Sound Doctrine (Second Coming of Christ in that generation.)

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I don’t like the way you talk to me. I got other things to do. Bye.
 

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Thank you for letting me have the last word like my mother appreciate that
 

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Thank you for letting me have the last word like my mother appreciate that

It's just that my Master is quite literally The Best. I utterly adore Him and love to sing His praises at every opportunity. Sometimes that just means going around and delivering His messages, but I love to do it.
 

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I know death is inevitable. Never know when it is coming.

The Death of Israel was seen in 70Ad.
No Israel became Christ People in fact ! That's why they became Christians, because they were Gods People infact, Saved ! They seen the Light !

The Jews who rejected Jesus as Christ were clearly not worthy, for they were being lead astray by the very ones who wanted Jesus killed in fact ! Such came at Jesus with every cunning dirty low life trick, just as they did all of Gods Prophets befor him in the Vinyard story proves it all in fact !

All people who are truly born again are Israel ! for they serve Christ Jesus ! and no one can come to the Father unless it's through his only begotten Son !

Once one is Truly Saved you are abiding in Christ Jesus as his Body and he is the Head their of !
So the second coming is in you ! when you are Saved !
But as for this World being changed, second coming that's Kingdom of God ! that all will be Saved in fact !

Now how can one who is truly Saved be saved again ? if you are Saved now !

The days will come that the Hellfire comes, due to Mans works ! they bring it all on ! Carnal Man has always Killed and robbed and disrespected others ! That's the issue, due to the power of Sin that is over them !

The Holy Spirit will give one the Power to have a handle on Sin. because one is not lost to this world that Jesus clearly pointed out was Full of Deceptions and Delusions !
The Kingdom of God over comes such, as it is done in Heaven !

So untill that day we will enter the Hell fire before hand ! that is what is coming and a lot of Religious are truly only Carnal religious Dupes in fact ! for clearly they do not serve Christ Jesus in fact !

I have seen religious morons claim to be Christians but think they can do Evil ! so as to bring on the Hellfire ! But lucky for them that they think they will be Raptured up before hand !
So they will not have to feel the Pain themselves ! of their own works that they have done !

What a great get out of Jail card ? they think they have !
Why do they see it that way ? because they say that they can do Deals with God ? that's what they informed me !

I said no one can do Deals with God at all in fact ! His ways are Solid as a Rock for this is where flows Spiritual Waters come from ! out of that Rock !

When did we see Jesus doing a Deal with the Devil himself ? the Devil was trying to do a Deal with Jesus ( Salvation ) ! how can one do a Deal with Salvation it's self ! Jesus just turned to the Devil and pointed out the facts ! Begone ! and the poor Devil ( the Tempter ) had no power over Jesus.

Salvation -VS- Temptation ? who wins ?
Salvation does, because such can not be Tempted ! so the tools of the Temptation have noting to lock on to in fact !
So one who does a Deal, is locked in.

Their is no Deal for your Salvation ! it's a free gift ! you need only pick it up and abide in Christ Jesus !
 
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But lucky for them that they think they will be Raptured up before hand !

Regardless of whether they can admit it, everyone desires the Truth, and the Lord dispenses Himself as He wills. Brother, we have the rapture now! Jesus is not coming for victory, He returns because it is finished already!
 

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Whats the point of Jesus coming back for some of you people?

I just expect to die one day. My hope is not in him coming back but many people it is.

I hope to die be resurrected and hopefully go into the heavenly realm and go in the kingdom.



I guess people need to express their hope one way or another and one tradition is Jesus is coming back soon.

But that Revelation was to a specific group of people...

but many people just dont believe it

heck they hardly read their own bibles....



ITs okay to believe wahtever you want at the end of the day but for me personally I would want to get as close to truth as a i possibly can.
 

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My hope is not in him

And this is it, the reason you ache. But I understand because there are so many lies told of Him. But here I am to tell you that He has filled me to overflowing with every joy, every hope, every treasure and good thing. He has bathed me in His love and fulfilled every promise so that I may be certain in all of His promises that I have yet to see.

And so I am certain in and of Him, and that is how you may find Him.

Attack all doubt in your mind, excoriate the accumulated filth of the world that has built upon you. Prepare to meet Him by digging for the deepest truth and meaning you can find while despising a lie with everything you've got.

He is worthy. He is worth it all. He is so glorious that I am just excited and overjoyed every minute living in Him now and knowing I will have Him to enjoy to deepest love forever, always, and for eternity. He promised life and He promised it more fully. I am alive today and more than ever, forever! I don't know when or if I will taste this first death, but I have no fear of the second.
 

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I hate people who try to like make you feel some type of way…

Get out ya feelings.


I had to tell a lady at work yesterday “I don’t have to talk to anyone if I don’t want to, that’s what my supervisor told me.”

She finally stop her petty attitude.

And we still have. Perfect work relationship.

Strictly professional to heck with all that other nonsense….

We ain’t fixing to be work pals if you ain’t palling with every single individual in here…

This is teamwork,

Not team gossip about peoples lives and type shi.
 

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That’s what people will do on these website it’s no different than that lady being bored at work and wants to get into someone life or whatever.

Especially me being a new person….

lol, get real lady.
 

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With such a command of yourself, the awareness of your freedom with whom to converse, I very much appreciate that you continue to interact with me. I do wish to make you feel such a way, the way I do! I am the living embodiment of the fullness of Christ's joy within me according to each and every one of His promises in the Bible!

I am here to share Him with you! He loves you so much more than you know right now, but I believe you will know at the perfect time.
 

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There is only evidences to suggest God exist.

You can not prove it. Tell him to strike me dead, make it happen.

Tell him, to do something make a lamp move...


Ya cant.
You can't command God to do something and expect God to do it, but you can ask Him to do something and He might do it. When an evangelist asks God, in Jesus' name, to heal somebody, and that person is immediately miraculously healed, would you accept that as proof that God exists? It happened to me, I was healed of a back problem when an evangelist prayed for healing for everybody at the meeting that had raised their hand wanting to be healed. It was proof for me that God exists and that He cares about us!
 

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You can't command God to do something and expect God to do it, but you can ask Him to do something and He might do it. When an evangelist asks God, in Jesus' name, to heal somebody, and that person is immediately miraculously healed, would you accept that as proof that God exists? It happened to me, I was healed of a back problem when an evangelist prayed for healing for everybody at the meeting that had raised their hand wanting to be healed. It was proof for me that God exists and that He cares about us!

I don't believe people are truly healed in those types of places, there a bunch of people who are actors, or they are people whom have been decieved.

The only true healing is one of the heart. Regardless of your physical status, or mental status.
 

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I don't believe people are truly healed in those types of places, there a bunch of people who are actors, or they are people whom have been decieved.

The only true healing is one of the heart. Regardless of your physical status, or mental status.
So you're calling me a liar?

I had been suffering with the back problem for about four months, and it just wasn't getting better. At the end of the evangelist's (Reinhard Bonnke) meeting, because the place was packed and some people were even watching on closed circuit TV from an overflow room, he said it was impractical to invite people on stage so that he could lay hands on them for healing, so he said that everyone that would like to receive a healing touch from God should raise their hand, because God didn't need him to lay hands on people in order to heal them. He then said a very simple and short prayer, something like, "Father please heal those people that have raised their hand. In Jesus' name please heal them now". There was a short pause for about a couple of seconds, and then I felt an amazing, very pleasant and enjoyable, tingling type of sensation that seemed to come down from directly above me, starting in my head and spreading down my back. It didn't extend into my limbs, just my head and spine (which makes sense as it was my lower back that was being healed). The sensation lasted maybe 10 - 15 seconds and then gently faded away.

The meeting then ended and we began to leave the theatre. I was certain that my back had been healed, but I was still wearing a sports back support and we were so packed together that I couldn't move about sufficiently to test it. Once outside the building I crossed the road and started going up the very steep steps that led up to the car park. I bounded up two and even three steps at a time to put my back to the test, and as I expected it was perfectly okay.

Later I remembered that I had multiple times asked God to increase my faith, because without a personal experience there is always a small niggling doubt that the Bible might all be made up by men and not actually true, so I only had about 99.9% faith. I then realised that God had now proved to me beyond doubt that He and Jesus were real and alive, and I now have 100% faith - but God had answered my prayers in a way I hadn't anticipated - so be careful what you ask for because God may not answer in the way you think! I'd had a similar back problem a few times before, but it always got better in one or two weeks. This last time it seemed to get better but then got worse again, and after a few cycles of that it settled down to a permanent problem last lasted for four months - up to the evangelist's meeting. It wasn't fun enduring that, but it was very much worth it!

The evening before the evangelist's meeting we had a small Bible study meeting in my home (just me, by younger brother and his fiancee, and the assistant pastor from the church that I later started attending). It was only at that meeting that the pastor informed us of the evangelist's meeting, and suggested that we go along.

For quite a while I had been trying to understand Biblical fasting, and it did not make sense to me. Nobody could gave me an explanation that made sense to me. After the meeting I asked the pastor about fasting, but he too was unable to give me an explanation that made sense to me. However, during the night, while asleep and in the middle of a nonsensical dream, God/Jesus spoke to me three words, giving, I guessed, a page number in my Bible (I only had one Bible back then). It startled me so that I woke up, and I decided to look it up in my Bible the next day. I forgot though, and eventually looked it up four days later. (I kept remembering while I was at work but I didn't have my Bible with me!) When I looked up the page number in my Bible, there was a new chapter starting at the top of the page. It was Isaiah 58, and the heading at the top of the page (NIV) was "True Fasting". So in less than 24 hours God had answered my my question about fasting and then healed my back - the best day of my life so far!

This is all totally true. I would sware that it is true, but Jesus told us not to do that - Matthew 5:33-37 (WEB):

(33) “Again you have heard that it was said to the ancient ones, ‘You shall not make false vows, but shall perform to the Lord your vows,’​
(34) but I tell you, don’t swear at all: neither by heaven, for it is the throne of God;​
(35) nor by the earth, for it is the footstool of his feet; nor by Jerusalem, for it is the city of the great King.​
(36) Neither shall you swear by your head, for you can’t make one hair white or black.​
(37) But let your ‘Yes’ be ‘Yes’ and your ‘No’ be ‘No.’ Whatever is more than these is of the evil one.​
 
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So you're calling me a liar?

I had been suffering with the back problem for about four months, and it just wasn't getting better. At the end of the evangelist's (Reinhard Bonnke) meeting, because the place was packed and some people were even watching on closed circuit TV from an overflow room, he said it was impractical to invite people on stage so that he could lay hands on them for healing, so he said that everyone that would like to receive a healing touch from God should raise their hand, because God didn't need him to lay hands on people in order to heal them. He then said a very simple and short prayer, something like, "Father please heal those people that have raised their hand. In Jesus' name please heal them now". There was a short pause for about a couple of seconds, and then I felt an amazing, very pleasant and enjoyable, tingling type of sensation that seemed to come down from directly above me, starting in my head and spreading down my back. It didn't extend into my limbs, just my head and spine (which makes sense as it was my lower back that was being healed). The sensation lasted maybe 10 - 15 seconds and then gently faded away.

The meeting then ended and we began to leave the theatre. I was certain that my back had been healed, but I was still wearing a sports back support and we were so packed together that I couldn't move about sufficiently to test it. Once outside the building I crossed the road and started going up the very steep steps that led up to the car park. I bounded up two and even three steps at a time to put my back to the test, and as I expected it was perfectly okay.

Later I remembered that I had multiple times asked God to increase my faith, because without a personal experience there is always a small niggling doubt that the Bible might all be made up by men and not actually true, so I only had about 99.9% faith. I then realised that God had now proved to me beyond doubt that He and Jesus were real and alive, and I now have 100% faith - but God had answered my prayers in a way I hadn't anticipated - so be careful what you ask for because God may not answer in the way you think! I'd had a similar back problem a few times before, but it always got better in one or two weeks. This last time it seemed to get better but then got worse again, and after a few cycles of that it settled down to a permanent problem last lasted for four months - up to the evangelist's meeting. It wasn't fun enduring that, but it was very much worth it!

The evening before the evangelist's meeting we had a small Bible study meeting in my home (just me, by younger brother and his fiancee, and the assistant pastor from the church that I later started attending). It was only at that meeting that the pastor informed us of the evangelist's meeting, and suggested that we go along.

For quite a while I had been trying to understand Biblical fasting, and it did not make sense to me. Nobody could gave me an explanation that made sense to me. After the meeting I asked the pastor about fasting, but he too was unable to give me an explanation that made sense to me. However, during the night, while asleep and in the middle of a nonsensical dream, God/Jesus spoke to me three words, giving, I guessed, a page number in my Bible (I only had one Bible back then). It startled me so that I woke up, and I decided to look it up in my Bible the next day. I forgot though, and eventually looked it up four days later. (I kept remembering while I was at work but I didn't have my Bible with me!) When I looked up the page number in my Bible, there was a new chapter starting at the top of the page. It was Isaiah 58, and the heading at the top of the page (NIV) was "True Fasting". So in less than 24 hours God had answered my my question about fasting and then healed my back - the best day of my life so far!

This is all totally true. I would sware that it is true, but Jesus told us not to do that - Matthew 5:33-37 (WEB):

(33) “Again you have heard that it was said to the ancient ones, ‘You shall not make false vows, but shall perform to the Lord your vows,’​
(34) but I tell you, don’t swear at all: neither by heaven, for it is the throne of God;​
(35) nor by the earth, for it is the footstool of his feet; nor by Jerusalem, for it is the city of the great King.​
(36) Neither shall you swear by your head, for you can’t make one hair white or black.​
(37) But let your ‘Yes’ be ‘Yes’ and your ‘No’ be ‘No.’ Whatever is more than these is of the evil one.​



I don't believe anything one says on here.

There are many people who are con artist, and liars out there.

I am a liar myself, surely I have lied before.

People should never trust what people say or state and be weary of things that could possibly be false!


If God is still healing one person, he needs to be healing all people dont you think?


But the truth is we arent meant to stay on this planet forever.

The greatest healing is one of the heart, nothing more, nothing less.
 

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I don't believe anything one says on here.
The why do you bother participating in this forum?

I presume that you believe the Scriptures, so you must believe Acts 8:5-8 (WEB):

(5) Philip went down to the city of Samaria, and proclaimed to them the Christ.​
(6) The multitudes listened with one accord to the things that were spoken by Philip, when they heard and saw the signs which he did.​
(7) For unclean spirits came out of many of those who had them. They came out, crying with a loud voice. Many who had been paralyzed and lame were healed.​
(8) There was great joy in that city.​

So there is proof that God exists.

People should never trust what people say or state and be weary of things that could possibly be false!
I agree; we should alway use the Bible to determine whether what we are told is true or not - Acts 17:11 (WEB):

(11) Now these were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, examining the Scriptures daily to see whether these things were so.​

1 John 4:1-6 (WEB):
(1) Beloved, don’t believe every spirit, but test the spirits, whether they are of God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world.​
(2) By this you know the Spirit of God: every spirit who confesses that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is of God,​
(3) and every spirit who doesn’t confess that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is not of God, and this is the spirit of the Antichrist, of whom you have heard that it comes. Now it is in the world already.​
(4) You are of God, little children, and have overcome them; because greater is he who is in you than he who is in the world.​
(5) They are of the world. Therefore they speak of the world, and the world hears them.​
(6) We are of God. He who knows God listens to us. He who is not of God doesn’t listen to us. By this we know the spirit of truth, and the spirit of error.​

If God is still healing one person, he needs to be healing all people dont you think?
It's not for us to tell God what He should be doing. He will act according to His plans. God does plan to heal everyone eventually, but that time has not arrived yet. Revelation 21:4 (WEB):

(4) He will wipe away every tear from their eyes. Death will be no more; neither will there be mourning, nor crying, nor pain, any more. The first things have passed away.”​

But the truth is we arent meant to stay on this planet forever.
Some are meant to live forever on the earth. Only Christians are promised a new home in heaven. There will be a new heaven and a new earth. The New Jerusalem comes down out of heaven to earth, and God will then dwell among His people on the earth - Revelation 21:1-4 (ISV):

(1) Then I saw a new heaven and a new earth, because the first heaven and the first earth had disappeared, and the sea was gone.​
(2) I also saw the holy city, New Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared like a bride adorned for her husband.​
(3) I heard a loud voice from the throne say, "See, the tent of God is among humans! He will make his home with them, and they will be his people. God himself will be with them, and he will be their God.​
(4) He will wipe every tear from their eyes. There won't be death anymore. There won't be any grief, crying, or pain, because the first things have disappeared."​

The greatest healing is one of the heart, nothing more, nothing less.
Maybe. But God heals our bodies too.
 

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The main premise used in this thread is that the generation being referenced is a descendant generation, whereas in the OT the generation represents a time period of around 1,024 solar years.

So, for sound doctrine as to when the second coming of the Christ to judge the peoples of the earth, will occur during this generation, it means that we must consider any years between the first year and the last year of the generation period.

For me there is a 1,000 solar year period when the beasts, the Little Horn and Satan are imprisoned in the Bottomless Pit and Christ's second coming happens after the Bottomless Pit is unlocked and the beast, the Little Horn/False Prophet and Satan are all captured by Christ and dispatched into the Lake of Fire.

Well, the so-called sound doctrine does not exist in this particular understanding.

Shalom
 

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@keithr cause I choose to do whatever I want.

I don’t trust you or anyone on the internet:
 

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Thank you for your opinion @jah Ross.

I hate that generation spoken to is lied to by Jesus according to many people.

So many make it for today but I believe many people that do are wrong.

Whatever you predict must come true otherwise you are just fooling yourself.