The Mark of the Beast is here!

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Moving back on to the topic of this thread: "The Mark of the Beast is here", I am hoping that all born again Christians understand that no one is going to come out from the world's side of the fence and say: Hey, all of you Christians, be careful the Mark of the Beast is here.

Not the world's side, no.

Revelation 14:9-11 LITV
9) And a third angel followed them, saying in a great voice, If anyone worships the beast and its image, and receives a mark on his forehead, or in his hand,
10) he also shall drink of the wine of the anger of God having been mixed undiluted in the cup of His wrath. And he will be tormented by fire and brimstone before the holy angels and before the Lamb.
11) And the smoke of their torment goes up forever and ever. And those worshiping the beast and its image have no rest night and day, even if anyone receives the mark of its name.

Much love!

 

[Earburner]

Not the world's side, no.

Revelation 14:9-11 LITV
9) And a third angel followed them, saying in a great voice, If anyone worships the beast and its image, and receives a mark on his forehead, or in his hand,
10) he also shall drink of the wine of the anger of God having been mixed undiluted in the cup of His wrath. And he will be tormented by fire and brimstone before the holy angels and before the Lamb.
11) And the smoke of their torment goes up forever and ever. And those worshiping the beast and its image have no rest night and day, even if anyone receives the mark of its name.

Much love!

So then, what if many church pastors, church leaders etc. don't recognize the "MoB", when it is manifested, simply because it isn't described according to their preconceived church biblical doctrines of what men say?

Will it literally be as Rev. 13:16-18 describes it verbatim, or something that mimics the words in Rev. but achieves the same results?
[16] And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:
[17] And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.

If I were to tell you that the "mark" is for individuals, the "name" is for governments, and the "number" is for businesses, would you be able to understand that, or would you balk at it and call it heresy?

The key to unlocking what I just revealed is found in the words of Rev. 13:18, in comparison to who wise king Solomon was, and how he had to deal with the number "six hundred threescore and six".
Rev. 13[18] Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number OF a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.
Please see 1 Kings 10:13-18

Who is "he", who was a man?
The man's meaning/reasoning about gold was different than how we relate to gold, in comparison to the number of "Six hundred, threescore and six talents of gold, that he received in one year **.

Q. What did that man do with his six hundred, threescore and six talents of gold?
A. He made targets, shields and a throne out of it.

Q. What do we do with gold?
A. We "buy and sell" things with it.

Note **Do you know what "Universal Basic Income" (UBI) is, and why it will be necessary for all people to participate, and how long it will go on?
If not, it's time for some research.

Edit: please note that I did not use the typical numerical number of the beast. The reason being is when it is used, it creates all kinds of preconceived imagery that sometimes borders that of an illustrated Bible for children.

 

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So then, what if many church pastors, church leaders etc. don't recognize the "MoB", when it is manifested, simply because it isn't described according to their preconceived church biblical doctrines of what men say?

The same as would be if it doesn't happen as you think, I imagine.

Much love!

 

[marks]

So then, what if many church pastors, church leaders etc. don't recognize the "MoB", when it is manifested, simply because it isn't described according to their preconceived church biblical doctrines of what men say?

Again, the angel warns men:

Revelation 14:9-11 LITV
9) And a third angel followed them, saying in a great voice, If anyone worships the beast and its image, and receives a mark on his forehead, or in his hand,
10) he also shall drink of the wine of the anger of God having been mixed undiluted in the cup of His wrath. And he will be tormented by fire and brimstone before the holy angels and before the Lamb.
11) And the smoke of their torment goes up forever and ever. And those worshiping the beast and its image have no rest night and day, even if anyone receives the mark of its name.


This will be in context to what is happening in the world. I don't think there will be any confusion. This will be God telling the world, the end is almost here, it's time for your Final Answer.

Much love!


Much love!

 

[Earburner]

The same as would be if it doesn't happen as you think, I imagine.

Much love!

So you say, as it would also be for you. But, as you can see, mine does not have a religious spin on it.

 

[Earburner]

Again, the angel warns men:

Revelation 14:9-11 LITV
9) And a third angel followed them, saying in a great voice, If anyone worships the beast and its image, and receives a mark on his forehead, or in his hand,
10) he also shall drink of the wine of the anger of God having been mixed undiluted in the cup of His wrath. And he will be tormented by fire and brimstone before the holy angels and before the Lamb.
11) And the smoke of their torment goes up forever and ever. And those worshiping the beast and its image have no rest night and day, even if anyone receives the mark of its name.


This will be in context to what is happening in the world. I don't think there will be any confusion. This will be God telling the world, the end is almost here, it's time for your Final Answer.

Much love!


Much love!

That's correct. We must understand that prophetic events and situations is realism that becomes recorded history and not fabrications by religious spin "Doctors of Divinity", aka church-ianity.

For all of that, even Pastors of churches should take heed of why they themselves and some of their members will fall away, thus fulfilling 2 Thes. 2[3] Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
Edit:
Btw, Though most would not agree with me in my interpretation of how 2 Thes. 2:3 should be read and applied, I no longer view the words: "that man of sin", "the son of perdition", "the natural man" as being in the singular, but rather in the PLURAL.
Fact: Judas Iscarriot is not the only "son of perdition". Since that is the case, then we can safely say that every unsaved man is "the son of perdition", "that man of sin", who are "the natural man".

Even the words: "that spirit of antichrist" is that singular spirit of satan, who enters and infects many (plural) of the unsaved who then become "many antichrists".
Therefore, in the KJV, one will not find the words "THE Antichrist" written together. However, many of the newer Bible versions blatantly insert it to be so.

 

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That's correct. We must understand that prophetic events and situations is realism that becomes recorded history and not fabrications by religious spin "Doctors of Divinity", aka church-ianity.

Or fabrications, or convoluted theories going way beyond the text, by just anybody!

Much love!

 

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mine does not have a religious spin on it.

? Not sure what you mean here.

Much love!

 

[Earburner]

? Not sure what you mean here.

Much love!

When one looks at prophecy that was fulfilled in the past, most all of it was nothing more than manifestations in realism, which becomes history in the reality of time

 

[Earburner]

Or fabrications, or convoluted theories going way beyond the text, by just anybody!

Much love!

Given the level of technology and science that man has excelled to in the past 100 years, in comparison to the past 6000+/- years, speaks volumes about our ability to speculate. We can almost predict where and when technology and science are headed, in order to acheive, manifest, and implement the MoB on a global scale.

What is programmable, digitized, invisible money? Neither Ceasar of Rome or John of Rev. could imagine it.
BUT WE CAN!

 

[marks]

Given the level of technology and science that man has excelled to in the past 100 years, in comparison to the past 6000+/- years, speaks volumes about our ability to speculate. We can almost predict where and when technology and science are headed, in order to acheive, manifest, and implement the MoB on a global scale.

What is programmable, digitized, invisible money? Neither Ceasar of Rome or John of Rev. could imagine it.
BUT WE CAN!

Feel free to use your imagination, and you can consider me narrow and limited, as I limit myself narrowly to the text.

Much love!

 

[MatthewG]

I don't buy it. That is just me personally. So much of this end time stuff just keeps your eyes on the world, and not the faith that overcomes it.

 

[Earburner]

I don't buy it. That is just me personally. So much of this end time stuff just keeps your eyes on the world, and not the faith that overcomes it.

Mat. 25
[1] Then shall the kingdom of heaven be likened unto ten virgins, which took their lamps, and went forth to meet the bridegroom.
[2] And five of them were wise, and five were foolish.
[3] They that were foolish took their lamps, and took no oil with them:
[4] But the wise took oil in their vessels with their lamps.
[5] While the bridegroom tarried, they all slumbered and slept.
[6] And at midnight there was a cry made, Behold, the bridegroom cometh; go ye out to meet him.
[7] Then all those virgins arose, and trimmed their lamps.
[8] And the foolish said unto the wise, Give us of your oil; for our lamps are gone out.
[9] But the wise answered, saying, Not so; lest there be not enough for us and you: but go ye rather to them that sell, and buy for yourselves.
[10] And while they went to buy, the bridegroom came; and they that were ready went in with him to the marriage: and the door was shut.
[11] Afterward came also the other virgins, saying, Lord, Lord, open to us.
[12] But he answered and said, Verily I say unto you, I know you not.
[13] Watch therefore, for ye know neither the day nor the hour wherein the Son of man cometh.

Mark 13
[31] Heaven and earth shall pass away: but my words shall not pass away.
[32] But of that day and that hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels which are in heaven, neither the Son, but the Father.
[33] Take ye heed, watch and pray: for ye know not when the time is.
[34] For the Son of man is as a man taking a far journey, who left his house, and gave authority to his servants, and to every man his work, and commanded the porter to watch.
[35] Watch ye therefore: for ye know not when the master of the house cometh, at even, or at midnight, or at the cockcrowing, or in the morning:
[36] Lest coming suddenly he find you sleeping.
[37] And what I say unto you, I say unto all, Watch.

 

[MatthewG]

Mat. 25
[1] Then shall the kingdom of heaven be likened unto ten virgins, which took their lamps, and went forth to meet the bridegroom.
[2] And five of them were wise, and five were foolish.
[3] They that were foolish took their lamps, and took no oil with them:
[4] But the wise took oil in their vessels with their lamps.
[5] While the bridegroom tarried, they all slumbered and slept.
[6] And at midnight there was a cry made, Behold, the bridegroom cometh; go ye out to meet him.
[7] Then all those virgins arose, and trimmed their lamps.
[8] And the foolish said unto the wise, Give us of your oil; for our lamps are gone out.
[9] But the wise answered, saying, Not so; lest there be not enough for us and you: but go ye rather to them that sell, and buy for yourselves.
[10] And while they went to buy, the bridegroom came; and they that were ready went in with him to the marriage: and the door was shut.
[11] Afterward came also the other virgins, saying, Lord, Lord, open to us.
[12] But he answered and said, Verily I say unto you, I know you not.
[13] Watch therefore, for ye know neither the day nor the hour wherein the Son of man cometh.

Mark 13
[31] Heaven and earth shall pass away: but my words shall not pass away.
[32] But of that day and that hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels which are in heaven, neither the Son, but the Father.
[33] Take ye heed, watch and pray: for ye know not when the time is.
[34] For the Son of man is as a man taking a far journey, who left his house, and gave authority to his servants, and to every man his work, and commanded the porter to watch.
[35] Watch ye therefore: for ye know not when the master of the house cometh, at even, or at midnight, or at the cockcrowing, or in the morning:
[36] Lest coming suddenly he find you sleeping.
[37] And what I say unto you, I say unto all, Watch.

Hey Earburner,
When I read those texts, I see them as being directed to a specific audience in that moment of history. For me personally, they don’t speak to watching or waiting for Jesus in the same way.


That said, I do believe those people didn’t know the exact time or day of His coming—but they recognized the signs, stayed alert, and eventually saw Him and were taken. That’s how I understand it.


Even without hard proof, it’s still a valid view. And one thing I do know for sure: none of us knows the hour or day of our death. That truth still stands.

Grace and peace,
Matthew

 

[Earburner]

I don't buy it. That is just me personally. So much of this end time stuff just keeps your eyes on the world, and not the faith that overcomes it.

BTW, if the "mind of Christ" is within you, you already have the faith that overcomes the world. It's called "the faith of Jesus".

 

[MatthewG]

BTW, if the "mind of Christ" is within you, you already have the faith that overcomes the world. It's called "the faith of Jesus".

Earburner,

Oh okay.

Thank you,
Matthew

 

[Earburner]

Hey Earburner,
When I read those texts, I see them as being directed to a specific audience in that moment of history. For me personally, they don’t speak to watching or waiting for Jesus in the same way.


That said, I do believe those people didn’t know the exact time or day of His coming—but they recognized the signs, stayed alert, and eventually saw Him and were taken. That’s how I understand it.


Even without hard proof, it’s still a valid view. And one thing I do know for sure: none of us knows the hour or day of our death. That truth still stands.

Grace and peace,
Matthew

Hey @MatthewG
I have entertained the view that the Lord's return to us is at the time of our mortal death. Therefore, I do not disagree with that, but also I do not negate the fact that one day He shall suddenly appear to all the world, in all His Immortal Glory, in flaming fire.
That last generation, who are alive in that Day, and are saved beforehand by faith, shall be changed in an instant into the likeness of His Immortality, and shall be with the Lord forever.
2 Thes. 1:7-10 and Luke 17:28-30

 

[MatthewG]

Earburner,

How cool is that! Thank you for sharing. I do, too, believe people will find Jesus in the lake of fire who are outside of the Heavenly Kingdom today. I wonder if we will be given some work to do, and help them come to the Lord Yeshua, even in the afterlife. Who is to say. I do believe Jesus has come, and still comes today to the hearts that choose to believe on him. He gives them newness of life, which they are able to have their mind renewed as you stated, having the mind of Christ, and looking in faith towards the Father in heaven, and there is inexpressible joy founded with-in that notion of the heart of individuals who seek earnestly.

Thank you for sharing with me,
Matthew

 

[Earburner]

Feel free to use your imagination, and you can consider me narrow and limited, as I limit myself narrowly to the text.

Much love!

Comprehending 1 Cor. ch. 2 will expand your spiritual horizons of His understanding, as He expounds upon His "text" within you.
Be sure to spiritually look for Him, when you present yourself to Him as a living sacrifice, holy and acceptable for His use. Rom. 12:1.
Don't forget, all who are born again of the Holy Spirit, do "HAVE the mind of Christ". Unfortunately, not many excercise that benefit of His Grace inwardly.

 

[Earburner]

Earburner,

How cool is that! Thank you for sharing. I do, too, believe people will find Jesus in the lake of fire who are outside of the Heavenly Kingdom today. I wonder if we will be given some work to do, and help them come to the Lord Yeshua, even in the afterlife. Who is to say. I do believe Jesus has come, and still comes today to the hearts that choose to believe on him. He gives them newness of life, which they are able to have their mind renewed as you stated, having the mind of Christ, and looking in faith towards the Father in heaven, and there is inexpressible joy founded with-in that notion of the heart of individuals who seek earnestly.

Thank you for sharing with me,
Matthew

I can't say that people will findJesus after the LoF, but I can say Amen to what else you say.

Not many born again Christians understand that Jesus has come, is coming still, and shall come again.
1. Jesus in His mortal flesh.
2. Jesus by His Holy Spirit.
3. Jesus in His Immortality and flaming fire.