Revelation 12 walk through

[TribulationSigns]

Maybe you are not keeping up with how AI is progressing these days and what the end goal might involve? There are some in the know who predict via AI a form of immortality will be achievable at some point. Which then makes perfect sense of-- And in those days shall men seek death, and shall not find it; and shall desire to die, and death shall flee from them. Except you don't want there to be something logical someday that might explain this. You just want the texts to mean anything you want it to mean. Anyone can do that with the texts.

Are you seriously that blind? I’ve already shown, using Scripture itself, how God defines the locusts, grass, green things, trees, scorpions, tails, women’s hair, power, and even death in Revelation 9 — all by comparing Scripture with Scripture. And you think that came from AI? Really?

That’s not just wrong; that’s lazy. What you’re actually doing is plugging your ears to the truth and then blaming a computer for saying what you don’t want to hear. Clever move? No. More like a stupid one.

If you actually did your homework and checked the Bible instead of parroting wild speculation, you’d see exactly where this comes from. But no — it’s easier to cry “AI!” than to face the fact you’ve been caught making things up.

 

[Davy]

Davy, it is that particular translation that you are using that is leading you astray. The 1290 days and 1335 days of Daniel 12:11-12 are longer than 1260 days, right ?

If you start working on making timeline charts, it will help you organize events into their proper order. Are you reluctant because you don't want to take the time and effort to learn how to use a graphics program like Corel Paintshop Pro ? If so, let me say, actually, it can be fun to learn and use.

Nope. The Daniel 7:25 and Daniel 12:7 "time and times and the dividing of time" (or 1260 days), represents the latter HALF of the Daniel 9:27 symbolic "one week" of 7 years.

But you... are trying to falsely ADD the Daniel 12 later 30 days and 45 days to... that Dan.7 and Dan.12:7 declaration that only mentions 1260 days at that point in the prophecy. Yet the latter 30 days and 45 days are about periods AFTER the 1260 days are completed first with Christ's return.

You are forgetting to pay attention to what was asked in Dan.12 before getting to those Dan.12:11-12 verses about the latter 30 days and 45 days that happen AFTER the 1260 days are first completed.

Dan 12:4-7
4 But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, even to the time of the end: many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased.

5 Then I Daniel looked, and, behold, there stood other two, the one on this side of the bank of the river, and the other on that side of the bank of the river.

6 And one said to the man clothed in linen, which was upon the waters of the river, "How long shall it be to the end of these wonders?"

7 And I heard the man clothed in linen, which was upon the waters of the river, when he held up his right hand and his left hand unto heaven, and sware by Him That liveth for ever that it shall be for a time, times, and an half; and when He shall have accomplished to scatter the power of the holy people, all these things shall be finished.
KJV

Jesus' future return happens when that 1260 day period is completed, shown there as that "time, times, and an half", which means 1260 days. It does NOT say 30 days, nor 45 days which only happen after that 1260 days. I find it amazing that you do not seem to be able to separate that latter 30 day period and 45 day period from the 1260 day period that must be completed first.

 

[Davy]

Nope. You’ve completely misunderstood the text.

Not me that has misunderstood the symbolic "woman" of those first two Rev.12 verses. I have already PROVEN IT TOO, by showing those symbols were first written of in the Genesis 37 Chapter! Thus the Biblical proof I have given on that is SOLID. So if you instead want to REJECT what the Bible Scripture shows which I have offered, then fine, but don't make excuses with your FALSE CLAIMS that I don't understand that Rev.12:1-2 Scripture.

The woman of Revelation 12:1 is Covenant Israel—the Bride of all the Elect gathered from both the Old and the New Testaments.

Nope. The "woman" of the first two verses of Rev.12 is about Old Testament Israel under the OLD COVENANT. The old covenant God gave Israel through Moses did not involve Christ's Church, or didn't you know that? Christ had not yet come in the flesh to die on the cross back then to establish The New Covenant Church.

The Rev.12:1-5 verses act as a type of BIBLE SUMMARY:
Rev 12:1-5
12 And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars:

Those above symbols about the "woman" are given in Genesis 37 involving Joseph's dreams. In Joseph's day, that involved only old covenant Israel.

2 And she being with child cried, travailing in birth, and pained to be delivered.

The idea of that Child represents the Seed of the woman of Genesis 3 that Christ would be born through. The first of that lineage was Abel, but then his brother Cain murdered him, and Seth became the replacement for Abel.

3 And there appeared another wonder in heaven; and behold a great red dragon, having seven heads and ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads.
4 And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and did cast them to the earth: and the dragon stood before the woman which was ready to be delivered, for to devour her child as soon as it was born.

Still about old covenant Israel and the Seed which Christ would be born through. That old serpent, the devil, Satan, is who that "dragon" is, as defined in Rev.12:9. Satan first rebelled with a world beast system that had only "seven crowns" mentioned above. That was back before the time of Adam and Eve. Thus the above 3-4 verses are summarizes the devil's original fall in the old world, and his being ready to devour the Seed of the Woman that Christ be born of. And the devil began that with the murder of Abel.

5 And she brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up unto God, and to his throne.
KJV

That symbolic "woman" of Genesis 3 that Christ would be born through, and then it mentions how Christ (the "man child) will rule all nations with His rod of iron, and how Jesus was caught up to God at His death and resurrection.

This is where the SUMMARY specifically about old covenant Israel ends. At Rev.12:6 begins mention of the 1st half of the Dan.9:27 symbolic "one week" for the end of this world. The rest of Rev.12 is also about the time of the end of this world. Thus the symbolic "woman" of Rev.12:17 is about New Covenant Israel, i.e., Christ's Church of both believing Israelite and believing Gentile.

 

[HealthyShape]

Because you are confused about who is the "man child", thinking it is a literal one male child (Christ), you are also confused about who is the woman.

But the whole text is an imagery and also the "man child" is an imagery, like in Isaiah 66:7:

Before she travailed, she brought forth; before her pain came, she was delivered of a man child. Who has ever heard of such things? Who has ever seen things like this? Can a country be born in a day or a nation be brought forth in a moment? Yet no sooner is Zion in labor than she gives birth to her children.

The man child in the prophecy means the faithful people in Jerusalem and the mother is Jerusalem. So also in the Apocalypse.

 

[Davy]

Because you are confused about who is the "man child", thinking it is a literal one child (Christ), you are also confused about who is the woman.

But the "man child" is an imagery, like in Isaiah 66:7:

Before she travailed, she brought forth; before her pain came, she was delivered of a man child. Who has ever heard of such things? Who has ever seen things like this? Can a country be born in a day or a nation be brought forth in a moment? Yet no sooner is Zion in labor than she gives birth to her children.

The man child in the prophecy means the faithful people in Jerusalem and the mother is Jerusalem. So also in the Apocalypse.

Your reasoning is just silliness.

The Rev.12:1-2 symbols define who that first mention of the symbolic "woman" represents. It's about old covenant Israel, NOT Christ's Church.

You left out... the part in Isaiah 66 that God was pointing to Jerusalem with that idea of Rev.12:2.

Isa 66:9-13
9 Shall I bring to the birth, and not cause to bring forth? saith the LORD: shall I cause to bring forth, and shut the womb? saith thy God.

10 Rejoice ye with Jerusalem, and be glad with her, all ye that love her: rejoice for joy with her, all ye that mourn for her:

11 That ye may suck, and be satisfied with the breasts of her consolations; that ye may milk out, and be delighted with the abundance of her glory.

12 For thus saith the LORD, Behold, I will extend peace to her like a river, and the glory of the Gentiles like a flowing stream: then shall ye suck, ye shall be borne upon her sides, and be dandled upon her knees.

13 As one whom his mother comforteth, so will I comfort you; and ye shall be comforted in Jerusalem.
KJV

Thus Isaiah 66 is pointing to old covenant Israel because the above Scripture WON'T BE FULFILLED UNTIL JESUS RETURNS! Or didn't you realize those things in Isaiah 66 God speaks of regarding Old Testament Jerusalem is about the future New Jerusalem? And the New Jerusalem is NOT yet manifest at the timing of the Rev.12:1-2 symbolic "woman" that represent old covenant Israel.

 

[HealthyShape]

Your reasoning is just silliness.

I noticed you have a habit to attack your opponent first, trying to start emotionally and to provoke others to anger. However, it seems to (not just) me you are the most angriest and most bitter poster, frequently.

The Rev.12:1-2 symbols define who that first mention of the symbolic "woman" represents. It's about old covenant Israel, NOT Christ's Church.

The main point of my post is who is the man child. If it is not Christ, then the reading of the whole text changes significantly.

 

[rwb]

(Part 4 - Revelation 12:8-10)

VERSE EIGHT

• "And prevailed not; neither was their place found anymore in heaven".

VERSE NINE

• "And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the devil and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his messengers were cast out with him."

When Christ sent the 70 (the number 70 was representing the fullness or totality of the church) out to witness two by two, and when they returned, He said He saw Satan as lightning fall from heaven (Luke 10:18), THIS is what Revelation 12 is symbolizing. The accuser is cast out! There is no longer a fear of death as the law does not condemn us, and he no longer has power in the Congregation of Israel, the Church. Michael (Christ) and His Messengers (believers) fought against Spirit of Satan and his messengers (Scribes, Pharisees, and all people with them) by the work of the cross. Ultimately, through Christ's death, Satan was cast out and the Lord's army gained the Victory. They go forth Conquering and to conquer, because Christ went forth Conquering and to Conquer and they were risen in Him. They go forth in battle, and overcome not of themselves, but by the blood of Christ. Devils are subject to them through Christ's Power of the cross.

Christ gave us the power to overcome Satan by the Cross alone, and this assured that nothing Satan could do could harm Christians, spiritually. He can physically kill us, have us stoned to death, or fed to the Lions, but ultimately, he has lost and has no power in the Kingdom because his accusations mean nothing because of the work of Christ. He cannot harm us in any way, and certainly not by false Gospel. Again,

Luke 10:18

• "...I beheld Satan as Lightning fall from heaven. Behold I give you power to tred on SERPENTS and SCORPIONS, and over all power of the enemy: and nothing shall by any means hurt you."

Some morons think they want to go out in the desert and handle literal snakes, or think that they can drink literal poison (Mark 16). But that's NOT what is in view. When Mark 16 says we can pick up serpents and not be harmed, and when this verse says we can tred on serpents and scorpions and not be hurt, what is in view is Satan. He is the Serpent that cannot harm us, not a literal snake in the grass. He is the scorpion whose sting in his tail cannot harm us. This is Symbolic language! It is NOT a literal promise that you can't be poisoned or killed by a snake!

This is the symbolism of God's Word, and unless we start listening to God's Word, we're not going to know which way is up as far as interpretation. We will leave ourselves open for any type of deception. But when you get it from the Bible, by the Holy Spirit that tells you it's true, you know that you are on the right track. It was Christ who cast Satan from heaven, and it's through Christ that we have the power over serpents, scorpions, and poisonous drinks. Poisons from the lips of Satan's false Prophets.

And how did these Messengers of Michael overcome Satan and his messengers? We need not speculate; we get it directly from the scriptures there. And scripture tells us:

VERSE TEN

• "And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, now is come Salvation and strength, and the Kingdom of our God, and the power of His Christ: for the accuser of the brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night."

See? The accuser of the brethren is sin. Satan is the essence, the embodiment of sin. But at the cross Michael (Christ) cast down the accuser by purging us from sin, and destroying (making idle or void) Satan who held this fear of death over us (Hebrews. 2:14). We read, NOW has come Salvation and Strength! That was at the Cross! Not in the future, else you are NOT saved! Selah! This was HOW Christ strengthened or confirmed the Covenant in His Blood at the cross (Hebrews 9:17). That was when Satan was cast down. That was when Salvation came. Who did it? Of course, Christ! He is Michael, the Chief Messenger of that Covenant. This verse tells us how the victory was achieved. Now is Come the Kingdom..

Consider wisely the significance of what Jesus told the people when He cast out Satan from a man and said the Kingdom had come. It was an illustration that This "indeed" was the Messenger of the Covenant promised, and indeed the Kingdom Had come, and He indeed would bind satan and deliver those held captive by Him. Consider wisely:

Matthew 12:26-30

• "And if Satan cast outSatan, he is divided against himself; how shall then his kingdom stand?
• And if I by Beelzebub cast out devils, by whom do your children cast them out? therefore they shall be your judges.
• But if I cast out devils by the Spirit of God, then The Kingdom of God is come unto you.
• Or else how can one enter into a strong man's house, and spoil his goods, except he first bind the strong man? and then he will spoil his house.
• He that is not with me is against me; and he that gathereth not with me scattereth abroad".

That tells it all!!!! The strong man is Satan, He who came to spoil (take by right of conquest) his house is Christ, but note God says FIRST He (Christ) had to bind Satan. Then he could spoil or take his possessions. That's what Christ did to satan by the Cross. Bound him, made him void, destroyed him that he could deliver his captivity and set them free from bondage. And Matthew 12:30 goes right on in the same vein of those with Christ and against him. Either his army fighting with Him, or those fighting against Him. we note also Christ says "if" he by God casts out Satan, then the Kingdom of God has come unto you. Again, just as we read in Revelation chapter 12. Now is come the Kingdom and Salvation because "the accuser of the brethren", Satan, is cast down. He is bound that he cannot hurt us. This is the same picture God is painting here in matthew 12.

The Kingdom has now come, it is within us as Christ is within us (luke 17:12) and Satan is cast out (just as jesus cast the Devil out in matthew 12 and said all these things). Satan has no power in "THIS" Kingdom because he was defeated by Christ's death and it's a more perfect Kingdom. Not of this world, but a spiritual Kingdom with us (Christ's messengers) as those with power over Satan.

Douggg's so-called future 1,000 millennial kingdom is nonsense!

(Part Five - Revelation 12:11 Coming soon! Stay tuned!)

Excellent understanding TS!

 

[rwb]

(Part Five - Revelation 12:11-12)

Revelation 12:11 reads:

• "And they overcame him by the blood of the lamb, and by the word of their testimony, and they loved not their lives unto the death."

The Church, the Messengers of Michael overcame Satan how? By the Blood of Christ, and by the WORD of their testimony, and they loved not their lives even unto death. ..EVEN UNTO DEATH!

Study these verses carefully and you will see that it seamlessly moves from Michael defeating Satan to Christ defeating Satan, and from Michael's messengers prevailing, to Christ's messengers prevailing. The reason is because Michael is the Christ, and He is the one who cast Satan (and his messengers) from the Kingdom therefore believers in Him prevail. The fallen messengers with satan are those who were cut off at the cross. Christ, The Son of the Living God defeated Satan and his messengers, and they both were cast out of the kingdom of Heaven and the Kingdom given to another (see matthew 8:10-12 carefully). Those who Jesus said were of their father the Devil and his will they would do, are the messengers of the Dragon. And those whom Jesus referred to in matthew saying that the Children of the Kingdom would be cast out, are those who fought with Satan against Him. That is the kingdom which suffereth violence and the violent take it by force (Matthew 11:12). these are the messengers cast out with satan. They are the blinded of Israel. They are the fallen messengers of the Old Covenant who are blinded except for the remnant. This is the Spiritual battle fought at the cross. Satan fought and lost, and his house was spoiled. Christ said, "Behold your house is left unto you desolate when referring to these messengers. And as for satan their accuser, he no longer can accuse the brethren because they are no longer of his household, under the bondage of sin. Christ cast Satan out of the Kingdom of God and made it so we could be set free from captivity there. Consider:

Matthew 12:29

• or else how can one enter into a strong man's house and spoil his goods, except he first Bind the strong man? and then He will spoil his goods".

Israel did not understand that they were in bondage, in servitude to sin by being under satan's captivity. they looked at themselves as free. They understood not that the only way that they would abide in the House of God forever, is to abide in the son of God who abides forever.

John 8:32-36

• "And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.
• They answered him, We be Abraham's seed, and were never in bondage to any man: how sayest thou, Ye shall be made free?
• Jesus answered them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Whosoever committeth sin is the servant of sin.
• And the servant abideth not in the house for ever: but the Son abideth ever.
• If the Son therefore shall make you free, ye shall be free indeed.

When Christ bound satan so he could spoil the captivity, he cast out satan from the Kingdom of heaven and set men free. As he said, if he cast out by God, the Kingdom of God had come. Christ did cast out devils by the Spirit of God, and so the kingdom of God had indeed come unto them. And He was the one who spoiled (took by right of conquest) the property of Satan. Those goods were you and I who the accuser Satan held in bondage and as servants to sin. But note: that Jesus tells them in Matthew 12, First Satan had to be bound! For example, Satan was bound at the cross in order that Christ could spoil his house. By the cross is devils cast out and the accuser can no longer make accusation of us because of sin. For sin has been washed away in His blood. Because of the work of Christ sin has been paid for that now is come Salvation and the kingdom of our God! Without the accuser being in it as the kingdom is within us! Sin cannot condemn us anymore. No serpent can strike us anymore, nor hurt us anymore. We overcame him by the blood of the lamb. That is the marvelous symbolism here in Revelation 12:11!

Selah!

Next Revelation 12:12 says:

• "Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe unto the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time."

The earth and sea is symbolic of the world. Just as Ships are symbolic of the Church in the world or as when Jesus said, I will make you fishers of men. The fish were men in the sea (world). Our Job as Christians is to go fishing for them. By no stretch of the imagination was God talking about literal fish or sea creatures when He said "Woe unto the inhibitors of the sea". Again, the inhabitors of the sea is a symbolic term for people of the world. The Devil is cast out of the Kingdom of heaven, and he has great wrath, and it's woe unto those messengers cast out with him to inhabit the sea/earth (world). For they have been "cut off" and will perish in the earth and in the sea. Though Satan is bound for the kingdom of Heaven's sake, for the world, he goes about as a roaring lion seeking whom he may devour (1st peter 5:8). 2/3 have been cut off, 1/3rd has been brought through the fire and purified. Satan knows the time is short. The wrath of satan is revealed in those cut off to inhabit the earth. Woe unto those people, for they will die in their sins. This symbolism can be seen in passages such as Matthew chapter 8 as Jesus comes upon "2" men possessed with devils and heals them (They are illustrative of the church before we are saved). And we read:

Matthew 8:29-31

• "And, behold, they cried out, saying, what have we to do with thee, Jesus, Thou Son of God? art thou come hither to torment us before the time?
• and there was a good way off from them a herd of many swine feeding. So the Devils besought Him, saying, If thou cast us out, suffer us to go away into the herd of swine.
• and He said unto them, Go, and when they were come out, they went into the herd of swine; and behold, the whole herd of swine ran violently down a steep place into the sea, and perished in the waters."

A careful demonstration of what happens when Satan is cast out. It's Glorious for the two men who are set free, but it's woe to those of the swine of the earth who he is allowed to go into. Swine and Dogs are symbolic of those opposed to the gospel, as in the scripture, "Cast not your pearls before swine". Woe unto these, because Satan inhabits them with wrath, and they perish in the sea. And note that the devils say to Jesus in Matthew 8:29, "Have you come to torment us before the time?" You see, they know what time it is. This is what Revelation 12:12 is illustrating when it says Satan knows that he hath but a short time, and it's woe to the inhabitors of the sea!

Selah!

(Part Six Revelation 12:13-16 coming next!)

I plan to copy your replies here TS, because my memory is not what it used to be and I believe you have presented excellent biblical understanding here. Thank you!

 

[TribulationSigns]

Excellent understanding TS!

To the glory of God.

 

[TribulationSigns]

I plan to copy your replies here TS, because my memory is not what it used to be and I believe you have presented excellent biblical understanding here. Thank you!

Do you want me to finish part six - Revelaton 12:16-17. I think I have briefly explained verse 16.

 

[rwb]

Do you want me to finish part six - Revelation 12:16-17. I think I have briefly explained verse 16.

Absolutely! Look forward to reading. Thanks again!

 

[TribulationSigns]

Absolutely! Look forward to reading. Thanks again!

OK I’ll do it later. I’m out for most of the day.

 

[Douggg]

The Daniel 7:25 and Daniel 12:7 "time and times and the dividing of time" (or 1260 days), represents the latter HALF of the Daniel 9:27 symbolic "one week" of 7 years.

Correct. But that does not change that 1290 days and the 1335 days all happen within the 7 years as well.

You are forgetting to pay attention to what was asked in Dan.12 before getting to those Dan.12:11-12 verses about the latter 30 days and 45 days that happen AFTER the 1260 days are first completed.

No, the 30 days and 45 don't continue after the 1260 days (end of the 7 years). Jesus is not going to allow for the abomination of desolation statue image of the beast-king to remain standing after He returns.

Also that statue image - that will breathe and speak (Revelation 13:15) will be because Satan with indwell it in order that people will worship him (perhaps unknowingly).

The statue image will be turned to ashes when Jesus returns. Exposing Satan there on the temple mount, fully visible.

 

[Davy]

Correct. But that does not change that 1290 days and the 1335 days all happen within the 7 years as well.

The two 1260 days periods that make up the Dan.9:27 "one week" doesn't have to change anything. The latter 30 day period, and 45 day period at the end of Dan.12 are their 'own' time periods that happen AFTER the two 1260 day periods.

This is so easy to know, simply because if you try to add the first 1260 day period of the "one week", and a 1290 days, or 1335 days, you won't come up with the correct sum for the "one week" of 7 years. The "one week" represents 7 years, or two 1260 day periods, and that's it. You cannot... try and squeeze in the 30 days, or 45 days of Dan.12 into that "one week". The "one week" is what it is.

 

[Bladerunner]

Davy, you had said that the abomination of desolation would be set up on the exact midpoint of the 7 years of Daniel 9:27.

I pointed out that the problem with that position is it would mean that the abomination of desolation statue image would still be standing on the temple mount 30 to 45 days after Jesus has returned. Something that Jesus would not allow.

So your exact midpoint position is incorrect.



I show the time, times, and half time of Daniel 12:7 as being the second half of the 7 years on my chart. The time, times, half time end the day of Jesus's return. As do the 1335 days of Daniel 12:12 end the day of Jesus's return.

doug your timing is all wrong. Davy has the right course.1 Half of the tribulation is between the 6 and 7th Trumpet Judgement or Rev 12...Rem, in Mat 24:15-21 where Jesus speaks of the Abomination of Desolate and the people should flee Judiah. Read, Rev. 12 where the woman is fleeing..This represents the remnant of Israel, the true believing Jews for they remembered Matthews words in chapter 24. The Great Tribulation that Jesus speaks of is called Jacob's troubles and it will be during the last 3.5 years, 42 months of Daniel's 70th week. Jesus has not returned until chapter 19. Rem, Revelation is Chronologically written...The outline of the entire book is, John is to write, what was , what is and what is to come...CHapter 1 is what was...Jesus in the midst of the churches on earth before His crucifixion. Rem John is writing Revelation in 96 AD. So.......Chapter 2,3 are what is...John is seeing the seven churches as they are in real time...and chapter 4 through 18 with a summary and the return on Jesus Christ to earth for judgement, Chapter 19. chapters 20,21,22 continue as the millennium on earth is setup and ended and the great white throne judgement is over.

 

[Douggg]

This is so easy to know, simply because if you try to add the first 1260 day period of the "one week", and a 1290 days, or 1335 days, you won't come up with the correct sum for the "one week" of 7 years. The "one week" represents 7 years, or two 1260 day periods, and that's it. You cannot... try and squeeze in the 30 days, or 45 days of Dan.12 into that "one week". The "one week" is what it is.

Davy, the 7 years is 2520 days total long.

The abomination of desolation statue image will be set up on day 1185 of the 2520 day long 7 years.

day 1185 + 1335 days = 2520 days.

 

[Douggg]

in Mat 24:15-21 where Jesus speaks of the Abomination of Desolate and the people should flee Judiah.

Jesus referred to Daniel the prophet concerning the abomination of desolation.

Daniel 12:
11 And from the time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away, and the abomination that maketh desolate set up, there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days.-
12 Blessed is he that waiteth, and cometh to the thousand three hundred and five and thirty days.

Simply subtract 1335 days from day 2520 (the end of the 7 years when Jesus returns). The result is that the abomination of desolation will be set up on day 1185 of the 2520 day 7 years.

 

[Bladerunner]

Davy, the 7 years is 2520 days total long.

The abomination of desolation statue image will be set up on day 1185 of the 2520 day long 7 years.

day 1185 + 1335 days = 2520 days.

Gentlemen, the extra days that Daniel in chapters 11,12 gives are to be added to the 7years, 42 months, time, times and half-time, etc...These extra days will be the time between His second coming and the beginning of the millennium. The Sheep and Goat Judgements will take place during this time among other things the Bible does not specify that must take place. Daniel's 70th week is 7 years long and the last battle of Armageddon will end the 7 years.

 

[Davy]

Davy, the 7 years is 2520 days total long.

Yeah, and that means ONLY two each 1260 day periods. (1260 + 1260 = 2520)

What do you get as the Sum when you add the latter 30 day period of Dan.12 onto that latter 1260 days? 1260 + 1260 + 30 = 2550 days. That Sum leaves... what the Daniel 9:27 prophetic "one week" of 7 years represents.

The abomination of desolation statue image will be set up on day 1185 of the 2520 day long 7 years.

day 1185 + 1335 days = 2520 days.

Nope. It will be setup immediately after the 1st 1260 day period is complete.

And when the "abomination of desolation" is placed in Jerusalem, at that moment starts the latter 1260 day period which is when the "great tribulation" will take place.

Then immediately after... that latter 1260 day period ends, with God's "two witnesses" rising in the street and the 7th Trumpet sounding, that is when Jesus returns to gather His faithful Church that will have waited for Him.

 

[Douggg]

Gentlemen, the extra days that Daniel in chapters 11,12 gives are to be added to the 7years, 42 months, time, times and half-time, etc.

The abomination of desolation statue image will be placed on the temple mount and will become animated that it speaks and breathes. It will demand worship.

Jesus is not going to although that sort blasphemous activity to go on for 45 days after He returns.