Elijah shall come before Christ?

[Muna]

There is two raisings up here of Jesus Christ also, for example (I already posted Acts 3) but I will just highlight the relevant parts

Acts 3

[22] For Moses truly said unto the fathers, A prophet shall the Lord your God raise up unto you of your brethren, like unto me; him shall ye hear in all things whatsoever he shall say unto you.
[23] And it shall come to pass, that every soul, which will not hear that prophet, shall be destroyed from among the people.
[24] Yea, and all the prophets from Samuel and those that follow after, as many as have spoken, have likewise foretold of these days.
[25] Ye are the children of the prophets, and of the covenant which God made with our fathers, saying unto Abraham, And in thy seed shall all the kindreds of the earth be blessed.
[26] Unto you first God, having raised up his Son Jesus, sent him to bless you, in turning away every one of you from his iniquities.

So they affirm , A prophet shall the Lord your God raise up to you of your own brethren in Acts 3:22-23 and then in Acts 3:26 they equate this to Jesus sayin, Unto you first God, having raised up his Son Jesus.

But God also raised Jesus up again fulfilling the second psalm as they tell us here

Acts 13:33 God hath fulfilled the same unto us their children, in that he hath raised up Jesus again; as it is also written in the second psalm, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee.

So God (at the first) raised up unto them a prophet (The apostles showing us this was Jesus the Son of God) but then God also raised up Jesus again from the dead (which is where he is declared to be the Son of God with power by the resurrection of the dead) Romans 1:4, Psalm 2:7, Acts 13:33)

Seeing that also after Jesus was raised from the dead it says,
Luke 24 :44 And he said unto them,
These are the words which I spake unto you, while I was yet with you, that all things must be fulfilled, which were written in the law of Moses, and in the prophets, and in the psalms, concerning me.

I only included Moses and the Psalms, in the above, but not the prophets (Isaiah 53:1, 61:1 etc etc)

So raised up as a prophet unto them and raised up again from the dead, thats raised twice.

 

[Muna]

Am referring to the Israelites then, that they did not recognize Him as that Prophet Moses spoke about.

They were merely speaking that Jesus is one of the Prophet from the Old, based on the answer of the disciples.

Jesus did say this to them

John 5:46 For had ye believed Moses, ye would have believed me: for he wrote of me.
John 5:47 But if ye believe not his writings, how shall ye believe my words?

 

[Muna]

Apostles in the Book of Acts assuredly proclaimed that Jesus Christ is that Prophet, even to some Israelites in the Gospel, Moses mentioned about.

John the Baptist is also more than a Prophet, and for non of the Old Testament are greater than him according to Jesus. Could he be that Prophet?

No (personally) I do not believe John is THAT prophet but he was "a prophet" and more than a prophet as Jesus told us, because he is God sent, going before the Lord, being the prophet of the highest.

Not sure you were asking there or not

Therefore for assurance of readers, you participated in straightening the scripture and doctrine that Jesus Christ is that Prophet.

Thank you and now readers can be assured.

Folks can check it out themselves, this is just how I understand the verses according to how I have studied them, it seems correct to me.

It very well be neither here nor there with anyone else.

 

[Muna]

Got to hit the sack, talk to you tommorrow Lord willing ofcourse

 

[Fred J]

Got to hit the sack, talk to you tommorrow Lord willing ofcourse

Let me share with all of you how it should be said correctly by a believer scripturally, thank you.

First say, 'If the Lord Jesus will, we shall live, talk to you tomorrow or others.' (James 4:15/ Colossians 3:17)

Shalom in the name of Jesus Christ

 

[Davy]

Remember you said that.

I don't have to remember, because it is actually God's Word... which is how I know when to be bold in staying in God's written Word, and when not to.

2 Tim 2:15
15 Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.
KJV


You sound like you NEED a little taste of the REAL Word of God instead of the false allegorical interpretations of men you've latched onto...

Gal 1:9-10
9 As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.
10 For do I now persuade men, or God? or do I seek to please men? for if I yet pleased men, I should not be the servant of Christ.
KJV

It is a trait of the flesh, of men, to want to sound educated with SPIRITUALIZING The Word of God, as if they have some secret knowledge that they don't actually have. All that kind of working is to please men (and treat preaching as a business to make money).

Matt 13:52
52 Then said he unto them, "Therefore every scribe which is instructed unto the kingdom of heaven is like unto a man that is an householder, which bringeth forth out of his treasure things new and old."
KJV

Those servants of Christ that are instructed unto the kingdom of heaven bring forth what is ACTUALLY WRITTEN IN BOTH OLD AND NEW TESTAMENT BOOKS, and follow what the Scripture teaches, and not some fake spiritualized interpretation that makes the original Word of God unrecognizable.

Luke 12:42-43
42 And the Lord said, "Who then is that faithful and wise steward, whom his lord shall make ruler over his household, to give them their portion of meat in due season?
43 Blessed is that servant, whom his lord when he cometh shall find so doing."
KJV


Will a servant of Jesus Christ be blessed when He returns if He finds they have been a false steward pushing men's doctrines instead? NO!

1 Thess 5:14
14 Now we exhort you, brethren, warn them that are unruly, comfort the feebleminded, support the weak, be patient toward all men.
KJV

That idea of to warn means to rebuke, not lay down with putting up with false doctrines that deny the written Word of God.

2 Thess 3:6
6 Now we command you, brethren, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that ye withdraw yourselves from every brother that walketh disorderly, and not after the tradition which he received of us.
KJV

That above is simple, because it means if one does NOT keep to what The Bible actually says AS WRITTEN, then that means to walk disorderly. And the true Christian is to separate theirself from those kinds of disorderly persons who mistreat God's Word.

Rom 16:17
17 Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them.
KJV

There's a good reason for the existence of the IGNORE feature on true Christian Forums. It is a way to mark those who work contrary to the written Word of God, and avoid them.

2 Thess 3:14
14 And if any man obey not our word by this epistle, note that man, and have no company with him, that he may be ashamed.
KJV

The true Christian isn't even supposed to associate with those who deny the written Word of God. And just so no one is confused at my meaning, that means when God's Word teaches of a LITERAL EVENT, it does NOT mean to try and turn it upside down into some allegory or spiritualization with thus removing it from its written LITERAL FULFILLMENT AS ORIGINALLY INTENDED.

1 Tim 6:5
5 Perverse disputings of men of corrupt minds, and destitute of the truth, supposing that gain is godliness: from such withdraw thyself.
KJV

2 Tim 3:5
5 Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.
KJV

 

[Muna]

Let me share with all of you how it should be said correctly by a believer scripturally, thank you.

First say, 'If the Lord Jesus will, we shall live, talk to you tomorrow or others.' (James 4:15/ Colossians 3:17)

Shalom in the name of Jesus Christ

Heres another one you can add to that

1 Cr 16:5 Now I will come unto you, when I shall pass through Macedonia: for I do pass through Macedonia.
1 Cr 16:6 And it may be that I will abide, yea, and winter with you, that ye may bring me on my journey whithersoever I go.
1 Cr 16:7 For I will not see you now by the way; but I trust to tarry a while with you, if the Lord permit.

 

[Muna]

Got to hit the sack, talk to you tommorrow Lord willing ofcourse

Hebrews 6:3 And this will we do, if God permit.

There is another

 

[ScottA]

I don't have to remember, because it is actually God's Word... which is how I know when to be bold in staying in God's written Word, and when not to.

2 Tim 2:15
15 Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.
KJV


You sound like you NEED a little taste of the REAL Word of God instead of the false allegorical interpretations of men you've latched onto...

Gal 1:9-10
9 As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.
10 For do I now persuade men, or God? or do I seek to please men? for if I yet pleased men, I should not be the servant of Christ.
KJV

It is a trait of the flesh, of men, to want to sound educated with SPIRITUALIZING The Word of God, as if they have some secret knowledge that they don't actually have. All that kind of working is to please men (and treat preaching as a business to make money).

Matt 13:52
52 Then said he unto them, "Therefore every scribe which is instructed unto the kingdom of heaven is like unto a man that is an householder, which bringeth forth out of his treasure things new and old."
KJV

Those servants of Christ that are instructed unto the kingdom of heaven bring forth what is ACTUALLY WRITTEN IN BOTH OLD AND NEW TESTAMENT BOOKS, and follow what the Scripture teaches, and not some fake spiritualized interpretation that makes the original Word of God unrecognizable.

Luke 12:42-43
42 And the Lord said, "Who then is that faithful and wise steward, whom his lord shall make ruler over his household, to give them their portion of meat in due season?
43 Blessed is that servant, whom his lord when he cometh shall find so doing."
KJV


Will a servant of Jesus Christ be blessed when He returns if He finds they have been a false steward pushing men's doctrines instead? NO!

1 Thess 5:14
14 Now we exhort you, brethren, warn them that are unruly, comfort the feebleminded, support the weak, be patient toward all men.
KJV

That idea of to warn means to rebuke, not lay down with putting up with false doctrines that deny the written Word of God.

2 Thess 3:6
6 Now we command you, brethren, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that ye withdraw yourselves from every brother that walketh disorderly, and not after the tradition which he received of us.
KJV

That above is simple, because it means if one does NOT keep to what The Bible actually says AS WRITTEN, then that means to walk disorderly. And the true Christian is to separate theirself from those kinds of disorderly persons who mistreat God's Word.

Rom 16:17
17 Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them.
KJV

There's a good reason for the existence of the IGNORE feature on true Christian Forums. It is a way to mark those who work contrary to the written Word of God, and avoid them.

2 Thess 3:14
14 And if any man obey not our word by this epistle, note that man, and have no company with him, that he may be ashamed.
KJV

The true Christian isn't even supposed to associate with those who deny the written Word of God. And just so no one is confused at my meaning, that means when God's Word teaches of a LITERAL EVENT, it does NOT mean to try and turn it upside down into some allegory or spiritualization with thus removing it from its written LITERAL FULFILLMENT AS ORIGINALLY INTENDED.

1 Tim 6:5
5 Perverse disputings of men of corrupt minds, and destitute of the truth, supposing that gain is godliness: from such withdraw thyself.
KJV

2 Tim 3:5
5 Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.
KJV

You don't know what you have done (Luke 23:34). Remember this too, for these are the charges against you. "For with the same measure that you use, it will be measured back to you.”

 

[Davy]

You don't know what you have done (Luke 23:34). Remember this too, for these are the charges against you. "For with the same measure that you use, it will be measured back to you.”

You really ought to learn from the Scriptures I posted to you what I am saying, instead of your trying to put yourself in place of The Christ. My rebuke of your vain spiritualizing of His Word is in accordance with Apostle Paul's direction, and he was chosen by Lord Jesus. You might want to study more of Paul's Epistles without... spiritualizing, you might learn something.

 

[ScottA]

You really ought to learn from the Scriptures I posted to you what I am saying, instead of your trying to put yourself in place of The Christ. My rebuke of your vain spiritualizing of His Word is in accordance with Apostle Paul's direction, and he was chosen by Lord Jesus. You might want to study more of Paul's Epistles without... spiritualizing, you might learn something.

The scriptures you posted were for you--"the same measure that you use."

And your "vain spiritualizing" comments--are "blasphemous." What do the scriptures say about that?

 

[Fred J]

Heres another one you can add to that

1 Cr 16:5 Now I will come unto you, when I shall pass through Macedonia: for I do pass through Macedonia.
1 Cr 16:6 And it may be that I will abide, yea, and winter with you, that ye may bring me on my journey whithersoever I go.
1 Cr 16:7 For I will not see you now by the way; but I trust to tarry a while with you, if the Lord permit.

You are the 'church', where James epistle inspired by GOD is addressing to, and for you to 'abide'

And you're not the Apostles nor to 'imitate' them, but Christ and doctrine addressed to the church.

Hope there's no reason for competition but 'abide' by the 'truth'.

Shalom in the name of Jesus Christ

 

[Muna]

You are the 'church', where James epistle inspired by GOD is addressing to, and for you to 'abide'

And you're not the Apostles nor to 'imitate' them, but Christ and doctrine addressed to the church.

Hope there's no reason for competition but 'abide' by the 'truth'.

Shalom in the name of Jesus Christ

Right, so when I said,

Got to hit the sack, talk to you tommorrow Lord willing ofcourse

But you said to that,

Let me share with all of you how it should be said correctly by a believer scripturally, thank you.

First say, 'If the Lord Jesus will, we shall live, talk to you tomorrow or others.' (James 4:15/ Colossians 3:17)

When you know its said both ways, whether preceding or whether after, such as with Paul

But I will come to you shortly, if the Lord will 1Cr 4:19

 

[Fred J]

Right, so when I said,


But you said to that,

Let me share with all of you how it should be said correctly by a believer scripturally, thank you.

First say, 'If the Lord Jesus will, we shall live, talk to you tomorrow or others.' (James 4:15/ Colossians 3:17)

When you know its said both ways, whether preceding or whether after, such as with Paul

But I will come to you shortly, if the Lord will 1Cr 4:19

They are not the same, 'if the Lord will' spoken by an Apostle himself, and 'if the Lord will, we shall live' to be spoken by a believer in the church to another.

Am through with this, thank you