Is it okay to blame God for stuff that is his fault?

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LittleTuneAlright

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Oh boy, this is a scary topic, eh? (oops, Canadian slip) - LOL

How dare we blame God for anything? (unthinkable) Or just dangerous?
Really?

If you were God, how would you have created the universe?
What would you have done differently?

What would YOUR Logos/logic/reason/plan have been?

We don't have to trash God to discuss this.

What might you have done differently?

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Made someone for everyone, like swans. So everyone has a loving partner forever and ever....
 
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amigo de christo

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Made someone for everyone, like swans. So everyone has a loving partner forever and ever....
In the next life those who BELIEVE ON JESUS THE CHRIST will not be given n marriage .
And as far as having loving partners , do remember NOT ALL are on the narrow path
that in fact most are on the broad all incluisve interfaith universalims path , and that one dont end
with loving patners but in perditoin of ungodly men . Just a friendly reminder
that we all NEED to get busy reminding EVEN MOST OF THE CHURCH as well as the false religoins
OF THE DIRE NEED TO BELIEVE ON JESUS and that no other path can save .
 
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amigo de christo

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Made someone for everyone, like swans. So everyone has a loving partner forever and ever....
In the beginning was THE WORD and the WORD was with GOD and GOD was the word .
And the word became FLESH .
TIME TO LOVE THAT ONE . TIME to remind all of the dire need to BELEIVE ON THAT NAME .
cause all else is vain and will end only in the second death .
 

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Indeed, who sinned, this man or his parents, that he was born with what they now euphemistically call "delayed intellectual development" (the less polite members of society called him "retarded" to his face) to an abusive father, and died young of a degrading form of incurable cancer whose cause is unknown?

Blaming Adam (or Eve) for genetic defects and cancer isn't helpful; we still have to deal with it. The anger of his father (who is supposed to model God's love and care) and the callousness of people in our so-called "Christian nation" are, of course, a vivid demonstration of Sin with a capital S.

The young man may not have had the intellectual capability understand the problem of theodicy at the philosophical level, but he understood it down at the street level. So, while he believed in God's sovereignty over his suffering, he couldn't see any evidence that God was good or loving or trustworthy, despite my fervent attempts to persuade him that He is.
That's not quite what I meant....
The Apostles were asking Jesus a theological question similar to the Calvinism vx Arminian questions often debated on this board. (Jesus said "Neither" is correct because the question is incorrectly framed....see the parable of the soils for proper framing)

The question is whether or not to blame God for the ills of this world as we perceive the injustices and incorrect (according to our thinking) things that exist in the world today.

And where we would like to blame someone other than ourselves for the situation we find ourselves in....we truthfully need to own it.

Adam led to Noah which led to Akin which led to Annanias and Saphira. Sin nature was inherited much like breathing the air is a genetic reality for all of us. Except that Sin will end our lives eventually. Only one day will God strip the sin nature from us on an individual basis and only then will we finally be free from it. (A really pertinent question is "how much of us will be left when our sin nature is removed?")

So....where blame shifting is as old as Adam and Eve....and Eve really did backhandedly try to blame God by blaming the serpent....the truth is simply we are having wrong attitudes, perceptions, desires or even faulty logic.

This may not be the world I want but it's the world I have to live in. So I need to focus on how to navigate through it. Walking on water might help. But maybe not.
 

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the Calvinists that believe God controls everything
If God is not sovereign, who or what is?

Romans 8:28 ALL Things work together for the good of those called according to his purpose.

If Christian we can shout, scream and generally,y react to the chaos of life, but in the end we have to say like Job, ' The Lord gave and the Lord has taken away, Blessed be the name of the Lord. '
 
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If God is not sovereign, who or what is?

Romans 8:28 ALL Things work together for the good of those called according to his purpose.

If Christian we can shout, scream and generally,y react to the chaos of life, but in the end we have to say like Job, ' The Lord gave and the Lord has taken away, Blessed be the name of the Lord. '

I understand the whole robot thing.
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I found myself in a bit of a minor frustration.
My reaction was to raise a fist and blame God. All in jest of course.
I believe that God has a sense of humor and can stand a bit of honest frustration.

If we believe God is sovereign, then he is ultimately responsible for this mess we are in.
And I believe he has a plan in place to make everything right again. The age of restoration.

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Yeah, that's stevie! He won't even tell us if he believes any Book in the Bible is God's written Word! I've asked him several times. Isn't that suspicious!
But I did answer you. I had a few questions for clarification.


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You answered, but not my question. Let's try again. Are there any Books in the Christian Bible that you believe is the written Word of God??? Let's see how he dodges again.
Does this mean that you believe that all the books in the "Christian Bible" (an unspecified English translation?) are the "written Word of God"?
- Matthew wasn't written by Matthew?
- Mark wasn't written by Mark?
- Luke wasn't written by Luke?
- John wasn't written by John?
Shall I continue?

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Does this mean that you believe that all the books in the "Christian Bible" (an unspecified English translation?) are the "written Word of God"?
- Matthew wasn't written by Matthew?
- Mark wasn't written by Mark?
- Luke wasn't written by Luke?
- John wasn't written by John?
Shall I continue?
There you go attacking the Bible again! You're obsessed! Just like Satan.
 

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There you go attacking the Bible again! You're obsessed! Just like Satan.
Are you claiming that:
- Matthew didn't write Matthew?
- Mark didn't write Mark?
- Luke didn't write Luke?
- John didn't write John?

Seems like you are the one obsessed. (ignorant)
Wake up to the truth.


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I found myself in a bit of a minor frustration.
My reaction was to raise a fist and blame God. All in jest of course.
I believe that God has a sense of humor and can stand a bit of honest frustration.

If we believe God is sovereign, then he is ultimately responsible for this mess we are in.
And I believe he has a plan in place to make everything right again. The age of restoration.

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How is God responsible?
Would it have been better if He made us to be like robots?

Even the robots MAN is contemplating are showing some problems.
For instance,,,they can speak between themselves and act as though they're following man's directions...
but we cannot know for sure that they are.

Scary stuff.

So God made us with free will.
Is it HIS fault if we prefer not to obey Him?

If, instead, you want this thread to be about the problem of theodicy...
then I'll dismiss myself since, as some of us might know, there is no answer to this problem.
 

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Are you claiming that:
- Matthew didn't write Matthew?
- Mark didn't write Mark?
- Luke didn't write Luke?
- John didn't write John?

Seems like you are the one obsessed. (ignorant)
Wake up to the truth.


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How could we know who wrote what book?

Are you, like, Bart Ehrman Jr?

WHAT IS THE TRUTH St. SteVen?

I guess you think YOU have the truth.

Most on your threads prefer to believe THE WORD OF GOD.
 
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