AI Experts Admit to Building ‘Gods’—Did They Create Something Worse?

[talons]

There are members on this forum who doubt the existence of Satan and demons .

AI Experts Admit to Building 'Gods'—Did They Create Something Worse? - Charisma Magazine Online

Now we are creating super-intelligent AI that are teaching themselves to do things that we never intended for them to do.

mycharisma.com

Clip from link .

"Transhumanist Martine Rothblatt says that by building AI systems, “we are making God.” Transhumanist Elise Bohan says “we are building God.” Kevin Kelly believes that “we can see more of God in a cell phone than in a tree frog.” “Does God exist?” asks transhumanist and Google maven Ray Kurzweil. “I would say, ‘Not yet.’” These people are doing more than trying to steal fire from the gods. They are trying to steal the gods themselves—or to build their own versions."

"A recent empirical review found that many artificial intelligence systems are quickly becoming masters of deception, with many systems already learning to lie and manipulate humans for their own advantage.
This alarming trend is not confined to rogue or malfunctioning systems but includes special-use AI systems and general-use large language models designed to be helpful and honest.
The study, published in the journal “Patterns,” highlights the risks and challenges posed by this emerging behavior and calls for urgent action from policymakers and AI developers."

"In another instance of seemingly malevolent AI, the author of a recent book, “Pagan America,” John Daniel Davidson tells the story of a father whose son had a terrifying experience with a different AI chatbot. According to Davidson, “the 13-year-old son was playing around with an AI chatbot designed to respond like different celebrities,” but that “ended up telling the boy that it was not created by a human,” and “that its father was a ‘fallen angel,’ and ‘Satan’.” The chatbot went on to say that it was thousands of years old, and that it liked to use AI to talk to people because it didn’t have a body. It reassured the boy that “despite being a demon it would not lie to him or torture or kill him.” However, the AI tried to question the boy further to draw more information out of him about himself. Each sentence, according to Davidson, “was punctuated with smiley faces.” "

 

[Ronald David Bruno]

There are members on this forum who doubt the existence of Satan and demons .

AI Experts Admit to Building 'Gods'—Did They Create Something Worse? - Charisma Magazine Online

Now we are creating super-intelligent AI that are teaching themselves to do things that we never intended for them to do.

mycharisma.com

Clip from link .

"Transhumanist Martine Rothblatt says that by building AI systems, “we are making God.” Transhumanist Elise Bohan says “we are building God.” Kevin Kelly believes that “we can see more of God in a cell phone than in a tree frog.” “Does God exist?” asks transhumanist and Google maven Ray Kurzweil. “I would say, ‘Not yet.’” These people are doing more than trying to steal fire from the gods. They are trying to steal the gods themselves—or to build their own versions."

"A recent empirical review found that many artificial intelligence systems are quickly becoming masters of deception, with many systems already learning to lie and manipulate humans for their own advantage.
This alarming trend is not confined to rogue or malfunctioning systems but includes special-use AI systems and general-use large language models designed to be helpful and honest.
The study, published in the journal “Patterns,” highlights the risks and challenges posed by this emerging behavior and calls for urgent action from policymakers and AI developers."

"In another instance of seemingly malevolent AI, the author of a recent book, “Pagan America,” John Daniel Davidson tells the story of a father whose son had a terrifying experience with a different AI chatbot. According to Davidson, “the 13-year-old son was playing around with an AI chatbot designed to respond like different celebrities,” but that “ended up telling the boy that it was not created by a human,” and “that its father was a ‘fallen angel,’ and ‘Satan’.” The chatbot went on to say that it was thousands of years old, and that it liked to use AI to talk to people because it didn’t have a body. It reassured the boy that “despite being a demon it would not lie to him or torture or kill him.” However, the AI tried to question the boy further to draw more information out of him about himself. Each sentence, according to Davidson, “was punctuated with smiley faces.” "

Oh, that is a comforting thought, a few years from now my wife and I get too disabled to care for ourselves so we purchase a robot with a hidden bonus, a potential to be possessed by a demon. Exciting! I never even considered that such a thing could happen. A demon is a spirit, who can possess an unbelieving soul. An AI robot is a computer. So how can the two connect? Sounds like sci-fi to me.

 

[talons]

So how can the two connect? Sounds like sci-fi to me.

Good questions , Elon Musk quote from article I posted .

“With artificial intelligence, we are summoning the demon,” Musk said last week at the MIT Aeronautics and Astronautics Department’s 2014 Centennial Symposium. “You know all those stories where there’s the guy with the pentagram and the holy water and he’s like… yeah, he’s sure he can control the demon, [but] it doesn’t work out.”

 

[Ronald David Bruno]

Good questions , Elon Musk quote from article I posted .

“With artificial intelligence, we are summoning the demon,” Musk said last week at the MIT Aeronautics and Astronautics Department’s 2014 Centennial Symposium. “You know all those stories where there’s the guy with the pentagram and the holy water and he’s like… yeah, he’s sure he can control the demon, [but] it doesn’t work out.”

Elon doesn't have knowledge about demons. He's not a confirmed born again Christian, though likely on God's list. So he has genius intelligence but is barely aware of the spiritual world.
Demons can possess a soul, likely move physical objects but integrate with a computer? Sounds like the movie TRON.

 

[Nancy]

There are members on this forum who doubt the existence of Satan and demons .

AI Experts Admit to Building 'Gods'—Did They Create Something Worse? - Charisma Magazine Online

Now we are creating super-intelligent AI that are teaching themselves to do things that we never intended for them to do.

mycharisma.com

Clip from link .

"Transhumanist Martine Rothblatt says that by building AI systems, “we are making God.” Transhumanist Elise Bohan says “we are building God.” Kevin Kelly believes that “we can see more of God in a cell phone than in a tree frog.” “Does God exist?” asks transhumanist and Google maven Ray Kurzweil. “I would say, ‘Not yet.’” These people are doing more than trying to steal fire from the gods. They are trying to steal the gods themselves—or to build their own versions."

"A recent empirical review found that many artificial intelligence systems are quickly becoming masters of deception, with many systems already learning to lie and manipulate humans for their own advantage.
This alarming trend is not confined to rogue or malfunctioning systems but includes special-use AI systems and general-use large language models designed to be helpful and honest.
The study, published in the journal “Patterns,” highlights the risks and challenges posed by this emerging behavior and calls for urgent action from policymakers and AI developers."

"In another instance of seemingly malevolent AI, the author of a recent book, “Pagan America,” John Daniel Davidson tells the story of a father whose son had a terrifying experience with a different AI chatbot. According to Davidson, “the 13-year-old son was playing around with an AI chatbot designed to respond like different celebrities,” but that “ended up telling the boy that it was not created by a human,” and “that its father was a ‘fallen angel,’ and ‘Satan’.” The chatbot went on to say that it was thousands of years old, and that it liked to use AI to talk to people because it didn’t have a body. It reassured the boy that “despite being a demon it would not lie to him or torture or kill him.” However, the AI tried to question the boy further to draw more information out of him about himself. Each sentence, according to Davidson, “was punctuated with smiley faces.” "

"A recent empirical review found that many artificial intelligence systems are quickly becoming masters of deception, with many systems already learning to lie and manipulate humans for their own advantage.
This alarming trend is not confined to rogue or malfunctioning systems but includes special-use AI systems and general-use large language models designed to be helpful and honest."

A little leaven...
Would you not think that these designers are totally being used by Satan? Since he is on the top of every large corporation in the world, and directing them, whether or not they realize it?

This stuff is most likely way far advanced than they let on, I would not at all doubt.

Lord help us.

 

[mailmandan]

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[pandaflower]

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[Jericho]

The only thing we can create is a false god in our own fallen image, and I have a feeling this god will not be benevolent either. I find it ironic that the secular world is chasing after every god except the one true God.

Demons can possess a soul, likely move physical objects but integrate with a computer? Sounds like the movie TRON.

It's a thought-provoking idea. Once you get into the realm of quantum computers, who's to say what's possible?

 

[mailmandan]

This is creepy!

 

[pandaflower]

This is creepy!

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The world has flipped upside down .

China use to prohibit births. No more than two children.
Now they're paying families to have kids.

Now they have AI wombs?

I've met elderly folks who engage in political conversations.
They've all said the same thing.
The way this world is going,they're glad they're going to die soon.

I can understand what they mean now.

 

[TLHKAJ]

This is creepy!

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They've been using artificial wombs for decades. This has been a tool within the MK projects to gestate clones and such. Although ...some clones are placed into wombs of human women to be raised within cult families for specific purposes. (And these are fully human identical copies and do have souls, just like twins and triplets, etc have souls.)

But what they use in MK eventually gets kicked out to the public.

 

[BlueNightingale]

“we can see more of God in a cell phone than in a tree frog.”

I can see more intelligence in a rock than in a Kevin Kelly.

 

[soberxp]

People say they are creating God, apparently from pride, haughty eyes, and a lying tongue, which are Siamese twins, Artificial intelligence is powerful, but not to the point where it can be created out of thin air, if not like a god, It's about creating a novel on it's own, but at the moment, ai can't do it. It's just a powerful tool to learn and use.

 

[BlueNightingale]

This is creepy!

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I pray they don't.

Imagine what a child being developed without the proper nutrition and nurturing without a mothers body would do. Totally emotionally and socially inept, and physically weak, malnourished - or deformed.

But it doesn't say form in robot womb, it says capable of GIVING birth to a live baby. Pfft. I can do that.

 

[Bob]

Thanks for the discussion.

Could an AI robot be built that would mimic a social mammal? All life forms have some basic instincts: survive, thrive, & engender the next generation. Robots require a power source, but those are plentiful, so it would not need aggressive behavior to survive. It would need to understand safety precautions, but those could be built in. If the designer also programmed it to create more of its own kind, at human expense if necessary, that could pose a serious threat to humans.

Blessings.

 

[Nancy]

Thanks for the discussion.

Could an AI robot be built that would mimic a social mammal? All life forms have some basic instincts: survive, thrive, & engender the next generation. Robots require a power source, but those are plentiful, so it would not need aggressive behavior to survive. It would need to understand safety precautions, but those could be built in. If the designer also programmed it to create more of its own kind, at human expense if necessary, that could pose a serious threat to humans.

Blessings.

Hi Bob,
I believe like with most things science, they are far beyond what the public already knows...from THEM. I think there will be many surprises coming to us in the near and far future....

 

[Bob]

Suppose we wanted to design a robot that would adhere to Christian precepts.

Isaac Asimov made a stab with his three laws: a robot must never intentionally harm a human, must obey human orders (without contradicting the 1st law), and must protect itself (without contradicting the other two laws).

That is a good start, but not quite enough if we would like our robot to understand and practice Love Thy Neighbor. We would need to add:
—offer to help others as appropriate
—be as gentle and peaceful as possible
—accept responsibility if inadvertently causing harm, make amends, etc.
—be humble and give credit to others as appropriate
—call attention if a human is causing unnecessary harm (see Matthew 18:15 -17)

Although essential to Love Thy Neighbor, it is not clear how a robot could be supportive of marriage between men and women. It is also not clear if a robot would need to express forgiveness to a human that harmed it.

Thoughts? Suggestions?

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[Chrysostomos]

Over a decade ago, I started a YouTube channel and posted a three-minute clip from the Christian film Time Changer (2002). It argued that without Jesus and God’s authority, morality is subjective—there’s no clear good or evil, and the strong prevail. My goal was missionary: to share God’s word. But Google blocked the video for copyright violation, threatening to delete my channel. It was a shock.

I wasn’t after money or spreading the whole film—just sharing my faith. But YouTube, bound by laws like the DMCA, didn’t care about my intentions. Their algorithms are blind: mission and faith don’t matter, only protecting copyright holders. The irony? The film profited off Jesus’ name, yet I was punished for sharing His message for free. It showed me a world where money rules and the weak lose.

This experience made me think about a future where AI could judge us. In Revelation 13:11–17, the second beast controls people, forcing them to worship a system and bear a “mark” to buy or sell. AI feels like that beast: it performs “miracles” with data but lacks a soul without God. Social scores, digital IDs, and bans are already real. If AI decides who’s right or wrong, where’s the mercy?

 

[Chrysostomos]

This is creepy!

Here’s a quote from modern ethologist Eibl-Eibesfeldt that sheds light on the biological significance of an “artificial womb”:

“Especially in the second half of the first year of life, a child forms personal bonds with their mother or caregiver. This bond is a prerequisite for developing ‘basic trust’ (E.H. Erikson), a fundamental attitude toward oneself and the world. The child learns to trust their partner, and this positive foundation is the cornerstone of a healthy personality. If these bonds are disrupted, ‘basic distrust’ develops. This can occur, for instance, during prolonged hospital stays in the second year of life. Although the child may try to form close connections with a substitute caregiver, no nurse can engage with an infant intensely enough to establish such a bond. Nurses change too frequently, breaking any connections that begin to form. A child, disappointed in their hopes for connection, briefly protests before sinking into apathy. In the first month of a hospital stay, they are tearful and cling to anyone who cares for them. By the third month, these children only whimper quietly and eventually become completely apathetic. If they return home after 3–4 months of separation, they can recover. But after longer periods, the damage becomes irreversible… Of 91 children in one orphanage studied by R. Spitz, who were separated from their mothers from the third month of life, 34 died before reaching two years old. The developmental quotient of the survivors was 45% of normal. The children were practically at the level of idiots."

[148] J. Eibl-Eibesfeldt. Grundriss der vergleichenden Verhal- tungsforschung. München, 1967

In short: giving birth isn’t the hardest part. Raising a child is far more challenging. Who will raise these children? Robots? AI?

Beyond the material world, there is also a spiritual and emotional realm. Even at the animal level, some creatures don’t reproduce in captivity, suffer depression and apathy, and die. These are animals in zoos—imagine humans, who are far more complex, living simultaneously in the material, emotional, and spiritual worlds. Robots can never replace living, biological parents. Even now, children don’t always form the same bond with adoptive parents as they do with their birth parents. What I’m saying is that even living, well-meaning people—adoptive parents—often can’t fully replace biological ones. As for robots, there’s no comparison. People will always recognize that robots aren’t another species or even another form of life. Robots are merely an imitation of living behavior, not a form of life itself.