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Ronald Nolette

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Sola Scriptura is NOT Biblical truth.

If it were – you would be able to show it from Scripture – and you can’t . . .
I did! You are just to stubborn to admit it.
Paul didn’t pigeonhole the entire Word of God into ONLY what is written.

In 2 Thess., he goes on to say that Sacred Oral Tradition is ON PAR with Scripture:


2 Thess 2:15
"Stand firm and hold fast to the Traditions you were taught, whether by an ORAL STATEMENT or by a LETTER from us."


The Word of God is passed on thtough His Church – by what ius written and spoken.
But you willingly forget that those oral traditions are the very things that became the New Testament!
I can give you implicit teaching from Scripture on ALL of the above.
Why can’t YOU give me the Biblical proof for
Sola Scripture??
See it is implicit. Or implied based on your predisposed bias!

I did give you sola scriptura, you just don't want to accept it.

But let me ask you a question. If the RCC issued a doctrine that cannot be found in scripture or its foundations or priniciples found in Scripture, would you consider it from God?
 

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I did! You are just to stubborn to admit it.

But you willingly forget that those oral traditions are the very things that became the New Testament!

See it is implicit. Or implied based on your predisposed bias!

I did give you sola scriptura, you just don't want to accept it.

But let me ask you a question. If the RCC issued a doctrine that cannot be found in scripture or its foundations or priniciples found in Scripture, would you consider it from God?
NOTHING in Scripture preaches the heresy of sola scriptura so everything you say after that is meaningless
 

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I did! You are just to stubborn to admit it.

But you willingly forget that those oral traditions are the very things that became the New Testament!

See it is implicit. Or implied based on your predisposed bias!

I did give you sola scriptura, you just don't want to accept it.

But let me ask you a question. If the RCC issued a doctrine that cannot be found in scripture or its foundations or priniciples found in Scripture, would you consideve,er it from God?
They're RCC bots.
They can't go against what the church says is acursed. Their soul,they are programmed to believe,would be imperiled.

It's a cult. Instilled from birth in most cases.

You're trying to reach a bot of the fascist regime.

Only God changes them. Not you. Or,us.
 

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They're RCC bots.
They can't go against what the church says is acursed. Their soul,they are programmed to believe,would be imperiled.

It's a cult. Instilled from birth in most cases.

You're trying to reach a bot of the fascist regime.

Only God changes them. Not you. Or,us.
Only one church can remotely begin to trace it's history back to Jesus and it sure as heck isn't your strip mall cashier turned pastor led church that's for darn sure.

And if its true that that church is the church Jesus established then why wouldn't you be obedient to it?!

I bet you consider yourself a loving "Christian" don't you?! I The fascist regime comment makes that abundantly clear. That's why I have very little regard for some som called Christians. You're an embarrassment
 

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Only one church can remotely begin to trace it's history back to Jesus and it sure as heck isn't your strip mall cashier turned pastor led church that's for darn sure.

And if its true that that church is the church Jesus established then why wouldn't you be obedient to it?!

I bet you consider yourself a loving "Christian" don't you?! I The fascist regime comment makes that abundantly clear. That's why I have very little regard for some som called Christians. You're an embarrassment
You just insured you are incapable of judging any Christian by your own sorry example and ignorance.

You know nothing of the government of the RCC.Nothing.
Otherwise you would know referring to it as a Fascist Dictatorship is correct.

The Pope is the Dictator of one of the smallest sovereign states on Earth.

According to you,Jesus would be an embarrassment calling the Pharisees what they were at the time.
 
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The Eastern Orthodox
Their display of golden idols make that incorrect.

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The article cites Gal 1:6 as a proof text against pagan influences and not the judaizing heresy that it is really about, and by extension, the entire epistle. Then proceeds to promote judiazing doctrine while bringing up the old canard of Constantine corrupted the church. Which is pretty amusing since the Arian resurgence occurs shortly after and became dominate over and against the Nicaens. It would take another 80 years for Arianism to finally die out. So if the goal was to corrupt the church, I would say he did a pretty awful job at it..
 

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Where does the Bible teach osas?

What does that matter? You've decided there's a deadline on when Jesus speaks? Hilarious. Did he have to get permission from you to do miracles too?
Anything Jesus says today will not contradict what He spoke in the past. He does not contradict Himself.
I have posted over 25 verses that show eternal security. Look them up.
 

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NOTHING in Scripture preaches the heresy of sola scriptura so everything you say after that is meaningless
Yes it does, but like Bread of Life, you refuse to accept it. You wish to leave room for man made doctrines to come into teh church that have no biblical foundation.

No one says there is an ongoing revelation that adds doctrine to the church in the Scriptures.

Jesus and the apostles are the foundation of the church and their words are that foundation. we can only build upon that foundation. Not change the foundation.
 
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They're RCC bots.
They can't go against what the church says is acursed. Their soul,they are programmed to believe,would be imperiled.

It's a cult. Instilled from birth in most cases.

You're trying to reach a bot of the fascist regime.

Only God changes them. Not you. Or,us.
Yes it is God that changtes them, and it is through His Word that they are able to get the faith to smash the false foundation laid by the RCC.
 
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Yes it does, but like Bread of Life, you refuse to accept it. You wish to leave room for man made doctrines to come into teh church that have no biblical foundation.

No one says there is an ongoing revelation that adds doctrine to the church in the Scriptures.

Jesus and the apostles are the foundation of the church and their words are that foundation. we can only build upon that foundation. Not change the foundation.
Lmbo profitable doesn't mean only no matter how much you really really really really really want it to mean that
 

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Yes it does, but like Bread of Life, you refuse to accept it. You wish to leave room for man made doctrines to come into teh church that have no biblical foundation.

No one says there is an ongoing revelation that adds doctrine to the church in the Scriptures.

Jesus and the apostles are the foundation of the church and their words are that foundation. we can only build upon that foundation. Not change the foundation.
For all we know they could be BoL and even the other supposed RCC here. They all sound the same.

But they don't actually defend the church. They just keep reiterating RCC is the first one and only one.

Which is why I think they could be faking the RCC congregant affiliation.
 

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For all we know they could be BoL and even the other supposed RCC here. They all sound the same.

But they don't actually defend the church. They just keep reiterating RCC is the first one and only one.

Which is why I think they could be faking the RCC congregant affiliation.
The Catholic Church is the only church that can even remotely begin to trace it's history back to the apostles. That's a fact. Period. You don't like it. That's not relevant to whether it's true or not. The pomposity of you people is staggering. Facts are not your friends
 

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The Catholic Church is the only church that can even remotely begin to trace it's history back to the apostles. That's a fact. Period. You don't like it. That's not relevant to whether it's true or not. The pomposity of you people is staggering. Facts are not your friends
They're not yours actually.
The Church of Christ was birthed the day he was. It "became official" on the day of Pentecost.

You should work to be nicer. As it is you are building up quite a list for your next confession.

And after everything you all still have purgatory to look forward too.

I'm done reading you.
 

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They're not yours actually.
The Church of Christ was birthed the day he was. It "became official" on the day of Pentecost.

You should work to be nicer. As it is you are building up quite a list for your next confession.

And after everything you all still have purgatory to look forward too.

I'm done reading you.
No Jesus said, you are Peter and on this rock I will build my church. He didn't say "built" he said "will build". So sad too bad for you. We're supposed to believe the Holy Spirit abandoned the church for 1500 years until the looney little monk came along????? Your leader is Luther not Jesus

You should run away. I would too if I was you.
 
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Ah, I see.
I knew that.
Thank you.

That's a lie. Plainly said,that's a lie.As has been posted in proof,repeatedly.

However, I do understand how you,a Roman Catholic, think that is true.



2 Corinthians 4
Therefore, having this ministry by the mercy of God,[a] we do not lose heart. 2 But we have renounced disgraceful, underhanded ways. We refuse to practice[b] cunning or to tamper with God's word, but by the open statement of the truth we would commend ourselves to everyone's conscience in the sight of God. 3 And even if our gospel is veiled, it is veiled to those who are perishing. 4 In their case the god of this world has blinded the minds of the unbelievers, to keep them from seeing the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God. 5 For what we proclaim is not ourselves, but Jesus Christ as Lord, with ourselves as your servants[c] for Jesus' sake. 6 For God, who said, “Let light shine out of darkness,” has shone in our hearts to give the light of the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Jesus Christ.


John 8
Why do you not understand what I say? It is because you cannot bear to hear my word. You are of your father the devil, and your will is to do your father's desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks out of his own character, for he is a liar and the father of lies. But because I tell the truth, you do not believe me. Which one of you convicts me of sin? If I tell the truth, why do you not believe me? Whoever is of God hears the words of God. The reason why you do not hear them is that you are not of God.”

Neither of these passages supports the false doctrine of Solo Scriptura because neither of these passages states that ALL of God's word is encompassed in what is written..

You have YET to provide a Biblical verse that teaches that Scripture is our SOLE authority . . .