What does God's character tell us about the Bible?

[St. SteVen]

I don't care if you believe it or not! So we will never agree on this.

Obviously those are not the captivity that Christ led captive.

Ephesians 4:8-10
This is why it says: “When he ascended on high, he took many captives and gave gifts to his people.” 9 (What does “he ascended” mean except that he also descended to the lower, earthly regions? 10 He who descended is the very one who ascended higher than all the heavens, in order to fill the whole universe.)

1 Peter 4:6 NRSV
For this is the reason the gospel was proclaimed even to the dead, so that, though they had been judged in the flesh as everyone is judged, they might live in the spirit as God does.

Romans 14:9
For this very reason, Christ died and returned to life so that he might be the Lord of both the dead and the living.

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[Charlie24]

Obviously those are not the captivity that Christ led captive.

Ephesians 4:8-10
This is why it says: “When he ascended on high, he took many captives and gave gifts to his people.” 9 (What does “he ascended” mean except that he also descended to the lower, earthly regions? 10 He who descended is the very one who ascended higher than all the heavens, in order to fill the whole universe.)

1 Peter 4:6 NRSV
For this is the reason the gospel was proclaimed even to the dead, so that, though they had been judged in the flesh as everyone is judged, they might live in the spirit as God does.

Romans 14:9
For this very reason, Christ died and returned to life so that he might be the Lord of both the dead and the living.

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1 Peter 4:6 is referring the righteous dead who heard the Gospel in their lifetime. This is not connected to Christ at the time of His burial/ the 3 days.

 

[St. SteVen]

Peter is referring to the spirits that were disobedient during the days of Noah!

This one is interesting on its own merit.
Let's break it down:

- the gospel was proclaimed even to the dead
- though they had been judged in the flesh (as everyone is judged)
- they might live in the spirit as God does

The gospel was proclaimed to the dead so that they might live in the spirit.

1 Peter 4:6 NRSV
For this is the reason the gospel was proclaimed even to the dead,
so that, though they had been judged in the flesh as everyone is judged,
they might live in the spirit as God does.

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[St. SteVen]

1 Peter 4:6 is referring the righteous dead who heard the Gospel in their lifetime. This is not connected to Christ at the time of His burial/ the 3 days.

That is not what those scriptures say.
You are only spouting an evangelical apologetic.

Did you see this one?

The gospel was proclaimed to the dead so that they might live in the spirit.

1 Peter 4:6 NRSV
For this is the reason the gospel was proclaimed even to the dead,
so that, though they had been judged in the flesh as everyone is judged,
they might live in the spirit as God does.

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[Charlie24]

That is not what those scriptures say.
You are only spouting an evangelical apologetic.

Did you see this one?

The gospel was proclaimed to the dead so that they might live in the spirit.

1 Peter 4:6 NRSV
For this is the reason the gospel was proclaimed even to the dead,
so that, though they had been judged in the flesh as everyone is judged,
they might live in the spirit as God does.

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The Gospel was preached to them while they were still alive!

You are adding what is not there!

This has nothing to do with Christ preaching to the spirits in Hell. This is concerning the judgment.

But that's the way it is when dealing with a Universalist.

 

[St. SteVen]

The Gospel was preached to them while they were still alive!

You are adding what is not there!

It says very clearly that the gospel was PROCLAIMED to the dead.
That would be a FIRST hearing of the gospel, obviously.

1 Peter 4:6 NRSV
For this is the reason the gospel was proclaimed even to the dead,
so that, though they had been judged in the flesh as everyone is judged,
they might live in the spirit as God does.

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[St. SteVen]

But that's the way it is when dealing with a Universalist.

Another saw that cuts both ways.
I have brought plenty of evidence, but you will acknowledge nothing.
But that's the way it is... right?

Pride comes before a fall.

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[St. SteVen]

This has nothing to do with Christ preaching to the spirits in Hell. This is concerning the judgment.

Do you think there are spirits in hell before the judgement?

Where are those gentiles (that do not have the law) who were of good conscience?

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[Charlie24]

It says very clearly that the gospel was PROCLAIMED to the dead.
That would be a FIRST hearing of the gospel, obviously.

1 Peter 4:6 NRSV
For this is the reason the gospel was proclaimed even to the dead,
so that, though they had been judged in the flesh as everyone is judged,
they might live in the spirit as God does.

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Steven, I'm beginning to wonder about you!

Peter said, "FOR THIS CAUSE the Gospel was preached to them that are dead."

What was the cause, Steven?

Back up to vs.5,

"Who shall give account to Him who is ready to judge the quick and the dead."

Peter is referring to the basis of Judgment. It is the hearing of the Gospel and what they did with it that will determine their judgment.

 

[St. SteVen]

"Who shall give account to Him wo is ready to judge the quick and the dead."

So, why do you judge them before their time?

Romans 14:9
For this very reason, Christ died and returned to life so that
he might be the Lord of both the dead and the living.

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[Charlie24]

Do you think there are spirits in hell before the judgement?

Where are those gentiles (that do not have the law) who were of good conscience?

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Steven, you've been around long enough and had the time to study to know these things!

It's just one question after another and you haven't a clue as to what the Scripture is saying.

No one can explain anything to you.

 

[St. SteVen]

Back up to vs.5,

"Who shall give account to Him wo is ready to judge the quick and the dead."

Peter is referring to the basis of Judgment. It is the hearing of the Gospel and what they did with it that will determine their judgment.

I'll repeat what you said to me. (erroneously)

You are adding what is not there!

Where does it say: "It is the hearing of the Gospel and what they did with it that will determine their judgment."

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[St. SteVen]

No one can explain anything to you.

A paradigm isn't even worth 20 cents these days. - LOL

Good night.

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[Charlie24]

So, why do you judge them before their time?

Romans 14:9
For this very reason, Christ died and returned to life so that
he might be the Lord of both the dead and the living.

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Again you haven't a clue, you are blinded by the UR.

Christ is Lord not to the unsaved, but to the saved who are both alive and dead.

Christ is the Lord over all the saints, both dead and alive.

But you have to make it about the UR, don't you.

 

[Reggie Belafonte]

So, why do you judge them before their time?

Romans 14:9
For this very reason, Christ died and returned to life so that
he might be the Lord of both the dead and the living.

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Wrong !

The Bible says, Jesus is the God of the Living ! and not the God of the Dead.

Jesus came that one would have Life in abundance ! That is of the Holy Spirit !

For such a one is called out of this world that is full of deceptions and delusions !

So one becomes dead to this world ? you are not the dead then at all !

When ones Soul goes to Heaven, that never dies ? but your body will die.

So when one is truly Saved then one is not of this world, but of the kingdom of God in fact ! Such a one has made it accross the great devide and is not only just a Dupe to this world ! Temptations will still come but such a one can deal with such just as we seen with Jesus when the Devil tryed to Tempt him ! and what a great dude the Devil was to Jesus, That the Devil himself was willing to do a deal ? and give Jesus The whole World ! right their on the Spot !
But Jesus turned to the Devil and pointed out that the Devil was nothing but a Titch !

So a person with Virtue will not be tempted by nonsense !
But a person who lackes Virtue will be tempted in fact, because they lack the fortitude to become a real Human that God truly created ! as outside of such is an abomination too God !

 

[St. SteVen]

St. SteVen said:
So, why do you judge them before their time?

Romans 14:9
For this very reason, Christ died and returned to life so that
he might be the Lord of both the dead and the living.

Wrong !

The Bible says, Jesus is the God of the Living ! and not the God of the Dead.

LOL
Seriously?

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[Reggie Belafonte]

St. SteVen said:
So, why do you judge them before their time?

Romans 14:9
For this very reason, Christ died and returned to life so that
he might be the Lord of both the dead and the living.

LOL
Seriously?

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The Lord of ? and the God of ? may differ.

As in the Light and the Darkness ?

But Christ Jesus is not of the darkness is he.

 

[St. SteVen]

The Lord of ? and the God of ? may differ.

As in the Light and the Darkness ?

But Christ Jesus is not of the darkness is he.

That may be.

Jesus said He is the Lord of the Sabbath.
What does that mean by your definition? (Light and the Darkness) ???

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