WHO IS IT THAT GROANS WITH GROANINGS WHICH CANNOT BE UTTERED?

[Doug]

[Romans 8:26 KJV] 26 Likewise the Spirit also helpeth our infirmities: for we know not what we should pray for as we ought: but the Spirit itself maketh intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered.

We need to look at this verse another way. The prevalent way to understand this verse is to think the Spirit is making intercession for us with groanings; the Spirit is the one groaning.

This may not be the case. It could be that we are the ones groaning.

[Romans 8:18 KJV] 18 For I reckon that the sufferings of this present time [are] not worthy [to be compared] with the glory which shall be revealed in us.

This passage is about our sufferings.

The Spirit intercedes between God and us when we are suffering from our infirmities and don't know what we should pray for. He intercedes for us in response to, and along with, our groanings which we can't utter in prayer.

Read Romans 8:26 this why to comprehend what he is saying...............the Spirit itself maketh intercession for us accompanied by our groanings which cannot be uttered.

We groan when we suffer in these bodies and wait for the redemption of our bodies.

It is our groanings, not God's, that is found in scripture.

[Romans 8:22-23 KJV] 22 For we know that the whole creation groaneth and travaileth in pain together until now. 23 And not only [they], but ourselves also, which have the firstfruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, waiting for the adoption, [to wit], the redemption of our body.
[2Corinthians 5:2, 4 KJV] 2 For in this we groan, earnestly desiring to be clothed upon with our house which is from heaven: ... 4 For we that are in [this] tabernacle do groan, being burdened: not for that we would be unclothed, but clothed upon, that mortality might be swallowed up of life.

 

[IndianaRob]

The grammar makes it clear that the Spirit is the one producing the groanings. The subject of the clause is “the Spirit itself,” the verb is “maketh intercession,” and the phrase “with groanings which cannot be uttered” describes the manner of that intercession. Since the subject and verb are tied directly, the “groanings” are linked to the Spirit’s intercession, not to the believer’s speech.

 

[Doug]

The grammar makes it clear that the Spirit is the one producing the groanings. The subject of the clause is “the Spirit itself,” the verb is “maketh intercession,” and the phrase “with groanings which cannot be uttered” describes the manner of that intercession. Since the subject and verb are tied directly, the “groanings” are linked to the Spirit’s intercession, not to the believer’s speech.

I thought this as well, but did some more study.

You have to realize we dont always get what scripture is saying right off the bat.

Read it this way........the Spirit itself maketh intercession for us accompanied by our groanings which cannot be uttered.

 

[ScottA]

[Romans 8:18 KJV] 18 For I reckon that the sufferings of this present time [are] not worthy [to be compared] with the glory which shall be revealed in us.

Paul is saying here, that much of what those of that time were suffering would not fully be realized during their lifetime. That they would even utter things they themselves would not fully understand--but the Spirit would make them known when the times are fulfilled.

This is that time.

This he did because he was aware of the glory that would only come later in the church age near the end--but that even he was under restraint. Which he also eluded to, saying, "I know a man in Christ who fourteen years ago—whether in the body I do not know, or whether out of the body I do not know, God knows—such a one was caught up to the third heaven. 3 And I know such a man—whether in the body or out of the body I do not know, God knows— 4 how he was caught up into Paradise and heard inexpressible words, which it is not lawful for a man to utter. 5 Of such a one I will boast; yet of myself I will not boast, except in my infirmities. 6 For though I might desire to boast, I will not be a fool; for I will speak the truth. But I refrain..." (2 Corinthians 12:2-6). And also, "For the mystery of lawlessness is already at work; only He who now restrains will do so until He is taken out of the way" (2 Thessalonians 2:7). Which would not come until the end of the age, until the sounding of the seventh angel, when he is about to sound.