if i wanted to become a catholic

[GodsGrace]

Meh as we see in scripture the devil is very capable of producing "miracles" to help others believe his lies and to solidify their pathway on the high way to hell so nothing new about this

So Big Boy
I'm really interested in why Protestants hate Catholicism so much.

So here's my question to you:
HOW is a miracle that makes a person believe God is real.....
provided by satan??

Isn't that self-defeating??

 

[bdavidc]

how would you suggest i do that

Don’t. Catholicism is a false teaching.

The Bible tells us that people will forsake the truth and follow the teaching of men rather than God (2 Timothy 4:3–4). When you compare Catholicism to Scripture, you will see that its core doctrines are unbiblical. It teaches salvation by faith plus works, but the Bible says we are saved by grace through faith alone, “not of works” (Ephesians 2:8–9). It exalts tradition and the pope alongside Scripture, but the Bible says Scripture alone makes us “complete” (2 Timothy 3:16–17). It sacrifices Christ again in the Mass, but Hebrews 10: 12 says Jesus made one sacrifice for sins once and for all. It teaches prayers to Mary and the saints, but God’s Word says there is “one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus” (1 Timothy 2:5). It imagines purgatory, in violation of Hebrews 9: 27, and it teaches infant baptism, which flies in the face of the command to “Repent, and be baptized” (Acts 2:38).

Catholicism is an addition to and contradiction of the Word of God. The true gospel is that “Christ died for our sins… he was buried, and… he rose again the third day according to the scriptures” (1 Corinthians 15:3–4). We are justified by faith in Christ alone, apart from works or religious systems (Romans 3:28). Catholicism preaches another gospel, and the Bible says of such teaching: “Let him be accursed” (Galatians 1:9).

If you are seeking God, do not turn to Catholicism. Turn to Jesus Christ alone. Repent of your sins and believe in Him for salvation, because only His blood saves (Revelation 1:5).

 

[amigo de christo]

Won't be meeting up with any of these types any time soon.
Have me 2 Bishops..
But I called them by their first names.

you might call them by their first names .
But do even these very bishops use phrases such as most holy father , most holy reverand
upon others . You see you might not be calling them such
BUT ARE THEY calling others such or allowing even others to call them most holy ANYTHING .
IF so , You gots to correct , you gots to rebuke them
and if they dont hear thee , FLEE and take any and all you can with you OUT that door .
WE cant just sit and try and get along . As i am sure you would agree with that .

 

[amigo de christo]

So Big Boy
I'm really interested in why Protestants hate Catholicism so much.

So here's my question to you:
HOW is a miracle that makes a person believe God is real.....
provided by satan??

Isn't that self-defeating??

Go to and behold the scriptures .
its not to point them to GOD that satan do and his men do as they do with miracles ,
But how much you bet them men and those who sit under them
THINK ITS OF GOD , WHEN IT never was . WHEN it never was .
Satan wants folks to beleive in any god , EVEN BELIEVING IT TO BE GOD
SO LONG as its NOT THE GOD , HIS CHRIST .
How many minstirs indeed can appear as ministirs of righteousness
BUT IT aint GOD they leading anyone too . BUT THEY CAN USE HIS NAME and EVEN THE NAME OF JESUS .
OH yeah . ITS ALL OVER the places . the nar realm is chalked full of grown satanist
WHO BELEIVE THEMSELVES TO BE CHRISTIAN . that too is a fact . OH it be a fact .

 

[amigo de christo]

Don’t. Catholicism is a false teaching.

The Bible tells us that people will forsake the truth and follow the teaching of men rather than God (2 Timothy 4:3–4). When you compare Catholicism to Scripture, you will see that its core doctrines are unbiblical. It teaches salvation by faith plus works, but the Bible says we are saved by grace through faith alone, “not of works” (Ephesians 2:8–9). It exalts tradition and the pope alongside Scripture, but the Bible says Scripture alone makes us “complete” (2 Timothy 3:16–17). It sacrifices Christ again in the Mass, but Hebrews 10: 12 says Jesus made one sacrifice for sins once and for all. It teaches prayers to Mary and the saints, but God’s Word says there is “one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus” (1 Timothy 2:5). It imagines purgatory, in violation of Hebrews 9: 27, and it teaches infant baptism, which flies in the face of the command to “Repent, and be baptized” (Acts 2:38).

Catholicism is an addition to and contradiction of the Word of God. The true gospel is that “Christ died for our sins… he was buried, and… he rose again the third day according to the scriptures” (1 Corinthians 15:3–4). We are justified by faith in Christ alone, apart from works or religious systems (Romans 3:28). Catholicism preaches another gospel, and the Bible says of such teaching: “Let him be accursed” (Galatians 1:9).

If you are seeking God, do not turn to Catholicism. Turn to Jesus Christ alone. Repent of your sins and believe in Him for salvation, because only His blood saves (Revelation 1:5).

Now here is a soul that truly desires GOOD for the people and thus he will warn folks
NOT to go into any dangerous places . THANK YOU my friend for doing what many no longer do .
Thank you for exposing what is false rather than HOLLERING JUDGE NOT as many others do .

 

[amigo de christo]

So Big Boy
I'm really interested in why Protestants hate Catholicism so much.

So here's my question to you:
HOW is a miracle that makes a person believe God is real.....
provided by satan??

Isn't that self-defeating??

Lets not be quite so fast to say we hate catholics .
I mean you will see me warning with as much diligence against the nar realm , WHICH was noted as being IN the protesetant realm .
BUT IT TOO now does the working of the mother harlot .
In case you have not realized yet , THEY using the word catholic
and saying its universal , but really THEY ARE PUSHING US ALL BACK HOME TO MAMA MOTHER HARLOT RCC .
I know exactly what they been doing .
I will not call myself catholic , it confuses people .
WE are christain . THAT title i have seen in the bible . FIRST called christain in antioch .
THEY are using the word catholic , VERY DECEPTIVLY
ITS TRY TO and get us back INTO that harlot RCC , interfaith JESUS SELLING OUT place .
And if you find that hard to beleive
YOU GO and behold what these popes have been saying . LYING to other religoins , ON STAGE and for all to see .
LYING t othem and saying we all coming to God . ITS OF ANTI CHRIST . I WILL expose them all , . JESUS HAS BEEN DENIED . THIS is all about A ONE WORLD relgion .

 

[amigo de christo]

So Big Boy
I'm really interested in why Protestants hate Catholicism so much.

So here's my question to you:
HOW is a miracle that makes a person believe God is real.....
provided by satan??

Isn't that self-defeating??

The time is coming and now is
when these so called unified demoniations with THE RELGOINS
will cast men like me out of society , calling us haters of GOD and of man and in the way of peace n safety .
And if you are not careful , even you will be casting out brethren with them .
You on the borderline my friend . The line between . and its very dangerous .
As of yet i dont believe you have fallen for the lie . But if we stay yoked up in such places
WE WILL FALL for the lie .
And if i didnt love you i would not warn you . You seem to be right on the line . you know truth
but are too focused on this catholic thing . That is dangerous my friend .

 

[GodsGrace]

you might call them by their first names .
But do even these very bishops use phrases such as most holy father , most holy reverand
upon others . You see you might not be calling them such
BUT ARE THEY calling others such or allowing even others to call them most holy ANYTHING .
IF so , You gots to correct , you gots to rebuke them
and if they dont hear thee , FLEE and take any and all you can with you OUT that door .
WE cant just sit and try and get along . As i am sure you would agree with that .

I don't think I'll be rebuking any Bishop Amigo!
One Bishop I know owns a bike and goes biking up in the mountains.
I see weird stuff here !

 

[GodsGrace]

Go to and behold the scriptures .
its not to point them to GOD that satan do and his men do as they do with miracles ,
But how much you bet them men and those who sit under them
THINK ITS OF GOD , WHEN IT never was . WHEN it never was .
Satan wants folks to beleive in any god , EVEN BELIEVING IT TO BE GOD
SO LONG as its NOT THE GOD , HIS CHRIST .
How many minstirs indeed can appear as ministirs of righteousness
BUT IT aint GOD they leading anyone too . BUT THEY CAN USE HIS NAME and EVEN THE NAME OF JESUS .
OH yeah . ITS ALL OVER the places . the nar realm is chalked full of grown satanist
WHO BELEIVE THEMSELVES TO BE CHRISTIAN . that too is a fact . OH it be a fact .

Amigo...my friend....
anything that brings to God cannot be of satan.

 

[GodsGrace]

Lets not be quite so fast to say we hate catholics .
I mean you will see me warning with as much diligence against the nar realm , WHICH was noted as being IN the protesetant realm .
BUT IT TOO now does the working of the mother harlot .
In case you have not realized yet , THEY using the word catholic
and saying its universal , but really THEY ARE PUSHING US ALL BACK HOME TO MAMA MOTHER HARLOT RCC .
I know exactly what they been doing .
I will not call myself catholic , it confuses people .
WE are christain . THAT title i have seen in the bible . FIRST called christain in antioch .
THEY are using the word catholic , VERY DECEPTIVLY
ITS TRY TO and get us back INTO that harlot RCC , interfaith JESUS SELLING OUT place .
And if you find that hard to beleive
YOU GO and behold what these popes have been saying . LYING to other religoins , ON STAGE and for all to see .
LYING t othem and saying we all coming to God . ITS OF ANTI CHRIST . I WILL expose them all , . JESUS HAS BEEN DENIED . THIS is all about A ONE WORLD relgion .

They don't deny Jesus.
The problem is that they've ADDED to scripture.
Not good.
But the gospel is preached in Catholicism.

 

[GodsGrace]

The time is coming and now is
when these so called unified demoniations with THE RELGOINS
will cast men like me out of society , calling us haters of GOD and of man and in the way of peace n safety .
And if you are not careful , even you will be casting out brethren with them .
You on the borderline my friend . The line between . and its very dangerous .
As of yet i dont believe you have fallen for the lie . But if we stay yoked up in such places
WE WILL FALL for the lie .
And if i didnt love you i would not warn you . You seem to be right on the line . you know truth
but are too focused on this catholic thing . That is dangerous my friend .

No falling.
No problem.
Yo se la verdad.

 

[GodsGrace]

Don’t. Catholicism is a false teaching.

The Bible tells us that people will forsake the truth and follow the teaching of men rather than God (2 Timothy 4:3–4).

I can ALMOST assure you that YOU are following the teachings of men....
but I don't know you enough.

When you compare Catholicism to Scripture, you will see that its core doctrines are unbiblical.

WHICH core doctrines would those be?

It teaches salvation by faith plus works, but the Bible says we are saved by grace through faith alone, “not of works” (Ephesians 2:8–9).

As usual,,,you're forgetting about Ephesians 2:10
Very convenient.
The NT teaches salvation by faith alone
and it stops there.
For sanctification to happen...we must work in cooperation with God
to obey Him and to help Him bring about his Kingdom on earth...also known as the Kingdom of God.

See.
I told you that you were following the teachings of man.
FAITH ALONE is a non-biblical teaching that began with the Reformation/Calvinist belief system that
DID NOT EXIST in the early church...
that would be the church at the time of the Apostles and some time afterward.

It exalts tradition and the pope alongside Scripture, but the Bible says Scripture alone makes us “complete” (2 Timothy 3:16–17). It sacrifices Christ again in the Mass,

Let me make this perfectly clear for you:
CHRIST IS NOT SACRIFICED AT THE MASS.
He is REMEMBERED...as if we were standing at the foot of the cross.

but Hebrews 10: 12 says Jesus made one sacrifice for sins once and for all.

Yes sir.
And this is what the CC teaches.

It teaches prayers to Mary and the saints, but God’s Word says there is “one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus” (1 Timothy 2:5).

Here we agree....I have said that the CC ADDS to scripture.
As do all denominations.
Do you know a perfect one?

It imagines purgatory, in violation of Hebrews 9: 27, and it teaches infant baptism, which flies in the face of the command to “Repent, and be baptized” (Acts 2:38).

This would be a rather long conversation,,,so I'll skip it.
Let's just say that infants were baptized in the early church...
but not for the reason you may think.

Catholicism is an addition to and contradiction of the Word of God. The true gospel is that “Christ died for our sins… he was buried, and… he rose again the third day according to the scriptures” (1 Corinthians 15:3–4).

Yes. This is the gospel and is what the CC teaches.
And aren't you happy that the CC kept gnosticism out of the early church and preserved this gospel for you?

We are justified by faith in Christ alone, apart from works or religious systems (Romans 3:28). Catholicism preaches another gospel, and the Bible says of such teaching: “Let him be accursed” (Galatians 1:9).

I believe LET THEM BE ACCURSED would bode better for those that came along in the 1500's and taught all manner of incorrect doctrine.

If you are seeking God, do not turn to Catholicism. Turn to Jesus Christ alone. Repent of your sins and believe in Him for salvation, because only His blood saves (Revelation 1:5).

Yes sir.
This is what the CC teaches.

 

[Behold]

But the gospel is preached in Catholicism.

The Gospel is confused in Catholicism.

See, Christians understand that "faith in Christ"......comes, when we "hear the Gospel" and "BELIEVE IT">..........and then God redeems the believer.

Whereas......in MaryCult teaching.....they teach that "the water washes your sin away"......as their "baptismal regeneration" gospel, and that is a false Gospel.
Water is not required for Salvation.
Only Faith in Christ is required......because Salvation is based on "Justification by faith", without works or deeds of the law or water baptism.

In Acts 2, Peter only knew of John the Baptist's message to the JEWS.. .which was......."repent and be water baptized".....so, that is all he knew at that time, so, that is what he told the jews at Pentecost who said......"what must we do".... ???
But once Paul came into the ministry, and Jesus gave Him the "The Gospel of the Grace of God"..then Peter learned this and that became His Gospel, as well.
Peter had Paul's letters, and Peter defined them as SCRIPTURE in one of His own letters...........long before a NT showed up.

WE are to teach Paul's Gospel.........Becasue it is THE Gospel, and any other is CURSED... Galatians 1:8

 

[Matthias]

In your learnings...
is there a hierarchy in the NT times found only in the NT?

PS...
This just might be a TRICK question...

 

[GodsGrace]

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Come on Matthias...
You can do it !!

 

[GodsGrace]

The Gospel is confused in Catholicism.

See, Christians understand that "faith in Christ"......comes, when we "hear the Gospel" and "BELIEVE IT">..........and then God redeems the believer.

Whereas......in MaryCult teaching.....they teach that "the water washes your sin away"......as their "baptismal regeneration" gospel, and that is a false Gospel.
Water is not required for Salvation.
Only Faith in Christ is required......because Salvation is based on "Justification by faith", without works or deeds of the law or water baptism.

In Acts 2, Peter only knew of John the Baptist's message to the JEWS.. .which was......."repent and be water baptized".....so, that is all he knew at that time, so, that is what he told the jews at Pentecost who said......"what must we do".... ???
But once Paul came into the ministry, and Jesus gave Him the "The Gospel of the Grace of God"..then Peter learned this and that became His Gospel, as well.
Peter had Paul's letters, and Peter defined them as SCRIPTURE in one of His own letters...........long before a NT showed up.

WE are to teach Paul's Gospel.........Becasue it is THE Gospel, and any other is CURSED... Galatians 1:8

Paul has a gospel?
Is HIS gospel different than what Jesus taught?

And I'm not replying to anymore of your posts that use the expression MARYCULT.

Have some respect for the Mother of Jesus/God.
Yes.
The Mother of God.

 

[GodsGrace]

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OK. I don't like discussing the divinity of Jesus because I don't believe it should be necessary.
(not that your image has anything to do with this).
AND then some write CHRISTIAN under their avatar and you know this really bothers me.

Wes Huff agrees with me!
It was just wonderful hearing someone of his caliber state what I always say...
that being a Christian means something and we cannot call ourselves §Christian unless
we follow the tenets of that faith system.
(we had discussed this way back when).

This is what he said:
Believing one can be Christian without believing the Trinity
is like saying one could be married without having a wife.

Love it!
Now don't respond or we'll start up the discussion.

 

[bdavidc]

I can ALMOST assure you that YOU are following the teachings of men....
but I don't know you enough.

WHICH core doctrines would those be?


As usual,,,you're forgetting about Ephesians 2:10
Very convenient.
The NT teaches salvation by faith alone
and it stops there.
For sanctification to happen...we must work in cooperation with God
to obey Him and to help Him bring about his Kingdom on earth...also known as the Kingdom of God.

See.
I told you that you were following the teachings of man.
FAITH ALONE is a non-biblical teaching that began with the Reformation/Calvinist belief system that
DID NOT EXIST in the early church...
that would be the church at the time of the Apostles and some time afterward.



Let me make this perfectly clear for you:
CHRIST IS NOT SACRIFICED AT THE MASS.
He is REMEMBERED...as if we were standing at the foot of the cross.


Yes sir.
And this is what the CC teaches.

Here we agree....I have said that the CC ADDS to scripture.
As do all denominations.
Do you know a perfect one?

This would be a rather long conversation,,,so I'll skip it.
Let's just say that infants were baptized in the early church...
but not for the reason you may think.


Yes. This is the gospel and is what the CC teaches.
And aren't you happy that the CC kept gnosticism out of the early church and preserved this gospel for you?

I believe LET THEM BE ACCURSED would bode better for those that came along in the 1500's and taught all manner of incorrect doctrine.

Yes sir.
This is what the CC teaches.

Catholicism is not the gospel of Jesus Christ. It is a gospel of man-made traditions, in direct opposition to the Bible. You can defend it all you want, but God’s Word cuts through every excuse.

It preaches salvation by faith plus works, yet the Bible says: “For by grace are ye saved through faith… not of works, lest any man should boast” (Ephesians 2:8–9). Works come after salvation, but they never earn it.

It elevates the pope and tradition, but Scripture alone makes us complete: “All Scripture is given by inspiration of God… that the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works” (2 Timothy 3:16–17).

It repeats the sacrifice of Christ in the Mass, but Hebrews says: “This man, after he had offered one sacrifice for sins for ever, sat down on the right hand of God” (Hebrews 10:12). One sacrifice was enough.

It prays to Mary and the saints, yet the Bible says: “There is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus” (1 Timothy 2:5). Any other mediator is a lie.

It imagines purgatory, but Scripture declares: “It is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment” (Hebrews 9:27). No second chance.

And it baptizes infants, while the Bible commands: “Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ” (Acts 2:38). Repentance must come before baptism, and infants cannot repent.

The gospel is clear: “Christ died for our sins… he was buried, and… he rose again the third day according to the scriptures” (1 Corinthians 15:3–4). Anything that adds to this or twists this is, in Paul’s words, “another gospel” — and he said, “let him be accursed” (Galatians 1:9).

So let’s be clear. Catholicism is not the true gospel. It is a counterfeit. The only way to be saved is by turning from sin and trusting in Jesus Christ alone, because “the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin” (1 John 1:7). You need to repent and come to know Jesus as the truth.

“Making the word of God of none effect through your tradition” (Mark 7:13).

 

[Behold]

Paul has a gospel?

Yes, Paul said that if you preach any other Gospel then HIS.......you are CURSED, and is your denominaiton that preaches "another Gospel".

Have you never read Galatians 1:8?

= Any other "gospel" then Paul's is "cursed".......so you dont want to be that one.

Also........ Paul wrote this...

Romans 2:16

16 """ In the day when God shall judge the secrets of men by Jesus Christ according to = MY gospel.""

See the 'MY Gospel"?

That's Paul's Gospel.

Paul stated 3x in the NT that His gospel is '"MY Gospel".

THe MaryCult has no use for Paul's Gospel, as they have their "water washed away your sins"......"baptismal regeneration"......False Gospel.......(Galatians 1:8)>​

Have some respect for the Mother of Jesus/God.

 

[GodsGrace]

Catholicism is not the gospel of Jesus Christ. It is a gospel of man-made traditions, in direct opposition to the Bible. You can defend it all you want, but God’s Word cuts through every excuse.

You're repeating.
Does this mean that you don't actually KNOW what the CC teaches?
You'll have to state what you think IS the gospel of the CC.

It preaches salvation by faith plus works, yet the Bible says: “For by grace are ye saved through faith… not of works, lest any man should boast” (Ephesians 2:8–9). Works come after salvation, but they never earn it.

Well, if Jesus states that we are to do good works...
and God demands obedience....
and this obedience teaches good works....
are we allowed NOT to do good works??
Do you have some scripture that states that we don't have to do good works?
Do you agree with Jesus here:

Matthew 7:21
21 "Not everyone who says to Me, 'Lord, Lord,' will enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father who is in heaven will enter.

What do YOU think the will of the Father is?

It elevates the pope and tradition, but Scripture alone makes us complete: “All Scripture is given by inspiration of God… that the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works” (2 Timothy 3:16–17).

Oh. OK. So we ARE to do good works?
Agreed.

It repeats the sacrifice of Christ in the Mass, but Hebrews says: “This man, after he had offered one sacrifice for sins for ever, sat down on the right hand of God” (Hebrews 10:12). One sacrifice was enough.

Oh wow.
You really do like to repeat.
Please post something from a respected source...
like maybe the CC....
explaining HOW Jesus is recrucified at every Mass.

It prays to Mary and the saints, yet the Bible says: “There is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus” (1 Timothy 2:5). Any other mediator is a lie.

It imagines purgatory, but Scripture declares: “It is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment” (Hebrews 9:27). No second chance.

See bdavidc...
You don't know much.
Purgatory is NOT second chance.

Perhaps you'd like to post something about purgatory that the CC actually teaches?
THEN we could discuss its possibility (or not).

And it baptizes infants, while the Bible commands: “Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ” (Acts 2:38). Repentance must come before baptism, and infants cannot repent.

Do you know WHY it baptizes infants?
Do you know church history?
Did you know that infants were baptized in the early church?
I'll bet you didn't.

The gospel is clear: “Christ died for our sins… he was buried, and… he rose again the third day according to the scriptures” (1 Corinthians 15:3–4). Anything that adds to this or twists this is, in Paul’s words, “another gospel” — and he said, “let him be accursed” (Galatians 1:9).

Repeating again.
THIS is the gospel that was safeguarded for you the the CC.

Sounds like this discussion is going nowhere.

So how about you stop HATING the CC
and just, maybe, try to find out what it actually teaches and then have SERIOUS conversations about whether or not you agree.

So let’s be clear. Catholicism is not the true gospel. It is a counterfeit. The only way to be saved is by turning from sin and trusting in Jesus Christ alone, because “the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin” (1 John 1:7). You need to repent and come to know Jesus as the truth.

“Making the word of God of none effect through your tradition” (Mark 7:13).

You havn't said much.
those such as yourself never do.