"I Will Not" Because I AM a Christian

[Jericho]

Thou doth protest too much, methinks.

 

[Always]

Who here things President Trump is some kind of messiah??? I don't see that.

But he's doing an awful lot of good for our country, I'd think you'd have to admit that.

Much love!

That's what hurts, the morality part, the Rep. party that we lost, I would stand with them on that, however tRump is a tyrant, I can, WILL not lend a hand to evil, he is destroying our democracy!, dividing it, how can he do an AI clip showing himself dropping waste on individuals exercising their right to disagree with him, that group of people are suppose to be his constituents as well, how can he disrespect women, how can he stand behind hate groups? how can he asked DOJ to pay him 230 million dollars and furlough govt. workers, how can he demolish the White House to add a 250 million ballroom that he might use 3 times.

 

[marks]

That's what hurts, the morality part, the Rep. party that we lost, I would stand with them on that, however tRump is a tyrant, I can, WILL not lend a hand to evil, he is destroying our democracy!, dividing it, how can he do an AI clip showing himself dropping waste on individuals exercising their right to disagree with him, that group of people are suppose to be his constituents as well, how can he disrespect women, how can he stand behind hate groups? how can he asked DOJ to pay him 230 million dollars and furlough govt. workers, how can he demolish the White House to add a 250 million ballroom that he might use 3 times.

I'll agree with you on his social media, I don't like it either, I think he's wrong to post that stuff.

But otherwise I'm just hearing you echo the democrat talking points, and it's not real.

Like demolishing the White House, where do you get that? He's adding a large room to the end of one wing. Do you know how many presidents have reconstructed parts of the White House, even gutting the main building? This is just anti-Trump nonsense, just like you calling him an ass. Good show!

Here's a history of White House modifications, including when Truman completely gutted the building, leaving only the exterior walls.

White House timeline: How US presidents have remade 1600 Pennsylvania Ave

Presidents have brought their own tastes, needs, and quirks, and the White House reflects it all.

www.bbc.com

Much love!

 

[Always]

I'll agree with you on his social media, I don't like it either, I think he's wrong to post that stuff.

But otherwise I'm just hearing you echo the democrat talking points, and it's not real.

Like demolishing the White House, where do you get that? He's adding a large room to the end of one wing. Do you know how many presidents have reconstructed parts of the White House, even gutting the main building? This is just anti-Trump nonsense, just like you calling him an ass. Good show!

Here's a history of White House modifications, including when Truman completely gutted the building, leaving only the exterior walls.

White House timeline: How US presidents have remade 1600 Pennsylvania Ave

Presidents have brought their own tastes, needs, and quirks, and the White House reflects it all.

www.bbc.com

Much love!

I know down through the years the White House has been remodeled, it would have to been, but a 250 million dollar ballroom? he only has one term (thank God) and he wants Medicaid, Snap and other programs cut? make it make sense. Whether you want to believe it or not, he has the country divided because of his rhetoric. He has stated that government workers would be furlough, that's real, and the effects of it is real.

I love you in Christ more!

 

[marks]

but a 250 million dollar ballroom?

He's paying for it, not taxes. Do you think it's better to hold state dinners in a tent on the lawn? I like what he is doing.

and he wants Medicaid, Snap and other programs cut?

Democrat talking points. He wants illegals off the public dole.

He has stated that government workers would be furlough, that's real, and the effects of it is real.

That's congress, not the president. I think you need a better political education, but that's just me.

Try TheGatewayPundit.com

Much love!

 

[bdavidc]

"I Will Not " work together to privatize Medicare, cut Social Security, Medicaid or our postal service
work together to subvert the Constitution by illegitimately pushing unfit Cabinet nominees through recess appointments without the advice and consent of the Congress
work together to build a wall
work together to persecute anyone because of race, creed, or color
work together to lower taxes on 1% and increase taxes and remove services from the middle class and poor
work together to shut out refugees from other countries who seek asylum
work together to remove civil rights from anyone

and so many other actions that work to normalize the hatred of the Klan and supremist groups a seat at the table. Our will I believe a lie that there is a cease fire and attacks are still going. As a Christian I will show love, and defend the poor and needy and help in anyway I can to help those who are suffering with misfortune, pray for the healing of those elderly and young. I will lift up the Name of Jesus, that will draw all men, as our country goes through the tyranny that is and will prove that God is God and our only escape is through Him

None of those things you listed are actually being done. Much of that comes from political talking points, not facts.

Medicare, Social Security, and Medicaid were not privatized or cut under President Trump. In fact, funding for veterans and seniors increased during his term.

The Constitution was not subverted. Recess appointments have been used by nearly every president, including Obama and Clinton.

The border wall was not about hatred or race, it is about restoring law and order. Scripture says government is meant to restrain evil and protect its citizens ~Romans 13:1–4.

No one is persecuted because of race or creed. What is pushed for was equal treatment under the law, not special treatment based on group identity.

Taxes were actually lowered for most middle-class families. The standard deduction was doubled, and unemployment among minorities hit record lows.

Refugees and asylum seekers are still processed, We simply enforced vetting to keep terrorists and traffickers out. That’s not cruelty, that’s wisdom.

Civil rights weren’t removed. Religious liberty was strengthened, giving believers the freedom to live out their faith openly.

I know it’s easy to repeat the headlines. I do it myself sometimes. But truth isn’t determined by our feelings or ideologies. The issue at hand is moral, not political. I know this well because many of the same voices crying “love” are those who are for killing the unborn, twisting gender, and silencing Christians who speak the truth.

“Woe to those who call evil good and good evil” ~Isaiah 5:20. Before you rush to judge someone who was willing to stand for biblical values, take a moment and ask yourself which side is really on God’s side.

I support your desire to help the poor and exalt the name of Jesus, that is precisely what every believer should do. However, much of what has been said about President Trump is flat-out false. The media has falsely portrayed him as hateful or tyrannical when in reality, his policies promoted a stronger economy, religious liberty, the unborn, the Jewish state of Israel, and values that are consistent with the Scriptures.

He never advocated for cuts to Social Security or the privatization of Medicare. The wall at the border is not about persecution, it is about restoring the rule of law so that immigration could occur legally and safely. ~Romans 13 teaches that government is put in place by God to restrain lawlessness, not to enable it. Jesus instructed us to love the stranger, but also to be “wise as serpents and harmless as doves” ~Matthew 10:16. Compassion without law leads to chaos, and a nation that cannot control its borders will soon be unable to protect the poor and needy it is called to serve.

Believers are called not to be loyal to a politician, but to the truth itself. Before repeating something we see in the headlines, let’s take a moment to fact-check. Scripture calls us to pray for our leaders ~1 Timothy 2: 1–2, even those who are despised or treated wrongly by others. Truth and righteousness go hand in hand, and both are of great concern to God.

This isn’t about a single man or even one political party. It is about truth versus falsehood. The division in America did not start with Donald Trump. It began when the nation turned away from God’s Word. Those who want to define others as “hateful” are the very same people who support the killing of unborn babies (~Exodus 20: 13), gender bending and the redefinition of marriage (~Genesis 1:27; ~Romans 1:26–27), putting men in women’s sports and calling it equality (~1 Corinthians 14:33), corrupting children with sexual perversion, silencing Christians (~Acts 5:29), and elevating sin instead of calling people to repent (~Isaiah 5:20; ~Luke 13:3).

This isn’t a political issue, it’s a moral one. You cannot follow Jesus on Sunday and then vote for or defend a platform that mocks His Word. He was very clear on that point: “No one can serve two masters” ~Matthew 6:24.

President Trump is not perfect, none of us are, but he did stand for the sanctity of life, the freedom to worship, the defense of Israel, and the preservation of truth when most leaders were silent on those issues. So much of the opposition to him in the past four years was really opposition to those biblical values themselves. The majority of people elected him because he’s doing exactly what he said he would, and I, for one, stand behind him.

So yes, pray for our country. Care for the poor. Love your neighbor. But let’s do it from a firm foundation of truth. Because love without truth is not biblical love at all. ~Ephesians 4:15

 

[Ronald Nolette]

I see, so according to your way of thinking the people ending their lives in the German Concentration Camps were sinful people for the simple reason they protested against German Government rules.

And of course you also think Adolf Hitler, and his group of evil rulers, "were appointed by God."

According to you, It would have been a grievous sin to protest against the death camps.

Well....I am glad the allied forces defeated Nazi Germany

I am glad the allied forces defeated Germany as well.

But as for rulers and governments:

Daniel 2:21
And he changeth the times and the seasons: he removeth kings, and setteth up kings: he giveth wisdom unto the wise, and knowledge to them that know understanding:

Romans 13:1-5

King James Version

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13 Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God.
2 Whosoever therefore resisteth the power, resisteth the ordinance of God: and they that resist shall receive to themselves damnation.
3 For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to the evil. Wilt thou then not be afraid of the power? do that which is good, and thou shalt have praise of the same:
4 For he is the minister of God to thee for good. But if thou do that which is evil, be afraid; for he beareth not the sword in vain: for he is the minister of God, a revenger to execute wrath upon him that doeth evil.
5 Wherefore ye must needs be subject, not only for wrath, but also for conscience sake.

No death camps violate the law of God. We are free to protest, but will face any consequences the rulers in power set up!

Paul even said he was not afraid to die if he broke roman rule.

Nothing happens in the universe without gods approval. Just because we in our finite pea brains do not know the whys of Gods actions, we have no right to question His purposes. One of the reasons Hitler was raised up, was to so shock the worlds sensibilities as to give Israel back their homeland.

I do not understand it all, but I do trust god that everything He allows He works for good ultimately.

Isaiah 45:7
I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things.

And there is nothing wrong with a nation closing its borders, requiring responsibility to receive things like welfare, punishing criiminals, eve the church required people to be responsible before they received assisstance.

 

[bdavidc]

1. I do not believe in abortion OR the death penalty they are BOTH Murder
2. Being "woke" or whatever that means.. does not automatically mean one supports homosexuality, or any of those deviate sexual behaviors that was allowed to those on the Epstein list.(that the Rep. are trying to suppress)
3. I will vote for Social Security to remain as well as Medicare, Medicaid, and Affordable Healthcare
4.Iran or any other state should not receive nukes
5. The party and I wouldn't even say "party" however the leader we have is destroying America, and I pray that the party he has mesmerize "wakes" up which will probably happen in the near future and oust him out.

The sad thing about it, we don't have a Republican Party any longer! the historical Rep. Party was one I could appreciate, this right wing, hypocritical, racist party in control now, is an embarrassment.

Well I think we need to get our facts correct:

Actually, it is the Democrats that are are an embarrassment now and hypocritical. Many contemporary Democratic policies contradict Scripture, making them a source of embarrassment for those who follow Christ. Let's examine some examples:

1. Abortion (Proverbs 6:17; Exodus 20:13) - The Democrats support a woman's right to choose, which is essentially the right to kill an unborn child. God views murder as a grave sin, and it is abhorrent that the Democratic Party champions this practice.

2. LGBTQ agenda (Leviticus 18:22; Romans 1:26-27) - The Democrats advocate for the normalization of homosexuality and transgenderism, despite the Bible's clear condemnation of these practices as sinful. By promoting such behaviors, they are leading people further from God's truth.

3. Lawlessness (1 Timothy 1:9-10) - The Democrats support policies that undermine law and order, such as abolishing cash bail or defunding the police. These actions encourage lawlessness and create chaos, which is contrary to Scripture's teachings on orderliness and respect for authority.

4. Corruption (Proverbs 16:10; Isaiah 1:23) - The Democrats have been embroiled in numerous scandals involving corruption, from President Biden's son Hunter's business dealings to the Clinton Foundation's alleged pay-to-play schemes. These instances demonstrate a blatant disregard for God's call to honesty and integrity.

5. False justice (Isaiah 1:17) - The Democrats often pursue social justice policies that are based on feelings rather than truth, such as reparations or critical race theory. These ideologies create division and foster resentment among people groups, which is contrary to God's desire for reconciliation and unity (Ephesians 4:3).

As followers of Christ, we must stand against the lies and deception of the Democratic Party and call others to repentance and salvation in Jesus Christ.

Historically, the Democratic Party has a long and disturbing history of supporting policies that uphold racism and discrimination. This can be traced back to the early days of the party, including the support for slavery, Jim Crow laws, and segregation. Here are some examples:

1. The "Missouri Compromise" (1820) - The Democratic-controlled Congress passed legislation that allowed Missouri to join the Union as a slave state, while Maine was admitted as a free state to maintain the balance between slave and free states in the Senate. This compromise perpetuated slavery and denied equality to millions of African Americans.

2. The "Dred Scott decision" (1857) - Democratic President James Buchanan appointed Chief Justice Roger Taney, who authored the infamous Dred Scott decision that ruled African Americans had no rights a white man was bound to respect. This decision reinforced the notion of racial inferiority and the legitimacy of slavery.

3. The "Southern Strategy" (1968) - In an effort to appeal to racist white voters in the South, the Democratic National Committee adopted the Southern Strategy, which focused on opposition to civil rights legislation, such as the Civil Rights Act and Voting Rights Act. This strategy helped Democrats win elections but reinforced racist attitudes among many in the party.

4. The "Boll Weevil Coalition" (1980s-1990s) - A group of conservative Democratic representatives from the South who opposed civil rights, welfare reform, and other progressive policies. Their influence within the party further perpetuated racism and discrimination against African Americans.

As Christians, we must advocate for justice, love our neighbors as ourselves, and fight against all forms of racism and discrimination (Matthew 22:39; Galatians 5:14).

 

[bdavidc]

Who needs to look at CNN? look at what is happening!, and don't let FOX misinterpret to you! (Hey it's like studying the Word of God, read it and ask God for understanding.)

That’s good advice, reading and seeking understanding from God’s Word. So when are you going to take your own advice? Because if you truly did, you’d see that truth isn’t found in CNN, FOX, or any political spin. It’s found in Scripture alone.


The problem isn’t lack of media truth, it’s lack of biblical truth. God said, “My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge” ~Hosea 4:6. If we’d all spend more time in His Word instead of repeating talking points, we’d see right through the lies.

So before preaching that to others, you might make sure you’re actually doing it yourself.

 

[bdavidc]

Good luck to you my friend.
On this forum you are out of luck.
Here, on this forum, most people think their only escape is through the guy in the White House.

You need to speak for yourself, because you don’t have a clue what a lot of people on this forum actually think. You don’t speak for me or for everyone else. And just so we’re clear, I don’t believe the left wing is going to promote biblical values at all. In fact, they seem to be doing their best to destroy them.

 

[Triumph1300]

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I don’t believe the right wing is going to promote biblical values at all. In fact, they seem to be doing their best to destroy them.

Glad to hear you understand that.

 

[Triumph1300]

But as for rulers and governments:

Daniel 2:21
And he changeth the times and the seasons: he removeth kings, and setteth up kings: he giveth wisdom unto the wise, and knowledge to them that know understanding:

They set kings in place, but not by me. They established princes, whom I did not recognize. They crafted idols for themselves from their silver and gold; as a result, they will be destroyed. Hosea 8-4

 

[bdavidc]

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Glad to hear you understand that.

Glad you caught that, I meant the LEFT.

 

[bdavidc]

They set kings in place, but not by me. They established princes, whom I did not recognize. They crafted idols for themselves from their silver and gold; as a result, they will be destroyed. Hosea 8-4

That verse isn’t talking about political right or left, it’s talking about Israel turning away from God’s authority. In Hosea 8: 4, God rebuked them for setting up their own leaders and system without Him. They chose human power and man-made religion over obedience to Him. The idols of silver and gold represent anything people put their trust in more than God, whether it’s government, wealth, or religion.

The point is plain: when people decide things apart from God’s Word it results in judgment. It’s not a political issue; it’s rebellion against God’s rule. The lesson still applies today, any kingdom or leader set up without submitting to God’s truth will come crashing down (~Psalm 33:12, ~Proverbs 14:34).

And since the left supports killing unborn babies (Exodus 20:13), twisting gender and marriage (Genesis 1:27, Romans 1:26–27), putting men in women’s sports and calling it equality (1 Corinthians 14:33), corrupting kids with perversion, silencing Christians (Acts 5:29), and celebrating sin instead of calling people to repent (Isaiah 5:20, Luke 13:3). I would worry if I supported that. If you claim to follow Jesus and still support a platform that openly mocks His Word, you’ve got a serious problem. You can’t serve God and stand with rebellion.

 

[Triumph1300]

The point is plain: when people decide things apart from God’s Word it results in judgment.

Well, maybe that is why there are continuous weird weather situations.
Floods, hurricanes, tornadoes, you name it.
Punishment for sin?!

Oh, wait, that does not apply, that's also Old Testament scriptures referring to Israel.

Pick and Choose Theology.
Whatever you like.....

 

[Triumph1300]

If you claim to follow Jesus and still support a platform that openly mocks His Word, you’ve got a serious problem. You can’t serve God and stand with rebellion.

Talking about Trump now.
You saw the light?

 

[bdavidc]

Well, maybe that is why there are continuous weird weather situations.
Floods, hurricanes, tornadoes, you name it.
Punishment for sin?!

Oh, wait, that does not apply, that's also Old Testament scriptures referring to Israel.

Pick and Choose Theology.
Whatever you like.....

You’re missing the bigger picture. The Bible doesn’t limit God’s judgment to Israel. He is the same yesterday, today, and forever ~Hebrews 13:8. God used weather, famine, and disaster as judgment throughout Scripture, not just under the old covenant. Jesus Himself said in ~Luke 21:11 that in the last days there would be “great earthquakes, famines, and pestilences,” all as part of God’s warnings to a rebellious world.

Romans 1 shows the same principle: when nations reject truth, God gives them over to the consequences. The physical world groans under sin ~Romans 8:22. So no, it’s not “pick and choose theology.” It’s consistent theology. God still rules creation, and when people push Him out, creation itself becomes a witness of His displeasure.

 

[Triumph1300]

You’re missing the bigger picture. The Bible doesn’t limit God’s judgment to Israel. He is the same yesterday, today, and forever ~Hebrews 13:8. God used weather, famine, and disaster as judgment throughout Scripture, not just under the old covenant. Jesus Himself said in ~Luke 21:11 that in the last days there would be “great earthquakes, famines, and pestilences,” all as part of God’s warnings to a rebellious world.

Correct.
This was exactly what I was getting at.

I was being sarcastic in that post.
I guess you missed it.

 

[Always]

Glad you caught that, I meant the LEFT.

Why is there a Left and Right? and not a Right and Wrong? we are Christians, we should have the same mind, when our so called leader surfaced with the foul mouth he had it should have made the saints of God sick to their stomachs. All this right wing rhetoric, will blow up, and by all means what you call the "left" is by no means even close to perfect.

I just cannot tolerate this idolization of a man, that is obviously self indulging and self centered

 

[amigo de christo]

"I Will Not " work together to privatize Medicare, cut Social Security, Medicaid or our postal service
work together to subvert the Constitution by illegitimately pushing unfit Cabinet nominees through recess appointments without the advice and consent of the Congress
work together to build a wall
work together to persecute anyone because of race, creed, or color
work together to lower taxes on 1% and increase taxes and remove services from the middle class and poor
work together to shut out refugees from other countries who seek asylum
work together to remove civil rights from anyone

and so many other actions that work to normalize the hatred of the Klan and supremist groups a seat at the table. Our will I believe a lie that there is a cease fire and attacks are still going. As a Christian I will show love, and defend the poor and needy and help in anyway I can to help those who are suffering with misfortune, pray for the healing of those elderly and young. I will lift up the Name of Jesus, that will draw all men, as our country goes through the tyranny that is and will prove that God is God and our only escape is through Him

You forgot one KEY THING and this THING has destroyed many souls within christendom.
I will NOT walk into THE ECUMINCAL HARLOT and her so called unity finding common ground interfaith .
T hat be of anti christ and many an antichrist now does it work .
I WILL NOT put the bible down in favor of mens speeches . HOW BOUT T HAT ONE