Maybe he is meaning someone such as Martha's brother, for example? Clearly, he was dead first then he is alive. Can't be raised from the dead without being resurrected. Lazarus was raised from the dead before Christ was raised from the dead, obviously.
Therefore, the first resurrection isn't literally meaning the first, as in chronologically.
Not the literally first resurrection of any kind, but it is not called the first resurrection for nothing. In what sense is it the first resurrection in your view?
It is meaning a type of resurrection.
Yes, but it is the first of that type. How does that fit your Premil doctrine? How would the mass bodily resurrection that will occur when Jesus returns be the first of its type?
It is meaning the resurrection of the just, even if there are numerous stages to it. And that until every single just person has been raised first, in the meantime there are no unjust unsaved people also being raised from the dead.
How about we go by how scripture itself defines the first resurrection? The phrase "the first resurrection" is translated from the Greek words protos (first) anastasis (resurrection). Those words are used together in only one other verse in scripture besides in Revelation 20.
Acts 26:23 that
the Christ would suffer, that He would be the first (protos) to rise (anastasis) from the dead, and would proclaim light to the Jewish people and to the Gentiles.
Or maybe you think we should call, when the dead in Christ rise first in the future, this is the 2nd resurrection, or the 3rd resurrection, so on and so on?
When it talks about the dead in Christ rising first it has nothing to do with the first resurrection or the order of resurrections, it has to do with the fact that after Jesus descends from heaven, what will happen first is that the dead in Christ will be bodily resurrected and then after that they, along with those who are alive and remain, will be caught up together to meet the Lord in the air. In 1 Thessalonians 4:15 Paul made it clear that those who are alive and remain until the coming of the Lord "will by no means precede those who are asleep", so that's why the dead in Christ have to be resurrected first before they are caught up together with those who are alive and remain at the same time.
Rather than calling it what it is, the first resurrection, a type of resurrection only involving the just.
By making it only a type of resurrection it no longer makes sense to call it the first resurrection. It seems like you're trying to invent a way to get out of explaining in what sense is it the first resurrection. But, it is the first resurrection of some type, which implies a second resurrection of the same type. In 1 Corinthians 15:22-23 Paul talks about Christ's resurrection itself as being the first unto bodily immortality and then when He comes again those who belong to Him will also be resurrected unto bodily immortality. So, Christ's resurrection itself was the first resurrection of its type, which was unto bodily immortality.
As it relates to the dead in Christ rising first, I asked your buddy ChatGPT what that means.
Question for ChatGPT:
When Paul refers to the dead in Christ rising first in 1 Thessalonians 4:16 does that have anything to do with the order of resurrections or does it have to do with the dead in Christ rising first so that they can then be caught up together with those who are alive and remain to meet the Lord in the air?
ChatGPT Response:
Excellent distinction — and you’re reading
1 Thessalonians 4:16–17 very carefully, which is exactly what’s needed here.
Let’s look at this closely in context, because what Paul
means by “the dead in Christ will rise first” can be understood in two ways — and one of them fits the immediate passage much better.
Text and Flow of Thought
“For the Lord himself will descend from heaven with a cry of command, with the voice of an archangel, and with the trumpet of God.
And the dead in Christ will rise first.
Then we who are alive, who are left, will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air...”
— 1 Thessalonians 4:16–17
Paul’s purpose here is
pastoral: to
comfort believers who were worried that Christians who had already died would somehow
miss out on Christ’s coming (see v.13: “that you may not grieve as others do who have no hope”).
So the
primary contrast in Paul’s mind is not between different
orders of resurrection across ages or dispensations, but between
two groups of believers:
- Those who have died (“the dead in Christ”)
- Those who are alive and remain at Christ’s return
“The dead in Christ will rise first” — what does “first” mean?
The word
first (
prōton in Greek) in this context refers to
sequence within a single event, not to a theological “first resurrection” in an eschatological order.
Paul’s point is that when Christ comes:
- The dead in Christ will be raised (bodily resurrection).
- Then the living believers will be caught up (raptured).
- Together they will meet the Lord in the air.
The “first” thus ensures that the
dead are not left behind or disadvantaged; they are raised
first, so that both groups are united and ascend
together to meet the Lord.
It’s a way of saying: “Don’t worry — those who have died in Christ won’t miss the event. In fact, they will be raised first, so we can all be caught up together.”
So to your question:
“Does ‘the dead in Christ rise first’ have to do with the order of resurrections (like Revelation 20), or with the order of events at Christ’s coming?”
Answer:
In 1 Thessalonians 4:16, “rise first” refers
not to a distinct order of resurrections across redemptive history, but to the
sequence within the single event of Christ’s coming — resurrection
first, then the rapture of the living,
so that all believers are joined together to meet the Lord.