the light of what we have just covered, we know that this “another beast” having “two horns” (Rev. 13:11) is representative of a “kingdom” that is a composite of “two kingdoms."
This is CLUE #3 towards assessing its proper identity.
In relation to this “another beast," again, we read:
“And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spoke as a dragon.” (Rev. 13:11)
This “another beast” or another kingdom not only “had two horns," but, more specifically, “had two horns like a lamb."
Is this significant information?
Yes, it most certainly is.
For one thing, unlike “the first beast before him” or “the first beast” (Rev. 13:12) who was depicted as a composite of ADULT ANIMALS (“a leopard,” “a bear,” and “a lion” – Rev. 13:2), this “beast” or this kingdom was depicted as “a lamb” or as A YOUNG SHEEP:
Definition of LAMB
a young sheep; especially : one that is less than one year old or without permanent teeth; the young of various animals (such as the smaller antelopes) other than sheep; a gentle or weak person… See the full definition
www.merriam-webster.com
lamb
noun
1a: a young sheep
especially : one that is less than one year old or without permanent teeth
In other words, this “beast” or kingdom is a new kingdom in its infancy.
This is CLUE #4 towards assessing its proper identity.
Furthermore, the word “lamb” appears twenty-seven times in the book of Revelation, with this being but one of those twenty-seven times, and in each and every instance it is clearly a reference to Jesus Christ.
I will not type out every verse here because this post is already almost a book, but I will give you the scriptural references, and you can easily verify my claim by simply looking up the passages yourselves.
Here they are:
Revelation 5:6, 8, 12, 13, 6:1, 16, 7:9, 10, 14, 17, 12:11, 13:8, 11, 14:1, 4 (2X), 10, 15:3, 17:14 (2X), 19:7, 9, 21:14, 22, 23, 22:1, 3.
Seeing how a “lamb” is always representative of Jesus Christ in the book of Revelation, we can safely conclude that this “another beast” or another kingdom, which appeared on the world scene in its infancy after the Papacy appeared, is not only a composite of two kingdoms or made up of “two horns," but it also is a composite of two kingdoms that profess to be CHRISTIAN KINGDOMS.
This is CLUE #5 towards assessing its proper identity.
Wait a minute.
Why did I say that this “beast” or kingdom that is comprised of “two horns” or two kings only PROFESSES to be Christian in nature?
The answer to that question is right before us.
Once more, we read:
“And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spoke as a dragon.” (Rev. 13:11)
Although this “another beast” or another kingdom “had two horns like a lamb” or appeared to be a composite of two professing Christian kings or kingdoms, in reality, “he spoke as a dragon” or was SATANIC in nature.
The word “dragon” appears twelve times in the book of Revelation in the following portions of scripture:
Revelation 12:3-4, 7, 9, 13, 16-17, 13:2, 4, 11, 16:13, and 20:2.
In all 12 instances, the word “dragon” is a direct reference to none other than Satan himself, and you can easily verify the same by simply checking the references for yourself.
This is CLUE #6 towards assessing its proper identity.
Although there are other descriptors given to us of this “another beast” in the book of Revelation, I am addressing its inception at the moment, so let us do a quick review of what we know in relation to the same thus far.
1. This “another beast” is another kingdom.
2. This “another beast” or another kingdom appears chronologically AFTER “the first beast BEFORE HIM” (Revelation 13:12) or after the Papacy.
3. This “another beast” or another kingdom has “two horns” or is a composite of two kingdoms.
4. This “another beast” or another kingdom is depicted as “a lamb," which is A YOUNG SHEEP, so it is representative of a kingdom in its infancy.
5. This “another beast” or another kingdom is depicted as having “two horns like a lamb," and everywhere in the book of Revelation a “lamb” is representative of Jesus Christ. Therefore, this another kingdom, in its infancy, is a composite of two kingdoms which profess to be CHRISTIAN in nature.
6. This “another beast” or another kingdom, although it “had two horns like a lamb” or although it professed to be a composite of two CHRISTIAN nations, actually “spoke as a dragon” (Rev. 13:11) or was SATANIC in nature.
Whether you want to accept it or not, this “another beast” or another kingdom is none other than the United States of America in which many of us presently live. It truly is a kingdom which arrived on the scene, in its infancy, after the Papacy, and it truly is a composite of two nations, England and America, which both profess to be Christian in nature, but are actually both Satanic in nature. In fact, we have a whole region in our nation that is known as “NEW ENGLAND."
Furthermore, states such as NEW Hampshire (which is part of New England)…
Origin of "New Hampshire"
New Hampshire was named by Captain John Mason after Hampshire, England. One of the original 13 colonies, New Hampshire became the 9th state on June 21, 1788.
…NEW York…
Origin of "New York"
New York was named after the English Duke of York and Albany (and the brother of England's King Charles II) in 1664 when the region called New Amsterdam was taken from the Dutch. The state was a colony of Great Britain until it became independent on July 4, 1776. All State Name Origins The New...
…and NEW Jersey (where I grew up)…
Origin of "New Jersey"
New Jersey was named for the English Channel Island of Jersey in honor of Sir George Carteret (one of the two men to whom the land was originally given). All State Name Origins
…were all named after places in ENGLAND.
Let us shift our focus from God’s word for a moment to the words and works of our founding fathers.
Were our founding fathers Christians?
The correct answer to this question is a resounding “NO!”.
At best, they were Deists, and NOT Christians.
(Continued in my next post)
Nameaboveallnames
Active Member
(Continued from my previous post)
If you do not know what deism is, then this brief definition should help:
www.britannica.com
Deism
religious philosophy
Deism, an unorthodox religious attitude that found expression among a group of English writers beginning with Edward Herbert (later 1st Baron Herbert of Cherbury) in the first half of the 17th century and ending with Henry St. John, 1st Viscount Bolingbroke, in the middle of the 18th century. These writers subsequently inspired a similar religious attitude in Europe during the second half of the 18th century and in the colonial United States of America in the late 18th and early 19th centuries.
In general, Deism refers to what can be called natural religion, the acceptance of a certain body of religious knowledge that is inborn in every person or that can be acquired by the use of reason and the rejection of religious knowledge when it is acquired through either revelation or the teaching of any church.
Do not miss the part about "and in the colonial United States of America in the late 18th" century because that is precisely the timeframe in which this nation was founded.
Also, do not miss the part about how deism is “the rejection of religious knowledge when it is acquired through either revelation or the teaching of any church” because this perfectly describes the beliefs of several of our founding fathers.
For example, Thomas Jefferson, one of the signers of “The Declaration of Independence," wrote his own Bible…a Bible that denies the deity of Christ, and a Bible that removes all supernatural occurrences:
www.history.com
If you would like to know what our founding fathers truly believed in relation to Christ/Christianity, then I would highly recommend the following documentary, “The Hidden Faith of the Founding Fathers," which details their actual beliefs from their own writings and the writings of those who knew them personally:
If you do not want to take the time to watch this 3-hour documentary, then, hopefully, you can at least take a moment to look at “The Great Seal” that our founding fathers designed, which currently is printed on the back of a “One Dollar” bill.
Looking at the same, we see an unfinished pyramid, with its capstone not yet in place, with the Roman numerals “MDCCLXXVI," which translate into “1776," the time of this nation’s inception, at its base.
Inside of the capstone we see an eye, which, according to the official narrative (read: BIG FAT LIE), is allegedly representative of “the eye of Providence."
Encircling the pyramid and its capstone, which is not yet set in place, we see the Latin words “ANNUIT COEPTIS NOVUS ORDO SECLORUM," which translate into English as “He has approved of our undertakings: A New Order for the Ages” or, what many call it today, “A New World Order."
Our forefathers told us, albeit in a cryptic manner, precisely what their true desires were from this nation’s inception way back in 1776:
A NEW ORDER FOR THE AGES or A NEW WORLD ORDER.
This is reality, whether any of us like it or not.
In fact, if you watch the following video entitled “New World Order Quote Compilation," then you will both see and hear many of our nation’s leaders, some past and some present, both Republicans and Democrats alike, plainly tell you that a “New World Order” is precisely what they are after…just as our forefathers were.
Better (worse?) still, if you simply skip to the 7:27 mark of the video, then you will see and hear Nancy Pelosi say the following, and I quote:
“As I have told you before, because I love it so much, they also created ‘The Great Seal of the United States’. And that ‘Great Seal of the United States’ has on it ‘Novus Ordo Seclorum’…a ‘New Order for the Centuries…for the Ages…Forever’.”
This is what Nancy Pelosi LOVES SO MUCH, and she is not alone.
Although our founding fathers and present-day politicians would have us to believe that God is the one who “approves of such undertakings," the Bible tells a completely different story.
For starters, in scripture, Jesus Christ, the epitome of humility, is symbolized as “the chief cornerstone” (Psa. 118:22, Isa. 28:16, Mat. 21:42, Mark 12:10, Luke 20:17, Acts 4:11, Eph. 2:20, 1 Pet. 2:6-7) or as the one upon whom all things are built, and NOT as the capstone.
Furthermore, God’s desire has NEVER been “A New World Order," but rather a “new heaven," a “new earth," and a “new Jerusalem” (Rev. 21:1-3) which will all appear at the end of Christ's coming Millennial Reign.
Well, if Jesus Christ is not the governor of this “New Order for the Ages” or “New World Order," then who is?
The Antichrist, who will undoubtedly be a “pope." That is who.
Let us cut to the chase, shall we?
Although none of us can change anything in regard to this nation’s actual inception, and although none of us can ultimately change anything in relation to this nation’s forecasted future, we can at least be aware of what God has forewarned is coming and prepare both ourselves and others for it.
With this goal in mind, let us quickly look at one of the things that God has forewarned us of in relation to this nation in which we presently reside.
Turning back to the part of our opening prophecy which pertains to this nation, we read:
Revelation chapter 13
[11] And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spoke as a dragon.
[12] And he exercises all the power of the first beast before him, and causes the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed.
[13] And he does great wonders, so that he makes fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men,
[14] And deceives them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live.
[15] And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.
[16] And he causes all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:
[17] And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.
[18] Here is wisdom. Let him that has understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.
This “another beast” (vs. 11) or the United States of America, working closely in conjunction with “the first beast before him” (vs. 12) or with the Papacy/the Vatican, will ultimately “cause ALL, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads: and that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name” (vss. 16-17).
The time is coming, and is almost upon us already, when “the first beast” (vs. 12) or the Papacy/the Vatican will gain full control over this WORLD’S finances. Again, there is coming a “mark of the beast," and “the beast” is none other than the Vatican/the Papacy. Their “mark," which will more than likely be an RFID microchip implant, will ultimately be forced upon the whole world by this “another beast” (vs. 11) or by the United States of America. I have some thoughts on how that might eventually come to pass, but I will withhold from sharing them now.
Thank you for reading this far.
If you do not know what deism is, then this brief definition should help:
Deism | Definition, History, Beliefs, Significance, & Facts | Britannica
Deism, an unorthodox religious attitude that found expression among a group of English writers in the 17th and 18th centuries. It accepted religious knowledge that is inborn in every person and can be acquired by reason and rejected such knowledge that is acquired through revelation or the...
www.britannica.com
Deism
religious philosophy
Deism, an unorthodox religious attitude that found expression among a group of English writers beginning with Edward Herbert (later 1st Baron Herbert of Cherbury) in the first half of the 17th century and ending with Henry St. John, 1st Viscount Bolingbroke, in the middle of the 18th century. These writers subsequently inspired a similar religious attitude in Europe during the second half of the 18th century and in the colonial United States of America in the late 18th and early 19th centuries.
In general, Deism refers to what can be called natural religion, the acceptance of a certain body of religious knowledge that is inborn in every person or that can be acquired by the use of reason and the rejection of religious knowledge when it is acquired through either revelation or the teaching of any church.
Do not miss the part about "and in the colonial United States of America in the late 18th" century because that is precisely the timeframe in which this nation was founded.
Also, do not miss the part about how deism is “the rejection of religious knowledge when it is acquired through either revelation or the teaching of any church” because this perfectly describes the beliefs of several of our founding fathers.
For example, Thomas Jefferson, one of the signers of “The Declaration of Independence," wrote his own Bible…a Bible that denies the deity of Christ, and a Bible that removes all supernatural occurrences:
Why Thomas Jefferson Rewrote the Bible Without Jesus' Miracles and Resurrection | HISTORY
The third president had a secret: his carefully edited version of the New Testament.
If you would like to know what our founding fathers truly believed in relation to Christ/Christianity, then I would highly recommend the following documentary, “The Hidden Faith of the Founding Fathers," which details their actual beliefs from their own writings and the writings of those who knew them personally:
If you do not want to take the time to watch this 3-hour documentary, then, hopefully, you can at least take a moment to look at “The Great Seal” that our founding fathers designed, which currently is printed on the back of a “One Dollar” bill.
Looking at the same, we see an unfinished pyramid, with its capstone not yet in place, with the Roman numerals “MDCCLXXVI," which translate into “1776," the time of this nation’s inception, at its base.
Inside of the capstone we see an eye, which, according to the official narrative (read: BIG FAT LIE), is allegedly representative of “the eye of Providence."
Eye of Providence on US Great Seal and Dollar Bill
Eye of Providence above the unfinished pyramid on the Great Seal of the United States.
www.greatseal.com
Encircling the pyramid and its capstone, which is not yet set in place, we see the Latin words “ANNUIT COEPTIS NOVUS ORDO SECLORUM," which translate into English as “He has approved of our undertakings: A New Order for the Ages” or, what many call it today, “A New World Order."
Our forefathers told us, albeit in a cryptic manner, precisely what their true desires were from this nation’s inception way back in 1776:
A NEW ORDER FOR THE AGES or A NEW WORLD ORDER.
This is reality, whether any of us like it or not.
In fact, if you watch the following video entitled “New World Order Quote Compilation," then you will both see and hear many of our nation’s leaders, some past and some present, both Republicans and Democrats alike, plainly tell you that a “New World Order” is precisely what they are after…just as our forefathers were.
Better (worse?) still, if you simply skip to the 7:27 mark of the video, then you will see and hear Nancy Pelosi say the following, and I quote:
“As I have told you before, because I love it so much, they also created ‘The Great Seal of the United States’. And that ‘Great Seal of the United States’ has on it ‘Novus Ordo Seclorum’…a ‘New Order for the Centuries…for the Ages…Forever’.”
This is what Nancy Pelosi LOVES SO MUCH, and she is not alone.
Although our founding fathers and present-day politicians would have us to believe that God is the one who “approves of such undertakings," the Bible tells a completely different story.
For starters, in scripture, Jesus Christ, the epitome of humility, is symbolized as “the chief cornerstone” (Psa. 118:22, Isa. 28:16, Mat. 21:42, Mark 12:10, Luke 20:17, Acts 4:11, Eph. 2:20, 1 Pet. 2:6-7) or as the one upon whom all things are built, and NOT as the capstone.
Furthermore, God’s desire has NEVER been “A New World Order," but rather a “new heaven," a “new earth," and a “new Jerusalem” (Rev. 21:1-3) which will all appear at the end of Christ's coming Millennial Reign.
Well, if Jesus Christ is not the governor of this “New Order for the Ages” or “New World Order," then who is?
The Antichrist, who will undoubtedly be a “pope." That is who.
Let us cut to the chase, shall we?
Although none of us can change anything in regard to this nation’s actual inception, and although none of us can ultimately change anything in relation to this nation’s forecasted future, we can at least be aware of what God has forewarned is coming and prepare both ourselves and others for it.
With this goal in mind, let us quickly look at one of the things that God has forewarned us of in relation to this nation in which we presently reside.
Turning back to the part of our opening prophecy which pertains to this nation, we read:
Revelation chapter 13
[11] And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spoke as a dragon.
[12] And he exercises all the power of the first beast before him, and causes the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed.
[13] And he does great wonders, so that he makes fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men,
[14] And deceives them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live.
[15] And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.
[16] And he causes all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:
[17] And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.
[18] Here is wisdom. Let him that has understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.
This “another beast” (vs. 11) or the United States of America, working closely in conjunction with “the first beast before him” (vs. 12) or with the Papacy/the Vatican, will ultimately “cause ALL, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads: and that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name” (vss. 16-17).
The time is coming, and is almost upon us already, when “the first beast” (vs. 12) or the Papacy/the Vatican will gain full control over this WORLD’S finances. Again, there is coming a “mark of the beast," and “the beast” is none other than the Vatican/the Papacy. Their “mark," which will more than likely be an RFID microchip implant, will ultimately be forced upon the whole world by this “another beast” (vs. 11) or by the United States of America. I have some thoughts on how that might eventually come to pass, but I will withhold from sharing them now.
Thank you for reading this far.
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Nameaboveallnames
Active Member
I will quickly add this...
Have you ever wondered about the Gadsden Flag?
As a Christian, I most certainly have.
Here is a little background information on it:
en.wikipedia.org
The Gadsden flag is a historical American flag with a yellow field depicting a timber rattlesnake[1][2] coiled and ready to strike. Beneath the rattlesnake are the words Dont Tread on Me [sic].[a] Some modern versions of the flag include an apostrophe in the word "don't".
The flag is named after Christopher Gadsden, a South Carolinian delegate to the Continental Congress and brigadier general in the Continental Army,[4][5] who designed the flag in 1775 during the American Revolution.[6] He gave the flag to Commodore Esek Hopkins, and it was unfurled on the main mast of Hopkins' flagship USS Alfred on December 20, 1775.[5][7] Two days later, Congress made Hopkins commander-in-chief of the Continental Navy.[8] He adopted the Gadsden banner as his personal flag, flying it from the mainmast of the flagship while he was aboard.[5] The Continental Marines also flew the flag during the early part of the war.[6]
The rattlesnake was a symbol of the unity of the Thirteen Colonies at the start of the Revolutionary War, and it had a long history as a political symbol in America. Benjamin Franklin used it for his Join, or Die woodcut in 1754.[5][9] Gadsden intended his flag to serve as a physical symbol of the American Revolution's ideals.[5]
The flag has been described as the "most popular symbol of the American Revolution".[5] Its design proclaims an assertive warning of vigilance and willingness to act in defense against coercion.[10] This has led it to be associated with the ideas of individualism and liberty.[11][12][13][14][15][16] It is often used in the United States as a symbol of right-libertarianism, classical liberalism, and small government, as well as for distrust or defiance against authorities and government.[17][18][19]
Personally, I find it very interesting that this flag was associated with the American Revolution, and especially when I consider the following words of Jesus:
Luke chapter 10
[17] And the seventy returned again with joy, saying, Lord, even the devils are subject unto us through thy name.
[18] And he said unto them, I beheld Satan as lightning fall from heaven.
[19] Behold, I give unto you power to tread on serpents and scorpions, and over all the power of the enemy: and nothing shall by any means hurt you.
[20] Notwithstanding in this rejoice not, that the spirits are subject unto you; but rather rejoice, because your names are written in heaven.
Jesus gave his disciples power to tread on serpents, and the flag associated with the founding of this allegedly "Christian nation" depicts a serpent saying "Don't tread on me."
Methinks that I smell a rat...umm...err..a serpent, and methinks that I know exactly who that serpent is.
Have you ever wondered about the Gadsden Flag?
As a Christian, I most certainly have.
Here is a little background information on it:
Gadsden flag - Wikipedia
The Gadsden flag is a historical American flag with a yellow field depicting a timber rattlesnake[1][2] coiled and ready to strike. Beneath the rattlesnake are the words Dont Tread on Me [sic].[a] Some modern versions of the flag include an apostrophe in the word "don't".
The flag is named after Christopher Gadsden, a South Carolinian delegate to the Continental Congress and brigadier general in the Continental Army,[4][5] who designed the flag in 1775 during the American Revolution.[6] He gave the flag to Commodore Esek Hopkins, and it was unfurled on the main mast of Hopkins' flagship USS Alfred on December 20, 1775.[5][7] Two days later, Congress made Hopkins commander-in-chief of the Continental Navy.[8] He adopted the Gadsden banner as his personal flag, flying it from the mainmast of the flagship while he was aboard.[5] The Continental Marines also flew the flag during the early part of the war.[6]
The rattlesnake was a symbol of the unity of the Thirteen Colonies at the start of the Revolutionary War, and it had a long history as a political symbol in America. Benjamin Franklin used it for his Join, or Die woodcut in 1754.[5][9] Gadsden intended his flag to serve as a physical symbol of the American Revolution's ideals.[5]
The flag has been described as the "most popular symbol of the American Revolution".[5] Its design proclaims an assertive warning of vigilance and willingness to act in defense against coercion.[10] This has led it to be associated with the ideas of individualism and liberty.[11][12][13][14][15][16] It is often used in the United States as a symbol of right-libertarianism, classical liberalism, and small government, as well as for distrust or defiance against authorities and government.[17][18][19]
Personally, I find it very interesting that this flag was associated with the American Revolution, and especially when I consider the following words of Jesus:
Luke chapter 10
[17] And the seventy returned again with joy, saying, Lord, even the devils are subject unto us through thy name.
[18] And he said unto them, I beheld Satan as lightning fall from heaven.
[19] Behold, I give unto you power to tread on serpents and scorpions, and over all the power of the enemy: and nothing shall by any means hurt you.
[20] Notwithstanding in this rejoice not, that the spirits are subject unto you; but rather rejoice, because your names are written in heaven.
Jesus gave his disciples power to tread on serpents, and the flag associated with the founding of this allegedly "Christian nation" depicts a serpent saying "Don't tread on me."
Methinks that I smell a rat...umm...err..a serpent, and methinks that I know exactly who that serpent is.
Earburner
Well-Known Member
I must say that to 98% of what you have shown thus far, I myself have come to a likeness to the same understanding.
The only three differences we have is:
1. The First Beast having 10 horns is not the Papacy but rather it is the EU of Europe, out of which 10 horns (countries) of NATO shall be appointed to rule with the First Beast for one hour. Rev. 17:12.
2. The "Another Beast", having two horns is without a doubt, the USA
3. The Image of the First Beast having 10 horns is not the USA but rather it is the United Nations, which is what the USA has led/coerced the people of the world to make. Rev. 13:14
And that they have!
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Nameaboveallnames
Active Member
Hi, Earburner.
Although I agree with you that "ten horns" or ten kings and their kingdoms "shall give their power and strength unto the beast" (Rev. 17:13) in the last days, I have to respectfully disagree with you in relation to the true identity of "the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed" (Rev. 13:12).
As I have already documented, the Papacy's "deadly wound was healed" in 1929 with the signing of the Lateran Treaty. In order for you or anybody else to prove that the EU is "the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed" (Rev. 13:12), you would need to provide documentation that the EU has a "head" or "hill" (Rev. 17:9) that suffered a "deadly wound" at some time in the past, only to later have it "healed." No offense to you personally, but neither you nor anybody else on this planet will ever be able to do so.
When it comes to properly identifying either "the first beast" (Rev. 13:12), the "another beast" (Rev. 13:11), or "BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH" (Rev. 17:5), we must examine every descriptor that we are given of the same, and every descriptor must be a perfect match.
Can you prove that the EU has a name that numbers 666?
Can you prove that the EU is the "little horn" or this world's littlest kingdom?
Again, these descriptors, as well as several others, all find their fulfillment in the Papacy and in none other.
As people wrongly identify the entity of the beasts as of human origin, they are demonstrating that they have no earthly understanding of the origins of the actual beasts.
When commentators begin to identify that the actual beasts have the ability to influence people, kingdoms, nations and empires to manifest their evil characteristics which we can identify from the history of human endeavour, we are no longer talking of the "beasts'" being of human origin but must recognise that have a spiritual heavenly host origin. which turns our End Time understandings/musings on it head and have built our knowledge of the end times on a foundation of sand.
But then again who among our members of this forum are able to think for themselves and present a very different picture of what is happening.
Shalom
Nameaboveallnames
Active Member
I am not quite sure what you mean, so I am not sure how to respond.
There is definitely a spiritual element to each "beast" or kingdom, and I touched on that briefly while seeking to identify who the "another beast" of Revelation chapter 13 is.
Again, we read:
"And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon." (Rev. 13:11)
As I mentioned before, this "beast" or kingdom "had two horns like a lamb," and a lamb is always representative of Christ in the book of Revelation. In other words, this "beast" or kingdom would profess to be Christian in origin or nature, but, in reality, "he spake as a dragon." As I also mentioned previously, a dragon is always representative of Satan in the book of Revelation, so this "beast" or kingdom is being led by Satan, and not by Christ.
When it comes to "the first beast" (Rev. 13:12), we read the following:
Rev 13:2
And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as the feet of a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion: and the dragon gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority.
Again, we read:
Rev 13:4
And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him?
"The dragon" or Satan is the one who is giving power unto this "beast" or kingdom while providing it with its seat and great authority.
And?
How does this reality alter anything that I have previously shared in relation to either "beast" or kingdom?
Nameaboveallnames
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