The coming of the Lord ushers in the end

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IndianaRob

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I know. Which results in them never talking about the cross or about the future return of Christ or the age to come.
They don’t talk about a future return of Christ because they know it’s already happened but for some reason they can’t see that His return was the resurrection.
 
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Being obsessed about the coming of Titus in AD70 is certainly not one of those things they have right.
Amen to that. And a vast majority of preterists (including partial preterists) that I have come across are obsessed with 70 AD and rarely, if ever, talk about the glorious return of Jesus Christ in the future and what He has in store for us at that time.
 
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I Agree 100%

Homosexuals behind pulpits and being married with the governments approval around the world?

60 million unborn children being killed annually in the world (Abortion)?

Homosexuality being pushed on innocent children in public schools behind parents backs?

How much more will the Lord Jesus allow to take place?

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It seems like it can't be much more, but there's no way to know for sure. We just have to keep defending the faith while fighting against all of the extreme wickedness that is going on while trying to serve the Lord the best we can until He returns.

Matthew 24:45 “Who then is a faithful and wise servant, whom his master made ruler over his household, to give them food in due season? 46 Blessed is that servant whom his master, when he comes, will find so doing. 47 Assuredly, I say to you that he will make him ruler over all his goods.
 

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But this is my point:

I have been on forums like this since the year 2000. All Preterists want to talk about is AD70, Titus, judgment, Jerusalem and the Jews. It gets old after a while. They are obsessed with these. There is no discussions about the glorious climatic return of Jesus Christ. There's no discussions about the afterlife. There is just post after post about AD70. Frankly, it is ridiculous. It is a distraction of the enemy.

Anytime any of the rest of us want to talk about this momentous event you Preterists are there to try and tear it down, pull it apart, belittle it and attack it. It is impossible to get you temperature temperature even know it will be the most glorious and pivotal moment in history.
The important thing is to be ready for Him at any time. And not to be fooled by counterfeits. So we need to lose our vain imaginations and rightly divide the word. He warned that His coming would NOT be in a manner that we may say lo here He is or there. So if anyone comes saying lo here or there He is in a specific location (like earthly Jerusalem and the Temple) we are not to believe them. Scripture says He comes to be glorified in His saints......and I wonder if we can think of that as being the temple of His saints.
 
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The important thing is to be ready for Him at any time. And not to be fooled by counterfeits. So we need to lose our vain imaginations and rightly divide the word. He warned that His coming would NOT be in a manner that we may say lo here He is or there. So if anyone comes saying lo here or there He is in a specific location (like earthly Jerusalem and the Temple) we are not to believe them. Scripture says He comes to be glorified in His saints......and I wonder if we can think of that as being the temple of His saints.

Bingo!
 
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The important thing is to be ready for Him at any time. And not to be fooled by counterfeits. So we need to lose our vain imaginations and rightly divide the word. He warned that His coming would NOT be in a manner that we may say lo here He is or there. So if anyone comes saying lo here or there He is in a specific location (like earthly Jerusalem and the Temple) we are not to believe them. Scripture says He comes to be glorified in His saints......and I wonder if we can think of that as being the temple of His saints.
I agree!
 
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Amen. And if He's coming to be glorified in His saints as a temple, then we need to be building up, preparing and sanctifying our temples for His habitation. The church has gotten so caught up in the anticipation of and trying to forecast and imagine external apocalyptic events that it has neglected the spiritual.
 

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Amen. And if He's coming to be glorified in His saints as a temple, then we need to be building up, preparing and sanctifying our temples for His habitation. The church has gotten so caught up in the anticipation of and trying to forecast and imagine external apocalyptic events that it has neglected the spiritual.
Suppose he has come, what should we do?
Is it crazy about everything?
 

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Amen. And if He's coming to be glorified in His saints as a temple, then we need to be building up, preparing and sanctifying our temples for His habitation. The church has gotten so caught up in the anticipation of and trying to forecast and imagine external apocalyptic events that it has neglected the spiritual.
Christians can live in the past and the future, and miss the moment. Both are equally wrong. Both cause a believer to take their eye off the ball. Extreme Pretersists are the most fixated group I have ever met. All they want to talk about is AD70, which was an ancient judgment on the Jews. What is more, it is impossible to get them to talk at length about the sinless life, atoning death and victorious resurrection of Jesus Christ. It is impossible to get them to talk at length about the future glorious return of Jesus Christ and the age to come. They do not seem interested in all that. This is extremely troubling to me!

The fact is, we are not called today keep our eyes upon the punishment of apostate Israel back 2000 years ago, we are called to watch and be ready for the glorious climatic return of the Lord Jesus Christ. That is the "blessed hope" (Titus 2:13) of the redeemed. We are not under judgment. We are not facing judgment. We are facing eternal bliss.
 
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Suppose he has come, what should we do?
Is it crazy about everything?
He has come the first time...........but He is coming a second time without sin unto salvation, for those who are looking for His appearing. And I believe looking, watching, and preparing are on a personal level for each soul. Sanctify, cleanse, anoint, consecrate our temples to the Lord to make ready for Him. Or at least that is what we should be focused on more than external apocalyptic things. The church has gotten so distracted and sidetracked with "eschatology".

What do you believe about the second coming of Christ.....do you believe He already came in 70AD? Judgment is the to Jew first then the Gentile.....I believe the Jews were judged in 70AD but that He hasn't judged the "Gentile" yet...the mostly Gentile church. To my understanding, Israel's judgment was a pattern of things to come regarding the church in her apostasy.

Rom 2:9
Tribulation and anguish, upon every soul of man that doeth evil, of the Jew first, and also of the Gentile;
 
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He has come the first time...........but He is coming a second time without sin unto salvation, for those who are looking for His appearing. And I believe looking, watching, and preparing are on a personal level for each soul. Sanctify, cleanse, anoint, consecrate our temples to the Lord to make ready for Him. Or at least that is what we should be focused on more than external apocalyptic things. The church has gotten so distracted and sidetracked with "eschatology".

What do you believe about the second coming of Christ.....do you believe He already came in 70AD? Judgment is the to Jew first then the Gentile.....I believe the Jews were judged in 70AD but that He hasn't judged the "Gentile" yet...the mostly Gentile church. To my understanding, Israel's judgment was a pattern of things to come regarding the church in her apostasy.

Rom 2:9
Tribulation and anguish, upon every soul of man that doeth evil, of the Jew first, and also of the Gentile;
I say he has been come not coming, in heaven or in the sky, not on earth, the rest can only rely on our own faith, he broke all the lies, Nothing but faith can save us.


Endure to the end, as the Bible says.


I don't know why this website won't open.but if you could open it, take some time to read.
 

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Anytime any of the rest of us want to talk about this momentous event you Preterists are there to try and tear it down, pull it apart, belittle it and attack it. It is impossible to get you temperature temperature even know it will be the most glorious and pivotal moment in history.
I Agree

Just as bad as the false reformed teachings that denies a future literal human man that fulfills Daniel's (Little Horn) Paul's (Man Of Sin) John's (The Beast)

The afore mentioned false teaching removing the future evil human man leaving many unaware of his future arrival in deception

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Amen to that. And a vast majority of preterists (including partial preterists) that I have come across are obsessed with 70 AD and rarely, if ever, talk about the glorious return of Jesus Christ in the future and what He has in store for us at that time.
I Agree

The many partial preterist that falsely believe and teach that Matthew 24:15 Daniel's AOD and Matthew 24:21 the great tribulation has taken place already, some promoting 70AD

The afore mentioned events are "Future" that will culminate in the glorious second coming of Jesus in the heavens in fire and final judgement (The End)
 
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Just as bad as the false reformed teachings that denies a future literal human man that fulfills Daniel's (Little Horn) Paul's (Man Of Sin) John's (The Beast)

The afore mentioned false teaching removing the future evil human man leaving many unaware of his future arrival in deception

Jesus Is The Lord
You are fighting Scripture. You need to change your title. The truth will set you free.
 
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You are fighting Scripture. You need to change your title. The truth will set you free.
You have scripture wrong again, "Make You Free" not "Set You Free" Big Smiles!

Just as the false reformed teachings that denies a future literal human man that fulfills Daniel's (Little Horn) Paul's (Man Of Sin) John's (The Beast)

The afore mentioned false teaching removing the future evil human man, leaving many unaware of his future arrival, a teaching thats deception

Jesus Is The Lord

John 8:32KJV
32 And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.
 
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You have scripture wrong again, "Make You Free" not "Set You Free" Big Smiles!

Just as the false reformed teachings that denies a future literal human man that fulfills Daniel's (Little Horn) Paul's (Man Of Sin) John's (The Beast)

The afore mentioned false teaching removing the future evil human man, leaving many unaware of his future arrival, a teaching thats deception

Jesus Is The Lord

John 8:32KJV
32 And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.
I reject your small-god man-centered theology.
 

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I Agree

Just as bad as the false reformed teachings that denies a future literal human man that fulfills Daniel's (Little Horn) Paul's (Man Of Sin) John's (The Beast)

The afore mentioned false teaching removing the future evil human man leaving many unaware of his future arrival in deception

Jesus Is The Lord
You love the pope.

And he loves you. :laughing:
 
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