Is anybody listening?
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Aunty Jane
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Yes, but do we really understand what that means? Can we have a “peace that passes human understanding”? The human response is to jump in and do something when we actually need to do nothing but preach God’s solution. Have human efforts so far done anything to stop the rot? Will they ever? What is their track record?
Only God has the power to do what he has promised. Can we let him?
That is not our commission.....our job is to seek out those who want what God is going to bring to mankind....a lasting peace that will reintroduce the life that he planned for us at the beginning.....
God will deal with the real criminals and their human minions. (Eph 6:10-13)
Ministering to the victims is not just about justice, but showing them that the people who let them down will pay in God’s due time, and in ways that do not involve an already corrupt justice system.
Man’s ways never lead to permanent solutions.....corruption remains at the highest levels.
“Let go and let God”...as the saying goes....
It is what God has called me to, and scripturally, it fits within the mandate He has set for His people.
Psalm 82:3-4
3 Defend the poor and fatherless: do justice to the afflicted and needy.
4 Deliver the poor and needy: rid them out of the hand of the wicked.
Isaiah 1:17
"Learn to do well; seek judgment, relieve the oppressed, judge the fatherless, plead for the widow."
Proverbs 19:17
“He that hath pity upon the poor lendeth unto the LORD; and that which he hath given will he pay him again.”
Acts 20:35
“I have shewed you all things, how that so labouring ye ought to support the weak, and to remember the words of the Lord Jesus, how he said, It is more blessed to give than to receive.”
Isaiah 58:10
“And if thou draw out thy soul to the hungry, and satisfy the afflicted soul; then shall thy light rise in obscurity, and thy darkness be as the noonday:”
Deuteronomy 15:11
“For the poor shall never cease out of the land: therefore I command thee, saying, Thou shalt open thine hand wide unto thy brother, to thy poor, and to thy needy, in thy land.”
James 1:27
“Pure religion and undefiled before God and the Father is this, To visit the fatherless and widows in their affliction, and to keep himself unspotted from the world.”
Isaiah 58:5-9
5 Is it such a fast that I have chosen? a day for a man to afflict his soul? is it to bow down his head as a bulrush, and to spread sackcloth and ashes under him? wilt thou call this a fast, and an acceptable day to the LORD?
6 Is not this the fast that I have chosen? to loose the bands of wickedness, to undo the heavy burdens, and to let the oppressed go free, and that ye break every yoke?
7 Is it not to deal thy bread to the hungry, and that thou bring the poor that are cast out to thy house? when thou seest the naked, that thou cover him; and that thou hide not thyself from thine own flesh?
8 Then shall thy light break forth as the morning, and thine health shall spring forth speedily: and thy righteousness shall go before thee; the glory of the LORD shall be thy rereward.
9 Then shalt thou call, and the LORD shall answer; thou shalt cry, and he shall say, Here I am. If thou take away from the midst of thee the yoke, the putting forth of the finger, and speaking vanity;
The corrupt justice system is not where I point trauma survivors to. Ministry is from God, not the world's system.
The justice system is literally the injustice system. We live in a satanic world rule by satanic pedophiles where everything is inverted.
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Aunty Jane
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This then begs the question....who today are “God’s people”?
All of those scripture bar one were for those in ancient Israel....under the old covenant and a different set up entirely to the Christian arrangement under the new covenant.
The Scripture in James has to do with the care of those who were in the Christian congregations, who were orphans and widows...those who did not have a breadwinner or family head to take care of them. These congregations were small and close so that the ones needing the care were known to them and they knew what they needed and offered it in love.
If we have those among us in such need, we are obligated to help them. It wasn’t a broad application to help everyone in ways that are at present, impossible.
James also remind us to “keep unspotted from the world” meaning that we are not to meddle in what is taking place politically, and the things you have shared shows us that the world is under the control of very dark forces. Those forces are no match for us, but they will crumble under the hand of the Almighty when his judgment is meted out.
People are appealing for justice to be done....so who do they imagine in the situation that is coming to light, is going to administer that justice? Only one person has the power.
Ministering to the victims I guess is also the domain of the mental health people, to treat the PTSD.....if you can even trust them?
Trying to cry for justice in a world ruled by the devil, is a silent scream. Only God can fix what is so horribly broken.
I know this from experience, brother. My oldest granddaughter was stolen through the "legal system" ...by DHS. They stole her illegally from my daughter and placed her into the home of a cult family ...April of 2017. She is now 13 years old.
They do this to punish survivors like myself who have broken programming and not performing the roles they planned for us in a "NWO"/beast system.
Please pray for her....pray for my daughter, and pray for the family who took her and the other children in that home.
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I wouldn't trust the mental health system. It is the place of the Church to minister. I was diagnosed with PTSD (years ago). They tried to get me on meds ...I went with Jesus. He's the Great Physician. The Church is like a triage center and we are His nursing staff. That's how it should be.
You're missing the whole point of my thread. Victims are appealing to the government to be heard and for justice. I don't believe that will happen. But those of us who follow Christ need to hear, to pray, to spread awareness ...but pray to be shown how we can be vessels He can use to pour the love of God to the broken and hurting people around us. There are broken people everywhere. Just don't turn a deaf ear and a blind eye because it's too disturbing or too inconvenient, or uncomfortable to know these things are happening.
I’m so sorry. My heart aches reading this. What you and your family have endured is unimaginable but the Lord sees every injustice, and He has His hand on your granddaughter and your daughter.I know this from experience, brother. My oldest granddaughter was stolen through the "legal system" ...by DHS. They stole her illegally from my daughter and placed her into the home of a cult family ...April of 2017. She is now 14 years old.
They do this to punish survivors like myself who have broken programming and not performing the roles they planned for us in a "NWO"/beast system.
Please pray for her....pray for my daughter, and pray for the family who took her and the other children in that home.
I will be lifting them up in prayer, praying that your granddaughter will be surrounded by God’s protection and that your daughter will be strengthened and comforted.
That broke me ...in a good way (tears) ....I don't want my grandbaby to feel abandoned. We fought so hard ... then our youngest son was hit with the fight of his life and we couldn't afford to keep going to court hoping there would be justice.
God bless you
Aunty Jane
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I agree, but the mentally ill who have suffered extreme events and are now saddled with trauma that has nowhere to go but into mental decline or drug therapy...where else do people turn?
Even the churches are having trouble coping with the numbers of those who are damaged by the system.
I agree again, but as the Great Physician, we have to follow his direction or else we end up with doors slammed in our faces, and no power to fight the enemy.
Jesus, by his parable of the “Good Samaritan” shows us that when we are in a position to help someone who needs it, we should provide it....but some souls are so damaged that they are sometimes beyond the ability of ordinary people to help them without putting their own families at risk. Psychosis can come with trauma and you have to hand those damaged souls over to at least receive medication. We have no other legal alternative, and it is all exacerbated when people self-medicate with illicit drugs or alcohol.
My own daughter has PTSD which was never diagnosed, and she became a recluse at home for years before finally seeking help. She knew her life was just going downhill and efforts by others to help were pushed away.....including mine. I could only do so much. With the help of a very caring physician, she asked for help and was put on medication that enabled her to start living again. She will never be cured, but the medication helps her to function at a much higher level, that she ever imagined she could. It’s a temporary measure but is welcomed for its benefits.
Of course we look forward to the permanent solution, but in the meantime we have to be realistic about what God is allowing....because he is allowing it for a reason. He does not need us to intervene as he can take care of those who suffer, and wants to make things right....God can undo all the damage and promises to do so for those who seek him.
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The Lord doesn't "relish" to see the punishment of mankind, and that is why He did and does all He can to help us avoid it. Mankind reaps what they sow. He has created creation in such a way that when people live contrary to God's ways consequences happen, which the Lord allows in His sovereignty and wisdom in hopes they will turn to Him, like when He gave permission to Satan to afflict Job. When people by their own sins and iniquities open the door to the devil and demons, well those entities come only to steal, kill and destroy. Just let's open our eyes and look at this world........there has been plenty "punishment" going on all through history and still going on. God has provided the only help and protection and comfort there is against evil and wrath......His Son Jesus the Christ....but when people reject Him what more can be done? The lost world is always happy to believe and accept anything except Christ and the truth, for such is the depth of perverseness and how sin warps the soul. The "hour of trial" that will test the whole world will be of mankind's own making. And if the earth moans and groans under the weight of sin, we have to realize that even natural disasters are because of the sin of man too. And it seems from scripture that there will be natural disasters on a cosmic scale in the end, along with the evil that man is doing. Since all power belongs to God, to Him belongs all the glory, not to the devil or to man.
David in one of the Psalms acknowledged that the Lord was right and just to afflict him. The Lord judges righteously, we need to know and acknowledge that His judgments are just and right.
Psa 119:75
I know, O LORD, that thy judgments are right, and that thou in faithfulness hast afflicted me.
And this lovely passage below lets us know what our attitude needs to be, not one of accusing Him of unrighteousness but one of humility and humbling ourselves under His mighty hand (turning our cheek to the One who strikes us) that in due time He might lift us up.
Lam 3:25-40
The LORD is good to those who wait for Him,
To the soul who seeks Him.
It is good that one should hope and wait quietly
For the salvation of the LORD.
It is good for a man to bear
The yoke in his youth.
Let him sit alone and keep silent,
Because God has laid it on him;
Let him put his mouth in the dust—
There may yet be hope.
Let him give his cheek to the one who strikes him,
And be full of reproach.
For the Lord will not cast off forever.
Though He causes grief,
Yet He will show compassion
According to the multitude of His mercies.
For He does not afflict willingly,
Nor grieve the children of men.
To crush under one’s feet
All the prisoners of the earth,
To turn aside the justice due a man
Before the face of the Most High,
Or subvert a man in his cause—
The Lord does not approve.
Who is he who speaks and it comes to pass,
When the Lord has not commanded it?
Is it not from the mouth of the Most High
That woe and well-being proceed?
Why should a living man complain,
A man for the punishment of his sins?
Let us search out and examine our ways,
And turn back to the LORD;
All those files with all the information and names they must certainly contain, and yet nobody has been arrested and charged except Epstein and Maxwell, and only one of their many "clients" got exposed, Prince Andrew. Meanwhile the president just continues on with the gaslighting and attempts to distract from the subject. And it seems like a lot of his followers are blind to the obvious.
I think for many they might be having trouble getting their heads around so much evil, seeking refuge in denial....and also not always sure who or what to believe. And this throws a monkey wrench in the modern day philosophy that many have imbibed, wrongly believing that human nature is inherently good.
The perpetrators will have to answer to the Lord in the end, unless any of them repent and turn to Jesus. I pray also for the victims to turn to Him and be helped and comforted and also protected by Him. Yes I don't think we can always count on too much justice from this world, although I do believe God is exposing the evil in these days (maybe only or mostly for those who are willing and have eyes to see?)
If it was regular people all would of been exposed and charged with their crimes but because its the rich man's sex club to get young girls they are all protected by massive law suits if anyone opens their mouth.
...massive lawsuits, threats, blackmail ...or death.
amigo de christo
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I challenge all of us to examine what is really been going on within christendom and on websites .
Look and examine most posts and the actions in most churches .
YOU will find they spend much of their time making excuse for the evil
and casting out anyone who tries to correct , making them seem as THE EVIL ones .
EVERYONE goes around trying to make excuse and to please man . NOT GOD .
IT darn sure aint about TRYING TO BE PLEASING TO GOD at all .
ITS about what pleases man , HIS sinful nature . NOT GOD .
And that is why these places have went DOWN THE TUBES . no one really is concerned or even cares
about WHAT offends GOD , just what might offend man . AND ITS ALL GOING DOWN HILL as a result .
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