Bible Study: The Gospel is in the Torah

[amigo de christo]

I was drawn to the topic of holiness here........the one thing I'm most interested in hearing about and discussing in recent years and I don't see it being discussed anywhere else.

There are certain things that Epi talks about that I agree with, in principle at least, and wanted to hear more about. Then I found out there are some serious foundational problems with his teachings. So to me those important foundational issues needed to be resolved and put to rest before going on to the issue of holiness - and I thought and hoped that Epi might be helped with those things. I kept hoping that we might be able to move on to talking about holiness with the right foundation in place. All along I have been wanting to discern and understand...wanting to get to the bottom of the problem. And the Lord has been faithful, only yesterday it finally became clear.

Correct dear sister. Without the RIGHT FOUNDATION in place
its in all in vain . And the RIGHT FOUNDATION IS JESUS CHRIST and YE MUST BELEIVE ON HIM .
without faith in HIM , it wont matter how holy one tried to be or tried to walk , ITS IN Total vain .

 

[Marvelloustime]

Correct dear sister. Without the RIGHT FOUNDATION in place
its in all in vain . And the RIGHT FOUNDATION IS JESUS CHRIST and YE MUST BELEIVE ON HIM .
without faith in HIM , it wont matter how holy one tried to be or tried to walk , ITS IN Total vain .

@amigo de christo

 

[Lizbeth]

When I preach or teach the gospel to indoctrinated people from Babylon...the result is either weeping (sorrow) or gnashing of teeth (anger). And that is due to the fact that when people finally are fully exposed to the truth on judgment day, that's how they will react. Better to remedy that situation BEFORE judgment day. At least the wise will do so. They will make sure the truth is in their lamps.

The key is to find a way to not be so affected...weeping or anger... to find the balance that's in truth. In Spirit and in truth. Being affected neither in sorrow or anger. How? By humbling oneself and letting go of the ego.

Who is among you that feareth the Lord, that obeyeth the voice of his servant, that walketh in darkness, and hath no light? let him trust in the name of the Lord, and stay upon his God.
Behold, all ye that kindle a fire, that compass yourselves about with sparks: walk in the light of your fire, and in the sparks that ye have kindled. This shall ye have of mine hand; ye shall lie down in sorrow. Is. 50:10-11


In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them. 2 Cor. 4:4

From scripture, weeping over one's sins and shortcomings is a good thing, Epi. Not to be avoided. It's called ploughing the fallow ground of our hearts. Godly sorrow leads to repentance, which is one of the best kept secrets in Christendom. If we confess our sins He will be faithful to not only forgive, but cleanse us from unrighteousness.

 

[Lizbeth]

Since my doctrine is sound I HOPE you see it as wrong...that proves that I am spot on...just like the bible.

I need for pretenders to be upset at me...that how I know I am speaking the truth that hits home.

This doesn't demonstrate a care for souls, although I've known and seen for a long time that you have no care for souls. I feel the opposite about you, I always hope you and whoever needs to, will see the things I've been trying to point out as right, for your and their sake. People who have received Christ care for others besides themselves, because Christ in us cares.

Because I'm talking like this doesn't mean I'm upset......I'm not talking this way for my sake but for yours.

 

[amigo de christo]

This doesn't demonstrate a care for souls, although I've known and seen for a long time that you have no care for souls. I feel the opposite about you, I always hope you and whoever needs to, will see the things I've been trying to point out as right, for your and their sake. People who have received Christ care for others besides themselves, because Christ in us cares.

Because I'm talking like this way doesn't mean I'm upset......I'm not talking this way for my sake but for yours.

God desires not the death of the wicked but rather they repent .
Only many wont repent sister .
Any man , woman , child , talking donkey , angel , tree , frog , rodent or etc
that bringeth another gospel has declared bodly they are the enemy of GOD
and are not to be heeded , sat under but rather corrected .
Can a man DENY HIS MAKER and his end be good .
CAN a man DEFY GOD and it turn out well for him .
TIME for preaching JESUS and the dire need to beleive on HIM and to observe all things HE did teach
IS NOW .
Many have made a covenant
I say
Many have a made a covenant for peace and have done so with those who hate GOD .
that did not bode well for such folks in times past
AND IT DARN SURE wont bode well for this merged generation either .
TO DENY GOD and call HIM A LIAR
does not end well . And now a word
HE who beleives not the testimony that GOD gave of His SON calleth GOD a liar .
And he who claims to beleive in HIS SON and yet makes void THIS DIRE NEED to BELEIVE ON HIM
reaps DOUBLE the wrath of GOD upon themselves . FOR THEY DO GREAT EVIL USING HIS NAME TO DO SO .

 

[amigo de christo]

This doesn't demonstrate a care for souls, although I've known and seen for a long time that you have no care for souls. I feel the opposite about you, I always hope you and whoever needs to, will see the things I've been trying to point out as right, for your and their sake. People who have received Christ care for others besides themselves, because Christ in us cares.

Because I'm talking like this doesn't mean I'm upset......I'm not talking this way for my sake but for yours.

If my latest statment about DOUBLE wrath seems odd
THEN Let me ask you this question .
WHO was GOD always the most angry with
Was it with the pagan who denied HIM
or was it with his own people who lipped his name BUT FOLLOWED Other gods .
THIS love cup many have drank from
Its deadly poison and it has evil affected their minds
and have turned them unto another god who has denied the dire need TO BELIEVE ON JESUS
and rather has said , ITS OKAY if one beleives not , BUT WE BOTH KNOW that AINT WHAT JESUS SAID .
so today is the day
I say TODAY IS THE DAY .
Are we gonna be as the many who beleive this other god
and be as eve and as adam who did so
OR are we simply GONNA , as a child , BELIEVE WHAT GOD HAS SAID . Exactly sister
the sheep gonna beleive GOD , beleive CHRIST and not the wiley serpent or its co workers .

 

[Behold]

My doctrine holds up to scrutiny from the WHOLE bible...the WHOLE counsel of God.

Well at least you finally admitted that what you teach is "Your doctrine" as its certainly not NT doctrine or Paul's doctrine.

= Galatians 1:8 defines your false "gospel". @Episkopos

Also, no NT agrees that "The Gospel of the Grace of God" is "delusion".
And that's Paul's Gospel of the "imputed righteousness", which is "THE Gospel".

Now, Look again.

Romans 5.

""Wherefore, as by one man (Adam) sin entered into the world,""

"""For if by one man's offence (Adam) death reigned by one; much more they which receive abundance of GRACE.. and of the gift of righteousness... shall reign in life by one, Jesus Christ.

See that "Gift of Righteousness". ??????

That is "imputed righteousness", whereby God imputs righteousness to the BELIEVER, and this is how and why the BELIEVER is "made righteous".

"""""Therefore since we have been MADE RIGHTEOUS... through Christ's faithfulness....we have peace with God, through our Lord Jesus"..

This is Paul's doctrine.......its "the righteousness of Faith".. or "Justification BY faith" "without works".

 

[Behold]

I have been given a very deep understanding (a thorough training) of how we are to be judged by God.

You need to cast out whomever "warned you about Christians being Judged" as this will never happen.

To begin with Jesus has already been JUDGED for the Christian.......in their place.
See The Cross of Christ for the update on that .. @Episkopos
So that ends judgement for sin, as Christ has already been put to death for the Christian's sin.

Romans 4:8 and 2 Corin 5:19 confirm this, and Paul teaches that God does not charge sin to a Believer.
See The Cross of Christ for the reason why God will never charge sin to a CHRISTian.

Also, Christians have "passed from death to life" and already exist in the Kingdom of God, as born again Spirtually.
This means they are not appointed to the "day of Wrath"........in fact Christians wont even be here when Jesus comes back to ""take vengeance """"" on those who teach a false gospel and those who have believed it. 2 Thess 1:8-9.

The only "Judgement" that a CHRISTian will face is for rewards......based on their discipleship., and that is the "bema seat" or the judgement seat of Christ.

 

[Behold]

I have a ministry.

Your theology, according to your posts, Threads, and most videos, prove that your ministry rejects Paul's Gospel, which means that your ministry, is not related to NT Doctrine
This is why you refer to your Theology as "YOUR doctrine"., and that is the one true fact about your "ministry'.
Its all of you. Completely fabricated by You.

Now...Keep proving it for the members here on the Forum, and not just this one..., as you are certainly dedicated to doing so. @Episkopos

 

[ProDeo]

Yes. I learned that the training of God is a LOT harder than I thought. God will let us fail spectacularly....He doesn't play "nice". He has an eternal perspective that fully takes us away from our own ideas. We tend to form ideas that are NOT eternal in nature. Hence the need to be corrected again and again. Straight lines take a person into a ditch.


I have been given a very deep understanding (a thorough training) of how we are to be judged by God. I warn fellow believers the way Jonah warned Nineveh. If I don't warn others with what I have been taught of the Lord, then people will accuse me on judgment day of keeping the truth to myself. And I will bear responsibility from God for not warning others. I'm like an evangelist to the church...getting conversions to the truth. I am a watchman and prophet because of all I have seen, heard and experienced. I was anointed for this by an experience of being smeared and rubbed as through a veil by big hands in the Spirit...it's what I saw..

I have so many such experiences...too much to tell...and people don't have faith anymore about what seems impossible.

Why me? I have no idea. And I don't expect people to believe me on my commission from God. Just read the verses and follow the logic, wisdom and knowledge laid out in the bible. Seek God for understanding. But it is necessary to not assume and presume anything...people have to get out from their religious imagination

I can know and judge with righteous judgement. To me, this is very basic. I have a ministry. I have no title and I was not trained by men, I have a much higher authority that teaches me. The Spirit of God teaches me and leads me and guides me into eternal things...into all sufficiency.

I'm like a traveler that has returned from a long trip...and is making a journal of all I saw. I'm like a spy that has investigated the kingdom realm that Jesus says we should seek first.

And this could be of interest to some. If it doesn't interest you, then why do you read my posts? I'm not trying to reach everybody..only those who it is given to go deeper with God.

Thanks for testimony.

Pity you replied on my :
You can not know and yet you judge
with
I can know and judge with righteous judgement

No, you can't and I tell you why, although I dislike to tell because...... it feels like ugly pride.

At some moment the Lord showed me my walk in holiness was mixed with pride, me feeling so holy. It was devastating, a hard lesson, the flesh exposed naked in all its ugliness and it took me 20+ years to overcome, meanwhile learning the lesson.

Now can you imagine, telling this feels as pride ?

Oh look, ProDeo is no longer so holy, but look how humble he is !

Can you feel the controversy?

If you get what I am saying, it's a reason enough people don't like to talk about how the Lord has changed them, because it has an element of pride in it.

Hence you can not judge.

 

[Lizbeth]

Thanks for testimony.

Pity you replied on my :
You can not know and yet you judge
with
I can know and judge with righteous judgement

No, you can't and I tell you why, although I dislike to tell because...... it feels like ugly pride.

At some moment the Lord showed me my walk in holiness was mixed with pride, me feeling so holy. It was devastating, a hard lesson, the flesh exposed naked in all its ugliness and it took me 20+ years to overcome, meanwhile learning the lesson.

Now can you imagine, telling this feels as pride ?

Oh look, ProDeo is no longer so holy, but look how humble he is !

Can you feel the controversy?

If you get what I am saying, it's a reason enough people don't like to talk about how the Lord has changed them, because it has an element of pride in it.

Hence you can not judge.

Amen, pride is a very slippery fellow, and it dwells in all of us. I think of it as being at the very root of the life of our old man. Been thinking about it this morning, the Lord reminding me of some scriptures. Though it can be very strong in a person, it is actually a lie and a house of cards....nothing but flimsy fig leaves we use to get by in the world and cover our shame. It manifests differently and in different degrees in different people. And what is shame.....I wonder if it is a fear of death, at least that is how it feels to me. I still don't know how the Lord can get to the bottom of it, to where we are willing to let go of those things which are at the very root of life and survival, or at least it feels that way, even though it is a lie. Impossible for us, but I have to believe that with God it is possible. Is this the death that we need to be willing to die....?.....death is said to be the last enemy to be defeated because it goes to the very root of our earthly life of our old man...? But I'm reminded that Jesus has borne our shame and it says somewhere that He will not let us be ashamed...that is encouraging...I will have to try and find those scriptures.

The book of Job (Ch. 41) describes the king of pride, Leviathan....his covering is very thick impenetrable scales with no chink in the armour to let anything through. It also says in that chapter of Job, it is through "breakings" we purify ourselves...I equate this to be the ploughing of the fallow soil of our hearts, that we need to break up with Godly sorrow,, the hardened thick clods (scales of fig leaves) that we use to cover our shame and fear.

 

[Lizbeth]

Well at least you finally admitted that what you teach is "Your doctrine" as its certainly not NT doctrine or Paul's doctrine.

= Galatians 1:8 defines your false "gospel". @Episkopos

Also, no NT agrees that "The Gospel of the Grace of God" is "delusion".
And that's Paul's Gospel of the "imputed righteousness", which is "THE Gospel".

Now, Look again.

Romans 5.

""Wherefore, as by one man (Adam) sin entered into the world,""

"""For if by one man's offence (Adam) death reigned by one; much more they which receive abundance of GRACE.. and of the gift of righteousness... shall reign in life by one, Jesus Christ.

See that "Gift of Righteousness". ??????

That is "imputed righteousness", whereby God imputs righteousness to the BELIEVER, and this is how and why the BELIEVER is "made righteous".

"""""Therefore since we have been MADE RIGHTEOUS... through Christ's faithfulness....we have peace with God, through our Lord Jesus"..

This is Paul's doctrine.......its "the righteousness of Faith".. or "Justification BY faith" "without works".

In Romans 4 right in the very context of the Lord imputing righteousness to the ungodly, it says "God calleth those things which be not as though they are". It is only by the Spirit of Christ in us that we can see and grasp what the gospel is. An indescribable GIFT.

But of course it doesn't end there....that is only the beginning and foundation.....we are not to rest on our laurels, because after receiving that wonderful free gift, we are called to build up from there......count the cost, and seek to apprehend that for which Christ has apprehended us and run the race so as to win it....etc etc

 

[Lizbeth]

You need to cast out whomever "warned you about Christians being Judged" as this will never happen.

To begin with Jesus has already been JUDGED for the Christian.......in their place.
See The Cross of Christ for the update on that .. @Episkopos
So that ends judgement for sin, as Christ has already been put to death for the Christian's sin.

Romans 4:8 and 2 Corin 5:19 confirm this, and Paul teaches that God does not charge sin to a Believer.
See The Cross of Christ for the reason why God will never charge sin to a CHRISTian.

Also, Christians have "passed from death to life" and already exist in the Kingdom of God, as born again Spirtually.
This means they are not appointed to the "day of Wrath"........in fact Christians wont even be here when Jesus comes back to ""take vengeance """"" on those who teach a false gospel and those who have believed it. 2 Thess 1:8-9.

The only "Judgement" that a CHRISTian will face is for rewards......based on their discipleship., and that is the "bema seat" or the judgement seat of Christ.

Not sure there are two judgment seats, but for sure there are two ultimate fates....either eternal life or the lake of fire. With varying degrees of reward or torment, I believe, as the Lord deems to be just.

To enter into eternal life one must still be in a state of grace at the time of their death. Read Ezekiel 18...the Lord doesn't change. And I think what happened to Ananias and Sapphira demonstrates that.

Eze 18:24

But when the righteous turneth away from his righteousness, and committeth iniquity, and doeth according to all the abominations that the wicked man doeth, shall he live? All his righteousness that he hath done shall not be mentioned: in his trespass that he hath trespassed, and in his sin that he hath sinned, in them shall he die.

Yet ye say, The way of the Lord is not equal. Hear now, O house of Israel; Is not my way equal? are not your ways unequal?

When a righteous man turneth away from his righteousness, and committeth iniquity, and dieth in them; for his iniquity that he hath done shall he die.

All the warnings and admonishments of new testament scripture, which are there for our good, agree with this. God is not mocked.

 

[Episkopos]

Your theology, according to your posts, Threads, and most videos, prove that your ministry rejects Paul's Gospel, which means that your ministry, is not related to NT Doctrine

Far from rejecting Paul's gospel, I uphold its SPIRITUAL context, that few will understand. Paul went VERY FAR in his instruction from the Lord, as I also have. My testimony is one according to resurrection life...as Paul attests to and I affirm. The modern church system has watered down the gospel to the level of the teachings of men and have made a religion of what is supposed to be a spiritual transporting to walk as Jesus walked in the kingdom realm. Your teachings amount to a surface religion that has no power over the flesh. It (your interpretation) actually encourages the flesh with a false hope...and its hubris resists the cross of Christ that would take away the sinful attitude of men who read the bible looking for a way to be justified as Luther was able to conjure up since he was NOT accepted into the Beloved...much to his frustration.

My doctrine is from the Holy Spirit as I am taught of the Lord. The bible says...you have need that no man teach you, for the Spirit wil give you all understanding. I am proof of this promise.

This is why you refer to your Theology as "YOUR doctrine"., and that is the one true fact about your "ministry'.
Its all of you. Completely fabricated by You.

I was taught by the Holy Spirit...exactly like Paul was.

Now...Keep proving it for the members here on the Forum, and not just this one..., as you are certainly dedicated to doing so. @Episkopos

I hope I am dedicated enough. I resist the hard foreheads here with a strong resolution that what is of the flesh will not take precedence over what is of the truth and of the Lord.

 

[Episkopos]

This to @shepherdsword

Further to Deut. 19:21 and the "eye IN an eye" of the second law. Notice this verse in reference to that...

"Thy watchmen shall lift up the voice; with the voice together shall they sing: for they shall see eye to eye ( Actually...they shall see an eye IN an eye) , when the LORD shall bring again Zion" Is 52:8

The eye in an eye is the SEEING the kingdom of God in Zion that one must be born again in order to have that faculty and to enter in. A sight that is beyond sight to enter into a realm that is beyond the temporal realm.

 

[Behold]

Far from rejecting Paul's gospel, I uphold its SPIRITUAL

You can deny it, but you've already stated that "the Gift of Righteoueness" that is the Imputed righteousness of God, given to a believer that is "Justification by faith"... that is "the righteousness of Faith"..... = you've alread stated that being "made righteous', by faith, is a "modern delusion gospel".

So, nothing you can teach, will be found to be true, because your core theology rejects "Grace through Faith", as "the imputed righteousness".
Now you are the type person to change your theology, when you need to try to deceive someone.......so, we expect you to continue to do it @Episkopos .

context, that few will understand. Paul went VERY FAR in his instruction from the Lord, as I also have. My testimony is one according to resurrection life..

I read your Salvation testimoney over a year ago when you posted it to RitaJanace.
There was no "faith in Christ"......in it......There was no "forgiveness of sin".. their was no "confessing sin...there is not"trusting in Christ in it".
You talked about verss going into your eyes and how you suddenly realized you were a Christian.
So, like i said, your acid trip testimony, has nothing in it that Christianity recognizes as Salvation.
Now, i keep waiting for you to rewrite your testimony and add to it ALL that was not in it now that you know what is missing... as you are the type to do this to try to continue your charade.
= To fake it.

We are still waiting for your revised testamony now that youve been called out...regarding your bizarre original salvation testamony.., and im sure you wont be able to not do it, as you are that type that always tries to find some way to seem legitamate.

I was taught by the Holy Spirit...exactly like Paul was.

In your imagination, im sure you believe that what you teach, that you defined as "YOUR Doctrine" is true.....however, its been proven to be kinda crazy, and very self righteous........its just Legalism that you call "walking in Zion".
You should post a Thread that details how you "walk".........in Zion, as it woudl be hilarious to read it.
Ridiculous, acutally.
And keep in mind that the person who created JW, and Mormonism,... and all the "christian" cults....they all claim to be "led of the Holy Spirit". = Same as you., same as any deceiver. However once you start teaching, then you are shown to be as far from Paul's theology as any other self righteous Legalist.
The only reason you are talking about Paul more and more, is because you met ME HERE.......as im always talking about him for 5 yrs, and you are trying to ride my coat tails so that the kiddies here, might be fooled by you.
And maybe you can continue to fool some of these Mods and members........
So, That is your latest game you play on the Fourm.

See, The problem you have, is that you have claimed, and not just once, that Paul's "imputed righteousness' Gospel, is "delustion".

Now, you can try to walk that back, and change your tune and suddenly AGREE with imputed righteousness, as you are the type to do it, but it wont help you. @Episkopos
It'll just reveal you more and more.

 

[Behold]

.we are not to rest on our laurels, because after receiving that wonderful free gift, we are called to build up from there......count the cost, and seek to apprehend that for which Christ has apprehended us and run the race so as to win it....etc etc

Once we understand that we are made righteous by imputed righteousness, then we understand our Salvation is "the Gift of Righteousness". And now being "made righteous", we are to "present our body as a living sacrifice to God, which is our reasonable SERVICE".

So, our Salvation is God's imputed righteousness GIFT ..that we have received by faith, and now having been "made righteous".. we begin our SERVICE to God.., which is our daily discipleship., and this is where we produce those good works as our discipleship service to God.

The Legalist, is trying to produce the SERVICE, as their own Salvation.......not understanding that Salvaiton is God's gift of imputed righteousness. .. "The Gift of Righteousness".

Salvation is what God does for us, through the Sacrifice of Christ,

Our Discipleship is how we serve God, now that we have become "made righteous" forever.

 

[Behold]

Not sure there are two judgment seats,

There is the Great White Throne Judgement......Rev 20:11.......this is for those who Name is not written in the Lamb's book of Life.
In other words, its for the Christ rejectors, who died never born again....Its for these....John 3:36

The 2nd Judgement, is for the Christians.....its the "bema seat" or Judgement seat of Christ, where the believer is rewarded for their service to God or as the NT says......for "what you have done in my Body".
So, that is a reward banquet for each of us that is titled "the Judgment seat or Bema seat, of Christ".

2 Corin 5 : """""For we [believers will be called to account and] must all appear before the [a]judgment seat of Christ, so that each one may be repaid for what has been done in the body"""

""""For we (the born again) must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ; that every one may receive the things done in his body, according to that he hath done"""

To enter into eternal life one must still be in a state of grace at the time of their death. Read Ezekiel 18...the Lord doesn't change. And I think what happened to Ananias and Sapphira demonstrates that.

Ananias and Sapphira were not really Christians, and what happened to them, is ... 1 Thess 4:6.. Jesus took vengeance upon them, because they tried to cheat the brethren, and Jesus will stil do that today.

Also, every born again believer is....>"not under the Law, but under Grace".

So, Its our Salvation that is the imputed righteousness, that is God's Grace that we remain in or abide in.. eternally.

Salvation that is imputed righteousness is Eternal Life, and this is not temporary, and its not based on our behaivor.. its only given to us "by Faith"... "the righteousness. of Faith......and once its done, its done, its been imputed..........= born again.

Eze 18:24

But when the righteous turneth away from his righteousness, and committeth iniquity

Your verse is talking to OT Jews under the law.

Christians are "not under the Law, but under Grace".

So, if we commit carnality as a new covenant Christian, then we run into "reaping what you've sown".........but that is not God judging you for sin,

Romans 4:8 and 2 Corinthians 5:19 show us that God does not charge sin to us...... because He has already charged it to Jesus, who has died for our sin on The Cross.

"God hath made Jesus to BE SIN...for us".......as "The one time ETERNAL Sacrifice for our sin"... Paul teaches.

When a righteous man turneth away from his righteousness, and committeth iniquity, and dieth in them; for his iniquity that he hath done shall he die.

Your verse is an OT verse, and there were no Christians at that time.......so, this verse does not refer to Christians who are "not under the Law, but under Grace", and are under the NEW Covenant.

Now, no Christian can just live like the devil, as this proves you're not a Christian.......but, most Christians at times, get into some carnality, but they dont stay there......and they will pay a consequence for that time spent there.
= "reaping what you've sown".

 

[Episkopos]

Once we understand that we are made righteous by imputed righteousness, then we understand our Salvation is "the Gift of Righteousness". And now being "made righteous", we are to "present our body as a living sacrifice to God, which is our reasonable SERVICE".

This is all error based on a human understanding. No one is MADE righteous by imputed righteousness. To be imputed by God with righteousness means He deems you righteous already...just like He did with the OT "saints". God GIVES grace to the humble. He doesn't GIVE humility...that must come from us. And it isn't righteous to declare yourself righteous let alone declare you are as righteous as God. God RESISTS the proud...so you will never know the higher walk...you will continue to mock the things that are FAARR above you.

So, our Salvation is God's imputed righteousness GIFT ..that we have received by faith, and now having been "made righteous".. we begin our SERVICE to God.., which is our daily discipleship., and this is where we produce those good works as our discipleship service to God.

The "MADE" righteous is the higher righteousness that causes one to walk in resurrection life....to walk as Jesus walked. In Is. 53 it says He will make the righteous righteous....going from a human level of righteousness to an anointing in God's righteousness.

The Legalist, is trying to produce the SERVICE, as their own Salvation.......not understanding that Salvaiton is God's gift of imputed righteousness. .. "The Gift of Righteousness".

No, the faithful are they who obey the commandments to the degree they are able. The legalist rejects this service in favour of a false apprehension of a higher walk. The gift of salvation is into a higher spiritual walk in resurrection life...as Paul attests to...being translated into the kingdom of God IN Christ.

Salvation is what God does for us, through the Sacrifice of Christ,

God equips the called...through the RESURRECTION of Christ by giving us His resurrection life and power. Anything less than this standard is what men can do in their own power WITHOUT the gift of grace.

Our Discipleship is how we serve God, now that we have become "made righteous" forever.

No one is made righteous forever, unless they are translated into Zion and are able to maintain that walk through a full surrender to God's will. Then we would say...made righteous INTO forever (the eternal realm). That's how it is written in the NT.

 

[Behold]

This is all error based on a human understanding. No one is MADE righteous by imputed righteousness

Abrham was "made righteous"....by "imputed righteousness" and Paul teaches that every believer will receive the same by FAITH... and become "made rightous".
This is Romans 3 and 4.

"the righteousness of faith". = Paul's doctrine.

"Justification BY Faith". = Paul's doctrine.

A.) = "by one man's Obedience.....(Jesus going to The Cross)......many (the believers) will be MADE RIGHTOUS">

Now, your cult theology, is demonic and Cross rejecting, and only Denies Paul's Gospel that i just showed you for about the 5th time.
You can't hear it, because you are not of it, @Episkopos

No, the faithful are they who obey the commandments to the degree they are able.

The Faithful, are those who have obeyed the Gospel that Paul teaches, as this is to do ""the will of God..""
Its that you "OBEY" It.. = Paul's Gospel.

"The will of God is that you beleive on Jesus whom God sent"..

And to Obey the Gospel, is to "BELIEVE IT"........as that is how you obey "Paul's Gospel". = "All who BELIEVE shall be SAVED"..

Those who dont, will go to hell when they die, and if they are alive during the Trib.......Jesus is going to destroy them..

= "in flaming FIRE.......taking vengeance upon all who do not OBEY THE GOSPEL"......... 2 Thess

And that Gospel is Paul's Gospel.......right now...TODAY.....and its "the righteousness of Faith.. "imputued righteousness"... being "made righteous'... exaclty as Abraham was given imputed righteousness "by Faith".

God equips the called.

So does the Devil, equip his owned.
See, the Devil uses His deceived ministers to teach "doing righteousness" in place of Receiving the "Gift of Righteousness.""
The Devil's Gospel is "doing works and water baptism".. and Paul's Gospel, is "The Grace of God" that brings Salvation as "the Gift of Righteousness" to the BELIEVER....who is "made righteous".....""not by works""", but by God's "GRACE.. through Faith".

Your Gospel is cursed, as its not "The Grace of God that is the imputed Righteousness.".

You are this one.., .Galatians 1:8.
You literally keep defining yourself as this, as you keep dening "imputed righteousness" that is : Paul's Gospel.

See you there...next time again.

No one is made righteous forever,

All beleivers are "sealed (by the Holy Spirit) until the day of redemtion"...... All Believers have received "the Gift of Eternal life"..
So, this is the fruit of being "made righteousnes"...by the "imputed righteousness"....that is God's "Gift of Righteousness".

Your "own Doctrine" that you define as "your own"....has nothing to do with Paul's Gospel "of THE GRACE OF GOD".. 'Imputed Righteousess".. and in fact denies the Gospel of "The GRACE of God".. that is the "mputed Righteousness"... @Episkopos