The coming of the Lord ushers in the end

[WPM]

Verses 1-4 shows that the sons of God intermarried with the daughters of men only because they were beautiful and that they also had multiple marriages. This is showing that the reason that the sons of God conformed to the unfaithful daughters of men was lust. This is the reason that the faithful dwindled down to just one man Noah

It doesn't say that. You said that.

 

[Marty fox]

It doesn't say that. You said that.

1 when human beings began to increase in number on the earth and daughters were born to them, 2 the sons of God saw that the daughters of humans were beautiful, and they married any of them they chose. 3 Then the Lord said, “My Spirit will not contend with humans forever, for they are mortal; their days will be a hundred and twenty years.”

Let’s take a look then, verse 2 shows that the text separates the sons of God and humans. Verse 2 also states that the sons of God the faithful married any daughter’s of men that they wanted, it doesn’t say because they loved them it said because they were beautiful which isn’t a solid reason to marry.

Verse 3 states “then the Lord said my spirit will not contend with humans forever“ showing that the multiple intermarrying was the reason. It also seams to show that the intermarriages are the reason that the sons of God wen’t mentioned anyone thus they are now called humans

My point is that the Holy Spirit works through the church and restrains satan but when the church starts to conform (like we are seeing today) the Holy Spirits powers recedes within the church, could that be the reason for satans release?

Why else would God rapture the church if more would be saved?

Obviously I don’t mean all Christians will conform

 

[Truth7t7]

Verses 1-4 shows that the sons of God intermarried with the daughters of men only because they were beautiful and that they also had multiple marriages. This is showing that the reason that the sons of God conformed to the unfaithful daughters of men was lust. This is the reason that the faithful dwindled down to just one man Noah

The Nephilim false teaching would be found in "Chuck Missler" he's dead and gone

Angels don't procreate with mortal humans, get real!

 

[Marty fox]

The Nephilim false teaching would be found in "Chuck Missler" he's dead and gone

Angels don't procreate with mortal humans, get real!

Of course they don’t and can’t that’s not what I’m saying at all as I never said that. I said that the sons of God are the faithful that conformed and came down to just one man Noah. Noah wasn’t an angel

 

[WPM]

1 when human beings began to increase in number on the earth and daughters were born to them, 2 the sons of God saw that the daughters of humans were beautiful, and they married any of them they chose. 3 Then the Lord said, “My Spirit will not contend with humans forever, for they are mortal; their days will be a hundred and twenty years.”

Let’s take a look then, verse 2 shows that the text separates the sons of God and humans. Verse 2 also states that the sons of God the faithful married any daughter’s of men that they wanted, it doesn’t say because they loved them it said because they were beautiful which isn’t a solid reason to marry.

Verse 3 states “then the Lord said my spirit will not contend with humans forever“ showing that the multiple intermarrying was the reason. It also seams to show that the intermarriages are the reason that the sons of God wen’t mentioned anyone thus they are now called humans

My point is that the Holy Spirit works through the church and restrains satan but when the church starts to conform (like we are seeing today) the Holy Spirits powers recedes within the church, could that be the reason for satans release?

Why else would God rapture the church if more would be saved?

Obviously I don’t mean all Christians will conform

I agree with where you are coming from. This is good.

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

Okay sure makes sense but what would trigger the wickedness no longer being restrained?

You mean what exactly would cause that? As an Amil, I believe it will be caused by Satan and his demons no longer being bound by God from preventing the preaching of the gospel in the world. I relate that time period to Satan's little season. It's a time that we're probably already in now where the preaching of the gospel is mostly drowned out by false teaching, false religions and philosophies and by people being too busy and preoccupied with many other activities that prevent them from taking the time to read or hear God's word.

 

[Marty fox]

You mean what exactly would cause that? As an Amil, I believe it will be caused by Satan and his demons no longer being bound by God from preventing the preaching of the gospel in the world. I relate that time period to Satan's little season. It's a time that we're probably already in now where the preaching of the gospel is mostly drowned out by false teaching, false religions and philosophies and by people being too busy and preoccupied with many other activities that prevent them from taking the time to read or hear God's word.

Yes I agree i just wonder how much most of the church will conform.

 

[Marty fox]

I agree with where you are coming from. This is good.

Thanks WPM I think that it really makes sense

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

Yes I agree i just wonder how much most of the church will conform.

What do you mean by that exactly?

 

[Marty fox]

What do you mean by that exactly?

What do you mean by that exactly?

Well some of the gospel is defiantly getting watered down I just wonder how much of the church world wide will water it down

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

Well some of the gospel is defiantly getting watered down I just wonder how much of the church world wide will water it down

I don't know how bad God will allow it to get before Jesus returns. Jesus did say it will be like the days of Noah, so it seems it will get pretty bad before Jesus returns, if not quite as bad as those days when only 8 people in the entire world were saved.

 

[WPM]

I don't know how bad God will allow it to get before Jesus returns. Jesus did say it will be like the days of Noah, so it seems it will get pretty bad before Jesus returns, if not quite as bad as those days when only 8 people in the entire world were saved.

Revelation 16:12-16 describes the period before the coming of Christ: “And the sixth angel poured out his vial upon the great river Euphrates; and the water thereof was dried up, that the way of the kings of the east might be prepared. And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs come out of the mouth of [1] the dragon, (Satan) and out of the mouth of [2] the beast, and out of the mouth of [3] the false prophet. For they are the spirits of devils, working miracles, which go forth unto the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that great day of God Almighty. Behold, I come as a thief. Blessed is he that watcheth, and keepeth his garments, lest he walk naked, and they see his shame. And he gathered them together into a place called in the Hebrew tongue Armageddon."

Here we see a vivid record of Satan’s final onslaught before the coming of Christ. This passage shows that there are symbolic frogs coming from the mouths of the dragon, beast and false prophet. We do not need to guess who they are. It tells us that “they are the spirits of devils, working miracles.”

 

[Jay Ross]

Revelation 16:12-16 describes the period before the coming of Christ: “And the sixth angel poured out his vial upon the great river Euphrates; and the water thereof was dried up, that the way of the kings of the east might be prepared. And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs come out of the mouth of [1] the dragon, (Satan) and out of the mouth of [2] the beast, and out of the mouth of [3] the false prophet. For they are the spirits of devils, working miracles, which go forth unto the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that great day of God Almighty. Behold, I come as a thief. Blessed is he that watcheth, and keepeth his garments, lest he walk naked, and they see his shame. And he gathered them together into a place called in the Hebrew tongue Armageddon."

Here we see a vivid record of Satan’s final onslaught before the coming of Christ. This passage shows that there are symbolic frogs coming from the mouths of the dragon, beast and false prophet. We do not need to guess who they are. It tells us that “they are the spirits of devils, working miracles.”

Sorry, what is being prophesied in the Sixth Bowl Judgement is unfolding at this present time with the judged kings of the earth and the judged heavenly hosts being gathered together and imprisoned in the Bottomless Pit for 1,000 years before they will be released for the Little While Period at the end of the Seventh Age.

We have already seen the three unclean spirits like frogs working signs and wonders, seen all around the world as they unfolded in 2001AD.

We also should acknowledge that the Sevent Bowl Judgement player out in the last century, i.e. the 20th century which can be discerned by those who have eyes to see and ears to hear.

Yes, Christ will be coming towards the end of the Little While period at the end of the Seventh Age.

When we see the kings of the earth gathering at the place called Armageddon in around 20 years from now, we will be able to understand that the Sixth Bowl Judgement has been completed.

Shalom

 

[Lizbeth]

I think it was both:

Gen 6:5 And GOD saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.
Gen 6:6 And it repented the LORD that he had made man on the earth, and it grieved him at his heart.
Gen 6:7 And the LORD said, I will destroy man whom I have created from the face of the earth; both man, and beast, and the creeping thing, and the fowls of the air; for it repenteth me that I have made them.
Gen 6:8 But Noah found grace in the eyes of the LORD.

Amen. And I would submit that Noah was a type or prefiguration of Jesus. That is why he was the only one righteous.

The ark represents the kingdom of God and Noah got his "family" (family of God) on board, along with the animals which represented lost souls being saved (like Peter's vision of the unclean animals representing lost Gentiles). It mirrors where Jesus spoke of "those who were invited would not come" so invitations to salvation was sent out to the highways and byways (in type) that the wedding might be full.

 

[Lizbeth]

2 Peter 3:3-13 tells us: “there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts, And saying, Where is the promise of His coming [Gr. parousia]? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation. For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water: Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished: But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men. But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day. The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance. But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up. Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness, Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat? Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.”

There is nothing ambiguous about this passage. It is a clear literal straightforward passage that is devoid of the much symbolism that attends the detail of Revelation.

How can anyone survive this? They cannot! It's impossible! Well, the second coming is the end for the wicked, the righteous inherit the new heavens and new earth; not some suppose future thousand years that is polluted by sin, sinners, Satan, death and ongoing corruption. The appearing of Christ spells the end for all unrighteousness. Anything that is not glorified is consumed. Peter demonstrates here that when Jesus comes back the heavens, earth and all that is on the earth, and the elements are going to dissolve. His glory and unchallenged reign will be set up on the new renewed earth.

Just want to say that I believe these things were fulfilled against Israel in the end of the old covenant age......but it serves as a prefiguration and warning of the judgment that will happen to the mostly Gentile church in the end of this age.

1Co 10:11-12
Now all these things happened unto them for ensamples: and they are written for our admonition, upon whom the ends of the world are come.
Wherefore let him that thinketh he standeth take heed lest he fall.

Rom 2:9
Tribulation and anguish, upon every soul of man that doeth evil, of the Jew first, and also of the Gentile;

Please do ask the Lord and test these things but the scritpure says judgment begins with His house.....He judged His house of Israel in 70AD and He is going to judge His apostate deceived church as well in the end of this age of grace. (And then the rest of the unbelieving world). It's no wonder there are so many warnings and admonishments to the church in the new testament.

 

[amigo de christo]

I don't know how bad God will allow it to get before Jesus returns. Jesus did say it will be like the days of Noah, so it seems it will get pretty bad before Jesus returns, if not quite as bad as those days when only 8 people in the entire world were saved.

Its very bad even now as we speak .
The reason that more and more cannot see we are in a massive fallin away
is due to the fact they were duped into it by means of a false love.
A love that both makes JESUS the minstir of sin and even unbelief as it has made the path to GOD
very very broad . SO broad now that just about every unrepentant one is on it .
The only ones they seem to have a problem with are the sheep who both remind OF the dire necessity to beleive on JESUS
and correct the sins and errors in the church .
Now if we examine this big move called inclusivity and interfaith
you will see anti christ at its core big time . These leaders of christendom
told the unbelieving religoins they serve the same GOD we do . ITS RIGHT THERE .
but if we also take notice they are being promised THIS is the way to PEACE N SAFETY .
And now a word from long long ago .
FOR when they shall say PEACE N safety THEN SUDDEN destruction comes upon them all and they will not escape .
ITS real clear as to what days these be my friend . Clear to the sheep .
A spirit of mass delusion and all out reprobation has been poured upon the nations of this world
and worse upon Even christendom itself . And many now clambor together under the shade
of another one who has come in his own name to decieve and to lead them all to the day of their perdition
as they , the world , the false religoins , even much of christendom
gather as one against the sheep . And beleiving its they who do the will of God . The time is and is coming
when even our own betrayers will be wearing wool .

 

[amigo de christo]

Just want to say that I believe these things were fulfilled against Israel in the end of the old covenant age......but it serves as a prefiguration and warning of the judgment that will happen to the mostly Gentile church in the end of this age.

1Co 10:11-12
Now all these things happened unto them for ensamples: and they are written for our admonition, upon whom the ends of the world are come.
Wherefore let him that thinketh he standeth take heed lest he fall.

Rom 2:9
Tribulation and anguish, upon every soul of man that doeth evil, of the Jew first, and also of the Gentile;

Please do ask the Lord and test these things but the scritpure says judgment begins with His house.....He judged His house of Israel in 70AD and He is going to judge His apostate deceived church as well in the end of this age of grace. (And then the rest of the unbelieving world). It's no wonder there are so many warnings and admonishments to the church in the new testament.

And if we read all them lovely admonitions for ourselves
then we had seen quite clearly
what led to the destruction of Jerusalem
CHRISTENDOM now does and it will lead to The destruction of all who gathered under its cry for peace
as they made the road to GOD very SIN FRIENDLY and accepting , and accepting EVEN UNBELIEF in CHRIST .
They see it as love and as a means for world peace n safety
IS IT ANY WONDER paul warned for when they shall SAY PEACE N SAFETY
Sudden destruction shall come upon them all , THAT DAY shall come upon them as a snare , as a thief in the night .
For the children of night played in the darkness and embraced
the darkness as light and a lie as love and the love of GOD . Many can no longer discern at all
what is or what is going on my sister .
But its high time the peoples come out of this entire web of deciet that has been spun unto them
by the love spider and its webs of love . CAUSE what is in the center of that web
,that spider that spins that love web and catches all in its love
IT AINT GOD sister . The devil can blend into any realm , any denomination
and as a chameleon can appear to be OF said group in order to DECIEVE said group .
ITS all over the churches , its all over the politicans and many do its work, its dark work
and say THIS IS THE LIGHT come ye all and enter into our broad love covenant . BUT IT DARN sure aint GOD
for this entity HAS DENIED the TESTIMONY OF GOD
IT has denied the dire need to repent to beleive ON HIM
and it has even turned him into a supporter of sins . THAT AINT GOD sister . as i KNOW you already WELL KNOW THIS sister .

 

[amigo de christo]

Just want to say that I believe these things were fulfilled against Israel in the end of the old covenant age......but it serves as a prefiguration and warning of the judgment that will happen to the mostly Gentile church in the end of this age.

1Co 10:11-12
Now all these things happened unto them for ensamples: and they are written for our admonition, upon whom the ends of the world are come.
Wherefore let him that thinketh he standeth take heed lest he fall.

Rom 2:9
Tribulation and anguish, upon every soul of man that doeth evil, of the Jew first, and also of the Gentile;

Please do ask the Lord and test these things but the scritpure says judgment begins with His house.....He judged His house of Israel in 70AD and He is going to judge His apostate deceived church as well in the end of this age of grace. (And then the rest of the unbelieving world). It's no wonder there are so many warnings and admonishments to the church in the new testament.

The PURE and HOLY example of the sheep IS KING JESUS .
Who suffered brutually at the hands of men .
And after having been brutally beaten beyond recognition
as he was carrying his cross told them all
WEEP NOT FOR ME , but for yourselves , for if this can be done in the green tree
What do ye suppose will happen to the dry .
And later the apostels would echo this cry
For they all knew They were no better than their master
and if the world had hated him that it would them too .
And if beleivers can suffer evil harsh fates at the hands of men
HOW Much worse for those who denied JESUS THE CHRIST .
The time is and is coming wherein the door will close and all outside shall surely wail .

 

[amigo de christo]

Just want to say that I believe these things were fulfilled against Israel in the end of the old covenant age......but it serves as a prefiguration and warning of the judgment that will happen to the mostly Gentile church in the end of this age.

1Co 10:11-12
Now all these things happened unto them for ensamples: and they are written for our admonition, upon whom the ends of the world are come.
Wherefore let him that thinketh he standeth take heed lest he fall.

Rom 2:9
Tribulation and anguish, upon every soul of man that doeth evil, of the Jew first, and also of the Gentile;

Please do ask the Lord and test these things but the scritpure says judgment begins with His house.....He judged His house of Israel in 70AD and He is going to judge His apostate deceived church as well in the end of this age of grace. (And then the rest of the unbelieving world). It's no wonder there are so many warnings and admonishments to the church in the new testament.

And none does repent of his wickedness for they have promised them all life .
They have strengthened the hands of evil doers .
And by means of what most now beleive is love they have completely and utterly decieved this people .
But many seem to no longer know
there is the love of the world , THEN THERE IS THE TRUE AGAPE LOVE OF GOD
and ye cannot be seated in both . THEY will hold to the love of the world
and if the love of the world is the love of a man THEN THE LOVE of the FATHER IS NOT IN HIM
for all that is in the world , the lusts of the flesh , the lust of the eyes , the pride of life
IS NOT of the FATHER but is of the world
NOW go too and examine exactly what their love seems to support
and see what it seems to hate . cant have the love of both for they will hold to the one and despise the other .

 

[Lizbeth]

And if we read all them lovely admonitions for ourselves
then we had seen quite clearly
what led to the destruction of Jerusalem
CHRISTENDOM now does and it will lead to The destruction of all who gathered under its cry for peace
as they made the road to GOD very SIN FRIENDLY and accepting , and accepting EVEN UNBELIEF in CHRIST .
They see it as love and as a means for world peace n safety
IS IT ANY WONDER paul warned for when they shall SAY PEACE N SAFETY
Sudden destruction shall come upon them all , THAT DAY shall come upon them as a snare , as a thief in the night .
For the children of night played in the darkness and embraced
the darkness as light and a lie as love and the love of GOD . Many can no longer discern at all
what is or what is going on my sister .
But its high time the peoples come out of this entire web of deciet that has been spun unto them
by the love spider and its webs of love . CAUSE what is in the center of that web
,that spider that spins that love web and catches all in its love
IT AINT GOD sister . The devil can blend into any realm , any denomination
and as a chameleon can appear to be OF said group in order to DECIEVE said group .
ITS all over the churches , its all over the politicans and many do its work, its dark work
and say THIS IS THE LIGHT come ye all and enter into our broad love covenant . BUT IT DARN sure aint GOD
for this entity HAS DENIED the TESTIMONY OF GOD
IT has denied the dire need to repent to beleive ON HIM
and it has even turned him into a supporter of sins . THAT AINT GOD sister . as i KNOW you already WELL KNOW THIS sister .

Amen. Friendship with the world.....in order to avoid conflict and persecution....compromises the faith and is enmity with God. Jesus said He came not to bring peace but a sword.