Charlie Kirk assassinated in Utah

[Muna]

I don't know.

Me neither

But what I do know is that she is implying that the Israeli government had something to do with his death.

Maybe, or maybe not, I do not know either, but gathering the facts and speaking about some of the surrounding circumstances to get the whole picture is a good thing.

Likely to draw more viewers to her channel.

It's drawn me because I want to know about some of the things she is laying out. You will naturally gather to the kind of information you are seeking on any given thing.

I think when people want to know about things the other channels might neglect there will always be someone willing to take that on and those who will give it an ear, and thats a good thing.

Alex Jones did this for years.

People who tell the truth and tell lies will draw a following

He was later forced to admit in court that he "plays a character" on his show.

I cannot chase down every accusation and I refuse to agree together against a person or accuse people without proofs but I also don't want to get involved with chasing down links and going through video after video.
So AI is just handy for me in things I could care less about, and so this is what it says,

Alex Jones did not fully admit to playing a character, but his attorney, Randall Wilhite, stated during a 2017 custody battle that Jones was "playing a character" and described him as a "performance artist". This claim was made in the context of arguing that Jones's on-air persona should not be used to judge his fitness as a parent, with Wilhite comparing it to judging Jack Nicholson based on his role as the Joker in Batman.

While Jones denied on his show that he was playing a character—calling his program "the most bona fide, hard-core, real McCoy thing there is" —he later clarified in court that he generally agreed with his attorney's statement, though he disagreed with how the media interpreted the term "performance artist". Therefore, while Jones did not openly admit to performing as a fictional character, he acknowledged the "performance art" framing in a legal context, even as he maintained the authenticity of his message

I prefer to stick to the facts, and ignore unsubstantiated conspiracy theories or hearsay.

Me too, and so do police whenever investigating a crime, but as AI points out

Police often have to theorize and reconstruct the sequence of events when investigating a crime, especially when direct evidence is limited. This process involves developing hypotheses about how a crime occurred based on physical evidence, witness statements, and other available information. The investigation may require piecing together disparate facts to form a coherent narrative of the incident.

This reconstruction is a standard part of criminal investigations, as many crimes are not witnessed directly, and the full picture may not be immediately apparent. The complexity of crime, including the fact that many crimes go unreported (a phenomenon known as the "dark figure of crime" , and that crime data can be inconsistent or incomplete , further necessitates careful analysis and theorizing by law enforcement. The process is not merely speculative; it is guided by evidence and logical reasoning to determine the most plausible explanation for how the crime unfolded.

Good to keep in mind while something is unfolding

 

[PS95]

I don't know. But what I do know is that she is implying that the Israeli government had something to do with his death. Likely to draw more viewers to her channel. Alex Jones did this for years. He was later forced to admit in court that he "plays a character" on his show.

I prefer to stick to the facts, and ignore unsubstantiated conspiracy theories or hearsay.

Yes, she is absolutely strongly insinuating Israel- Netanyahu and Ackerman. I do understand why there are questions-and I understand even a possible motive- considering Charlie being upset recently, BUT she needs evidence. - good luck with that!

Her latest two lies trouble me. Those both seemed like an axe to grind.

 

[Muna]

Verily verily i say unto thee , beware the image that speaks .

It has no image yet, but I am warry of men (who also have images and speak both truth and lies)

Soon
Soon i say
And at any moment it could slam home upon us all . The beloved digital system so many are fast to fall in love with
and its king AI , will on that day and in that hour Complete the works of its father . And no sir that father wil not be capitilized .
Trust not in man
trust not in AI and machine ,
trust not in the digital system or its all inclusive love god . Just a friendly reminder my friend .

Just as you can cross check a man you can cross check an AI

 

[amigo de christo]

It has no image yet, but I am warry of men (who also have images and speak both truth and lies)

Just as you can cross check a man you can cross check an AI

Oh i know my friend . Just reminding us . For truly truly , or verily verily i say unto thee
THIS WORLD is fast running out of time .
And they all run and they all merge under the solution of anti christ believing this is the way
TO peace and safety .
BUT the dead know not , OH NOT IT AINT
its the way to SUDDEN DESTRUCTION that shall come upon them all BY THE VERY GOD AND LORD JESUS
who their ecumincal pile of dung interfaith DENIED .

 

[amigo de christo]

It has no image yet, but I am warry of men (who also have images and speak both truth and lies)

Just as you can cross check a man you can cross check an AI

Has anyone bothered to even ask themselves
WHY it now is so silent on the streets .
WHY we dont see couples and small groups going out , LIKE THEY USED to
and preaching CHRIST JESUS like they used too .
Because for the last twenty or so years THE CHURCH GOT REPROGRAMMED about HOW to evangelize .
EXACTLY .
THE GOSPEL GOT SILENCED and now its all about community builders . WE GOT DUPED folks .
And soon when this ecumincal WHORE is done with her love message
GUESS who they willl come for then . THOSE dangerous ones who would not conform
but stayed RIGHT UNDER JESUS and preached ONLY HIM as the means to be saved and that one HAD TO BELEIVE .
First they silence the gospel by changing evangelism
NEXT STEP
convince the world come against such dangerous fundamentals that just keep on keeping on with the true gospel and wont shut up
about it . OH ITS coming verily . FEAR THEM NOT , FEAR IT NOT .
Preach JESUS . OUR end is GOOD MY FRIEND . they can kill our body
BUT JESUS HAS OUR SOUL . amen and praise the LORD . PREACH JESUS till the last breath my friend .

 

[amigo de christo]

How long is this people gonna continue to be entertained by the dog and pony show
They all use to decieve us all .
If anyone in here THINKS and BELEIVES that the elites who RUN this show
on both sides , REALLY cares about ya ,
THEN THAT IS DECEPTOIN . they do not care about me , they dont care about you either .
They use people to prepare this world RIGHT INTO the very snare and into this so called utopain paradise
kingdom . BUT mark my words
that kingdom wont bode well for the peoples THEN . THE IRON YOKE COMETH and prepare to groan
for ye reap what ye sow . And he sows to men and hopes in men , CURSED be that man .

 

[PS95]

I cross checked the same with AI and it states the following on both accounts

Yes, Eric Bolling stated that Charlie Kirk and Candace Owens had not communicated in years. He mentioned that while they were close a decade ago through their work at Turning Point USA, they "had a break-up" because Owens' theories became too extreme, and there "hasn’t been a communication pipeline between the two for many years". Bolling, a TPUSA board member, also noted that Kirk quietly cut ties with Owens after she veered into conspiracy theories and that he had not seen her in person since around 2015 or 2016.
AI-generated answer. Please verify critical facts.

And again I cross checked this with AI here

Candace Owens continued to appear at Turning Point USA (TPUSA) events as a guest speaker as recently as 2024, despite no longer holding a formal position with the organization after her tenure as communications director ended in 2019. While specific details of joint appearances with Charlie Kirk in the last two years are not provided in the sources, her participation in TPUSA events as recently as 2024 indicates she was still publicly associated with the organization he led. However, Eric Bolling, a TPUSA advisory board member, claimed there had been no active communication between Kirk and Owens for many years due to her views becoming too extreme for the organization's taste, though he acknowledged Kirk maintained a cordial friendship with her. A spokesperson for TPUSA stated that "Charlie and Candace remained friends" up until his death


His wife Erika is holding up a rosary after his death

But I cannot comment on the bickerings back and forth between these online hosts, but I really love Candaces reporting.

I have seen her defend Jews, even one that might be considered despicable (names Harvey Weinstein) and than there is that other Jewish man Justin Baldoni, and has stated she has close Jewish freinds, including Dave Smith, who is also a Jew (critical of Israel) in fact I believe it was him that helped open her eyes to some of the atrocities that she has been made aware of and who began to change her mind, that and being pressured to hold no other view than what was scripted for her, and that I can understand, the same has been experienced more recently by Tucker, Megyn Kelly and Charlie as well as others.

I see no problem with them having a problem with the things they have pointed out though.

Hmm Interesting. It's hard to imagine how Charlie overcame his list of disagreements with the RCC that quickly. I dont think he became catholic--- This was from July 2025-

 

[amigo de christo]

Hmm Interesting. It's hard to imagine how Charlie overcame his list of disagreements with the RCC that quickly. This was from July 2025-

Tis what happens when you get ON that ol ecumincal train ride .
WE need to get OFF that train fast my friend . have no part in it . expose it all and let us preach JESUS

 

[Muna]

Hmm Interesting. It's hard to imagine how Charlie overcame his list of disagreements with the RCC that quickly. I dont think he became catholic--- This was from July 2025-

I have already seen this, even as AI points the same out

Yes, Charlie Kirk was reportedly considering becoming Catholic shortly before his death. According to Robert Brennan, a writer and brother of Bishop Joseph Brennan of Fresno, Kirk had a personal conversation with the bishop about a week before his assassination on September 10, 2025, during which he expressed serious interest in converting. Kirk, who was an evangelical Christian, told the bishop he was “this close” to becoming Catholic. He had been attending Mass with his Catholic wife and children and discussed his family's faith life with the prelate.

Kirk had also spoken publicly about his respect for Catholicism, acknowledging disagreements but stating that Protestants “under-value” the Blessed Mother and that “we don’t talk about Mary enough. We don’t venerate her enough”. In a prior interview, he mentioned being open-minded about Catholicism, saying, “I go to Catholic Mass every once in a while. I don’t take the Eucharist…but I’m open-minded, but I’m not there yet”. Some reports and social media accounts indicated he had recently been attending Mass at St. Bernadette Catholic Church in Scottsdale, Arizona , and a Reddit user from the same diocese claimed Kirk was working with a parish priest on his conversion. However, he had not formally entered the Catholic Church before his death

Why does that not read, according to Candace Owens?

So why blame Candace if she could have also been informed by the brother of this Bishop concerning Charlie Kirk opening up to Catholicism (regardless of the video). Or per chance that Charlie was opening up to the conversation (given Candaces conversion to Catholicism) having perhaps laid down some of his former anomosity towards certain things (as Protestaent) and had simply become more reasonable (as we see on the video) even though he maintains his other posistions against it? At least being vocal that perhaps Protestants went too far to the other end of the spectrum concerning Mary and maybe Candace simply read into his openess as coming around, afterall his wife Erika was pictured quite a few times holding a Rosary the entire time at the airport.

So I really dont get trying to pin Candace to a wall over something like that, that just seems a little off to me to do that.

Doesn't change my desire to watch her channel daily, I actually love her work.

 

[Riven]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1969055087185006989

 

[Muna]

Maybe they are being obedient to their lobbys

 

[PS95]

I cross checked the same with AI and it states the following on both accounts

Yes, Eric Bolling stated that Charlie Kirk and Candace Owens had not communicated in years. He mentioned that while they were close a decade ago through their work at Turning Point USA, they "had a break-up" because Owens' theories became too extreme, and there "hasn’t been a communication pipeline between the two for many years". Bolling, a TPUSA board member, also noted that Kirk quietly cut ties with Owens after she veered into conspiracy theories and that he had not seen her in person since around 2015 or 2016.
AI-generated answer. Please verify critical facts.

And again I cross checked this with AI here

Candace Owens continued to appear at Turning Point USA (TPUSA) events as a guest speaker as recently as 2024, despite no longer holding a formal position with the organization after her tenure as communications director ended in 2019. While specific details of joint appearances with Charlie Kirk in the last two years are not provided in the sources, her participation in TPUSA events as recently as 2024 indicates she was still publicly associated with the organization he led. However, Eric Bolling, a TPUSA advisory board member, claimed there had been no active communication between Kirk and Owens for many years due to her views becoming too extreme for the organization's taste, though he acknowledged Kirk maintained a cordial friendship with her. A spokesperson for TPUSA stated that "Charlie and Candace remained friends" up until his death

What Eric Bolling said is NOT the same as what Candace said- did you listen to this? @18 min-- watch all of it if you can-

His wife Erika is holding up a rosary after his death

So what- She was baptized catholic- they did know their local priest and were friendly. Charlie spoke about that. --but Charlie's video about the RCC speaks volumes only 1.5 month ago

But I cannot comment on the bickerings back and forth between these online hosts, but I really love Candaces reporting.

I have seen her defend Jews, even one that might be considered despicable (names Harvey Weinstein) and than there is that other Jewish man Justin Baldoni, and has stated she has close Jewish freinds, including Dave Smith, who is also a Jew (critical of Israel) in fact I believe it was him that helped open her eyes to some of the atrocities that she has been made aware of and who began to change her mind, that and being pressured to hold no other view than what was scripted for her, and that I can understand, the same has been experienced more recently by Tucker, Megyn Kelly and Charlie as well as others.

I see no problem with them having a problem with the things they have pointed out though.

I only know that she has lied twice very recently and that matters,.,..that goes to her character.

 

[Muna]

What Eric Bolling said is NOT the same as what Candace said- did you listen to this? @18 min-- watch all of it if you can-

So what- She was baptized catholic- they did know their local priest and were friendly. Charlie spoke about that. --but Charlie's video about the RCC speaks volumes only 1.5 month ago


I only know that she has lied twice very recently and that matters,.,..that goes to her character.

I am not going to go back and forth with you on this.

 

[Riven]

If threats were made, that would be huge. But again, it's all hearsay.

 

[PS95]

I am not going to go back and forth with you on this.

Maybe I missed something you said..? There is a fine distinction from what i can see.
She claims he said there was no relationship anymore-"a Break up"-- but that's not what Erik said.-
He said they were super close, but after she went a bit conspiracy minded it put a strain on the relationship and while he was still very courteous they were no longer so close.

Yes she was on his show once last year- but that fits in with being cordial. He had people on his shows all the time that he didn't agree with.
Have you seen where she is speaking about who will take over for Charlie with absolute hatred?
That would have been her job if she still worked at tpusa, so they say.

I think Erika would be the person to know all of this...but the poor thing- pray for her..

 

[PS95]

If threats were made, that would be huge. But again, it's all hearsay.

Apparently, he had death threats constantly.

 

[Muna]

Maybe I missed something you said..? There is a fine distinction from what i can see.
She claims he said there was no relationship anymore-"a Break up"-- but that's not what Erik said.-
He said they were super close, but after she went a bit conspiracy minded it put a strain on the relationship and while he was still very courteous they were no longer so close.

Yes she was on his show once last year- but that fits in with being cordial. He had people on his shows all the time that he didn't agree with.
Have you seen where she is speaking about who will take over for Charlie with absolute hatred?
That would have been her job if she still worked at tpusa, so they say.

I think Erika would be the person to know all of this...but the poor thing- pray for her..

I am not tuning into these peoples back and forths.

I only know what Candace said concerning the only two people could stop her from speaking any more on the matter, the one would be her own husband and the other Erika Kirk, and since she is still continuing, it looks like Erika hasn't told her to cease.

On another note, she typically does not do Friday podcasts, but she did today, and played the Erik bolling clip at around the 25 minute mark to around 31 minute mark

She had also mentioned in that same video she is not interested in being under donors and someone purchasing her voice, because when you have someone on (as Charlie had Tucker on) they pulled 2 million dollars from TPUSA, so they do not give as unto charity, they "buy your voice" (if it can be bought). This was also discussed between Megyn and Tucker concerning what Charlie told them

I am not a big fan of the hate speech thing, its often just speech other people hate.

Jesus words would be considred hate speech

 

[Riven]

Apparently, he had death threats constantly.

Right, but I'm talking about threats of blackmail at the meeting that took place. I don't see any evidence for threats coming from the Israeli side.

 

[Muna]

Right, but I'm talking about threats of blackmail at the meeting that took place. I don't see any evidence for threats coming from the Israeli side.

How would anyone see it if we werent there?

The rumors which surround Charlie Kirk being pressured and threatened was there too, but he is dead so he can't speak anyway. He had left some interviews after the fact though.

 

[PS95]

I am not tuning into these peoples back and forths.

I only know what Candace said concerning the only two people could stop her from speaking any more on the matter, the one would be her own husband and the other Erika Kirk, and since she is still continuing, it looks like Erika hasn't told her to cease.

I doubt that Erika is paying much attention to the internet now. Her life has been devastated.



Candace "resigned" from tpusa after blowback from members & from supporters of the organization calling for her to step down from a comment she made about Hitler. He resignation was online but has been removed.. She said this--
"In many ways, today feels like a graduation!"
There HAD to have been some hard feelings for her to say that. -
Just one letter from tpusa campus in CO
“Turning Point USA is above this thoughtless and divisive rhetoric, and as Chapters, Presidents, and Leaders of Turning Point USA, we will no longer stand idly by as they continue,” they wrote in a statement. “We don’t believe Candace Owens to be the most effective representation for Turning Point USA, as Communications Director or otherwise.
Charlie personally hired here- who do you think fired her?

There is more to the story than this cozy best friend relationship.. --- Charlie remained courteous as was his nature.

On another note, she typically does not do Friday podcasts, but she did today, and played the Erik bolling clip at around the 25 minute mark to around 31 minute mark

ugh a clip? I don't feel like listening to her anymore. I heard what exactly Erik said in the video I gave you. He spoke for some time about it. The whole video was about her.

She had also mentioned in that same video she is not interested in being under donors and someone purchasing her voice, because when you have someone on (as Charlie had Tucker on) they pulled 2 million dollars from TPUSA, so they do not give as unto charity, they "buy your voice" (if it can be bought). This was also discussed between Megyn and Tucker concerning what Charlie told them

She sure wont have to worry about it.
The Megyn/Charlie video is disturbing. We have seen that behavior on this very forum!

I am not a big fan of the hate speech thing, its often just speech other people hate.

Jesus words would be considred hate speech

hate speech? I don't use that term. I am totally pro 1st Amendment.
I said She was full of hatred.
I think she was referring to Ben Shapiro as taking Charlie's job (which I doubt).- she hates him. If you cant see that in her video... then.. lol?