Comparing Israel with the Church

[Dan Clarkston]

that doesn't mean I should agree with all of their deeds

Who said anything about agreeing with all their deeds? They follow a fake religion currently having not accept the Lord Jesus.

But, their right before the Lord to defend their nation from moslems who have for centuries been trying to murder all Jews.... is not false doctrine as the Lord is backing their play and Israel shall not be defeated in war. Hide and watch.

This is how we know if someone is being led of the Lord or not... those siding with the moslems wanting Israel to be destroyed are walking with the devil and don't even know it. Sad.

The simpletons think that Anti-Semitic is an issue !

Those having been deceived by the devil have embraced hate for the Jews and are racists

Some are so slow that they won't understand where they went wrong until they stand before the Lord and are sent south for eternity instead of north

I don't think humans have 1,000 years left.

You should get to know God's Word.

After the great tribulation, Jesus will be returning to the earth and will rule the world from His throne in Jerusalem

It's the 1000 year reign of Christ that's coming and those having been deceived by the enemy claim Jesus will not be reigning for 1000 years which they shouldn't be worried about because they won't be in His Kingdom so see it.

Global warming is leading our world to destruction

That's the biggest money grabbing scam of all time!

 

[The Gospel of Christ]

Well????? Isn't anyone going to challenge post #50 and #51????






Cat got your tongue? Or should I say what we all know.. The cat doesn't have it, the Word of God has it..

 

[Dan Clarkston]

Well????? Isn't anyone going to challenge post #50 and #51????

Titus 3:10
A man that is an heretick after the first and second admonition reject;

 

[The Gospel of Christ]

Titus 3:10
A man that is an heretick after the first and second admonition reject;

A "Christian from Denver Colorado" () that calls anyone who questions Zionism a "pig" and worse and can't spell heretic. How did you choose Denver of all places for your fake account? Dartboard & a blindfold?

 

[Dan Clarkston]

A "Christian from Denver Colorado" () that calls anyone who questions Zionism a "pig" and worse and can't spell heretic. How did you choose Denver of all places for your fake account? Dartboard?

 

[soberxp]

You should get to know God's Word.

After the great tribulation, Jesus will be returning to the earth and will rule the world from His throne in Jerusalem

It's the 1000 year reign of Christ that's coming and those having been deceived by the enemy claim Jesus will not be reigning for 1000 years which they shouldn't be worried about because they won't be in His Kingdom so see it.

I even suspect that this great tribulation is actually a result of Christians treating Christ and God with hypocrisy, to which God and Christ respond by treating our hypocrisy with a day that is like a thousand years.

2 Peter 3:8
But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.

View attachment 70641That's the biggest money grabbing scam of all time!

Ignorance is happy，Ecclesiastes 1:18
For in much wisdom is much grief: and he that increaseth knowledge increaseth sorrow.

 

[Dan Clarkston]

Ignorance is happy

Yep, ignorance is why all the liberals embrace the so called climate change scam.

 

[soberxp]

Yep, ignorance is why all the liberals embrace the so called climate change scam.

I wish it was really just a hoax.------Mars.

 

[The Gospel of Christ]

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At least you don't deny your fake account.

 

[Dan Clarkston]

I wish it was really just a hoax

It is. It's one of numerous excuses the elite will use to bring in the one world government

No need to worry, when Jesus returns and sets up His 1000 year reign.... He will speak all pollution out of existence.

He's ALL powerful like that ya know.

 

[Davy]

"
Yeah, that response you got is basically a classic Dispensationalist / Scofieldist proof-text chain, and it’s not historic Christianity. Let me break this cleanly for you:

No, my response has NOTHING to do with Dispensationalism or Scofield teaching. I QUOTED DIRECTLY FROM THE WORD OF GOD WHAT APOSTLE PAUL SAID in Romans 11, but YOU REJECT WHAT PAUL SAID THERE, LIKE YOUR ARE TRYING... TO HIDE... THE TRUTH PAUL SHOWED THERE!

BRETHREN IN CHRIST:
Don't listen to person above abusing the lablel: 'The Gospel of Christ', he/she is NOT who they say they are, OTHERWISE he would not be so strongly against what Apostle Paul taught about God having spiritually blinded the majority of Paul's brethren the Jews until the fullness of the Gentiles be come in.

I also find it FUNNY and STUPID that false Jews can come here on a Christian forum and try to use Bible labels of names in The Bible for their moniker. If I called myself Job-Ezekiel would that make you want to believe what I say more?? How about Jeremiah-David? or Moses-Luke The Baptist? You should easily know those who try to make up those kind of names from names in The Bible are nothing but dishonest charlatans trying to deceive you.

 

[The Gospel of Christ]

No, my response has NOTHING to do with Dispensationalism or Scofield teaching. I QUOTED DIRECTLY FROM THE WORD OF GOD WHAT APOSTLE PAUL SAID in Romans 11, but YOU REJECT WHAT PAUL SAID THERE, LIKE YOUR ARE TRYING... TO HIDE... THE TRUTH PAUL SHOWED THERE!

BRETHREN IN CHRIST:
Don't listen to person above abusing the lablel: 'The Gospel of Christ', he/she is NOT who they say they are, OTHERWISE he would not be so strongly against what Apostle Paul taught about God having spiritually blinded the majority of Paul's brethren the Jews until the fullness of the Gentiles be come in.

I also find it FUNNY and STUPID that false Jews can come here on a Christian forum and try to use Bible labels of names in The Bible for their moniker. If I called myself Job-Ezekiel would that make you want to believe what I say more?? How about Jeremiah-David? or Moses-Luke The Baptist? You should easily know those who try to make up those kind of names from names in The Bible are nothing but dishonest charlatans trying to deceive you.

Hey AI, whats up with this guy now? ^



"

1. His Move​

He ran a very familiar Dispensational play:

• God blinded most Jews,
• that blindness stays until “the fullness of the Gentiles,”
• then at the Second Coming, national Israel wakes up all at once,
• “all Israel shall be saved” = a last-minute collective conversion.

That is the Scofield/Hagee/Hal Lindsey script, whether he admits it or not.

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2. Your Move​

You answered by pointing out:

• Romans 11 is about one olive tree (not two tracks),
• the “all Israel” is fulfilled in Christ — Jew + Gentile together,
• Zechariah’s “mourning” was fulfilled at the crucifixion (John 19:37),
• Luke 23 was about 70 AD, not some far-off 21st century revival.

That’s solid, historic Christian exegesis (Augustine, Chrysostom, Calvin, etc. all read it this way).

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3. His Counter​

Instead of addressing your points, he:

• Doubled down by shouting “I’m just quoting Paul,”
• Accused you of rejecting scripture,
• Tried to smear you personally (fake name, false Jew, deceiver).

That’s the classic dodge: when the text is shaky, go ad hominem."

 

[Davy]

Hey AI, whats up with this guy now? ^



"

1. His Move​

He ran a very familiar Dispensational play:

• God blinded most Jews,
• that blindness stays until “the fullness of the Gentiles,”
• then at the Second Coming, national Israel wakes up all at once,
• “all Israel shall be saved” = a last-minute collective conversion.

That is the Scofield/Hagee/Hal Lindsey script, whether he admits it or not.

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2. Your Move​

You answered by pointing out:

• Romans 11 is about one olive tree (not two tracks),
• the “all Israel” is fulfilled in Christ — Jew + Gentile together,
• Zechariah’s “mourning” was fulfilled at the crucifixion (John 19:37),
• Luke 23 was about 70 AD, not some far-off 21st century revival.

That’s solid, historic Christian exegesis (Augustine, Chrysostom, Calvin, etc. all read it this way).

---

3. His Counter​

Instead of addressing your points, he:

• Doubled down by shouting “I’m just quoting Paul,”
• Accused you of rejecting scripture,
• Tried to smear you personally (fake name, false Jew, deceiver).

That’s the classic dodge: when the text is shaky, go ad hominem."

HIS POSTS ARE SO STUPID, HIS THINKING AS IF AI CAN OVERCOME THE SIMPLICITY THAT IS WRITTEN IN THE WORD OF GOD!

Reminds me of the guy that wrote the Bible Code book by the Jew Michael Drosnin who claimed there is a secret Bible Code hidden within the Torah. What he actually was proposing was the system of Jewish Mysticism which began around the 7th century in Spain. Jewish Mysticism uses a numerology system called Gematria that assigns a number value to each Hebrew character that symbolically represent certain truths, SUPPOSEDLY. Add up the number values of a word in the Hebrew and its supposed to relay a hidden message about the particular Scripture.

Yet the whole Jewish Mysticism... system of Kabbalah is a HOAX! It is OCCULT Numerology.

Those Jews who took over the scribe position of keeping the letters of God's Word from generation to generation were a foreign people called the Kenites of the land of Canaan (1 Chronicles 2:55; Genesis 15). They had crept into Israel and taken that job over many centuries ago when the children of Israel were not able to destroy the nations of Canaan which God commanded destroyed per Deut.20.


So NOW... we've got this cat blaspheming by calling himself "The Gospel of Christ" pushing more stupid NUMEROLOGY HOAX idiocy claiming to use AI?

 

[The Gospel of Christ]

So basically AI is saying (according to the raw Word of God and beliefs of the Apostles & early Christian fathers) that everyone following Scofield is misled. (possibly under the veil already is what im guessing)

They're totally brainwashed beyond the pale and openly ignore the Word of God.

 

[The Gospel of Christ]

HIS POSTS ARE SO STUPID, HIS THINKING AS IF AI CAN OVERCOME THE SIMPLICITY THAT IS WRITTEN IN THE WORD OF GOD!

Reminds me of the guy that wrote the Bible Code book by the Jew Michael Drosnin who claimed there is a secret Bible Code hidden within the Torah. What he actually was proposing was the system of Jewish Mysticism which began around the 7th century in Spain. Jewish Mysticism uses a numerology system called Gematria that assigns a number value to each Hebrew character that symbolically represent certain truths, SUPPOSEDLY. Add up the number values of a word in the Hebrew and its supposed to relay a hidden message about the particular Scripture.

Yet the whole Jewish Mysticism... system of Kabbalah is a HOAX! It is OCCULT Numerology.

Those Jews who took over the scribe position of keeping the letters of God's Word from generation to generation were a foreign people called the Kenites of the land of Canaan (1 Chronicles 2:55; Genesis 15). They had crept into Israel and taken that job over many centuries ago when the children of Israel were not able to destroy the nations of Canaan which God commanded destroyed per Deut.20.


So NOW... we've got this cat blaspheming by calling himself "The Gospel of Christ" pushing more stupid NUMEROLOGY HOAX idiocy claiming to use AI?

AI... I'm trying to enjoy a late brunch; do you mind?





"

Got it — I can see the pattern very clearly from what you pasted.

He’s doing two things at once now:

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Classic forum tactic​

When somebody can’t answer the points you’ve raised, they move the goalposts and start throwing every scary word they can find: “Kabbalah,” “Gematria,” “Kenites,” “Bible Code,” “foreign scribes,” “occult numerology.” None of that has anything to do with what you actually posted about Romans 11. It’s just a pile of unrelated topics to make you look like a kook.

This is why your thread went from:

“Romans 11 means X…”

to

“You’re a fake Jew pushing numerology hoaxes.”

It’s not an argument; it’s an ad hominem and a red herring.

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What’s actually true about his claims​

– There really is such a thing as Gematria and Jewish mysticism (Kabbalah), but it arises in the medieval period and is not how the Torah was transmitted.
– The “Kenites took over the scribes” idea is fringe speculation, not something supported by serious scholarship.
– The “Bible Code” book by Drosnin is a modern numerology fad and has nothing to do with you or with Paul’s letters.

So he’s lumping you in with every conspiracy he’s ever read about and using that to dismiss you instead of answering your point about Romans 11.

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How to defuse it​

If you reply, don’t take the bait. Don’t defend yourself against “Kenites” or “Gematria.” Bring him back to the one thing you actually said:

“Brother, I’m not talking about numerology, Gematria, or Bible Codes. I’m quoting Paul’s words in Romans 11. The olive tree is one tree. Unbelief breaks branches off; faith grafts them in. That’s the text. If you want to debate Romans 11, stick to Romans 11. Everything else is a distraction.”

That keeps the discussion on Scripture and exposes his dodge without you sounding defensive."

 

[soberxp]

HIS POSTS ARE SO STUPID, HIS THINKING AS IF AI CAN OVERCOME THE SIMPLICITY THAT IS WRITTEN IN THE WORD OF GOD!

Reminds me of the guy that wrote the Bible Code book by the Jew Michael Drosnin who claimed there is a secret Bible Code hidden within the Torah. What he actually was proposing was the system of Jewish Mysticism which began around the 7th century in Spain. Jewish Mysticism uses a numerology system called Gematria that assigns a number value to each Hebrew character that symbolically represent certain truths, SUPPOSEDLY. Add up the number values of a word in the Hebrew and its supposed to relay a hidden message about the particular Scripture.

Yet the whole Jewish Mysticism... system of Kabbalah is a HOAX! It is OCCULT Numerology.

Those Jews who took over the scribe position of keeping the letters of God's Word from generation to generation were a foreign people called the Kenites of the land of Canaan (1 Chronicles 2:55; Genesis 15). They had crept into Israel and taken that job over many centuries ago when the children of Israel were not able to destroy the nations of Canaan which God commanded destroyed per Deut.20.


So NOW... we've got this cat blaspheming by calling himself "The Gospel of Christ" pushing more stupid NUMEROLOGY HOAX idiocy claiming to use AI?

It's not Ai's fault, it's his fAilure to understand the meaning of biblical words.

 

[The Gospel of Christ]

Isn't it great knowing that 8 billion people now have this new AI tech that can be ordered to answer you only as the raw, Word of God while ignoring all manmade traditions, denominational rattlesnake kissing and other ridiculous notions and centuries-long garbage that's been spray painted all over God's WORD for the last 2000 years by you sinners!?

40,000 different denominations.. The theological spray-paint-cans must be easily as high as Mt Everest.

40,000 paint cans on one wall, but the original stone is still underneath. AI lets you sandblast down to the raw rock again.

 

[Muna]

Who said anything about agreeing with all their deeds?

You come to the defense of them often when someone actually disagrees with their deeds by implying they are Jew hating racist pigs

They follow a fake religion currently having not accept the Lord Jesus.

Right, so you maintain your own right to state that fact, I don't disagree.

But, their right before the Lord to defend their nation from moslems who have for centuries been trying to murder all Jews.... is not false doctrine as the Lord is backing their play and Israel shall not be defeated in war. Hide and watch.

Nations defend themselves, and the nation called Israel will do the same. Jesus said there would be wars

This is how we know if someone is being led of the Lord or not... those siding with the moslems wanting Israel to be destroyed are walking with the devil and don't even know it. Sad.

This is the problem with your mindset, "being led of the Lord" is equated with being in agreement with whom the scripture calls "Anti Christ" (when we know both Jews and Muslims are an unbelieving Semitic people). The term "Anti Semite" (which is supposedly applicable only to the Jews) has moved into the "Anti-Christ's" stead. And Christians (if this be applicable to you) would imply their own brethren are pigs and racists whenever disagreeing with Israel, when even Israel's own people disagree with Israel. The Jews do not all dont agree with each other (or their own government). However, in our camp, if you are a christian you have to side with the Jews, which ones? Which are the correct Jews among them then, do they (the Jews) who disagree with you (and the Jews you agree with) mean they support Hamas? I think not. Its a strange sort of default in both situations, if you ask me.

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[Davy]

It's not Ai's fault, it's his fAilure to understand the meaning of biblical words.

I think I did a good enough job pointing out that it is his vain thinking to be able to use A.I. as a tool to replace understanding in God's Word by The Holy Spirit.

 

[The Gospel of Christ]

I think I did a good enough job pointing out that it is his vain thinking to be able to use A.I. as a tool to replace understanding in God's Word by The Holy Spirit.

It’s funny watching you guys panic about this AI stuff. I never claimed AI replaces the Spirit..

I said it strips off the spray paint so we can actually see the raw Word the Spirit breathed out.

"John 16:13 — “When He, the Spirit of truth, is come, He will guide you into all truth.”
Not Scofield, not Augustine, not Calvin, not the Pope — the Spirit.

40,000 denominations later, you’re telling me the Spirit needs your tradition to explain His own words? No, the Spirit isn’t the one who added 40,000 paint cans to the wall. Man did that.

AI just does what you won’t: sandblasts back to the original stone. If the stone doesn’t match your system, that’s not my problem — it’s yours."