Rock Peter

[Marvelloustime]

And not a one of them Ever decked themselves up in fancy robes
giving themselves flattering titles such as MOST HOLY FATHER , MOST HOLY REVERAND .
Nor had men kissing their rings and kneeling before them .
FOR JESUS had told them , the servant is not greater than HIS LORD .
WHO is greater HE who sits at meat or he who serves .
AND YET I AM AMONGST YOU AS HE who serves .
Beware of men who wear long robes and desire to be seen of men and love flattering titles
and to be seen of men .
From peter to the other eleven , NOT A ONE would have supported
what I SEE being done in much of christendom .
Men have for years Sought not the welfare of this people
but rather the wealth of said people .
They lay up for themselves and not rich TOWARD GOD .
Crying TOUCH not GODS annointed , any time a sheep tries to expose their false leader .
and this people just sits blindly under such hirelings who have done naught
but to BLASPHEME that WORTHY NAME and have turned christendom into a business .
Not gonna bode well on the day of the LORD .

@amigo de christo

 

[amigo de christo]

the Pope accordingly is the "Vicar of Christ" or the replacement of Jesus Christ here on earth.

Them popes are in no way the replacement of JESUS CHRIST here on earth .
About the only thing they did replace WAS HIS DOCTRINE for their own doctrines .
And beleive me that is none that any dares to even folllow or hope in at all .

 

[DJT_47]

I stopped reading after you said Peter isn’t the first Pope. I’m a Jewish monotheist, not a Catholic. I even stated explicitly that Peter is not the first pope.

Jesus didn't call Peter a or the rock was my point, which was covered in my study paper.

 

[Behold]

I see no need to throw away identifying Peter as “rock”

As long as noone is trying to identify Peter as a POPE or as "THE ROCK" that Christ will build His Church upon.....

But the issue is, that 1.4 Billion Catholics worldwide, including all those on this FORUM.... believe that Jesus built His Church ON Peter........not on the actual revelation that Peter stated when He said that Jesus is the ""Son of God.""

Christians understand that the CHURCH is built on JESUS...........while Catholics say......"no, its bulit on PETER the ROCK".

So, we see how deceptive is the MaryCult.
They teach that Jesus is somehow less then Peter, by given Peter this FALSE Credit.

 

[amigo de christo]

As long as noone is trying to identify Peter as a POPE or as "THE ROCK" that Christ will build His Church upon.....

But the issue is, that 1.4 Billion Catholics worldwide, including all those on this FORUM.... believe that Jesus built His Church ON Peter........not on the actual revelation that Peter stated when He said that Jesus is the ""Son of God.""

Christians understand that the CHURCH is built on JESUS...........while Catholics say......"no, its bulit on PETER the ROCK".

So, we see how deceptive is the MaryCult.
They teach that Jesus is somehow less then Peter, by given Peter this FALSE Credit.

And why do you think they do that .
Even PETER HIMSELF would have rebuked so strongly every pope that ever sat that throne .
THEY bought the lie my friend .
Our church our way , but had no knowledge that is was but mans way for power and control .
Examine their popes against even peter , paul , james , jude
john . AGainst even JESUS himself . GUESS what you gonna see
THE SAME THING I DID . ITS ALL A DECEPTOIN of men for power and control . Cause he who controls
the peoples controls THE PURSE , the money bag friend . THEY all charlatons
I shall continue to expose every last one of them .
Aint no different than the junk joseph smith , or scores of others have tried .
And todays generation has not gotten any better , ITS GOT MUCH WORSE
as a sensual love of a powerful and strong delusion has come to merge the deceived under what they think is love
and is of GOD , as what they beleive is grace , IS the way , BUT IT DENIES THE WAY , HIS WORDS , THE TRUTH .
I WONT sit under a one of them .
Sad fact is most now love a lie , THEY DARN SURE DONT LOVE TRUTH
and that is real easily seen IN HOW THEY TREAT the Words of GOD , OF CHRIST and of the apostels .
LIke a giant game of twister has occured . THIS SHEEP dont play twister . THAT WILLL REAP the greatest
TWISTER , aka STORM DOWN UPON THEM ALL . sow to vainty , REAP THE WHIRLWIND . many gonna wail

 

[amigo de christo]

As long as noone is trying to identify Peter as a POPE or as "THE ROCK" that Christ will build His Church upon.....

But the issue is, that 1.4 Billion Catholics worldwide, including all those on this FORUM.... believe that Jesus built His Church ON Peter........not on the actual revelation that Peter stated when He said that Jesus is the ""Son of God.""

Christians understand that the CHURCH is built on JESUS...........while Catholics say......"no, its bulit on PETER the ROCK".

So, we see how deceptive is the MaryCult.
They teach that Jesus is somehow less then Peter, by given Peter this FALSE Credit.

Better not be smoking on the pipe of inclusivism either .
You do realize from whence it came ....
And why it came .
The unholy WHORE of all
has been doing this . And even since her beginning
she has done this in order to gain converts .
SO marvel not that she does this in the last hour . THAT WHORE can change her colors
to fit into any group she infiltrates .
WHAT most all do not realize is , THAT WHORE has infiltrated
Not only the false religoins
But every mainline denominatin , HECK EVEN the non mainline ones
THEY BELEIVE so long as someone identifies as catholic
THEY SAVED . You may not have known that . THESE jesuits , these sold out leaders ,
who do the work of THE WHORE truly beleive as do a child
THEY DO GODS WILL and that HIS WILL IS to get them into that church , that mindset .
WE BEEN DUPED friend . satan dont sleep , that which is of anti christ HAS GROWN
and most all now love it .

 

[amigo de christo]

As long as noone is trying to identify Peter as a POPE or as "THE ROCK" that Christ will build His Church upon.....

But the issue is, that 1.4 Billion Catholics worldwide, including all those on this FORUM.... believe that Jesus built His Church ON Peter........not on the actual revelation that Peter stated when He said that Jesus is the ""Son of God.""

Christians understand that the CHURCH is built on JESUS...........while Catholics say......"no, its bulit on PETER the ROCK".

So, we see how deceptive is the MaryCult.
They teach that Jesus is somehow less then Peter, by given Peter this FALSE Credit.

You said the one point four billion catholics ,
but failed to mention the untold number of many who are now catholic and have NO IDEA they are catholic .
NOW WE been duped bud . THAT WHORE always changes her appearance
in order to gain followers . SHE IS A WHORE , But many seem to love a whore these days .
Most all of even the protestant realm is now catholic in heart , THOUGH many may not even know it .
IF YA SITTING UNDER abraham peace accords , intefaith , all inclusive ,
bridge builders , alpha courses , seeeker friendly , co exist
And much more , YOU ALREADY SITTING UNDER THAT WHORE . MAY I SUGGEST STRONGLY we get our
rear ends BACK IN THE BIBLE and ASAP fast too .

 

[Marvelloustime]

You said the one point four billion catholics ,
but failed to mention the untold number of many who are now catholic and have NO IDEA they are catholic .
NOW WE been duped bud . THAT WHORE always changes her appearance
in order to gain followers . SHE IS A WHORE , But many seem to love a whore these days .
Most all of even the protestant realm is now catholic in heart , THOUGH many may not even know it .
IF YA SITTING UNDER abraham peace accords , intefaith , all inclusive ,
bridge builders , alpha courses , seeeker friendly , co exist
And much more , YOU ALREADY SITTING UNDER THAT WHORE . MAY I SUGGEST STRONGLY we get our
rear ends BACK IN THE BIBLE and ASAP fast too .

@amigo de christo

 

[Bladerunner]

Them popes are in no way the replacement of JESUS CHRIST here on earth .
About the only thing they did replace WAS HIS DOCTRINE for their own doctrines .
And beleive me that is none that any dares to even folllow or hope in at all .

I like you answer and agree with it. I simply post that was the title the Pope thinks He is.

 

[Bladerunner]

I tried not click on links, you have a quick summary of what you want me to look at?

It was just a one page link explaining the vicar of christ title with its history. nothing wrong with it...

 

[Muna]

It was just a one page link explaining the vicar of christ title with its history. nothing wrong with it...

I can just ask AI without clicking on anything.

Heres what come up

Vicar of Christ Explanation​

The title "Vicar of Christ" (Latin: Vicarius Christi) signifies the Pope's role as the earthly representative of Jesus Christ, exercising His authority over the Catholic Church. The term "vicar" originates from the Latin vicarius, meaning "substitute" or "one who acts in place of another". This concept is rooted in the belief that the Pope, as the successor of Saint Peter, carries out Christ's mission on earth, acting in His place.
The theological foundation for this title is drawn from two key biblical passages. The first is Matthew 16, where Jesus tells Peter, "You are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church," and gives him the "keys of the kingdom of heaven," symbolizing supreme authority. The second is John 21, where Jesus commands Peter, "Feed my lambs... Feed my sheep," establishing Peter as the guardian of Christ's flock and thus His vicar. This role is interpreted as Christ delegating His authority to Peter and his successors.

The historical development of the title is complex. While the concept of a representative of Christ is present in early Christian writings—such as St. Ignatius of Antioch's statement that a bishop "presides in the place of God" in the 2nd century —the specific term "Vicar of Christ" first appeared in the writings of Tertullian in the late 2nd and early 3rd centuries, where he referred to the Holy Spirit as Christ's vicar. The title was later used for the Pope, with early references appearing in the 5th century, notably in a synod referring to Pope Gelasius I. The title "Vicar of Peter" was commonly used in the early Church, reflecting the belief that the Pope ruled through Peter's authority from heaven. The title "Vicar of Christ" gradually became more prominent, replacing "Vicar of Peter" as the primary designation for the Pope, with consistent use beginning around the 12th century. Pope Innocent III (1198–1216) was instrumental in popularizing the title to emphasize the Pope's supreme authority over the Church.

The title is now officially recognized in the Catholic Church. The 2012 edition of the Annuario Pontificio lists "Vicar of Jesus Christ" as the second official title of the Pope, following "Bishop of Rome". The 2020 edition also included "Vicar of Christ" in the section on historical titles, acknowledging its significance in papal history. While the title is primarily associated with the Pope, the concept of a vicar extends to all bishops, who are described as "vicars and ambassadors of Christ" and govern their dioceses as Christ's vicar. It is important to note that the title does not imply the Pope is sinless or infallible in all matters, but rather that he holds supreme jurisdiction in the Church on earth.

Sound about right?

 

[dak]

Them popes are in no way the replacement of JESUS CHRIST here on earth .
About the only thing they did replace WAS HIS DOCTRINE for their own doctrines .
And beleive me that is none that any dares to even folllow or hope in at all .

So then, you are not a Trinitarian?
That's the most influential doctrine to have come forth from the womb of the RCC.

 

[Hiddenthings]

So then, you are not a Trinitarian?
That's the most influential doctrine to have come forth from the womb of the RCC.

And here's me thinking you were a Trinitarian - so hard to get a straight answer from you!

 

[dak]

And here's me thinking you were a Trinitarian - so hard to get a straight answer from you!

BOTH of the following responses were to you:

As for myself, I am an Adoptionist:

Can you see yet? Playing off-topic gotcha question games is not going to work. And, by the way, when you alert me to any thread outside the bottom five sections on the main page, I cannot answer them because I was honest and signed up as an "other", (non-Trinitarian), and don't have privileges to respond anywhere else.

Why should I have answered you the third time a couple of days ago when you did not hear the first two times? And you wonder why you are now essentially being ignored?

 

[Hiddenthings]

BOTH of the following responses were to you:

Interesting, I don’t believe I’ve ever spoken with an Adoptionist before.

Now you have the opportunity to teach me something completely new, something I’ve never considered. I’ve studied Paul’s use of the term and how it applies to the customs of the day and to those in Christ, but I’ve never examined it in relation to Christ himself.

Do you have any works or resources you could share with me, either here or privately, to read?

 

[dak]

Interesting, I don’t believe I’ve ever spoken with an Adoptionist before. Now you have the opportunity to teach me something completely new, something I’ve never considered. I’ve studied Paul’s use of the term and how it applies to the customs of the day and to those in Christ, but I’ve never examined it in relation to Christ himself. Do you have any works or resources you could share with me, either here or privately, to read?

Resources yes, go directly to "The Bible", the original source, as my understanding of Adoptionism did not come from men: but remember, a Bible that is copyrighted is the corrupted property of thieves and robbers using the Word of Elohim to make huge profits in the form of filthy lucre, all-seeing eye-of-horus greenbacks, etc., etc. So I suppose you'll need to start studying the original languages, (if you don't already), to find the correct understandings of the scripture by the Spirit of Elohim.

 

[Hiddenthings]

Resources yes, go directly to "The Bible", the original source, as my understanding of Adoptionism did not come from men: but remember, a Bible that is copyrighted is the corrupted property of thieves and robbers using the Word of Elohim to make huge profits in the form of filthy lucre, all-seeing eye-of-horus greenbacks, etc., etc. So I suppose you'll need to start studying the original languages, (if you don't already), to find the correct understandings of the scripture by the Spirit of Elohim.

Is this all you have on the subject?

Logos Logic

If anyone will, follow the simple systematic logic in the following emphatic statements of the Meshiah, and there is a reward to come for doing so, (once the relative consequences to doctrine are understood and carried out in the faithful one). First off: Point #1 The term ho logos in John...

www.christianityboard.com

 

[dak]

Is this all you have on the subject?

Logos Logic

If anyone will, follow the simple systematic logic in the following emphatic statements of the Meshiah, and there is a reward to come for doing so, (once the relative consequences to doctrine are understood and carried out in the faithful one). First off: Point #1 The term ho logos in John...

www.christianityboard.com

ALL of my posts, (including threads), are ultimately according to my understanding of the scripture: Adoptionism. Even John 1:1 is a can of worms that proves Trinitarianism preaches at least two Gods and it is proven by their own Greek grammar rules and in their own lexicons, (and I am probably not speaking about what you probably think I am). However that discussion would almost surely derail this thread. There is extremely much more.

 

[Bladerunner]

I can just ask AI without clicking on anything.

Heres what come up

Vicar of Christ Explanation​

The title "Vicar of Christ" (Latin: Vicarius Christi) signifies the Pope's role as the earthly representative of Jesus Christ, exercising His authority over the Catholic Church. The term "vicar" originates from the Latin vicarius, meaning "substitute" or "one who acts in place of another". This concept is rooted in the belief that the Pope, as the successor of Saint Peter, carries out Christ's mission on earth, acting in His place.
The theological foundation for this title is drawn from two key biblical passages. The first is Matthew 16, where Jesus tells Peter, "You are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church," and gives him the "keys of the kingdom of heaven," symbolizing supreme authority. The second is John 21, where Jesus commands Peter, "Feed my lambs... Feed my sheep," establishing Peter as the guardian of Christ's flock and thus His vicar. This role is interpreted as Christ delegating His authority to Peter and his successors.

The historical development of the title is complex. While the concept of a representative of Christ is present in early Christian writings—such as St. Ignatius of Antioch's statement that a bishop "presides in the place of God" in the 2nd century —the specific term "Vicar of Christ" first appeared in the writings of Tertullian in the late 2nd and early 3rd centuries, where he referred to the Holy Spirit as Christ's vicar. The title was later used for the Pope, with early references appearing in the 5th century, notably in a synod referring to Pope Gelasius I. The title "Vicar of Peter" was commonly used in the early Church, reflecting the belief that the Pope ruled through Peter's authority from heaven. The title "Vicar of Christ" gradually became more prominent, replacing "Vicar of Peter" as the primary designation for the Pope, with consistent use beginning around the 12th century. Pope Innocent III (1198–1216) was instrumental in popularizing the title to emphasize the Pope's supreme authority over the Church.

The title is now officially recognized in the Catholic Church. The 2012 edition of the Annuario Pontificio lists "Vicar of Jesus Christ" as the second official title of the Pope, following "Bishop of Rome". The 2020 edition also included "Vicar of Christ" in the section on historical titles, acknowledging its significance in papal history. While the title is primarily associated with the Pope, the concept of a vicar extends to all bishops, who are described as "vicars and ambassadors of Christ" and govern their dioceses as Christ's vicar. It is important to note that the title does not imply the Pope is sinless or infallible in all matters, but rather that he holds supreme jurisdiction in the Church on earth.

Sound about right?

be very careful of AI for AI very well could be the fluid the anti-christ will seduce and fool all who will accept what AI has to say even the 'mark of the beast.'

 

[Hiddenthings]

be very careful of AI for AI very well could be the fluid the anti-christ will seduce and fool all who will accept what AI has to say even the 'mark of the beast.'

Agree - everything needs to be fact checked.