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[Mat 1:18, 20 NKJV] 18 Now the birth of Jesus Christ was as follows: After His mother Mary was betrothed to Joseph, before they came together, she was found with child of the Holy Spirit. ... 20 But while he thought about these things, behold, an angel of the Lord appeared to him in a dream, saying, "Joseph, son of David, do not be afraid to take to you Mary your wife, for that which is conceived in her is of the Holy Spirit.

There must be a paternity suit, because the holy spirit is supposedly not the Father or the Father's spirit.
The physical pregnancy happened through the Holy Spirit. And?

Son existed before that. The gospel of John says it clearly on many places.
 
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It can be big. The godhood of the final messiah is limited when he was woken by YHWH from the dead. Jesus is still an example, but I think of him in deistic ways. And I know the Trinity Doctrine to be a poor shibboleth.

Simply put. I believe that both Christianity and Rabbinic Judaism don't have the entire truth.
You probably already believe the lie . For starters all other religoins are false and not of GOD and have not the TRUTH .
In fact not even all the jews , who though torah was inspired of GOD , even know the TRUTH .
As do many gentiles now walk also in darkness .
JESUS CHRIST IS THE TRUTH . His every Word is Truth .
Satan is slick . All other religoins , as does even humanisim , can only appear to have truths and YET THEY HAVE NOT THE TRUTH .
Buddism , is of satan as is every other religoin .
There is only ONE GOD and ONLY ONE WAY TO THIS GOD . HIS NAME JESUS THE CHRIST
and if one beleives NOT in HIM , that HE IS THE CHRIST , there is NO TRUTH IN THEM
IN fact they call GOD a liar . A liar .
Do not be as the growing number of those who beleive the lie .
 

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The physical pregnancy happened through the Holy Spirit. And?

Son existed before that. The gospel of John says it clearly on many places.
Even JESUS confirms this . He existed before even the world was ........
And its a high possiblity that even that king who had thrown those three men into the fire
saw him .
Did we not cast three into the fire , there is a fourth and his appearance is as the SON OF GOD .
Many cannot grasp and have no desire to grasp the TRUTH .
That in the Beginning was THE WORD and that the WORD was WITH GOD and that the Word was God .
The WORD simply took on flesh . For our sakes . HE came to do what no man could .
To restore us , reconcile us , back to GOD .
To save us . To fullfill that which man did not and could not . THEN took on and bare our infirmities
Paid the price
so that all who do BELEIVE would be saved . But let us beware and let us be on guard
for there are many even within Christendom, and more so as every day passes , that no longer BELEIVE
one must BELIEVE on HIM to be saved .
They are in love with a lie that has made the road and the path to GOD very broad , sin accepting , even UNBELEIF IN CHRIST
accepting . THAT THERE ROAD WILL NEVER LEAD THEM TO GOD , IT has led them to the wrong god
who has come in its own name in order to seduce them all right to the lie and to perdition . IT is a liar .
But it knows how to make its lies seem loving and caring and good for humanity . BUT IT SPEAKS DEATH
and desires ONLY the death and destruction of humanity . SO IT preaches a love
a wide broad road , THAT HAS DENIED THE SON , HAS DENIED THE FATHER , even calls good evil and evil good ,
That by means of that love and that tolerance HAS LED THEM INTO GREAT rebellion and hatred
against THE GOD , HIS CHRIST as they cast EVEN HIS WORDS behind them . IT is a liar and the father of lies
and it has a whore who does its bidding and many drink of her cup of fornication , beleiving its love . WHEN IT AINT LOVE
IT AINT OF GOD . ITs known as A DELUSION and its a strong one too
SEEING it preaches this common ground love that is able to merge much of even christendom
WITH the false religoins , with the idea that we all serve the same GOD .
BUT ITS this other god it serves , NOT GOD . Beware of the cup of the harlot
and of that which is of anti christ , for she will make it seem as a cup by which its love will usher in upon them
World peace n safety . BUT THERE WILL BE no peace n safety unto those who drink of its cup .
THERE will be no peace unto the wicked . ONLY SUDDEN destruction BY and FROM THE HOLY GOD and HIS CHRIST
upon WHOM ITS LOVE and peace plan DID DENY . anti christ brings such peace, NOT GOD . and many now
buy into this false love and this false peace and find common ground WITH DARKNESS .
But what common ground DOES LIGHT have WITH DARKNESS . NONE . we must simply preach and point to CHRIST
and all biblical sound Doctrine .
 

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The physical pregnancy happened through the Holy Spirit. And?

Son existed before that. The gospel of John says it clearly on many places.
WHO said this .
The GLORY which I HAD with THEE before THE WORLD was . JESUS SAID THIS .
OH he was before even abraham or even adam was . And by HIM were all things created that are and were created .
 

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[Mat 1:18, 20 NKJV] 18 Now the birth of Jesus Christ was as follows: After His mother Mary was betrothed to Joseph, before they came together, she was found with child of the Holy Spirit. ... 20 But while he thought about these things, behold, an angel of the Lord appeared to him in a dream, saying, "Joseph, son of David, do not be afraid to take to you Mary your wife, for that which is conceived in her is of the Holy Spirit.

There must be a paternity suit, because the holy spirit is supposedly not the Father or the Father's spirit.
Think
 
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I understand and by grace i do understand why you told this person TO THINK .
But friend
Muhammed himself thought often
joseph smith thought often
The RCC and its leaders thought often .
Budda thought often .
NOW tell me what is the one thing they all had in common .
well its two things really . THEY were void of the TRUTH
and it was their carnal mind alone that led them .
This fellow is no different .
What can be seen by a sheep
And i mean even the very simple
Cannot be seen by the carnal mind . IT WAS NEVER the carnal mind that led us to GOD or to Christ
What that person needs
is an all out exodus out of the realm OF HIS CARNAL MIND .
but only ONE WAY can that be done .
And it darn sure aint by the carnal mind . HE is inclusivian my friend . as are many now .
I know i say that word a lot and i also know
that many that are already inflenced by INCLUSIVISM dont even realize THEY ARE OF IT .
Ye shall know them by how they treat the bible , treat the words of GOD
treat the GOD INSPIRED words of even the apostels .
I know i sound like a tape recorder constantly pleading and begging for all to do a RETURN to that bible for themselves .
TO learn OF THAT GOD and OF HIS CHRIST for themselves .
BUT BELEIVE YOU ME THERE IS DARN GOOD REASON I DO AS I DO . I wont budge david .
I wont budge . AND IT has cost me much for not budging and conforming .
BUT I am telling us all its TIME FOR AN ALL out exodus from these tainted denominations and THIS so called RCC
THEY FLEECING DAVID . THEY FLEECING US . WE have GOT TO GET back into the BIBLE NOW . to learn
for ourselves . GOD has the sheep david . HE has THE SHEEP and you can bet
THEY AINT GONNA Trod ANY PART of HIS WORDS under foot . IT IS BIBLE TIME . IT IS .
 

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always remember its not a sin , or non loving to rebuke and to correct any and all sin and error and false doctrine .
Nor is it a sin to even name the name of the false ones .
If you disagree with that man , as I KNOW I DO , you gots to expose his error .
WE aint here for hugs and getting along . We here for one reason .
ONE reason .
We should have LOVED GOD , CHRIST , HIS WORDS of TRUTH
and put HIM FIRST
and anything that is in any way , shape , form or fashion that is contrary to HIS WORDS and TO HIM
MUST be exposed , as should any false teacher . AS SHOULD ANY false church too .
Naming names and identifying what is sin and what is false and who is false and what is dangerous
IS A GOOD THING . you always remember that .
WE aint in the business of pleasing man , For what is often pleasing to man IS an abomination to GOD .
WE OWE HIM everything . WE aim TO PLEASE HIM and not man . And as a result
WE LOVE hiS WORDS , we use HIS WORDS to expose anything false . WHICH also works to the good
of the church .