The Bible - Fiction, or non-fiction?
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The account of Noah's flood illustrates the fact. (unless the Flood was a myth)
- Humankind was sinful.
- God had regrets about His creation.
- Solution = global genocide
Could there have been a better solution?
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How many died in the flood?
Who brought the flood?
How can you claim that it wasn't genocide?
Unless you are whitewashing it.
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You had asked me, " Aren't you whitewashing genocide?
Which is your way of implying that you believe the LORD is a genocidal murderer
David Lamb
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Matthew's account does not mention the time the disciples noticed it, just that when they saw they asked Jesus a question:
“And seeing a fig tree by the road, He came to it and found nothing on it but leaves, and said to it, “Let no fruit grow on you ever again.” Immediately the fig tree withered away. And when the disciples saw [it], they marveled, saying, “How did the fig tree wither away so soon?”” (Mt 21:19-20 NKJV)
Mark actually says that the disciples heard what Jesus said to the fig tree:
“And seeing from afar a fig tree having leaves, He went to see if perhaps He would find something on it. When He came to it, He found nothing but leaves, for it was not the season for figs. In response Jesus said to it, “Let no one eat fruit from you ever again.” And His disciples heard it.” (Mr 11:13-14 NKJV)
In later verses, he says when the disciples noticed the withered fig tree, and specifically mentions Peter:
“Now in the morning, as they passed by, they saw the fig tree dried up from the roots. And Peter, remembering, said to Him, “Rabbi, look! The fig tree which You cursed has withered away.”” (Mr 11:20-21 NKJV)
So no contradiction between the two accounts.
How many does it say?
It doesn't, why ask questions you already know the answer to
You know the answer to this also
Where did I claim anything at all to whitewash it?
Besides, He is the Creator, He gives life (which is his to give) and He takes it away (because its His to take). Thats His place to do that. Its His breath, if he removes what enables us to live, it had belonged to Him before we ever were.
David Lamb
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No, I specifically said: "So not "regret" in the sense of wishing He had never done something, or admitting that He had made a mistake." God did not make an admission of doing wrong.
David Lamb
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But if you take the verses you quoted as meaning that God can simply ignore sin, then what was the need for sending Hs Son into the world to die on the cross in order to save sinners?
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Please pay attention stevie! God does not have to ask your permission!
"... Immediately the fig tree withered away. And when the disciples saw [it], they marveled, saying, “How did the fig tree wither away so soon?"
"Now in the morning..."
As in, the next day. Not immediately as stated in Matthew.
Peter remembered what Jesus said the previous day and was commenting on what happened over night.
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Like the playground bully? He can do whatever He pleases? Because no one can stop Him?
What sort of god is that?
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Won't Judgment Day be interesting!
He will cast BILLIONS of humans into Hell fire and He won't ask your permission. Hope you don't get in His way.
David Lamb
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But Matthew doesn't say, "Immediately the disciples saw it." He says, "Immediately the fig tree withered away." Then he says, "And when the disciples saw it......"
Stv is constantly looking for Bible errors that aren't there, just like Satan.
That makes zero sense. The playground bully is on equal foot in the same playground the other he is bullying is on. God however, gives the both of them the breath in their bodies. It's His gift that either of them are even alive and breathing (at all).
Recalling his Spirit (which belongs to Him) from your body (where it is on loan) is His to do. Your life has never really been your own, even though you might think it is (and live like it is). You will inevitably die one day. If He decides to recall that breathe, He is just taking back what belongs to Him (not you). " Then shall the dust (which thou art) return to the earth as it was: and the spirit shall return unto God who gave it." You might see that as a big bully because you believe your life belongs solely to you.
