Question for Premils (Amils welcome to answer): How many times are the dead judged?

  • Welcome to Christian Forums, a Christian Forum that recognizes that all Christians are a work in progress.

    You will need to register to be able to join in fellowship with Christians all over the world.

    We hope to see you as a part of our community soon and God Bless!

Davidpt

Well-Known Member
Dec 6, 2023
2,512
797
113
68
East Texas
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
@Davidpt, where did you get the idea that Mary "is the most exalted of all creatures," if you are anti-Catholic? It seems to me that their beliefs and tradition about Mary have rubbed off on you, since you make that comment. What Bible verses say that she is?

If Mary is "a perfect example of faith," are you saying, like the Catholics, that she has been immaculately conceived? Again, where do you find that teaching in the Bible?

I would ask you the same question about her having a "maternal role in heaven" and being "the Mother of the Church." I strongly disagree with that belief.

Those beliefs are the primary reason that I could never join the Catholic Church. They have an added tradition from the Popes' pronouncements that is separate from the Bible's teachings. I believe that the Bible is the sole authority for our Christian lives and beliefs, because it alone is inspired by God:

2Timothy 3:16 All Scripture is breathed out by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, and for training in righteousness,
2Timothy 3:17 that the man of God may be complete, equipped for every good work.

Did you not read my post carefully first?

First I said this--- I'm basically saying that God used Mary as a means to create the human body of Jesus. Therefore, Mary shared in the creating of His body since his body was created inside of her. But not to be conflated with that of the following, meaning what I ended up pasting at the end.

Then I pasted at the end of that post what Catholics believe that I do not agree with.

Therefore, since I said this first---But not to be conflated with that of the following--meaning what I ended up pasting at the end of that post before I edited it moments ago--it would make no sense for me to say that then not even submit what I was meaning to not conflate with. I was meaning what I submitted at the end pertaining to Mary's Special Status: But not how I view that, how Catholics view that. The point I was trying to make to begin with is this, I didn't want to give anyone the impression that I was putting Mary on a pedestal the way Catholics do just because I mentioned she had part in the creating process. But that is not to be conflated with how Catholics view that, thus Mary's Special Status:

Trust me, it's just a misunderstanding on your part in regards to what I wrote and meant. Hopefully this clears the misunderstanding up.

Edited to add: I'm going to edit that post in question, hopefully to make it clearer.
 
Last edited:

IndianaRob

Well-Known Member
Aug 7, 2023
1,937
694
113
55
Louisville
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
Yes, but if you look at the Greek, the word is ginomai, which means became. Not made.

John 1:14 interlinear Bible

@IndianaRob I think what the KJV translators were trying to convey when it was first translated from the Greek was that the Greek means that the Word was made to be flesh (became flesh)

- and maybe in that old English world, that is what they who read it would have understood by the word.
I think we both see it the same way.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Zao is life

Earburner

Well-Known Member
Feb 2, 2019
8,426
1,968
113
76
South Carolina
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
Gender
Male
In both Daniel 7:10 and Revelation 20:12 the books are opened. In Daniel 7:10 the judgment is set and the books are opened, while in Revelation 20:12 people are judged out of what is written in the books.

Are you saying these are both the same event and happened at the cross, or do you see the books being opened more than once?
Literally, Jesus Himself is the Book of Life, as He also is the Tree of Life, and the Living Waters as well. So then, as there are no literal books in Heaven, we must conclude how it is that our names are written in Heaven. Luke 10:20; Heb. 12:23.
"To be in Jesus is to be in the kingdom of Heaven, to be in the kingdom of Heaven is to be in Jesus".
Quite literally, Jesus is our New Heaven.


For the other half, I am sure that you can perceive by the Holy Spirit the true nature about the New Earth wherein God and His Righteousness does dwell.
See 2 Cor. 4:7; Gen. 2:7.
 
Last edited:

IndianaRob

Well-Known Member
Aug 7, 2023
1,937
694
113
55
Louisville
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
Hey, IndianaRob, you should understand 'prepared' in that verse in the same way as, oh, "dressed or," or "made ready for," or even "sent for the purpose of," rather than anything along the lines of "created." The writer of Hebrews, in 10:5-7, is quoting and referring directly to Psalm 40:6-8. Jesus, of course, as you know, is the Lamb of God, Who, according to God's will, of course, accomplished our redemption by His sacrifice on the cross. David is really who the writer of Hebrews is quoting there, and David acknowledged, in his praise and worship of God, that God was never pleased with sacrifices and offerings, and prepared Jesus to be the true sacrifice for him (David), and likewise for all of us. You see?

Grace and peace to you.
Jesus is not a created being but his body came from somewhere. If God didn’t make the body for Jesus, then where did it come from?
 

Earburner

Well-Known Member
Feb 2, 2019
8,426
1,968
113
76
South Carolina
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
Gender
Male
Jesus is not a created being but his body came from somewhere. If God didn’t make the body for Jesus, then where did it come from?
Heb. 10
[5] Wherefore when he cometh into the world, he saith, Sacrifice and offering thou wouldest not, but a body [of mortal flesh] hast thou prepared me:
 
  • Like
Reactions: IndianaRob

grafted branch

Well-Known Member
Dec 11, 2023
1,976
333
83
49
Washington
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
Literally, Jesus Himself is the Book of Life, as He also is the Tree of Life, and the Living Waters as well. So then, as there are no literal books in Heaven, we must conclude how it is that our names are written in Heaven. Luke 10:20; Heb. 12:23.
"To be in Jesus is to be in the kingdom of Heaven, to be in the kingdom of Heaven is to be in Jesus".
Quite literally, Jesus is our New Heaven.


For the other half, I am sure that you can perceive by the Holy Spirit the true nature about the New Earth wherein God and His Righteousness does dwell.
See 2 Cor. 4:7; Gen. 2:7.
Isaiah 62:4 Thou shalt no more be termed Forsaken; neither shall thy land any more be termed Desolate: but thou shalt be called Hephzibah, and thy land Beulah: for the LORD delighteth in thee, and thy land shall be married.

What are your thoughts on the land being married? You said “the New Earth wherein God and His Righteousness does dwell”, does the New Earth = the land being married? And can we go one step further and say New Earth = New Jerusalem since it is as a bride in Revelation 21:2? I wouldn’t think He would be married to two different brides.

What do you think?
 

Zao is life

Well-Known Member
Oct 3, 2020
5,244
1,863
113
Africa
Faith
Christian
Country
South Africa
Gender
Male
@Zao is life, that KJV translation, which is also in a Creed, is one of the few times that the translators got it wrong, because there are two almost-identical participles in Greek, one of which means "born" or "begotten" (in the older English), while the other one means "unique." Again, it's a rare instance in which the more recent translations get it right, usually with the words "one and only Son."

When the Holy Spirit creates Jesus, the second Person of God, often said to be the "Angel of the LORD" in the Old Testament, I believe, who is one of the Persons of the three in the one God, enters her womb and joins with a sinless, human body. He is fully human, enabling him to die, and fully God, all as Jesus, so that he is able to rise from the dead.

The four gospels testify to Jesus' death and to his resurrection, certified by many eyewitnesses who have been willing to suffer and die for the truth of their testimonies.

The process of Christ's creation is a mystery, because the Bible doesn't say, but we know the result.
It's not a "creation" at all according to the language, Bruce.

Now the Word became [1096 ginomai] flesh and took up residence [4637 skenoo] among us. We saw his glory - the glory of the one and only [3439 monogenes], full of grace and truth, who came from the Father. (John 1:14 [NETfree])

monogenes:
mono: One only. One and only. One of its kind.

monogenes:
from 3441 and 1096; only-born, i.e. sole:--only (begotten, child).
see GREEK for 3441
see GREEK for 1096

3441
μόνος movnos monos {mon'-os}
probably from 3306; remaining, i.e. sole or single; by implication, mere:--alone, only, by themselves.

1096 (the Word became 1096 flesh)
γίνομαι givnomai ginomai {ghin'-om-ahee}
a prolongation and middle voice form of a primary verb; to cause to be ("gen"-erate), i.e. (reflexively) to become (come into being), used with great latitude (literal, figurative, intensive, etc.):--arise, be assembled, be(-come, -fall, -have self), be brought (to pass), (be) come (to pass), continue, be divided, draw, be ended, fall, be finished, follow, be found, be fulfilled, + God forbid, grow, happen, have, be kept, be made, be married, be ordained to be, partake, pass, be performed, be published, require, seem, be showed, X soon as it was, sound, be taken, be turned, use, wax, will, would, be wrought.

He dwelt [4637 skenoo] among us. The NETfree Bible notes says this about the word:

-- QUOTE The Greek word translated took up residence (σκηνόω, skhnow) alludes to the OT tabernacle, where the Shekinah, the visible glory of God's presence, resided. The author is suggesting that this glory can now be seen in Jesus (note the following verse). The verb used here may imply that the Shekinah glory that once was found in the tabernacle has taken up residence in the person of Jesus. Cf. also John 2:19-21: --

"Jesus answered and said unto them, Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up. Then said the Jews, Forty and six years was this temple in building, and wilt thou rear it up in three days? But he spake of the temple of his body." [KJV]

The NETfree Bible note continues:

-- The Word became flesh. This verse constitutes the most concise statement of the incarnation in the New Testament. John 1:1 makes it clear that the Logos was fully God, but 1:14 makes it clear that he was also fully human. A Docetic interpretation is completely ruled out. Here for the first time the Logos of 1:1 is identified as Jesus of Nazareth - the two are one and the same. Thus this is the last time the word logos is used in the Fourth Gospel to refer to the second person of the Trinity. From here on it is Jesus of Nazareth who is the focus of John's Gospel. -- END QUOTE
Docetism: The doctrine of the Docetes, that Jesus only appeared to have a physical body and was ultimately of celestial substance.

Copy @IndianaRob
 
Last edited:

Zao is life

Well-Known Member
Oct 3, 2020
5,244
1,863
113
Africa
Faith
Christian
Country
South Africa
Gender
Male
Jesus is not a created being but his body came from somewhere. If God didn’t make the body for Jesus, then where did it come from?
DNA consists of atoms, which already existed. Atoms are part of God's creation which had already been created.

"For verily he took not on him [1949 epilambanomai] the nature of angels; but he took on him [1949 epilambanomai] the seed of Abraham." (Hebrews 2:16 [KJV])

1949 ἐπιλαμβάνομαι ejpilambavnomai epilambanomai
middle voice from 1909 and 2983; to seize (for help, injury, attainment, or any other purpose; literally or figuratively):--catch, lay hold (up-)on, take (by, hold of, on).

It's telling us that The Word of God in whom is (eternal) life (John 1:4) became clothed with, tabernacled in, creation - which He had already created - clothed with, tabernacled in a human body. He Himself had first created all things and then He took what had already been created on Himself.

"For verily he took not on him [1949 epilambanomai] the nature of angels; but he took on him [1949 epilambanomai] the seed of Abraham." (Hebrews 2:16 [KJV])

How was He created when He took what He had already created on Himself?

God became manifest in the flesh.​
 
Last edited:
  • Like
Reactions: Earburner

Earburner

Well-Known Member
Feb 2, 2019
8,426
1,968
113
76
South Carolina
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
Gender
Male
Isaiah 62:4 Thou shalt no more be termed Forsaken; neither shall thy land any more be termed Desolate: but thou shalt be called Hephzibah, and thy land Beulah: for the LORD delighteth in thee, and thy land shall be married.

What are your thoughts on the land being married? You said “the New Earth wherein God and His Righteousness does dwell”, does the New Earth = the land being married? And can we go one step further and say New Earth = New Jerusalem since it is as a bride in Revelation 21:2? I wouldn’t think He would be married to two different brides.

What do you think?
Isa. 62:4 is the ideal scripture to describe not what the New Earth is, but rather who the New Earth is, wherein dwelleth God's Righteousness.
Another clue:
not only are we each the earthen vessels of God's dwelling place, but also we are called His New creatures of New Jerusalem.

Edit: so then, what I am saying here is that no one seems to understand that Jesus is our New Heaven, and we each ourselves, collectively, ARE God's New Earth, the very dwelling place of His Righteousness.
 
Last edited:
  • Like
Reactions: grafted branch

Earburner

Well-Known Member
Feb 2, 2019
8,426
1,968
113
76
South Carolina
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
Gender
Male
DNA consists of atoms, which already existed. Atoms are part of God's creation which had already been created.

"For verily he took not on him [1949 epilambanomai] the nature of angels; but he took on him [1949 epilambanomai] the seed of Abraham." (Hebrews 2:16 [KJV])

1949 ἐπιλαμβάνομαι ejpilambavnomai epilambanomai
middle voice from 1909 and 2983; to seize (for help, injury, attainment, or any other purpose; literally or figuratively):--catch, lay hold (up-)on, take (by, hold of, on).

It's telling us that The Word of God in whom is (eternal) life (John 1:4) became clothed with, tabernacled in, creation - which He had already created - clothed with, tabernacled in a human body. He Himself had first created all things and then He took what had already been created on Himself.

"For verily he took not on him [1949 epilambanomai] the nature of angels; but he took on him [1949 epilambanomai] the seed of Abraham." (Hebrews 2:16 [KJV])

How was He created when He took what He had already created on Himself?

God became manifest in the flesh.​

Jesus, who was perfect and without sin, was not of or in our sinful flesh, but rather he was in the likeness of our sinful flesh, being without sin.​

Rom.8

  1. [3] For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh:

Phil.2

  1. [7] But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men:
 
Last edited:

Zao is life

Well-Known Member
Oct 3, 2020
5,244
1,863
113
Africa
Faith
Christian
Country
South Africa
Gender
Male
GOING BACK FOR A MINUTE TO "HOW MANY TIMES ARE THE DEAD JUDGED?"

Another scripture to consider


1 Corinthians 15:21-24a
"For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead. For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive. But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ’s at his coming.

Then .. "

1534 εἶτα εἶτεν ei\\ta ei\\ten eita {i'-tah}
of uncertain affinity; a particle of succession (in time or logical enumeration), then, moreover:--after that(-ward), furthermore, then. See also 1899.

Used in the following verses:-

Mark 4:17:
And have no root in themselves, and so endure but for a time: afterward [1534 eita], when affliction or persecution ariseth for the word’s sake, immediately they are offended.

Mark 4:28:
For the earth bringeth forth fruit of herself; first the blade, then [1534 eita] the ear, after that the full corn in the ear.

Mark 8:25:
After that [1534 eita] he put his hands again upon his eyes, and made him look up: and he was restored, and saw every man clearly.

John 13:5:
After that [1534 eita] he poureth water into a bason, and began to wash the disciples’ feet, and to wipe them with the towel wherewith he was girded.

John 19:27:
Then [1534 eita] saith he to the disciple, Behold thy mother! And from that hour that disciple took her unto his own home.

John 20:27:
Then [1534 eita] saith he to Thomas, Reach hither thy finger, and behold my hands; and reach hither thy hand, and thrust it into my side: and be not faithless, but believing.

I Timothy 3:10:
And let these also first be proved; then [1534 eita] let them use the office of a deacon, being found blameless.

I Corinthians 12:28:
And God hath set some in the church, first apostles, secondarily prophets, thirdly teachers, after that miracles [1534 eita], then gifts of healings, helps, governments, diversities of tongues.

I Corinthians 15:5:
And that he was seen of Cephas, then [1534 eita] of the twelve:

I Corinthians 15:7:
After [1534 eita] that, he was seen of James; then of all the apostles.

I Timothy 2:13:
For Adam was first formed, then [1534 eita] Eve.

James 1:14-15:
But every man is tempted, when he is drawn away of his own lust, and enticed. Then [1534 eita] when lust hath conceived, it bringeth forth sin: and sin, when it is finished, bringeth forth death.

So the word "then" [1534 eita] in 1 Corinthians 15:24 does not necessarily mean "immediately after" or "at the same time as".

1 Corinthians 15:21-28 [KJV]
"For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead. For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive. But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ’s at his coming.

Then
[1534 eita] cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power.

For he must reign, till he hath put all enemies under his feet. The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death.

For he hath put all things under his feet. But when he saith all things are put under him, it is manifest that he is excepted, which did put all things under him. And when [3752 hotan] all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all."

3752 ὅταν o&tan hotan {hot'-an}

from 3753 and 302; whenever (implying hypothesis or more or less uncertainty); also causatively (conjunctionally) inasmuch as:--as long (soon) as, that, + till, when(-soever), while.​
 
Last edited:

Zao is life

Well-Known Member
Oct 3, 2020
5,244
1,863
113
Africa
Faith
Christian
Country
South Africa
Gender
Male
Isa. 62:4 is the ideal scripture to describe not what the New Earth is, but rather who the New Earth is, wherein dwelleth God's Righteousness.
Another clue:
not only are we each the earthen vessels of God's dwelling place, but also we are called His New creatures of New Jerusalem.
It is because it has already been bought, but it is not yet fully seen that we live in hope for that which we do not yet see - the regeneration of all things when Christ returns, and the resurrection of our bodies from the dead as part of that regeneration - which is when Christ will make all things new.

Until everyone is resurrected and immortal, what has already been bought (and has already come in part) is not fully here yet.

And it was bought by the blood of Christ and will come through His resurrection.
 
Last edited:

Zao is life

Well-Known Member
Oct 3, 2020
5,244
1,863
113
Africa
Faith
Christian
Country
South Africa
Gender
Male

Jesus, who was perfect and without sin, was not of or in our sinful flesh, but rather he was in the likeness of our sinful flesh, being without sin.​

Rom.8

  1. [3] For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh:

Phil.2

  1. [7] But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men:
He was in human flesh but He Himself was not sinful therefore His flesh was the likeness of sinful flesh, but He was not sinful.
 
Last edited:

Earburner

Well-Known Member
Feb 2, 2019
8,426
1,968
113
76
South Carolina
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
Gender
Male
He was in human flesh but He Himself was not sinful therefore His flesh was the likeness of sinful flesh, but He was not sinful.
Yes, we both are saying the same thing as the Holy Spirit within us attests to that fact.
Jesus was not a different, new type of mortal flesh, but rather was the same as our flesh, except without sin.

Even though by faith in the blood of Christ, we are made to be 100% sin-less,
none of us who are born "from beneath" know what it's like to be 100% sin-free.
In other words, while we all dwell in this mortal flesh, none of us are ever 100% free of sin, whereas Jesus Himself, BEFORE His crucifixion, WAS BOTH 100% sin-LESS and 100% sin-FREE.
 
Last edited:
  • Like
Reactions: Zao is life

PinSeeker

Well-Known Member
Oct 4, 2021
4,274
1,029
113
Nashville
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
Gender
Male
Jesus is not a created being but his body came from somewhere.
Well yeah.... LOL! I agree... <chuckles> But He existed with the Father and the Spirit from all eternity. I mean I think you agree with that...

If God didn’t make the body for Jesus, then where did it come from?
Well, Luke 2 is a good place to find that out... <smile> Like all of us humans, God "knitted Him together in His mother's womb" (poetically speaking), as David says of himself in Psalm 139:13... But again... well, another bit of Scripture concerning Jesus comes to mind here: "...though He was in the form of God, did not count equality with God a thing to be grasped, but emptied himself, by taking the form of a servant, being born in the likeness of men" (Philippians 2:6-7).

Grace and peace to you.
 
  • Like
Reactions: IndianaRob

IndianaRob

Well-Known Member
Aug 7, 2023
1,937
694
113
55
Louisville
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
Well yeah.... LOL! I agree... <chuckles> But He existed with the Father and the Spirit from all eternity. I mean I think you agree with that...


Well, Luke 2 is a good place to find that out... <smile> Like all of us humans, God "knitted Him together in His mother's womb" (poetically speaking), as David says of himself in Psalm 139:13... But again... well, another bit of Scripture concerning Jesus comes to mind here: "...though He was in the form of God, did not count equality with God a thing to be grasped, but emptied himself, by taking the form of a servant, being born in the likeness of men" (Philippians 2:6-7).

Grace and peace to you.
This covers a little more about the body of Jesus.

Psa 139:13 For thou hast possessed my reins: thou hast covered me in my mother's womb.

Psa 139:14 I will praise thee; for I am fearfully and wonderfully made: marvellous are thy works; and that my soul knoweth right well.

Psa 139:15 My substance was not hid from thee, when I was made in secret, and curiously wrought in the lowest parts of the earth.

Psa 139:16 Thine eyes did see my substance, yet being unperfect; and in thy book all my members were written, which in continuance were fashioned, when as yet there was none of them.
 

Davidpt

Well-Known Member
Dec 6, 2023
2,512
797
113
68
East Texas
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
Literally, Jesus Himself is the Book of Life, as He also is the Tree of Life, and the Living Waters as well. So then, as there are no literal books in Heaven, we must conclude how it is that our names are written in Heaven. Luke 10:20; Heb. 12:23.
"To be in Jesus is to be in the kingdom of Heaven, to be in the kingdom of Heaven is to be in Jesus".
Quite literally, Jesus is our New Heaven.


For the other half, I am sure that you can perceive by the Holy Spirit the true nature about the New Earth wherein God and His Righteousness does dwell.
See 2 Cor. 4:7; Gen. 2:7.

Revelation 20:12 And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.

To remain consistent, thus not be cherry picking, if the book of life is a person rather that a real book of records of some kind, then so must these other books that are opened, be a person or persons as well. What person or persons are these other books that are opened referring to? Is Jesus literally them as well? Or are they meaning some other person or persons?
 

Earburner

Well-Known Member
Feb 2, 2019
8,426
1,968
113
76
South Carolina
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
Gender
Male
Revelation 20:12 And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.

To remain consistent, thus not be cherry picking, if the book of life is a person rather that a real book of records of some kind, then so must these other books that are opened, be a person or persons as well. What person or persons are these other books that are opened referring to? Is Jesus literally them as well? Or are they meaning some other person or persons?
The term "names written in a book" or "names written in the books" is figurative of God having a "Remembrance" of all who have lived. Malachi 3:16-18.

Heaven is the realm of God, who is also Jesus. There are those who are literally in the realm of Jesus' Being ( Luke 23:43; Rev. 2:7). However, because of unbelief, there are those who are not in the realm of His Being. Therefore all of such remain as being "condemned already" for eternal destruction. John 3:18.
 
Last edited:

Zao is life

Well-Known Member
Oct 3, 2020
5,244
1,863
113
Africa
Faith
Christian
Country
South Africa
Gender
Male
Something more to consider regarding the question posed by this thread when comparing scripture with scripture:

Revelation 18
18 And the nations were angry, and thy wrath is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be judged, and that thou shouldest give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; and shouldest destroy them which destroy the earth.

Revelation 20
5 But the rest [loipoy] of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.

Revelation 20:5 uses the same word used in Revelation 19:21:

And the remnant [loipoi] were slain with the sword of him that sat upon the horse, which sword proceeded out of his mouth: and all the fowls were filled with their flesh.

Question: Does the time for the judging of the dead of necessity mean that it's also the time of the second death? Or are the dead that John saw being delivered up from hades at the close of Revelation 20 speaking about the rest of the dead who had already been judged, and it was now time for the sentencin to be applied?
 

PinSeeker

Well-Known Member
Oct 4, 2021
4,274
1,029
113
Nashville
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
Gender
Male
This covers a little more about the body of Jesus.

Psa 139:13 For thou hast possessed my reins: thou hast covered me in my mother's womb.

Psa 139:14 I will praise thee; for I am fearfully and wonderfully made: marvellous are thy works; and that my soul knoweth right well.

Psa 139:15 My substance was not hid from thee, when I was made in secret, and curiously wrought in the lowest parts of the earth.

Psa 139:16 Thine eyes did see my substance, yet being unperfect; and in thy book all my members were written, which in continuance were fashioned, when as yet there was none of them.
Psalm 139, IR, is a psalm of David. David is talking... singing, actually... about himself in Psalm 139.

Grace and peace to you.