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[Ronald Nolette]

I was never a Jews for Jesus type.
I saw them as immature and silly in too many ways.

Maybe they also thought you were silly and immature in too many ways .

 

[GeneZ]

You’re so delusional and under the veil it’s unnerving to watch.

You talk all this smack, yet you can’t refute the Word of God that crushes your entire belief system:

“If you are Christ’s, you are Abraham’s seed.” (Gal. 3:29)
“There is neither Jew nor Greek… you are all one in Christ.” (Gal. 3:28)
“He is not a Jew who is one outwardly… but inwardly, by the Spirit.” (Rom. 2:28–29)
“Not all who are descended from Israel are Israel.” (Rom. 9:6)
“The Church is the Israel of God.” (Gal. 6:16)
…and that’s just scratching the surface.

So why are you even arguing with me? You clearly don’t follow the Word of God; that is obvious from just reading this thread.
And here’s the part that should shake you to your core, no Christian on Earth believed what you believe until after 1909.
That’s not opinion; that’s court-of-law provable history. For 2,000 years, the apostles, the early Church Fathers, and the Word itself all declared that the Body of Christ is the Israel of God (Gal. 6:16)

And while out here calling yourself a "Christian and follower of God's Word".. ^ these facts don't even faze you. (absolutely terrifying beyond all measure; and the strong delusion on full display just like Paul warned) Basically that God the Father, Christ, the Apostles and every Church Father for nearly 2000 years all got it wrong and Darby, Scofield and Lord Rothschild finally got it right in 1909..
It’s such a blasphemous notion, it should come with a laugh track and a Scofield Study Bible signed by Satan himself. It's like believing that God forgot to mention the "real plan" until 1909, then slipped it under the table to Scofield over tea with Lord Rothschild.

The fact that this blindingly obvious, neon-flashing, air-raid-siren reality doesn’t send up a million red flags and alarm bells for you is absolutely staggering; the stuff of Revelation-level judgment and apocalyptic horror.. The naked & plain Word of God destroys your entire theology in under 2 minutes flat.. Gal. 3:29, Gal. 3:28, Rom. 2:28–29, Rom. 9:6, Gal. 6:16 and on and on and on...

If an 80-year-old Christian in 1970 could see the way you bewitched, evangelicals act now, they’d drop to their knees in horror and cry out that the veil has fallen, the great falling away has occurred, and 80–90% of the U.S. church is already on the broad road to hell.

Dumb and Dumber is being reissued for streaming.
While reading your post I recalled that it was.
Thank you... For being a reminder.

 

[GeneZ]

Maybe they also thought you were silly and immature in too many ways .

Not really.
I was a Jew.
They were simply being silly.

Yes, we are told we are to be fools for Christ.
That is not to be misconstrued for being foolish.

Its like that old song line...
"I am a fool for your love."

It is not, "I am foolish for your love."

Sorry. But I was not alone in what I saw happening.

At one time?
I applied to the American Board of Missions to the Jews.
I had nothing against making a Christian appeal to Jews.

The Jews for Jesus began during the insane Hippy years.
It was designed to be expressed on a certain emotional level.
It fit in with the times for a few years, but eventually faded out as people's real needs changed.

Some may still be around. Who knows?

 

[The Gospel of Christ]

Dumb and Dumber is being reissued for streaming.
While reading your post I recalled that it was.
Thank you... For being a reminder.

You follow a false theology that a 14-year-old with a Bible, four minutes, and an overhead projector could dismantle in front of a room full of PhDs. That makes you the last person on earth who should be throwing around the word “dumb” at anyone..

 

[GeneZ]

You follow a false theology that a 14-year-old with a Bible, four minutes, and an overhead projector could dismantle in front of a room full of PhDs. That makes you the last person on earth who should be throwing around the word “dumb” at anyone..

Good bye....

Believe whatever you want about me not being able to refute you as your excuse for me cutting you off.
Anyone lacking sense enough to think your hatred is vindicated because you can plaster chapters and verses
on a page? Does not need refutation. Its obvious to all whom the Spirit fills and has gown sufficiently.

On IGNORE.

 

[The Gospel of Christ]

GeneZ,

You don't follow the Word of God..

“If you are Christ’s, you are Abraham’s seed.” (Gal. 3:29)
“There is neither Jew nor Greek, slave nor free... you are all one in Christ.” (Gal. 3:28)
“He is not a Jew who is one outwardly… but inwardly, by the Spirit.” (Rom. 2:28–29)
“Not all who are descended from Israel are Israel.” (Rom. 9:6)
“The Church is the Israel of God.” (Gal. 6:16)

So what you "believe" really doesn't matter and in fact.. shouldn't matter to anyone.
Anyone trying to avoid the gates of hell should treat what you preach as poison.

If any of the kids on this forum have common sense, they’ll put you on ignore now;
before you lead them straight into the maw of hell.

 

[Ronald Nolette]

Not really.
I was a Jew.
They were simply being silly.

Yes, we are told we are to be fools for Christ.
That is not to be misconstrued for being foolish.

Its like that old song line...
"I am a fool for your love."

It is not, "I am foolish for your love."

Sorry. But I was not alone in what I saw happening.

At one time?
I applied to the American Board of Missions to the Jews.
I had nothing against making a Christian appeal to Jews.

The Jews for Jesus began during the insane Hippy years.
It was designed to be expressed on a certain emotional level.
It fit in with the times for a few years, but eventually faded out as people's real needs changed.

Some may still be around. Who knows?

I was saved as a hippie, during the hippie movement. Yeah, lots of emotion, but there are literally hundreds of thousands of us still loving Jesus and trying to share the gospel with the lost.

I have no clue what you thought was silly, but I do know many who came from the Jews for Jesus movement, while they emote and think differently than me in areas are true lovers of Jesus.

 

[Reggie Belafonte]

I was saved as a hippie, during the hippie movement. Yeah, lots of emotion, but there are literally hundreds of thousands of us still loving Jesus and trying to share the gospel with the lost.

I have no clue what you thought was silly, but I do know many who came from the Jews for Jesus movement, while they emote and think differently than me in areas are true lovers of Jesus.

A Jesus ? not Christ-Jesus in fact !

 

[GeneZ]

I was saved as a hippie, during the hippie movement. Yeah, lots of emotion, but there are literally hundreds of thousands of us still loving Jesus and trying to share the gospel with the lost.

I have no clue what you thought was silly, but I do know many who came from the Jews for Jesus movement, while they emote and think differently than me in areas are true lovers of Jesus.

They were good for relating to the Hippy movement.
That is why they were silly!

BTW.... I was a musician during a part of the Hippy movement.
I saw things I hope most did not.
Those were not silly.

 

[Ronald Nolette]

They were good for relating to the Hippy movement.
That is why they were silly!

BTW.... I was a musician during a part of the Hippy movement.
I saw things I hope most did not.
Those were not silly.

So , you do not like the way they did things. they led untold legions to Jesus.

They did as Paul said,

1 Corinthians 9:22
To the weak became I as weak, that I might gain the weak: I am made all things to all men, that I might by all means save some.

they identified with who they were witnessing to without overtly sinning. You will not win many hippies going in a 3 piece suit, nor will you win the 3 piece suit crowd dressed like a hippie!

 

[Scott Downey]

They were good for relating to the Hippy movement.
That is why they were silly!

BTW.... I was a musician during a part of the Hippy movement.
I saw things I hope most did not.
Those were not silly.

Like immoral things?

 

[GeneZ]

Like immoral things?

Funny how close they are?...

Immoral.

I'm moral.

 

[GeneZ]

So , you do not like the way they did things. they led untold legions to Jesus.

They did as Paul said,

1 Corinthians 9:22
To the weak became I as weak, that I might gain the weak: I am made all things to all men, that I might by all means save some.

they identified with who they were witnessing to without overtly sinning. You will not win many hippies going in a 3 piece suit, nor will you win the 3 piece suit crowd dressed like a hippie!

I am not saying they are not saved.
But there are alleged believers who will (in spite of themselves) lead many to the Lord.

Here are some folks who have people believing in Christ
These ones doing it?
Jesus said were never saved.

Matthew 7:22-23

Many will say to me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name
and in your name drive out demons and in your name perform many miracles?’
Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!’​

Many people have come to Christ in such meetings, in spite that what they presented.
Don't get me wrong.
I am not saying that Jews for Jesus are not saved. They are true believers.
But, I am saying that being available to witness in the name of Jesus....
And people get saved?
Does not mean in God's eyes the one doing it is a great believer.

Many will say to me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name
and in your name drive out demons and in your name perform many miracles?’
Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!’​

We will know good solid believers by how they teach from the Word, besides simply witnessing and people getting saved.

Matthew 7:22-23 - Many people have gotten saved by believing in Christ by means of actions of men Jesus calls evil.

grace and peace ..........

 

[Ronald Nolette]

I am not saying they are not saved.
But there are alleged believers who will (in spite of themselves) lead many to the Lord.

Here are some folks who have people believing in Christ
These ones doing it?
Jesus said were never saved.

Matthew 7:22-23

Many will say to me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name ​

and in your name drive out demons and in your name perform many miracles?’ ​

Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!’​

Many people have come to Christ in such meetings, in spite that what they presented.
Don't get me wrong.
I am not saying that Jews for Jesus are not saved. They are true believers.
But, I am saying that being available to witness in the name of Jesus....
And people get saved?
Does not mean in God's eyes the one doing it is a great believer.

Many will say to me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name ​

and in your name drive out demons and in your name perform many miracles?’ ​

Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!’​

We will know good solid believers by how they teach from the Word, besides simply witnessing and people getting saved.

Matthew 7:22-23 - Many people have gotten saved by believing in Christ by means of actions of men Jesus calls evil.

grace and peace ..........

You keep citing a verse about people who were never believers though.

Also what was so silly about the Jews for Jesus for you to openly criticize them

what were they doing you call silly?

 

[GeneZ]

You keep citing a verse about people who were never believers though.

Also what was so silly about the Jews for Jesus for you to openly criticize them

what were they doing you call silly?

I was simply saying leading others to the Lord does not automatically make them into spiritually sound believers to God.
You were giving Jews for Jesus a free pass with God for their ability to give cause for others to believe.

I would like to see what some of them have matured into over the years.

When I was in Bible college, I witnessed to some immature people being seen as great believers
because they would soul win.

I was saved by reading a tract.

 

[Ronald Nolette]

I was simply saying leading others to the Lord does not automatically make them into spiritually sound believers to God.
You were giving Jews for Jesus a free pass with God for their ability to give cause for others to believe.

I would like to see what some of them have matured into over the years.

When I was in Bible college, I witnessed to some immature people being seen as great believers
because they would soul win.

I was saved by reading a tract.

So what did Jews for Jesus do that makes you call them silly?

 

[GeneZ]

So what did Jews for Jesus do that makes you call them silly?

Side by side, two of them prancing la la land style down a sidewalk in a town that I worked in.
Acting like they were handing out pamphlets for a circus in town.
It was totally goofy and embarrassing to witness to.

It got the people's attention.
But the wrong kind.
They looked like idiots, and made me want nothing to do with them.

That was before I became interested in God's Word.
They made it look like Christ was fairy tale land stuff.

 

[Reggie Belafonte]

Side by side, two of them prancing la la land style down a sidewalk in a town that I worked in.
Acting like they were handing out pamphlets for a circus in town.
It was totally goofy and embarrassing to witness to.

It got the people's attention.
But the wrong kind.
They looked like idiots, and made me want nothing to do with them.

That was before I became interested in God's Word.
They made it look like Christ was fairy tale land stuff.

I seen that They chased down people in Jails or had been in Jail.
Not that that is a bad thing ? but they were and are feeding on people who They only want to control.
My mate in this Mob pointed out that such is within Government projects like Alcholics set ups and from mental hospital people ? and Schools ! They work to only own such people ? They worm their way into such things. like a secret socierty.
They can get a Nutter to kill you ? and the nutter will get off ! they have Legal people on board as well.

 

[Ronald Nolette]

Side by side, two of them prancing la la land style down a sidewalk in a town that I worked in.
Acting like they were handing out pamphlets for a circus in town.
It was totally goofy and embarrassing to witness to.

It got the people's attention.
But the wrong kind.
They looked like idiots, and made me want nothing to do with them.

That was before I became interested in God's Word.
They made it look like Christ was fairy tale land stuff.

To you but maybe not to them or others. Just because they acted differently than what you would does not make it generally silly- but just to you. Maybe they were experiencing an abundance of joy.

I guess you would have thought King David very silly when He danced naked down the streets because of the exuberant joy of the Lord he felt.

 

[GeneZ]

To you but maybe not to them or others. Just because they acted differently than what you would does not make it generally silly- but just to you. Maybe they were experiencing an abundance of joy.

I guess you would have thought King David very silly when He danced naked down the streets because of the exuberant joy of the Lord he felt.

King David?

I would have been playing a drum solo to his dancing..
And, he would have loved it!

I am a musician and are familiar with theatrics.
It can be effective and good.

And, then? It can hurt the reason for doing it.
I would not play drum solos at weddings or baby showers.

I have nothing against acting silly when it is a good time to be.
To me... coming to Christ is something sacred but not rigidly dull..

There is a time to every season under heaven.
A time to be silly.
And, a time to reveal God's truth (which can still be revealed with humor and lightheartedness).


Just picture at a wake.

A coffin is presented in the front of the room.
Everyone is seated and quietly facing the closed coffin.

Suddenly! Up from behind the side of the coffin where the people can not see?
Up pops two funny looking puppets!
Who begin talking in a jesting way, about salvation in Christ!

Who knows?
Someone there may just get saved.

Did that make it right?

(I think it would be great for Jeff Dunham's funeral. )