Go and Sin no more...is this possible?

[shepherdsword]

We have Jesus tell at least two different people to "go, and sin no more" Did he mean it? Is it possible?

Jn 5:14 Afterward Jesus findeth him in the temple, and said unto him, Behold, thou art made whole: sin no more, lest a worse thing come unto thee.

Jn 8:11 She said, No man, Lord. And Jesus said unto her, Neither do I condemn thee: go, and sin no more.

Thoughts?

 

[Lambano]

He also told a rich young aristocrat (and the context was full obedience to God)...

 

[marks]

We have Jesus tell at least two different people to "go, and sin no more" Did he mean it? Is it possible?

Jn 5:14 Afterward Jesus findeth him in the temple, and said unto him, Behold, thou art made whole: sin no more, lest a worse thing come unto thee.

Jn 8:11 She said, No man, Lord. And Jesus said unto her, Neither do I condemn thee: go, and sin no more.

Thoughts?

Why not?

Ephesians 4:21-32 KJV
21) If so be that ye have heard him, and have been taught by him, as the truth is in Jesus:
22) That ye put off concerning the former conversation the old man, which is corrupt according to the deceitful lusts;
23) And be renewed in the spirit of your mind;
24) And that ye put on the new man, which after God is created in righteousness and true holiness.
25) Wherefore putting away lying, speak every man truth with his neighbour: for we are members one of another.
26) Be ye angry, and sin not: let not the sun go down upon your wrath:
27) Neither give place to the devil.
28) Let him that stole steal no more: but rather let him labour, working with his hands the thing which is good, that he may have to give to him that needeth.
29) Let no corrupt communication proceed out of your mouth, but that which is good to the use of edifying, that it may minister grace unto the hearers.
30) And grieve not the holy Spirit of God, whereby ye are sealed unto the day of redemption.
31) Let all bitterness, and wrath, and anger, and clamour, and evil speaking, be put away from you, with all malice:
32) And be ye kind one to another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another, even as God for Christ's sake hath forgiven you.

Living in love for others and trusting in Jesus releases us to serve our Lord with singleness. I challenge everyone to fill your mind with praise and prayer and Scripture, while doing what is good that is in front of you to be done, trusting Jesus to lead you in His works, and in freedom.

Do this for 1 minute . . . 5 minutes . . . 1 hour . . . 1 day . . . whenever anything interrupts this, as quickly as you become aware of such, just return in your mind to praise and prayer and Scripture, knowing completely that God loves you, has forgiven you, that you are evermore reconciled to Him through Jesus Christ, and there is no impediment to your having communion with Him.

And the longer you do this, the longer times you will remain walking in His Spirit, as you are being transformed by the renewing of your mind.

Much love!

 

[Muna]

Peter speaks of those who cannot cease from sin also

2 Peter 2:14 Having eyes full of adultery, and that cannot cease from sin; beguiling unstable souls: an heart they have exercised with covetous practices; cursed children

Paul also tells us not to sin

1 Cr 15:24 Awake to righteousness, and sin not; for some have not the knowledge of God: I speak this to your shame.

The general rule is no, "that ye sin not"

1 John 2:1 My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not.

Next verse

And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous

Sinning wilfully is spoken of here

Hebrews 10:26 For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins

Jesus words, "Lest a worse thing come unto thee" follows here

Heb 10:27 But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries.

There even shown a difference between willfully sinning (where there remaineth not sacrifice for sins) and sinning in ignorance, for example here (one of a few)

Numbers 15:25 And the priest shall make an atonement for all the congregation of the children of Israel, and it shall be forgiven them; for it is ignorance

 

[quietthinker]

We have Jesus tell at least two different people to "go, and sin no more" Did he mean it? Is it possible?

Jn 5:14 Afterward Jesus findeth him in the temple, and said unto him, Behold, thou art made whole: sin no more, lest a worse thing come unto thee.

Jn 8:11 She said, No man, Lord. And Jesus said unto her, Neither do I condemn thee: go, and sin no more.

Thoughts?

How does one define sin? Isn't it anything which harms relationship?

 

[FaithWillDo]

We have Jesus tell at least two different people to "go, and sin no more" Did he mean it? Is it possible?

Jn 5:14 Afterward Jesus findeth him in the temple, and said unto him, Behold, thou art made whole: sin no more, lest a worse thing come unto thee.

Jn 8:11 She said, No man, Lord. And Jesus said unto her, Neither do I condemn thee: go, and sin no more.

Thoughts?

Dear shepherdsword,
The "sin' that Christ mentions in the two verses that you quoted is the sin of mixing of works with faith. Christ is not referring to ALL sins in those two verses.

When a babe in Christ mixes their own works with faith, they are committing the one and only sin that leads to death.

This verse applies:

Prov 23:26 My son, give me thine heart, and let thine eyes observe my ways. 27 For a whore is a deep ditch; and a strange woman is a narrow pit. 28 She also lieth in wait as for a prey, and increases the transgressors among men. 29 Who hath woe? who hath sorrow? who hath contentions? who hath babbling? who hath wounds without cause? who hath redness of eyes? 30 They that tarry long at the wine; they that go to seek mixed wine. 31 Look not thou upon the wine when it is red (Old Wine), when it giveth his color in the cup, when it moves itself (man’s works) aright. 32 At the last it bites like a serpent, and stings like an adder.

In the wine analogy used by Christ in His spiritual teachings, the Old Wine (red) represents the Old Covenant and the New Wine represents the New Covenant.

The Old Covenant is based solely upon the works of man to make a person acceptable to God. In contrast, the New Covenant is based solely upon the works of Christ (both His physical and spiritual works) by which He will make a person acceptable to God.

When a babe begins mixing in their own works with the works of Christ, they are saying that the works of Christ are not sufficient to save them. When a babe accepts this lie, they are following the crooked way of Satan rather than the straight way of Christ. This is the “sin that leads to death” (1John 5:16) and is when a babe falls away and is broken, snared & taken by Satan.

Isa 28:9 Whom shall he teach knowledge? and whom shall he make to understand doctrine? Them that are weaned from the milk, and drawn from the breasts (converted believers). 10 For precept must be upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little: 11 For with stammering lips and another language (spiritual language) will he speak to this people. 12 But the word of the LORD was unto them (babes who draw milk) precept upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little; that they might go, and fall backward, and be broken, and snared, and taken (by Satan).

Paul said that when a believer commits the sin that leads to death, they cannot be renewed to repentance because they sacrifice the Son of God afresh. But there is a solution presented by God’s Word (here a little and there a little) which can restore an apostate believer. That "way" is for Christ to come to them a second time and pour out the Latter Rain of the Spirit. The baptism of the Spirit will come in strength and will heal the person's spiritual blindness. As a result, the apostate believer will repent of their works and will come out of Satan’s deceptions. The judgment of the Day of the Lord will then immediately follow to remove and destroy all the spiritual things (chaff, Mat 3:12) within them that have made them a sinful child of the Devil. It is from this judgment that the child of the Devil perishes by the Sword.

Have you ever wondered why there is little unity of truth taught by the many different denominational churches in the world? It is because the churches of this world are fully apostate and have become places where the blind lead the blind. However, they do have one common belief. They all believe that a person must contribute at least some “works” to receive their free gift of salvation from Christ. Some apostate churches require many works, while some require just one or two. However, the number of works is unimportant since it only takes one work to commit the sin that leads to death and fall from grace.

When a person understands the true message being taught by the healing of the infirmed man (John 5:1-15) and the forgiveness of the woman taken in adultery (John 8:1-11), it becomes much easier to understand that Christ is only referring to the sin that leads to death. I can explain those two teachings but it would take a couple of additional posts to do it. If you have an interest, just let me know.

Joe

 

[Earburner]

We have Jesus tell at least two different people to "go, and sin no more" Did he mean it? Is it possible?

Jn 5:14 Afterward Jesus findeth him in the temple, and said unto him, Behold, thou art made whole: sin no more, lest a worse thing come unto thee.

Jn 8:11 She said, No man, Lord. And Jesus said unto her, Neither do I condemn thee: go, and sin no more.

Thoughts?

To "sin no more" is a "double edge sword" for two different thoughts.

One thought is for the mind of the flesh to do the work of Jesus, aka CHURCH-ianity, the school of works.
The other thought is for the mind of Christ to trust in the work of Jesus, aka CHRIST-ianity, the school of faith.

Which "mind" in you accepts and comprehends this scripture:
John 11[26] And whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall never die. Believest thou this?

All should read, study and digest all of 1 Cor. ch. 2 along with John 3:18, 14:23; Rev. 3:20.

 

[mailmandan]

In regard to John 5:14, I see Jesus' warning against returning to a sinful lifestyle, emphasizing the potential negative outcome of sin. I see Jesus' warning to this man that if he returns to his previous sinful behavior, he may face worse outcomes. This indicates that sin has its inevitable consequences. It's about the direction of our walk and not "sinless perfection"--which is un-biblical. (1 John 1:8-10)

In regard to John 8:11, I've heard certain folks use the words of Jesus "go and sin no more" to teach "sinless perfection" yet I believe that Jesus was telling the woman to go and leave her life of sin, namely, she had been practicing adultery. Also, Jesus cannot compromise his perfect holy standard, so of course He is not going to say, "go and just sin a little bit."

 

[Taken]

Go and Sin no more...is this possible?

Sin no more possible?

Yes.

Glory to God,
Taken

 

[Jack]

Go and Sin no more...is this possible?​

I guess it's possible. Some Christians think they NEVER sin. But all Christians sin. Some don't confess their sins which may be unforgiven sins.

 

[mailmandan]

For one to argue that it's possible to live a sinless, without fault or defect, flawless, absolute perfect life 100% of the time (exactly as Jesus lived) would be like arguing that it's possible for a football team in the NFL to go through an entire season without any players committing any penalties at all. One may argue that the potential is there, yet why does mankind and these NFL teams always fall short of those goals?

 

[Michiah-Imla]

“He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.” (1Jn 3:8, KJV)

Everyone should heed the words of Christ!

GO, AND SIN NO MORE!

 

[Jack]

1 John 3:8 (ESV)
8 Whoever makes a practice of sinning is of the devil,

 

[Michiah-Imla]

1 John 3:8 (ESV)
8 Whoever makes a practice of sinning is of the devil,

Modern, watered down, translation.

I guess you’re more comfortable with that version for some reason…

Question,

Is it okay to murder so long as you don’t make a “practice” of it?m

The word salad nonsense in modern translations is ridiculous.

 

[Michiah-Imla]

1 John 3:8 (ESV)
8 Whoever makes a practice of sinning is of the devil,

Another question for ya…

How many sins did it take for Adam and Eve to ruin it all?

One!

There was no “practice” of sinning there.

Wake up!

 

[Jack]

Modern, watered down, translation.

I guess you’re more comfortable with that version for some reason…

Question,

Is it okay to murder so long as you don’t make a “practice” of it?m

The word salad nonsense in modern translations is ridiculous.

You NEVER sin???

1 John 3:8 (NASB)
8 the one who practices sin is of the devil;

 

[Jack]

Another question for ya…

How many sins did it take for Adam and Eve to ruin it all?

One!

There was no “practice” of sinning there.

Wake up!

So John wasn't a Christian?

1 John 1:8-10 (NKJV)
8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.
9 If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
10 If we say that we have not sinned, we make Him a liar, and His word is not in us.

 

[Michiah-Imla]

@Jack

You’re confused.

I’ll leave you to it.

As you were…

(Shakes off dust, and moves on).

 

[Jack]

@Jack

You’re confused.

I’ll leave you to it.

As you were…

(Shakes off dust, and moves on).

John wasn't a Christian? He clearly included himself at least 14 times.

 

[mailmandan]

1 John 3:8 (ESV)
8 Whoever makes a practice of sinning is of the devil,

Amen! 1 John 3:6 - Sinneth not (ουχ αμαρτανε). Linear present (linear μενων, keeps on abiding) active indicative of αμαρτανω, "does not keep on sinning." For μενω (abide) see 1 John 2:6; John 15:4-10.

Whosoever sinneth (ο αμαρτανων). Present (linear) active articular participle like μενων above, "the one who keeps on sinning" (lives a life of sin, not mere occasional acts of sin as αμαρτησας, aorist active participle, would mean).

1 John 3:9 - Doeth no sin (αμαρτιαν ου ποιε). Linear present active indicative as in verse 1 John 3:4 like αμαρτανε in verse 1 John 3:8. The child of God does not have the habit of sin.

His seed (σπερμα αυτου). God's seed, "the divine principle of life" (Vincent). Cf. 1 John 3:1.

And he cannot sin (κα ου δυνατα αμαρτανειν). This is a wrong translation, for this English naturally means "and he cannot commit sin" as if it were κα ου δυνατα αμαρτειν or αμαρτησα (second aorist or first aorist active infinitive). The present active infinitive αμαρτανειν can only mean "and he cannot go on sinning," as is true of αμαρτανε in verse 1 John 3:8 and αμαρτανων in verse 1 John 3:6. For the aorist subjunctive to commit a sin see αμαρτητε and αμαρτη in 1 John 2:1. A great deal of false theology has grown out of a misunderstanding of the tense of αμαρτανειν here. Paul has precisely John's idea in Romans 6:1 επιμενωμεν τη αμαρτια (shall we continue in sin, present active linear subjunctive) in contrast with αμαρτησωμεν in Romans 6:15 (shall we commit a sin, first aorist active subjunctive).

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