Is it possible to lose salvation?

[nedsk]

lol

You quoted one verse from one passage

I quoted many verses from many passages.

I am not upset my friend. I am calling you what I think of you. a dude who thinks he knows it all. and is unable to listen or comprehend what others are saying

How many times does something need to be said in order for it to be true? Repeating a lie doesnt make it true

 

[GodsGrace]

then what causes good works?

Will i do good works if I do not have faith?

Sure.
Many unsaved persons do more good works than many saved persons.

Can I please god apart from Faith?

No. Have you read Hebrews?

Hebrews 11:6
But without faith it is impossible to please Him, for he who comes to God must believe that He is, and that He is a rewarder of those who diligently seek Him.

Oh. You have.
Nice.

Did Not the author say we must have faith to not only come to God. but to please him (do good works)

I agree 100%.

No one teaches a person who stull struggles with sin issues has never been saved

I NEVER said that nor do I judge anyone's soul.

we are talking about people who continue to live in sin, IE they never had a changed life, they live as before.

I was speaking to a different member so I'm not understanding what you're asking or saying.
If a person lives in sin,,,he cannot please God...but I'm not making this point.

why would you continue to misrepresent people?

WHO did I misrepresent?

 

[Eternally Grateful]

I NEVER set out to convince you that works save us because they don't.

You need to start reading your own words.

You say they do not.

Yet in another sentence you say they are required.

it can not be both ways

You get justification mixed up with sanctification.

No this is you who does this.

I've been trying to define BELIEVE for you....
you DO state the definition...
but then you don't APPLY it to Christian theology.

Yes I do..

Those saved work

those who do not have faith either will nto work. or they will do works of self righteousness (works of merit for salvation)

Actually, it IS a start.

No

I have been saved, a completed action. by grace through faith. not of works. lest I should boast.

Those who are saved are those who endure.

actually those who are saved are kept by christ. I could not endure if I tried.. God must keep me.

Those who ENDURE to the end will be saved.

Physically, yes they will..

but that passage is not talking to you and me

Matthew 24:13 Jesus said:
13But the one who endures to the end will be saved.

this is talking abouot the time of the end

please learn how to properly interpret a passage based on context and stop pulling verses out of context because you think they support your view.

Who should endure till the end?
The unsaved?
No.
The saved.
The unsaved are already lost.

Those LIVING during the GREAT TRIBULATION which is yet to come, and are ALIVE when christ returns.

Revelation 2;10 be faithful until the end and I will give you the crown of LIFE:

Yes. Amen.

Salvation is not a reward.. but here you are trying to do somethign to earn a reward. ie a work of merit..

did you just claim your not teaching about merited salvation?

John 6:40 Everyone WHO BELIEVES (present tense) I will raise up on the last day.

How about the rest of John 6:

but yes lets look at this, whoever has believed, will (not might) be raised.

He also said they will never hunger, never thirst. Never die. Have eternal (not conditional life) and will never be lost.

Because, maybe, they've learned that they don't have to?

Or maybe they never had faith to begin with (as with James 2. hears of the words not doers. why did they not do? they had dead (non existent) faith

That God accepts everything they do after salvation?

God excepts his son's sacrifice. that why righteousness must be imputed to us, like it was Abraham. because of our own righteousness, we fall so far short of Gods standard. we can not even be in the ballpark. let alone see him face to face in our present state

THIS is the teaching of OSAS..
if you don't agree with it, you should stop supporting it.

No it is not the teaching

Like you do with the word of God. you misinterpret what we believe.

Your teaching what you have been taught the word says, and what you have been taught OSAS believers believe. And you can not get past that. thats why you never hear myself or anyone else trying to show you and continually misrepresent us as saying things we have NEVER SAID

But JESUS said we could be saved and then lose our salvation.

No he did not

You can not earn salvation. If you can not earn salvation, you can not unlearn salvation.

Don't you even believe Jesus? (a mental belief in this case).

lol.. I do believe jesus

I WILL NEVER die

I WILL LIVE forever

I WILL not be judged but have PASSED from death to life

I WILL be raised on the last day

I HAVE eternal life (not conditional life)

when will you start to trust Jesus?

 

[Eternally Grateful]

How many times does something need to be said in order for it to be true? Repeating a lie doesnt make it true

You tell me

rom 4:
4 What then shall we say that Abraham our father has found according to the flesh? 2 For if Abraham was justified by works, he has something to boast about, but not before God. 3 For what does the Scripture say? “Abraham believed God, and it was accounted to him for righteousness.” 4 Now to him who works, the wages are not counted as grace but as debt.

David Celebrates the Same Truth​

5 But to him who does not work but believes on Him who justifies the ungodly, his faith is accounted for righteousness, 6 just as David also describes the blessedness of the man to whom God imputes righteousness apart from works:

Rom 11: 6 And IF BY GRACE, THAN IT IS NO LONGER OF WORKS, ; otherwise GRACE IS NO LONGER GRACE .But IF IT IS OF WORKS, THEN IT IS NO LONGER OF GRACE. OTHERWISE WORK IS NO LONGER WORK

2 Tim 1: 9 who HAS SAVED US (A COMPLETED ACTION) and called us with a holy calling, NOT ACCORDING TO OUR WORKS , but ACCORDING TO HIS OWN PURPOSE AND GRACE which was GIVEN TO US in Christ Jesus BEFORE TIME BEGAN


Titus 3: 4 But when the kindness and the love of God our Savior toward man appeared, 5 NOT BY WORKS OF RIGHTEOUSNESS (GOOD DEEDS) WHICH WE HAVE DONE , but ACCORDING TO HIS MERCY HE SAVED US through the washing of regeneration and renewing of the Holy Spirit, 6 whom He poured out on us abundantly through Jesus Christ our Savior, 7 that HAVING BEEN JUSTIFIED BY HIS GRACE we should become HEIRS ACCORDING TO THE HOPE OF ETERNAL LIFE


So james said Faith plus works

Paul said faith alone. not of works lest we should boast.

so which one is right? Am I said by grace through faith, not of works, but by Gods mercy.

or am I saved by faith and works?

and when paul said grace and works do not mix (its like oil and water) and one cancels out the other. was paul misunderstanding of what Grace really was?


keep them coming my friend..

 

[Behold]

What if you would not have made any changes and kept doing the sinful things of your past, would you still be saved?

God does not save us based on our Behavior........He is saving Sinners......who were sinning all their lives.
And in that condition, God saves them.., because they put their faith in Christ which is what God requries of us so that He will give us His "Gift of Salvation"

Salvation is not based on our behavior.....its based on what Christ has finished on The Cross.. = as His Sacrifice to God on our behalf is our Salvaiton.

Jesus is Salvation.

Ephesians 2:

8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:

9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.

Romans 3 :

23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;

24 Being justified FREELY by his Grace ..... through... = the redemption that is in Christ Jesus:

 

[Ronald Nolette]

"Yes we are being made holy! And it is not a perverted view of God. What is a perverted view is that an omniscient, omnipotent, omnipresent god who knows the beginning from the end would give someone eternal life only to take it away later!"

Ronald, when do you receive eternal life? immediately when you believe? what does the bible say?

According to the words of Jesus and the Revelation given to John, eternal life is not fully received at the moment of belief, but is a future inheritance, granted at the resurrection, after a life of faithful obedience. While faith opens the path, eternal life is promised only to those who endure, overcome, and do the will of God until the end.

Jesus never said eternal life is a present possession. Instead, He taught it is something to be inherited in “the age to come” (Luke 18:30; Matthew 19:29). He tied it to the last day resurrection, saying, “everyone who believes… I will raise him up at the last day” (John 6:40). Belief begins the journey, but resurrection is when life is given.

He also warned that final judgment will be based on what each person has done:
“Those who have done good, to the resurrection of life; those who have done evil, to the resurrection of condemnation”(John 5:29). This confirms that eternal life is not automatic—it is the reward of righteousness.

Revelation echoes this truth. Jesus says, “Be faithful until death, and I will give you the crown of life” (Revelation 2:10). Only those who overcome will eat from the tree of life and enter the holy city (Revelation 2:7; 22:14). Eternal life is for those who do His commandments, not merely believe.

Eternal life is not given at the start of faith, but at its end—at the resurrection, to those who have walked the narrow path, kept the commandments, and remained faithful. As Jesus said, “He who endures to the end shall be saved” (Matthew 24:13).

this is what the bible teaches.

Sorry, but one verse proves you wrong!

1 John 5:13
These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God.

have eternal life is the present active indicative. gods Word proves this hypothesis of yours as well as many plain wrong!

The rest I have answered many times and shown that your thinking is the result of faulty exegesis and hermeneutics

 

[GodsGrace]

God does not save us based on our Behavior.......

Where's @Eternally Grateful when you need him??

See EG,,,this is what I'm talking about.
A Christian person is proclaiming that we are NOT saved based on our behavior.

Case closed.

.He is saving Sinners......who were sinning all their lives.
And in that condition, God saves them.., because they put their faith in Christ which is what God requries of us so that He will give us His "Gift of Salvation"

Salvation is not based on our behavior.....its based on what Christ has finished on The Cross.. = as His Sacrifice to God on our behalf is our Salvaiton.

Jesus is Salvation.

Ephesians 2:

8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:

9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.

Romans 3 :

23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;

24 Being justified FREELY by his Grace ..... through... = the redemption that is in Christ Jesus:

 

[nedsk]

You tell me

rom 4:
4 What then shall we say that Abraham our father has found according to the flesh? 2 For if Abraham was justified by works, he has something to boast about, but not before God. 3 For what does the Scripture say? “Abraham believed God, and it was accounted to him for righteousness.” 4 Now to him who works, the wages are not counted as grace but as debt.

David Celebrates the Same Truth​

5 But to him who does not work but believes on Him who justifies the ungodly, his faith is accounted for righteousness, 6 just as David also describes the blessedness of the man to whom God imputes righteousness apart from works:

Rom 11: 6 And IF BY GRACE, THAN IT IS NO LONGER OF WORKS, ; otherwise GRACE IS NO LONGER GRACE .But IF IT IS OF WORKS, THEN IT IS NO LONGER OF GRACE. OTHERWISE WORK IS NO LONGER WORK

2 Tim 1: 9 who HAS SAVED US (A COMPLETED ACTION) and called us with a holy calling, NOT ACCORDING TO OUR WORKS , but ACCORDING TO HIS OWN PURPOSE AND GRACE which was GIVEN TO US in Christ Jesus BEFORE TIME BEGAN


Titus 3: 4 But when the kindness and the love of God our Savior toward man appeared, 5 NOT BY WORKS OF RIGHTEOUSNESS (GOOD DEEDS) WHICH WE HAVE DONE , but ACCORDING TO HIS MERCY HE SAVED US through the washing of regeneration and renewing of the Holy Spirit, 6 whom He poured out on us abundantly through Jesus Christ our Savior, 7 that HAVING BEEN JUSTIFIED BY HIS GRACE we should become HEIRS ACCORDING TO THE HOPE OF ETERNAL LIFE


So james said Faith plus works

Paul said faith alone. not of works lest we should boast.

so which one is right? Am I said by grace through faith, not of works, but by Gods mercy.

or am I saved by faith and works?

and when paul said grace and works do not mix (its like oil and water) and one cancels out the other. was paul misunderstanding of what Grace really was?


keep them coming my friend..

once is the only answer. You people think saying "faith saved" 1000 times means the same as faith alone, It doesnt but I cant make you read with comprehension.

 

[GodsGrace]

Sorry, but one verse proves you wrong!

1 John 5:13
These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God.

have eternal life is the present active indicative. gods Word proves this hypothesis of yours as well as many plain wrong!

The rest I have answered many times and shown that your thinking is the result of faulty exegesis and hermeneutics

Right.

BELIEVE is also present active indicative.

Whatever that means...
is this a grammar lesson?

Please explain how ETERNAL LIFE is present active indicative
and BELIEVE somehow took place, one time, in the past and is NOT
present active indicative.

Jesus said He will give life to the one who believes....
BELIEVES

Do the grammar....

 

[Ronald Nolette]

For example – I give you a gift for your birthday.
It’s yours and I will never demand it back from you.
However, one day you lose interest in it and sell it.

Like any other gift - salvation can be discarded.

Sorry but once you have eternal life it is eternal. And as Jesus said , not even you can pluck yourself out of His hand!

John 10:28
And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand.

I will take the Word of God over mens philosophy!

His PLAN for you is perfect.

YOU are still being perfected (sanctified).

Correct! and as Jesus said:
Philippians 1:6
Being confident of this very thing, that he which hath begun a good work in you will perform it until the day of Jesus Christ:

What God starts--He finishes and not even the great and powerful Bread of Life is going to cause God to cease His work in you! Enjoy the ride and praise God for His incomprehensible love for you!

Again – it’s NOT about God “taking away” anything.

It’s about US throwing it back in His face. When we sin, we damage our relationship with Him. It is resolved when we come back to Him humbly, in repentance.

So once again you say there is a sin in your life Jesus did not shed His blood for. So Sorry and sad for you. Come to the Jesus of the bible and know freedom.

And YOU should spend more time heeding the warnings of Scripture that state that you absolutely CAN lose your secure position . . .

Hebrews 6:4-6
It is impossible for those who have once been enlightened, who have tasted the heavenly gift, who have shared in the Holy Spirit, who have tasted the goodness of the word of God and the powers of the coming age, if they fall away, to be brought back to repentance, because to their loss they are crucifying the Son of God all over again and subjecting him to public disgrace.
Clearly showing that a born-again believer CAN fall away and be LOST.

Hebrews 10:26-27
“If we sin deliberately AFTER receiving KNOWLEDGE of the truth, there no longer remains sacrifice for sins but a fearful prospect of judgment and a flaming fire that is going to consume the adversaries.”
This is a clear warning that falling away from God will result in the loss of our salvation. The Greek ford for “knowledge” used here is NOT the usual word (oida). This is talking about a full, experiential knowledge (epignosei). This verse is about CHRISTIANS who had an EPIGNOSIS of Christ and who can fall back into darkness and LOSE their salvation by their own doing.

2 Peter 2:20-22
For if they, having escaped the defilements of the world through the KNOWLEDGE of our Lord and savior Jesus Christ, again become entangled and overcome by them, their last condition is worse than their first.
For it would have been better for them not to have KNOWN the way of righteousness than after knowing it to turn back from the holy commandment handed down to them.
Here, Peter illustrates that those who had a full, experiential knowledge (epignosei) of Christ – CHRISTIANS – who can fall back into darkness and LOSE their salvation by their own doing.

Matt. 5:13
You are the salt of the earth. But if salt loses its taste, with what can it be seasoned? It is no longer good for anything but to be thrown out and trampled underfoot.
This one is self-explanatory - even to a blind person .

and you should learn exegesis, hermeneutics and how to apply the original languages. Then you would know these are not speaking of salvation.

Hey if you want to believe jesus did not die for all your sins that is your business, but it is a lie. And you are buying a lie if you believe that if you die with uncofessed sin- you go to hell.

But I will follow the truth of Scripture that says I will never perish, I am already dead and my life is hid with Christ in God.

and the best one of all I am a blessed man:

Romans 4:8
Blessed is the man to whom the Lord will not impute sin.

1. Romans 4:22
   And therefore it was imputed to him for righteousness.
   In Context | Full Chapter | Other Translations
2. Romans 4:23
   Now it was not written for his sake alone, that it was imputed to him;

Jesus atoned for my sin- and that means they are all erased! Not 99 44/100% as you theorize butr all of them.

Psalm 103:12
As far as the east is from the west, so far hath he removed our transgressions from us.

Hebrews 8:12
For I will be merciful to their unrighteousness, and their sins and their iniquities will I remember no more.

I will look to Jesus:

Hebrews 12:2
Looking unto Jesus the author and finisher of our faith; who for the joy that was set before him endured the cross, despising the shame, and is set down at the right hand of the throne of God.

Sorry you are so busy looking at yourself and seeing how well you are doing against a checklist.

 

[nedsk]

Sorry but once you have eternal life it is eternal. And as Jesus said , not even you can pluck yourself out of His hand!

John 10:28
And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand.

I will take the Word of God over mens philosophy!

Correct! and as Jesus said:
Philippians 1:6
Being confident of this very thing, that he which hath begun a good work in you will perform it until the day of Jesus Christ:

What God starts--He finishes and not even the great and powerful Bread of Life is going to cause God to cease His work in you! Enjoy the ride and praise God for His incomprehensible love for you!


So once again you say there is a sin in your life Jesus did not shed His blood for. So Sorry and sad for you. Come to the Jesus of the bible and know freedom.

And YOU should spend more time heeding the warnings of Scripture that state that you absolutely CAN lose your secure position . . .

Hebrews 6:4-6
It is impossible for those who have once been enlightened, who have tasted the heavenly gift, who have shared in the Holy Spirit, who have tasted the goodness of the word of God and the powers of the coming age, if they fall away, to be brought back to repentance, because to their loss they are crucifying the Son of God all over again and subjecting him to public disgrace.
Clearly showing that a born-again believer CAN fall away and be LOST.

Hebrews 10:26-27
“If we sin deliberately AFTER receiving KNOWLEDGE of the truth, there no longer remains sacrifice for sins but a fearful prospect of judgment and a flaming fire that is going to consume the adversaries.”
This is a clear warning that falling away from God will result in the loss of our salvation. The Greek ford for “knowledge” used here is NOT the usual word (oida). This is talking about a full, experiential knowledge (epignosei). This verse is about CHRISTIANS who had an EPIGNOSIS of Christ and who can fall back into darkness and LOSE their salvation by their own doing.

2 Peter 2:20-22
For if they, having escaped the defilements of the world through the KNOWLEDGE of our Lord and savior Jesus Christ, again become entangled and overcome by them, their last condition is worse than their first.
For it would have been better for them not to have KNOWN the way of righteousness than after knowing it to turn back from the holy commandment handed down to them.
Here, Peter illustrates that those who had a full, experiential knowledge (epignosei) of Christ – CHRISTIANS – who can fall back into darkness and LOSE their salvation by their own doing.

Matt. 5:13
You are the salt of the earth. But if salt loses its taste, with what can it be seasoned? It is no longer good for anything but to be thrown out and trampled underfoot.
This one is self-explanatory - even to a blind person .

and you should learn exegesis, hermeneutics and how to apply the original languages. Then you would know these are not speaking of salvation.

Hey if you want to believe jesus did not die for all your sins that is your business, but it is a lie. And you are buying a lie if you believe that if you die with uncofessed sin- you go to hell.

But I will follow the truth of Scripture that says I will never perish, I am already dead and my life is hid with Christ in God.

and the best one of all I am a blessed man:

Romans 4:8
Blessed is the man to whom the Lord will not impute sin.

1. Romans 4:22
   And therefore it was imputed to him for righteousness.
   In Context | Full Chapter | Other Translations
2. Romans 4:23
   Now it was not written for his sake alone, that it was imputed to him;

Jesus atoned for my sin- and that means they are all erased! Not 99 44/100% as you theorize butr all of them.

Psalm 103:12
As far as the east is from the west, so far hath he removed our transgressions from us.

Hebrews 8:12
For I will be merciful to their unrighteousness, and their sins and their iniquities will I remember no more.

I will look to Jesus:

Hebrews 12:2
Looking unto Jesus the author and finisher of our faith; who for the joy that was set before him endured the cross, despising the shame, and is set down at the right hand of the throne of God.

Sorry you are so busy looking at yourself and seeing how well you are doing against a checklist.

So by your accounting then once i am saved i can do whatever i like because i will never perish. Excellent. Please spare us the you were never saved nonsense. If faith is sufficient and I cannot lose my salvation then i can do whatever i like after i have faith.

 

[Behold]

A Christian person is proclaiming that we are NOT saved based on our behavior.

If you are saved by your behavior then Jesus didnt need to die on The Cross for you.

You just told Jesus that you are saved by your behavior.

That's pretty amazing Cross Rejecting heresy.


"well i didnt mean"....

Bujt its what you said.......you said you are "saved by your behavior"...as "a Christian person is proclaiming that we are not saved by our behavior"..... ....as if Jesus's Blood and Death are nothing.

 

[GodsGrace]

If you are saved by your behavior then Jesus didnt need to die on The Cross for you.

You just told Jesus that you are saved by your behavior.

That's pretty amazing Cross Rejecting heresy.


"well i didnt mean"....

Bujt its what you said.......you said you are "saved by your behavior".......as if Jesus's Blood and Death are nothing.

Here's what I mean Behold:
WE ARE SAVED BY OUR BEHAVIOR.

Paul taugth we are saved by our behavior...you might have missed it.

Romans 2:
5But because of your stubbornness and unrepentant heart you are storing up wrath for yourself in the day of wrath and revelation of the righteous judgment of God,
6who WILL RENDER TO EACH PERSON ACCORDING TO HIS DEEDS:
7to those who by perseverance in doing good seek for glory and honor and immortality, eternal life;
8but to those who are selfishly ambitious and do not obey the truth, but obey unrighteousness, wrath and indignation.


Jesus taught we will be judged by our behavior....you might have missed it.

John 5:28-29
25“Truly, truly, I say to you, an hour is coming and now is, when the dead will hear the voice of the Son of God, and those who hear will live.
26“For just as the Father has life in Himself, even so He gave to the Son also to have life in Himself;
27and He gave Him authority to execute judgment, because He is the Son of Man.
28“Do not marvel at this; for an hour is coming, in which all who are in the tombs will hear His voice,
29and will come forth; those who did the good deeds to a resurrection of life, those who committed the evil deeds to a resurrection of judgment.

 

[GodsGrace]

@Behold

Study up on the atonement theories.
Seems like you may not know any.

 

[Behold]

A Christian person is proclaiming that we are NOT saved based on our behavior.

Salvation is not your behavior.
Salvation is "The Gift of Salvaiton".....its Jesus offering Himself as a Sacrifice to God on your behalf.

You dont receive Salvaiton by Behavior, and you can't keep it by behavior.

How do you keep it?

You dont..........As God is the author of Salvation and "God is faithful to complete it".

 

[GodsGrace]

Salvation is not your behavior.
Salvation is "The Gift of Salvaiton".....its Jesus offering Himself as a Sacrifice to God on your behalf.

You dont receive Salvaiton by Behavior, and you can't keep it by behavior.

How do you keep it?

You dont..........As God is the author of Salvation and "God is faithful to complete it".

You're teaching a different gospel Behold.

You're truly in trouble -- theology-wise.

 

[Behold]

Here's what I mean Behold:
WE ARE SAVED BY OUR BEHAVIOR.

Paul taugth we are saved by our behavior...you might have missed it.

Romans 2:
5But because of your stubbornness and unrepentant heart you are storing up wrath for yourself in the day of wrath and revelation of the righteous judgment of God,
6who WILL RENDER TO EACH PERSON ACCORDING TO HIS DEEDS:
7to those who by perseverance in doing good seek for glory and honor and immortality, eternal life;
8but to those who are selfishly ambitious and do not obey the truth, but obey unrighteousness, wrath and indignation.

Your verse is not dealing with Salvation.

Notice......>"render to each person according to their deed"..

So, noone is saved by their Deeds.
They are saved by Jesus's Sacrifice.

How can you not know this, ???

29and will come forth; those who did the good deeds to a resurrection of life,

You think that Good deeds are why God will have you, when in Fact Jesus told you that He is the Only Way to the Father.

John 14:6

"no person comes to the Father but by ME".

See that?
That is not your behavior or your deeds.

 

[Behold]

@Behold

Study up on the atonement theories.
Seems like you may not know any.

Salvation is not a "theory".. its The Cross of Christ, ... .Its Jesus's Sacrifice for the sin of the world.


The Cross of Christ is the "blood atonement"., and the "new covenant".

 

[shepherdsword]

Good God you can not read Jude and think they were ever saved

I proved in context these men were never saved.

You didn't prove anything except for the fact you don't understand that you have to be born twice to die twice.

 

[shepherdsword]

Your verse is not dealing with Salvation.

Notice......>"render to each person according to their deed"..

So, noone is saved by their Deeds.
They are saved by Jesus's Sacrifice.

How can you not know this, ???





You think that Good deeds are why God will have you, when in Fact Jesus told you that He is the Only Way to the Father.

John 14:6

"no person comes to the Father but by ME".

See that?
That is not your behavior or your deeds.

I challenge you to present a single place in scripture where one is not judged by their deeds. name. one. single. place.