Doctrinolatry - tribalism and division in the Body of Christ
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His analogy compares God to an ill intentioned city engineer. In other words, maligning God.
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Behold
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The reason God drowned humanity in that Judgement flood, is the same reason He burned sexual perverts into ash, as recorded in the same Book in the bible. (Gen.)
The reason is...... mankind had become so defiled....so, evil, that the only thing they had in their heart to do next was more and more evil.
This literally became humanity......men, women and children.
The Bible defines this as a "seared conscience".
So, that means that they were beyond redeeming....they were literally Evil itself, and so God ended it.
When Jesus comes back, He's going to do something very similar to a large part of humanity and they wont be going to Heaven, after He's finished with them.
2 Thess 1:8-9
Behold
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Here, let me post the Genesis verses for you to deny. @St. SteVen
"""""The LORD saw how great the wickedness of the human race had become on the earth, and that every inclination of the thoughts of the human heart was only EVIL = all the time......The LORD regretted that he had made human beings on the earth, and his heart was deeply troubled........So the LORD said, “I will wipe from the face of the earth the human race I have created.""""
When you consider the alternative, no! God didn't destroy everything that had the breath of life for no good reason, rather to begin again and save some people through the Seed (Christ) that would not be corrupted by evil. For clearly left to themselves, no people would be saved.
I guess if all people are God's children regardless if they have faith or not, apparently everyone is the body of Christ. - That is basically what Steven suggests.
Idk universalism is just weird. I do believe God lives within us all, though we are ourselves are not God, and that we either wake up to the newness of life in Yeshua, and allow God to work on our minds and hearts, or we stay dead spiritually, not waking up to newness of life.
God is the life giver and life taker. I'm okay with him taking my life when he gets ready. Sometimes I ask him to take it ... he doesnt.
Idk universalism is just weird. I do believe God lives within us all, though we are ourselves are not God, and that we either wake up to the newness of life in Yeshua, and allow God to work on our minds and hearts, or we stay dead spiritually, not waking up to newness of life.
God is the life giver and life taker. I'm okay with him taking my life when he gets ready. Sometimes I ask him to take it ... he doesnt.
I don't get why basing one's life on the whole premise of...
Jesus having saved people from sin, death, and Satan—“He has delivered us from the power of darkness and conveyed us into the kingdom of the Son of His love” (Colossians 1:13)—and that the wrath of God was poured out on Israel—“For these are the days of vengeance, that all things which are written may be fulfilled” (Luke 21:22).
That everyone is just instantly saved into the Kingdom of God... While it's a great sentiment, there is an outside and inside of the kingdom, with gates that never close—“Its gates shall not be shut at all by day (there shall be no night there)” (Revelation 21:25), and “Outside are the dogs and sorcerers and sexually immoral and murderers and idolaters, and everyone who loves and practices falsehood” (Revelation 22:15).
It's not about being divisive; it's about sharing the reality of what is there in the Bible and not hiding from those things one can't fathom—“For I have not shunned to declare to you the whole counsel of God” (Acts 20:27).
Though many people are scared of God... they are terrified of Him because that's all they've ever heard their whole life—that God hates them. Yet Scripture says, “There is no fear in love; but perfect love casts out fear, because fear involves torment. But he who fears has not been made perfect in love” (1 John 4:18).
It's rather sad.
I guess it takes less work. I aint judging I just being honest about what I see... I do judge people on their honesty these days.
I can't judge someone and their salvation, and I cant never judge where a heart is cause no one can. Only Yeshua was able to read the hearts of people, he is far better in that than I ever could be.
Jesus having saved people from sin, death, and Satan—“He has delivered us from the power of darkness and conveyed us into the kingdom of the Son of His love” (Colossians 1:13)—and that the wrath of God was poured out on Israel—“For these are the days of vengeance, that all things which are written may be fulfilled” (Luke 21:22).
That everyone is just instantly saved into the Kingdom of God... While it's a great sentiment, there is an outside and inside of the kingdom, with gates that never close—“Its gates shall not be shut at all by day (there shall be no night there)” (Revelation 21:25), and “Outside are the dogs and sorcerers and sexually immoral and murderers and idolaters, and everyone who loves and practices falsehood” (Revelation 22:15).
It's not about being divisive; it's about sharing the reality of what is there in the Bible and not hiding from those things one can't fathom—“For I have not shunned to declare to you the whole counsel of God” (Acts 20:27).
Though many people are scared of God... they are terrified of Him because that's all they've ever heard their whole life—that God hates them. Yet Scripture says, “There is no fear in love; but perfect love casts out fear, because fear involves torment. But he who fears has not been made perfect in love” (1 John 4:18).
It's rather sad.
I guess it takes less work. I aint judging I just being honest about what I see... I do judge people on their honesty these days.
I can't judge someone and their salvation, and I cant never judge where a heart is cause no one can. Only Yeshua was able to read the hearts of people, he is far better in that than I ever could be.
amigo de christo
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It was predetermined THAT ALL WHO DO BELEIVE IN JESUS THE CHRIST would be saved .
IT was predetermined that all who reject HIM will face DESTRUCTION at their end .
SO how about we preach JESUS and not rather some other diverse jesus with a big ol broad road path.
For it pleased the FATHER that by preaching to SAVE THOSE WHO BELEIVE . Who what , WHO BELIEVE
enjoy the latter rhyme . cause STEVE , its high time we preach the dire need ON JESUS CHRIST to BELIEVE .
amigo de christo
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Well it darn sure aint the global peace plan . that plan is gonna BE THE TOTAL Genocide OF this planet
and all who partook of the lie .
JESUS was and is the solution FOR SALVATION .
unbelief is only to remain in SLAVATION and death and to face the second death .
Time to remind this church age
of the very gospel it has omi tted . YOU KNOW the one that SAID THEY MUST BELIEVE TO BE SAVED
and to those who did not , PERISH . that ONE . cause this other kuymbia universalism , YEAH IT AINT SAVING sqaut
le didly doo de doodoo .
In fact it has called THE ONE WHO SAID YE MUST BELEIVE TO BE SAVED
and far worse for Those who beleived not THAN E VER it was for sodom , A LIAR .
Believe me steve no one wants to call JESUS A LIAR . Cause if we do we JUST CALLED GOD A LIAR . and woe unto those
who do such a thing .
You mean global flood! It was not global genocide for every man because 8 souls were saved.
More like saved for global renovation on the new earth. Whosoever is born again through the Spirit of Christ in us will have life forever in the age to come.
Ronald Nolette
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No, I have terrible arthritis and sometimes screw spelling up. when I am in a rush I ignore spellcheck.
Ronald Nolette
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Genesis 6
King James Version
6 And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them,2 That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose.
3 And the Lord said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years.
4 There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.
5 And God saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.
6 And it repented the Lord that he had made man on the earth, and it grieved him at his heart.
7 And the Lord said, I will destroy man whom I have created from the face of the earth; both man, and beast, and the creeping thing, and the fowls of the air; for it repenteth me that I have made them.
2 reasons.
1. Mans wickedness forced God's patient hand.
2. The sons of God spoken of here are angels who left heaven and were later punished. God promised a Messiah in Genesis 3 and it was to be humn. the human race was becoming a hybrid of angelic/human type so God had to destroy it lest it stop Jesus from coming to earth.
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