IS THE RAPTURE BEFORE THE TRIBULATION?

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So to you, Jesus was addressing specifically to the natural water bag born men, that only they can be born again?

And He was addressing so, because probably there were 'aliens' there and are exempted from this rebirth?

Every man in Israel know of this natural human birth of the earth, and need they to be taught or reminded?

Absurd folly doctrine of the demons, you babes in Christ have picked up and brought it to the Lord's table.

Didn't Jesus disciple, "Do not make My FATHER's house a marketplace."

And, "You cannot drink the cup of the Lord, and the cup of the devils: ye cannot be partakers of the Lord's table, and of the table of devils."

Grow up from yet consuming milk and being shortsighted, to meat therefore one may be able to see afar.

John 3:3&5, Jesus is speaking about rebirth from above specifically, not from below anymore, which everyone been through and already know.

In verse 5, Jesus is talking about water from nature itself, started by John for the repentance of Israel and baptizing them in the river Jordan.

Symbolically as John proclaimed to the Israelites, repent and be water baptized, as to make a straight path for the Lord, whom is about to come.

(Water from nature used for 'washing' and 'purification' of the defiled body and things, whether at home or at the Temple, is in the Old Testament. Even to the earth being 'washed' and 'purified' by Noah's flood water and hence a new family to start anew again, is)

Therefore next, when the Lord is come, He likewise proclaimed repentance, and hence disciple the doctrine of the Kingdom making disciples who've born again and able to 'see' the Kingdom.

And when discipleship is over, He henceforth baptizes them with Holy Ghost and Fire, who've 'born of water and of the Holy Ghost' in fulfillment, and able to 'enter' the Kingdom.

This is the evidence written from the beginning of the Gospel, pertaining to proclamation of the Kingdom for repentance and water baptizing, conducted by John the Baptist and his disciples.

Since and after John, Jesus continued proclaiming and henceforth made disciples about the Kingdom, while His disciples were water baptizing .

And finally on the day of Pentecost in the book of Acts, only then the disciples were baptize with Holy Ghost and Fire.

Shalom in the name of Lord Jesus Christ
My Brother in Christ @Fred J
i do not have time at this moment but later will review your post and respond

For now = let us REJOICE in this = John 13:34-35

A new commandment I give to you, that you love one another; as I have loved you, that you also love one another.
By this all will know that you are My disciples, if you have love for one another.”
 

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My Brother in Christ @Fred J
i do not have time at this moment but later will review your post and respond

For now = let us REJOICE in this = John 13:34-35

A new commandment I give to you, that you love one another; as I have loved you, that you also love one another.
By this all will know that you are My disciples, if you have love for one another.”
As I HAVE loved you . far too many are engrossed in a love
that will not correct the sins and errors of their brother .
And that aint love .
HERE is what that kind of love truly is
YE shall not HATE your neighbor in your heart you shall in ANY WAY CORRECT HIM and not ALLOW sin upon him .
any love that wont correct , ITS NOT OF GOD and its not love , it is hate and its rebellion TO GOD .
 

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Good Morning,




You gave me a good laugh this morning - thank you
Fred J may have indeed taken it a bit far to conclude you as a child of satan for teaching this .
HOWEVER with that being said
THE WATER and THE SPIRIT JESUS spoke of has nothing to do with the water of the womb of woman
The water OF HIS WORD , BY HIS SPIRIT .
And david you have many good things you have taught and said in times past .
But they aint gonna take you serious if you keep teaching this .
Its not about the water of the womb of a baby
WHEN JESUS said WATER and SPIRIT , that is all about HIM .
Please know and understand that my friend .
 

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Fred J may have indeed taken it a bit far to conclude you as a child of satan for teaching this .
HOWEVER with that being said
THE WATER and THE SPIRIT JESUS spoke of has nothing to do with the water of the womb of woman
The water OF HIS WORD , BY HIS SPIRIT .
And david you have many good things you have taught and said in times past .
But they aint gonna take you serious if you keep teaching this .
Its not about the water of the womb of a baby
WHEN JESUS said WATER and SPIRIT , that is all about HIM .
Please know and understand that my friend .
SEE = this is how we fellowship = in love for each other.

this is a trivial disagreement because:
a.) we both AGREE in the "The Water of the Word by which Christ washes His Bride from the error of this world." = Eph 5:26
Husbands, love your wives, just as Christ loved the church and gave Himself up for her to sanctify her, cleansing her by the washing with water through the word, and to present her to Himself as a glorious church, without stain or wrinkle or any such blemish, but holy and blameless.

b.) we both know that water baptism cannot save a single soul
Eph 2:8 - For by grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God,
Hebrews 9:22 - without the shedding of Blood there is no forgiveness.

c.) we both know that the Holy Spirit is the Living Water promised by JESUS to the Samaritan woman and all who believe the words of Christ
Jesus answered and said to her, “Whoever drinks of this water will thirst again, but whoever drinks of the water that I shall give him will never thirst. But the water that I shall give him will become in him a fountain of water springing up into everlasting life.”

SHALOM
 
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So to you, Jesus was addressing specifically to the natural water bag born men, that only they can be born again?

And He was addressing so, because probably there were 'aliens' there and are exempted from this rebirth?

Every man in Israel know of this natural human birth of the earth, and need they to be taught or reminded?

Absurd folly doctrine of the demons, you babes in Christ have picked up and brought it to the Lord's table.

Didn't Jesus disciple, "Do not make My FATHER's house a marketplace."

And, "You cannot drink the cup of the Lord, and the cup of the devils: ye cannot be partakers of the Lord's table, and of the table of devils."

Grow up from yet consuming milk and being shortsighted, to meat therefore one may be able to see afar.

John 3:3&5, Jesus is speaking about rebirth from above specifically, not from below anymore, which everyone been through and already know.

In verse 5, Jesus is talking about water from nature itself, started by John for the repentance of Israel and baptizing them in the river Jordan.

Symbolically as John proclaimed to the Israelites, repent and be water baptized, as to make a straight path for the Lord, whom is about to come.

(Water from nature used for 'washing' and 'purification' of the defiled body and things, whether at home or at the Temple, is in the Old Testament. Even to the earth being 'washed' and 'purified' by Noah's flood water and hence a new family to start anew again, is)

Therefore next, when the Lord is come, He likewise proclaimed repentance, and hence disciple the doctrine of the Kingdom making disciples who've born again and able to 'see' the Kingdom.

And when discipleship is over, He henceforth baptizes them with Holy Ghost and Fire, who've 'born of water and of the Holy Ghost' in fulfillment, and able to 'enter' the Kingdom.

This is the evidence written from the beginning of the Gospel, pertaining to proclamation of the Kingdom for repentance and water baptizing, conducted by John the Baptist and his disciples.

Since and after John, Jesus continued proclaiming and henceforth made disciples about the Kingdom, while His disciples were water baptizing .

And finally on the day of Pentecost in the book of Acts, only then the disciples were baptize with Holy Ghost and Fire.

Shalom in the name of Lord Jesus Christ
#1 - John 3:5 is not John the Baptist water baptism and is NEVER alluded to by JESUS
You are adding that to this passage and that my Brother in Christ is SIN = Proverbs 30:5-6

#2 - John 3:5-6a - Jesus answered, “Most assuredly, I say to you, unless one is born of water and the Spirit, he cannot enter the kingdom of God. That which is born of the flesh is flesh, and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.
JESUS acknowleged with Nicodemus on his understanding of the natural birth process every human MUST come into the world thru WATER.
Jesus quantifies "water" as the flesh birth = John 3:6 "that which is flesh is flesh"

#3 - John 3:6b - "that which is spirit is spirit" = Jesus separates the natural birth thru water/flesh by distinguishing SPIRIT Birth

distinguish
/dĭ-stĭng′gwĭsh/

intransitive verb​

  1. To perceive as being different or distinct.
    "Can you distinguish a pattern in this behavior? "
  2. To perceive distinctly; discern.
    "The lookout distinguished the masts of ships on the horizon."
  3. To demonstrate or describe as being different or distinct
 
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#1 - John 3:5 is not John the Baptist water baptism and is NEVER alluded to by JESUS
You are adding that to this passage and that my Brother in Christ is SIN = Proverbs 30:5-6

#2 - John 3:5-6a - Jesus answered, “Most assuredly, I say to you, unless one is born of water and the Spirit, he cannot enter the kingdom of God. That which is born of the flesh is flesh, and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.
JESUS acknowleged with Nicodemus on his understanding of the natural birth process every human MUST come into the world thru WATER.
Jesus quantifies "water" as the flesh birth = John 3:6 "that which is flesh is flesh"

#3 - John 3:6b - "that which is spirit is spirit" = Jesus separates the natural birth thru water/flesh by distinguishing SPIRIT Birth

distinguish
/dĭ-stĭng′gwĭsh/

intransitive verb​

  1. To perceive as being different or distinct.
    "Can you distinguish a pattern in this behavior? "
  2. To perceive distinctly; discern.
    "The lookout distinguished the masts of ships on the horizon."
  3. To demonstrate or describe as being different or distinct
Excuse me, you too do not add that the born of water Jesus speaks about, to you is the natural water bag birth of a woman.

There's no scripture to support your fantasy theory learned of man who posses a different Jesus and spirit.

But the water by nature baptism is what Jesus is referring to as born of water testified by us, the evidence is there from the beginning of the Gospel to the book of Acts.

This has nothing to do with what Jesus added further about, that which is born of the flesh is flesh and which born of the Spirit is spirit.

Jesus is explaining to Nicodemus about two kind of birth, one according to carnality of the earth and the other according to spirituality of the Heaven.

Did anyone hear Jesus say about being born of a woman and of her water bag in the womb?

Or merely at this modern age speculate the doctrine of demons which is soothing to itching ear believers of today?

Have you not heard from Apostle Paul saying, "Even satan disguises himself as an angel of Light. And it's no surprising his servants disguises themselves as servants of righteousness."

Paul is referring to satan's human servants disguise as Christ's sent and their doctrine which constantly contradicts with the doctrine of the Apostles.

Likewise am not going to partake in your false doctrine either which contradicts the given mine in discipleship.

No thank you and GOD bless you in Jesus name.
 

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Excuse me, you too do not add that the born of water Jesus speaks about, to you is the natural water bag birth of a woman.

There's no scripture to support your fantasy theory learned of man who posses a different Jesus and spirit.

But the water by nature baptism is what Jesus is referring to as born of water testified by us, the evidence is there from the beginning of the Gospel to the book of Acts.

This has nothing to do with what Jesus added further about, that which is born of the flesh is flesh and which born of the Spirit is spirit.

Jesus is explaining to Nicodemus about two kind of birth, one according to carnality of the earth and the other according to spirituality of the Heaven.

Did anyone hear Jesus say about being born of a woman and of her water bag in the womb?

Or merely at this modern age speculate the doctrine of demons which is soothing to itching ear believers of today?

Have you not heard from Apostle Paul saying, "Even satan disguises himself as an angel of Light. And it's no surprising his servants disguises themselves as servants of righteousness."

Paul is referring to satan's human servants disguise as Christ's sent and their doctrine which constantly contradicts with the doctrine of the Apostles.

Likewise am not going to partake in your false doctrine either which contradicts the given mine in discipleship.

No thank you and GOD bless you in Jesus name.
Excuse me, you too do not add that the born of water Jesus speaks about, to you is the natural water bag birth of a woman.

There's no scripture to support
Good Morning

JESUS said to Nicodemus "you/one/human" must be born from Above = a second birth must take place

Genesis 1:27
God He created him; male and female He created them.
Then God blessed them, and God said to them, “Be fruitful and multiply" = PROCREATION of MALE/FEMALE


JESUS/the Creator points to His creation of procreation which yields water with natural birth from the woman.

John 3:3-8 Crystal CLEAR = "that which is flesh is flesh"

@Fred J = What did JESUS Say was the impetus of being Born from Above???



  1. impetus /ĭm′pĭ-təs/

    noun​

    1. An impelling force; an impulse.
    2. The force or energy associated with a moving body.

 

David in NJ

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My Brothers in Christ @Fred J @amigo de christo

John 3:3-8 points back to Genesis chapters 1 thru 3

JESUS always points us back to Genesis, Moses/Law, the Prophets and Psalms = so that we may know the Past, Present and Future
For the LORD Himself created all these things for His Glory and for His revealing to us.

@Fred J please never assume that a tiny disagreement between us means we are enemies.
We both know this our Salvation = In the beginning was the Word and the Word was with God and the Word was God.

FEAST my Brethren = feast on ALL of the Word of God that Begins in Genesis

When you do, and take nothing away nor add our own words, the Holy Spirit of Truth will Open the Scriptures more and more.

Since the Holy Spirit is the Spirit of Truth, He will never agree with that which is not according to "It is written"

2 Questions for my Brothers in Christ:
a.) Why is water baptism powerless to produce the Second Birth?
B.) Why did JESUS go to John for water baptism?
 

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Excuse me, you too do not add that the born of water Jesus speaks about, to you is the natural water bag birth of a woman.

There's no scripture to support your fantasy theory learned of man who posses a different Jesus and spirit.

Did anyone hear Jesus say about being born of a woman and of her water bag in the womb?
YES, Jesus directly acknowledged His Creation of male/female procreation to Nicodemus.

Nicodemus asked: "Can a man enter a second time into his mother's womb

Jesus says: "that which is flesh is flesh" = 1st birth thru water/woman of the physical/flesh human

1 Cor 11:12 - For as woman came from man, even so man also comes through woman; but all things are from God

Jesus says: "that which is spirit is spirit" = 2nd Birth from Above

Have you ever considered: "Thy will be done on earth as it is in Heaven"

2 Questions for my Brothers in Christ:
a.) Why is water baptism powerless to produce the Second Birth?
B.) Why did JESUS go to John for water baptism?
 

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Have you not heard from Apostle Paul saying, "Even satan disguises himself as an angel of Light. And it's no surprising his servants disguises themselves as servants of righteousness."
Paul is referring to satan's human servants disguise as Christ's sent and their doctrine which constantly contradicts with the doctrine of the Apostles.
Likewise am not going to partake in your false doctrine either which contradicts the given mine in discipleship.

The spirit that compels you to judge Christ's Blood Washed Saints is not the Holy Spirit!!!

You first committed sin when you falsely accused me of promoting "doctrines of demons" = without evidence!!!

Now you stoop even lower in playing the role of the accuser of the brethren by declaring me a "evil disguised as a servant of righteousness"

Since you are exalting water baptism above the power/authority of the Holy Spirit, that places you under the Roman Catholic Church.

Are you a disciple of the Roman Catholic Church and/or an affiliate of her?
 
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My Brothers in Christ @Fred J @amigo de christo

John 3:3-8 points back to Genesis chapters 1 thru 3

JESUS always points us back to Genesis, Moses/Law, the Prophets and Psalms = so that we may know the Past, Present and Future
For the LORD Himself created all these things for His Glory and for His revealing to us.

@Fred J please never assume that a tiny disagreement between us means we are enemies.
We both know this our Salvation = In the beginning was the Word and the Word was with God and the Word was God.

FEAST my Brethren = feast on ALL of the Word of God that Begins in Genesis

When you do, and take nothing away nor add our own words, the Holy Spirit of Truth will Open the Scriptures more and more.

Since the Holy Spirit is the Spirit of Truth, He will never agree with that which is not according to "It is written"

2 Questions for my Brothers in Christ:
a.) Why is water baptism powerless to produce the Second Birth?
B.) Why did JESUS go to John for water baptism?
Many who are water baptized have not submitted to the ONLY ONE WHO CAN PRODUCE the SECOND BIRTH
and DOES produce the second birth .
Water baptism is only to be PERFORMED AFTER one BELEIVETH .
Its but a answering to the ORIGINAL CALL of the ONE WHO CALLS HIS SHEEP .
WHY did JESUS go to john for water baptism
BECAUSE HE fullfilled all righteousness . FOR OUR SAKES . NOT FOR HIS .
But may his example be our example . WE do as HE DID , WE WALK as HE WALKED .
And a born again SHEEP knows that for THE SPIRIT IS HIS GUIDE .
And we both KNOW WHO that comforter is
that resides IN the sheep . a hint , ME AND MY FATHER SHALL ABODE ON THAT MAN .
on what man
THE MAN WHO LOVETH JESUS . WHO IS THE TRUTH , WHO IS THE LIFE , WHO IS THE WAY .
In case i didnt make it clear enough ask questions
 

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The spirit that compels you to judge Christ's Blood Washed Saints is not the Holy Spirit!!!

You first committed sin when you falsely accused me of promoting "doctrines of demons" = without evidence!!!

Now you stoop even lower in playing the role of the accuser of the brethren by declaring me a "evil disguised as a servant of righteousness"

Since you are exalting water baptism above the power/authority of the Holy Spirit, that places you under the Roman Catholic Church.

Are you a disciple of the Roman Catholic Church and/or an affiliate of her?
Allow me a quick question .
Allow me this statment first .
The nar realm is full of men and women who lead this church to their father .
Now does that statement make me an accusor of the brethren .
AND BELIEVE ME WHEN I SAY there is a massive reason i said father and NOT FATHER .
THEMS WOLVES every bit as much as the popes and others .
That dont make me the accusor of the brethren
IT means I LOVE THE BRETHREN and i dont want them ANYWHERE near these men and women of belial .
 

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The spirit that compels you to judge Christ's Blood Washed Saints is not the Holy Spirit!!!

You first committed sin when you falsely accused me of promoting "doctrines of demons" = without evidence!!!

Now you stoop even lower in playing the role of the accuser of the brethren by declaring me a "evil disguised as a servant of righteousness"

Since you are exalting water baptism above the power/authority of the Holy Spirit, that places you under the Roman Catholic Church.

Are you a disciple of the Roman Catholic Church and/or an affiliate of her?
Not all of christendom is of Christ . As i am sure you do agree .
 

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YES, Jesus directly acknowledged His Creation of male/female procreation to Nicodemus.

Nicodemus asked: "Can a man enter a second time into his mother's womb

Jesus says: "that which is flesh is flesh" = 1st birth thru water/woman of the physical/flesh human

1 Cor 11:12 - For as woman came from man, even so man also comes through woman; but all things are from God

Jesus says: "that which is spirit is spirit" = 2nd Birth from Above

Have you ever considered: "Thy will be done on earth as it is in Heaven"

2 Questions for my Brothers in Christ:
a.) Why is water baptism powerless to produce the Second Birth?
B.) Why did JESUS go to John for water baptism?
water baptism does not PRODUCE the second birth .
But those who BELEIVE ON CHRIST JESUS who are the BORN again
would do so . THE SPIRIT produces the second birth . not water of this world . GOD DOES .
 

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Many who are water baptized have not submitted to the ONLY ONE WHO CAN PRODUCE the SECOND BIRTH
and DOES produce the second birth .
Water baptism is only to be PERFORMED AFTER one BELEIVETH .
Its but a answering to the ORIGINAL CALL of the ONE WHO CALLS HIS SHEEP .
WHY did JESUS go to john for water baptism
BECAUSE HE fullfilled all righteousness . FOR OUR SAKES . NOT FOR HIS .
But may his example be our example . WE do as HE DID , WE WALK as HE WALKED .
And a born again SHEEP knows that for THE SPIRIT IS HIS GUIDE .
And we both KNOW WHO that comforter is
that resides IN the sheep . a hint , ME AND MY FATHER SHALL ABODE ON THAT MAN .
on what man
THE MAN WHO LOVETH JESUS . WHO IS THE TRUTH , WHO IS THE LIFE , WHO IS THE WAY .
In case i didnt make it clear enough ask questions
My precious Brother in Christ in whom i am indebted to God for - @amigo de christo

And, you are 100% CORRECT in saying: "water baptism does not PRODUCE the second birth
THE SPIRIT produces the second birth . not water of this world . GOD DOES ."

  • We must/should ask ourselves this:
What is the specific "righteousness" that JESUS is speaking of concerning the water baptism that HE submitted to when He went to John the Baptist?

Matthew 3:13-15
Then Jesus came from Galilee to John at the Jordan to be baptized by him.
And John tried to prevent Him, saying, “I need to be baptized by You, and are You coming to me?”

But Jesus answered and said to him, “Permit it to be so now, for thus it is fitting for us to fulfill all righteousness.” Then he allowed Him.
 
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JESUS said to Nicodemus "you/one/human" must be born from Above = a second birth must take place
Jesus' point as to the Gospel in these last days is that a person 'must be born from above' first in order to 'see' the Kingdom of GOD.

For one at the first stage of being born from above, is the intervention of GOD the FATHER personally in one's life initiating, so that the person is able to 'see' things pertaining to HIS Kingdom.

This is besides John the Baptist and Jesus the Son's role drawing and associating with the person who's able to 'see', next and further to things pertaining to the Kingdom of GOD.

For example, before Jesus, His disciples beforehand being born from above/born again and able to 'see', assuredly already responded to the preaching and water baptizing of John.

And likewise next they waited according to the same preaching of John, the coming of the Messiah Jesus, and who will baptize them forth with Holy Ghost and fire
Genesis 1:27
God He created him; male and female He created them.
Then God blessed them, and God said to them, “Be fruitful and multiply" = PROCREATION of MALE/FEMALE


JESUS/the Creator points to His creation of procreation which yields water with natural birth from the woman.

John 3:3-8 Crystal CLEAR = "that which is flesh is flesh"
These are things of the Old, as to a person who's born from below, 'that which is flesh is flesh', the first natural birth of a human being.

You're missing the point Jesus have made secondly in John 3:5, as to the same He made firstly in John 3:3, both pertaining to and focused on the 'second birth'.

Firstly the point He made in John 3:3 as to the 'second birth', is the first stage experience, that a person must be born from above/born again. The experience is, the person can now 'see', meaning, they'll be able 'see' and 'hear' eventually things pertaining to and encompassed to the Kingdom of GOD that has come to earth in these last days.

Secondly the point He made in John 3:5 likewise to the 'second birth', is the second stage of experience that a person must be born of water(water baptism) and of the Spirit(Holy Ghost). The experience is, the person can now 'enter' into eventually things pertaining to and encompassed to the Kingdom of GOD likewise.

That's why John said to the persons, "I indeed baptize you with water unto repentance: but He that cometh after me is mightier than I, whose shoes I am not worthy to bear: He shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost, and with fire."

Apparently, persons who repented are baptized with water and forth believing cum receiving Jesus, persons are baptized with the Holy Ghost, and with fire.

On the contrary, according to your 'twisted' version of John 3:5, Jesus is mixing the first birth (water) and the second birth (Spirit).

For the record, the person who came out from the first birth through the water bag in the womb is dead in sin and curse already.

Therefore your John 3:5 will read like this, Except a man be born of woman and of the Spirit, he cannot enter the Kingdom of GOD?

Apparently Jesus is telling Nicodemus differentiating two kind of man, and only the one who's born of a woman is accepted, while the other who's not is exempted.

A very well done 'twisted' Gospel of yours, keep up the bad job and find your self 'shipwrecked' one day.
 

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Allow me a quick question .
Allow me this statment first .
The nar realm is full of men and women who lead this church to their father .
Now does that statement make me an accusor of the brethren .
AND BELIEVE ME WHEN I SAY there is a massive reason i said father and NOT FATHER .
THEMS WOLVES every bit as much as the popes and others .
That dont make me the accusor of the brethren
IT means I LOVE THE BRETHREN and i dont want them ANYWHERE near these men and women of belial .
@amigo de christo
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For one at the first stage of being born from above, is the intervention of GOD the FATHER personally in one's life initiating, so that the person is able to 'see' things pertaining to HIS Kingdom.
Why do i say being born from above, is the intervention of GOD the FATHER in a person's life besides Jesus (John3:3)?

This is because of the incident between Peter and Jesus, as Peter answered, "You are Christ, Son of the Living GOD."

And Jesus responded by saying, "Simon son of Jonah, you did not know this on your own but My FATHER in Heaven have revealed it to you."

Just as i've been given and testified in my post before this, that those born from above can 'see' the Kingdom of GOD.
 

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My precious Brother in Christ in whom i am indebted to God for - @amigo de christo

And, you are 100% CORRECT in saying: "water baptism does not PRODUCE the second birth
THE SPIRIT produces the second birth . not water of this world . GOD DOES ."

  • We must/should ask ourselves this:
What is the specific "righteousness" that JESUS is speaking of concerning the water baptism that HE submitted to when He went to John the Baptist?

Matthew 3:13-15
Then Jesus came from Galilee to John at the Jordan to be baptized by him.
And John tried to prevent Him, saying, “I need to be baptized by You, and are You coming to me?”

But Jesus answered and said to him, “Permit it to be so now, for thus it is fitting for us to fulfill all righteousness.” Then he allowed Him.
Jesus fullfilled the righteousness of the law .
 

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Jesus fullfilled the righteousness of the law .
Good Morning
Within the realm of God's righteous acts that He performed in and for Moses/Israel, there is a specific act that JESUS is referencing when He submitted to John the Baptist for water baptism.

John the Baptist new exactly, as did JESUS = and so do you(it will come to you)

SHALOM