Daniels (Little Horn) Paul's (Man Of Sin) John's (The Beast) A Future Living Human Man Who Will Be Destroyed By The Lord Jesus At His Second Coming

[Truth7t7]

Ezekiel 39:21-29 is about Jesus having returned to this earth, and reflecting back over the past

Oh Sure, Big Smiles

 

[Jay Ross]

What ? In verse 21. And in verse 28, Jesus brings the Jews from among the nations into the land of Israel.

Ezekiel 39:21-29 is about Jesus having returned to this earth, and reflecting back over the past, and His gathering the Jews to land of Israel. The Jews (of Judaism) call that gathering - "the final redemption". They just don't believe that Jesus is going to do it. Matthew 24:31 is that gathering.


Ezekiel 39:21-29KJV
21 And I will set my glory among the heathen, and all the heathen shall see my judgment that I have executed, and my hand that I have laid upon them.
22 So the house of Israel shall know that I am the Lord their God from that day and forward.
23 And the heathen shall know that the house of Israel went into captivity for their iniquity: because they trespassed against me, therefore hid I my face from them, and gave them into the hand of their enemies: so fell they all by the sword.
24 According to their uncleanness and according to their transgressions have I done unto them, and hid my face from them.
25 Therefore thus saith the Lord God; Now will I bring again the captivity of Jacob, and have mercy upon the whole house of Israel, and will be jealous for my holy name;
26 After that they have borne their shame, and all their trespasses whereby they have trespassed against me, when they dwelt safely in their land, and none made them afraid.
27 When I have brought them again from the people, and gathered them out of their enemies' lands, and am sanctified in them in the sight of many nations;
28 Then shall they know that I am the Lord their God, which caused them to be led into captivity among the heathen: but I have gathered them unto their own land, and have left none of them any more there.
29 Neither will I hide my face any more from them: for I have poured out my spirit upon the house of Israel, saith the Lord God.

A better understanding of the quoted passage is: -



God foretold to Jacob that He would scatter his descendants to the four corners of the earth,



When the Hebrew text is translated correctly, the resulting outcome is very different to the outcome you want to happen.

Shalom

 

[Douggg]

A better understanding of the quoted passage is: -

Jay, what translation are you copying and pasting from, because it reads different than the kjv ?

kjv...
Ezekiel 39:28 Then shall they know that I am the LORD their God, which caused them to be led into captivity among the heathen: but I have gathered them unto their own land, and have left none of them any more there.

 

[Stumpmaster]

It's my opinion that Daniel's (Little Horn) Paul's (Man Of Sin) John's (The Beast) all represent the very same future human man that has a literal body that dies or is destroyed, this future individual human man is also referred to as (The Antichrist) by many as a catch all phrase for the 3 names

. . . and there will be considerable disagreement about whomever the man of sin really is until the great apostasy culminates in all the boxes being ticked.

2Th 2:3 Let no one deceive you by any means; for that Day will not come unless the falling away comes first, and the man of sin is revealed, the son of perdition,

 

[Jay Ross]

Jay, what translation are you copying and pasting from, because it reads different than the kjv ?

kjv...
Ezekiel 39:28 Then shall they know that I am the LORD their God, which caused them to be led into captivity among the heathen: but I have gathered them unto their own land, and have left none of them any more there.

There are many translations that differ from the KJV. The question you must answer for yourself is, "Is the KJV contextually, right?"

 

[Douggg]

There are many translations that differ from the KJV.

So which translation did you copy and paste from ?

 

[David Lamb]

Jay, what translation are you copying and pasting from, because it reads different than the kjv ?

kjv...
Ezekiel 39:28 Then shall they know that I am the LORD their God, which caused them to be led into captivity among the heathen: but I have gathered them unto their own land, and have left none of them any more there.

It looks like the New King James Version to me.

 

[Douggg]

It looks like the New King James Version to me.

David, I went to the Bible Hub site, and typed in Ezekiel 39:28. Ezekiel 39:28 - Israel to Be Restored

Here is what it has for the New King James Version (which is not the translation that Jay copied and pasted)....

New King James Version
then they shall know that I am the LORD their God, who sent them into captivity among the nations, but also brought them back to their land, and left none of them captive any longer.

 

[IndianaRob]

David, I went to the Bible Hub site, and typed in Ezekiel 39:28. Ezekiel 39:28 - Israel to Be Restored

Here is what it has for the New King James Version (which is not the translation that Jay copied and pasted)....

New King James Version
then they shall know that I am the LORD their God, who sent them into captivity among the nations, but also brought them back to their land, and left none of them captive any longer.

Douggg out of curiosity, when do you think God will or did pour out his spirit on the house of Israel?

Ezk 39:29 Neither will I hide my face any more from them: for I have poured out my spirit upon the house of Israel, saith the Lord GOD.

Peter quoting Joel says God poured out his spirit on all flesh, including the house of Israel, at Pentecost.

 

[David Lamb]

David, I went to the Bible Hub site, and typed in Ezekiel 39:28. Ezekiel 39:28 - Israel to Be Restored

Here is what it has for the New King James Version (which is not the translation that Jay copied and pasted)....

New King James Version
then they shall know that I am the LORD their God, who sent them into captivity among the nations, but also brought them back to their land, and left none of them captive any longer.

The only difference with that verse is that Jay (for some reason) replaced the word "land" with "soil/field." In the long passage he quotes, he seems to put the words that he has changed in bold. All the rest seems to match the NKJV. Perhaps he will settle the matter for us.

 

[Jay Ross]

It looks like the New King James Version to me.

David you are right. The only differences with the NKJV translation, I had quoted, are my corrections for how H:0127, which has the meaning of soil, has been wrongly translated as either earth or land in many of the translations. Translating H:0127 as either "earth" or "land" gives the wrong context for the translated Hebrew text where the embedded Hebrew Root word H:0127 is found.

Sadly, Dougggg is not able to understand that the KJV and also the NKJV, plus many other translations, have contextual errors in them.

I also quoted Genesis 28:13-15 which clearly foretold that God intended to scatter Jacob's descendants throughout the whole earth to be a blessing for all of the people who will live around them at that time, which is still in the future event that will happen, who would join them in taking root in God's fertile soil/field to develop an intimate relationship with God where they too will worship the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob as their God.

Jesus told the Parable of the Sower, who walked on a journey to His fertile soil to scatter his seed over God's fertile soil/field, to explain the future gathering of many nations to Himself, who will receive their inheritance from Him at the time of the Great Judgement of all of the peoples of the earth.

Jeremiah 31:31ff speaks of God renewing the Kingdom of Priests, a Holy Nation and His Possession among the Nations Covenant which He had originally established with the nation of Israel at Mt Sinai, but which they rejected while Moses was up on the Mountains speaking with God Face to Face.

Dougggg always askes this question of "what translation I have quoted" as a means of putting down what I might post, which questions his understanding of God's intended purposes for mankind.

God in Genesis 12:3 tells us this: -



Perhaps we today should look who we chose to draw our nourishment from?

Shalom

 

[Douggg]

David you are right. The only differences with the NKJV translation, I had quoted, are my corrections for how H:0127, which has the meaning of soil, has been wrongly translated as either earth or land in many of the translations. Translating H:0127 as either "earth" or "land" gives the wrong context for the translated Hebrew text where the embedded Hebrew Root word H:0127 is found.

You are changing the text of the NKJV, making up your own translation ? You dont even have the Strong's number correct. It is H127, not H0127.

Here is the Jews' translation of that verse (from the online Tanach at the Chabad. org site)....

Ezekiel 39:
28 And they will know that I am the Lord their God when I exile them to the nations, and I shall gather them to their land, and I shall no longer leave any of them there.

 

[Jay Ross]

You are changing the text of the NKJV, making up your own translation ? You dont even have the Strong's number correct. It is H127, not H0127.

Here is the Jews' translation of that verse (from the online Tanach at the Chabad. org site)....

Ezekiel 39:
28 And they will know that I am the Lord their God when I exile them to the nations, and I shall gather them to their land, and I shall no longer leave any of them there.

Thanks, Douggg for pointing out another translation that has wrongly translated H:0127.

As for getting the Strong's number wrong, yet you did understand what I had posted, therefore how I had presented the Strong Number was contextually correct, not like how the Hebrew Text with respect to words with the embedded Hebrew Root word H:0127 has been wrongly translated.

Goodbye Douggggggggggggie