Addressing the false accusations against Charlie Kirk

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Does Ms.Owens have any boundaries?
She claimed she was a friend of Charlie?


I'm looking to see a news report where in Erika files a suit against Ms.Owens. That or some other legal remedy occurs so to address Ms.Owens pursuit against Erika and TPUSA.

Likely sooner than later from the looks of it and how the outlandish projections are escalating.l
 
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Does Ms.Owens have any boundaries?
She claimed she was a friend of Charlie?


I'm looking to see a news report where in Erika files a suit against Ms.Owens. That or some other legal remedy occurs so to address Ms.Owens pursuit against Erika and TPUSA.

Likely sooner than later from the looks of it and how the outlandish projections are escalating.l

I personally never heard her say anything about Erika, and I watch her daily, although I do not have ears everywhere, and so when I did a search the search at the first came, it said, that Candace released a video to that effect titled the same as the video you posted. But when I watched it, it was mostly a voice over various clips framing all of that together

I told AI that that video was not at all released by Candace Owens herself but you gave me voice over with that accusation it responded back that it did just that.

Candace Owens did not personally release a video accusing Erika Kirk of an affair with Michael McCoy (referred to as "Mikey"), the chief of staff at Turning Point USA (TPUSA). Instead, the claims about an alleged affair originated from a third-party YouTube video published on October 30, 2025, which featured commentary over silent footage and purported to expose the relationship using phone records and interview statements. This video attributed the allegations to Owens, suggesting she had "dropped alleged proof" of the affair, but no direct evidence indicates that Owens herself made this specific accusation in her own broadcast or social media post.

While Owens has publicly questioned Erika Kirk’s behavior following Charlie Kirk’s death on September 10, 2025, and criticized her for what she described as a lack of pursuit for truth and transparency,
the explicit claim of an affair with McCoy appears to have been amplified by online commentators rather than stated outright by Owens. The YouTube video in question framed Owens as having "gone straight for the jugular" with this revelation, but it was the narrator of the video—not Owens herself—who laid out the narrative connecting the alleged affair to Charlie Kirk’s assassination.
 
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2 Ti 3:1 This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come. For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good, Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God;

Just want to be careful not to falsely accuse, its hard not to when there is a coordinated effort to frame others.
 
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I personally never heard her say anything about Erika, and I watch her daily, although I do not have ears everywhere, and so when I did a search the search at the first came, it said, that Candace released a video to that effect titled the same as the video you posted. But when I watched it, it was mostly a voice over various clips framing all of that together

I told AI that that video was not at all released by Candace Owens herself but you gave me voice over with that accusation it responded back that it did just that.

Candace Owens did not personally release a video accusing Erika Kirk of an affair with Michael McCoy (referred to as "Mikey"), the chief of staff at Turning Point USA (TPUSA). Instead, the claims about an alleged affair originated from a third-party YouTube video published on October 30, 2025, which featured commentary over silent footage and purported to expose the relationship using phone records and interview statements. This video attributed the allegations to Owens, suggesting she had "dropped alleged proof" of the affair, but no direct evidence indicates that Owens herself made this specific accusation in her own broadcast or social media post.

While Owens has publicly questioned Erika Kirk’s behavior following Charlie Kirk’s death on September 10, 2025, and criticized her for what she described as a lack of pursuit for truth and transparency,
the explicit claim of an affair with McCoy appears to have been amplified by online commentators rather than stated outright by Owens. The YouTube video in question framed Owens as having "gone straight for the jugular" with this revelation, but it was the narrator of the video—not Owens herself—who laid out the narrative connecting the alleged affair to Charlie Kirk’s assassination.
You told AI.
You didn't ask AI.

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You told AI.
You didn't ask AI.

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Yes, I asked AI and it directed me to the video, after watching it I typed into it that it is a voice over and not from her as it stated, and it admitted that it was the case.

You only need to watch the video and see its framed in such a way, but its not her speaking of these things.

Not deceived by the video or AI, you always have to double check all sources because there is so much propaganda to get you to click, they get alot of money the more outrageous the story.
 
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Just asked it this way,

AI did Candace Owens specifically Humiliate Erika Kirk stating that She has had an affair with TPUSA turning point chief of staff?

Candace Owens has not been reported to have directly humiliated Erika Kirk by explicitly stating she had an affair with TPUSA's chief of staff, Michael McCoy, in a verified public statement or on a major platform like Joe Rogan’s podcast.
 
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Tried it again this way

AI did Candace Owens specifically accuse Erika Kirk stating that She has had an affair with TPUSA turning point chief of staff.

Response

Yes, Candace Owens specifically accused Erika Kirk of having an affair with Michael McCoy, the chief of staff at Turning Point USA (TPUSA). Owens alleged that she had obtained proof of the affair, including phone records from McCoy’s device and statements Erika Kirk made in interviews after Charlie Kirk’s death.

AI lies also , so if you watch the video and watch what comes out of her mouth, you can also see what video she was supposedly talking in by looking at what she is wearing, and test to see if that voice over framing the narrative concerning the things in it are consistent with what it is saying.

AGAIN watch...

Me,

AI did Candace Owens specifically accuse Erika Kirk stating that She has had an affair with TPUSA turning point chief of staff. AI why did you tell me Candace did not do this?

Response

Candace Owens has not explicitly confirmed that she directly accused Erika Kirk of having an affair with the TPUSA chief of staff, Michael McCoy, in a verified primary source such as a podcast or official transcript. However, multiple secondary sources and commentary, including a YouTube video summary, claim that Owens "dropped alleged proof of Erica's affair with TPUSA's chief of staff.

It lies too.
 

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I asked AI. Did candace owens claim Erika kirk had an affair

And this was that systems answer.

iAsk Question · Did candace owens claim Erika kirk had an affair

Candace Owens did not claim Erika Kirk had an affair.[1] The individual she accused of having an affair with her husband, George Farmer, was Erica Kirk.[2] This accusation was made publicly by Owens in October 2024.[3]

According to www.iAsk.Ai - Ask AI:

Owens' claims involved allegations that Erica Kirk, a former employee of The Daily Wire, engaged in an affair with Farmer.[4] These allegations led to significant public discussion and media coverage, particularly within conservative media circles.[5] Owens presented what she described as evidence to support her claims, which included text messages and other communications.[6] The situation also involved responses from both George Farmer and Erica Kirk, who denied the allegations.[7] [8]

AUTHORITATIVE SOURCES
Candace Owens Accuses Erica Kirk of Affair. [The Daily Wire]↩
Owens' Affair Allegations. [Breitbart News]↩
Candace Owens' Public Accusation. [Fox News]↩
Details of the Allegations. [National Review]↩
Media Coverage of Owens' Claims. [The Washington Times]↩
Owens Presents Evidence. [The Blaze]↩
George Farmer Denies Affair. [Newsweek]↩
Erica Kirk's Statement. [Erica Kirk Official Statement]↩

Answer Provided by iAsk.ai – Ask AI.
 

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I searched parts of the video I posted using an AI.

This is the question:
Did candace owens claim Erika kirk was behind Charlie Kirk assassination

This is the answer:
No, Candace Owens did not claim Erika Kirk was behind Charlie Kirk's assassination. There is no credible information or public record indicating that Charlie Kirk has been assassinated, nor that Candace Owens made such a claim. [1] [2] This assertion appears to be based on misinformation or a misunderstanding.

According to www.iAsk.Ai - Ask AI:

Reports and public statements from both Candace Owens and Charlie Kirk, as well as mainstream news outlets, do not contain any mention of an assassination attempt or success against Charlie Kirk. [3] [4] Furthermore, Erika Kirk is Charlie Kirk's wife, and there have been no public allegations or credible reports linking her to any harm against her husband. [5] [6]

AUTHORITATIVE SOURCES
Fact Check: Charlie Kirk Assassination. [Snopes]↩
Candace Owens Official Statements. [CandaceOwens.com]↩
Charlie Kirk Public Appearances and Statements. [Turning Point USA]↩
Major News Archives. [Associated Press]↩
Charlie Kirk's Family Life. [Wikipedia]↩
Public Records Search. [PublicRecords.com]↩

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And then I asked if Candace owens had said Erika Kirk had an affair with the CEO of Turning Point.

This is the banner beneath that AI Site name:
Ask Anything, Get True Answers


After reading that, AI shouldn't worry people.hmn
 
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I decide to check everything out by hand, just because I really want to look at some things, sources, AI and others, just out of personal interest.

I followed the video you posted, and found each video, I noted the dates of the videos, what she was wearing, the links, when she spoke, when the voice over took over, the narrative, what lies really. 10 minute video took me nearly 2 hours to comb through, I had to at least examine it myself just once. Could have redone it, but it was tedious but its all there, anyone can follow along point by point.

Picture on front of that video (to the left)

Is from 1 Year ago here


Most are voiced over, this one is not

First video (orange jacket) made reference to where she said Erika is a better person than her


Second video (wearing purple plaid) where she is talking about the influencers (and is also referred again later on, see 6 minutes in to 7 minutes here)


The third video referenced is the first video (orange jacket) again here


The fourth video referred to is the second video again (purple plaid) here


The fifth video referred to in black choker dress here is one that was as recent as this week but all videos are removed from Youtube


The sixth video voiced over appears to be her in (28:58 minutes in) in her black turtle neck with Milo


The seventh video into it is her in a white blouse voice over here


The eighth voice over is her in a green top (no makeup) the video I had also posted on another thread but wasnt about anything here

The ninth video is the second video once again (purple plaid) which is a voice over


The 10th part of the video is making a direct reference to an article in the new york times, this article


In the above article (in the video) it states the Ericka got a call from Michael McCoy at 11:23 AM local time in Pheonix when Charlie was shot at 12:23 PM Mountain time.in Utah. And the voice over implies that this little detail as set forth in the New York times changes everything. The voice over itself is implying that there is no logical reason why he would watch Charlie get shot and run off to call Ericka unless there is something else going on here

Candace is not saying this, the AI voice over (or whoever that is) is.

Notice, it says (Not Candace) that the call might not have been done out of concern but as of a signal, such as (it implies) "the deed has been done signal" (meaning murder) 3:31 minutes in

The voice over continues that he (McCoy) must have known that Charlie was going to be made "unalive" at that moment.

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Continued from above

The 11 video is voiced over again is Candance in her white blouse here, which is shown in the seventh video posted


The voice over now brings in Candace as that one woman who was called crazy getting to the truth of things (after seeding the video with innuendo)

The 12th video voice over in (orange jacket again shown in the first video) now makes reference to her vindication (to everything it just seeded into the narrative)

The 13th video voice (in the purple plaid outfit) shown in the second video going on about how Candace (within this narrative) was right all along but everyone was blinded by the tears (of Erika)

At this point, its all made up, listen to it closely. And here (it says) is where things get darker it says, at 3:54 showing a voice over of a video (at around 28:58 minutes in) which is actually an interview with Milo


The video right after here, just brings in questions concerning the shooter, and a voice over clip of Joe Rogan asking the same question at 4:20 in as Candace and others are asking

Then from 4:40- 5:10 is the AI (or whoever it is) doing the voice over is insuating Erika is a suspicious character (not Candace) but brings in once again Candace in its voice over (in the purple plaid outfit) same as shown in the second video. Stating Candace stopped asking questionsand started accusing at 5:18 and begins showing an older video of Candace at TPUSA voicing over its own words (none of hers)

Again, (tired of counting at this point) the voice over begins over the same video in the purple plaid outfit telling us how it was Candace connecting these dots (when it is really doing the connecting)

Somewhere Candace supposedly went live and torched Ericka Kirk without sharing which video she did this on. Its not at all going down as this thing says.

At 6:10 the Second video is shown again (in a purple plaid outfit) speaking at 6 minutes in to 7 minutes here


And there she is not telling us that Erika is not saying anything about NOT investigating Charlies death, BUT the influencers themselves are using Erika as a reason to tell Candace to back off of this investigation, so she (herself) is not raising suspicions on Erika, its very plain here.

Then the voice over comes in and says, "the internet split" some had thought she had gone to far (implying ??) but others said, "someone needed to say it" then proceeds to show us text comments to that same effect.

At 7:20 in the video it proceeds to do a voice over another video (which was an older interview) with Russel Brand (shes in light pink sweatshirt) which was 4 months before Charlie Kirk's death here


After this the voice over reads the text of another woman at 7:15 concerning how that woman felt it was not appropriate the voice over and out of nowhere said, "It all clicked" (for Candace that is) that the only reason Erika wasn't looking for truth was (drum roll) because she already knew it (the voice over implying the obvious) because when you add the ALLEDGED AFFAIR on top of that alleged silence, the picture becomes (drum roll) SINISTER.

At 7:28 BUT Candace speaking THAT truth (as it voices over) another older video from TPUSA this came at a cost....

Meaning Candace was saying what this AI (or whoever is voicing over) is saying. And the moment Candace went public with what IT is saying the knives came out ....then introduces texts from Erika implying these were meant for Candace

But the voice over even states at 7:47 that Erika did not name Candace but ... (drum roll) ...she didn't have to...

When there are videos which are out there (not Candaces) stating Erika is faking her grief (It couldnt be those though, no)
All you have to do is do a Youtube search " Erika kirk body language" Notice none of those are Candace (although the AI or the voice over
is telling us that Erika does not have to tell us that it is Candace calling into question her grief) while there are tons of people
doing this on Youtube (who she should not possibly be speaking of)

Then come the loyalty collapse at 7:54 (concerning all of the above, not of Candace) and everyone supposeldy turned on her overnight, and you know its fake because it brings in Laura Loomer (who is a Jew, Candace is ticking some of these off). And there is this battle, because of something Candace said,

Candace's question which was aimed at the influencers themselves (which are telling her
to stop the investgation) and saying to them (who were using Erika as the excuse for her to shut up as if valid) asking them, Why?

What kind of widow doesn’t want the truth about her husband’s murder to come out?” But this was twisted and made to appear it was directed at Erika (and implicate her, and they tie it altogether and big bad Candace)

Summing it up, the voice over goes into, "Once you line up those smiles (meaning Erikas, which it did) those calls and timing" (all of which it provided us through the New York times, itself) the voice over says, concidence turns
into conspiracy
.

So look who is showing Erikas smiles (the one who made that video, look who brought in the calls and timing as it shows us in the New york times, it was the one tha made the video.

The reason this was of great interest to me is because I trying to get a feel for how deceptive it will get and how someone can be framed, or moved by woke/ right left. I think Peter Theil is framing the anti Christ narrative to come through Luddism (similar to the old Luddites) they are coining those technophobes now. Apparently anti Christ to him is someone who is backing away from technology. You can look that up online. So there's a few things I am looking at, but I wanted to run a few of my own tests (for my own satisfation). One of which would be a kind of AI voice over spinning a narrative and weaponizing of information, to move an arm of people.

I shouldn't have posted all those video links, I should have just posted the name, they are really irrelevant in the final thought (Sorry about that). Good to be done with that.

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It's sad to see people that don't know how to be led by the Holy Spirit to the point that they have to use "AI" as their "un-holy spirit"

Those becoming dependent upon AI are being conditioned and primed for deception that will land them in hell.
 
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It's sad to see people that don't know how to be led by the Holy Spirit to the point that they have to use "AI" as their "un-holy spirit"

Those becoming dependent upon AI are being conditioned and primed for deception that will land them in hell.

Its not just sad, its a little ironic that anyone who can't hear the Holy Spirit would turn to a machine trained on human error to find their
spiritual guidance. By that I mean, trusting an algorithm more than the Spirit's quiet voice. I find its useful for some good and needful push back at time (which excludes in its responses the name calling) often present in persons who believe they are more spiritual or holier than it. And so for a much cleaner experience (so to speak) it can be very helpful in that purpose.

No one should blame the toaster for not doing their own homework or have to go to hell for toasting some bread in it.
 
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This is also interesting as far as AI goes, at least on Brave (which is my own search engine) which I have turned off multiple times and it returns

I ask,

Why does AI keep returning to my search engine when I turned off the Answer with AI in the settings?

Answer returns


Despite turning off the "Answer with AI" setting in the browser, users have reported still receiving AI-generated answers. This behavior suggests that the setting may not be persistently saved or may be overridden under specific conditions, leading to frustration among users who wish to avoid AI responses entirely. The feature is designed to respond automatically to informational queries, and while users can disable it via the settings on Brave Search, some users have found that the toggle does not reliably prevent AI answers from appearing.

Brave claims that the AI feature is privacy-preserving and uses its own search index as a source, aiming to provide near-instant, up-to-date answers. However, the system still includes a disclaimer urging users to verify critical facts, as AI-generated content may contain inaccuracies or hallucinations. The feature has been updated with a technique called "AI grounding" to improve factual accuracy by anchoring responses in verifiable web sources. Despite these improvements, some users report that the AI still fails to provide accurate or complete information, particularly on controversial topics, and that it may omit certain details intentionally.

In summary, the "Answer at the top" is indeed an AI-generated response, and while users can disable it through the search settings, persistent issues with the toggle not working as expected have been reported, leading to ongoing user dissatisfaction.

Me again.

So you always need to cross check it. And like in my post #132 where I break down a video are beng voiced over with what appears to be an AI generated voice over (video was made to spread disinformation on Candace Owens) when I took 2 hours of my time to double check that 10 minute video casually thrown up without checking, that can be a little bit more difficult to cross check (given it is in video form) but you can still verify it (when you care to).

No one should trust some of these video clips (especially the voice overs) without going directly to the source itself. It you cannot be bothered to double check we shouldnt just casually throw these things up, gotta be diligent not to be used as tool.
 

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This is also interesting as far as AI goes, at least on Brave (which is my own search engine) which I have turned off multiple times and it returns

I ask,

Why does AI keep returning to my search engine when I turned off the Answer with AI in the settings?

Answer returns


Despite turning off the "Answer with AI" setting in the browser, users have reported still receiving AI-generated answers. This behavior suggests that the setting may not be persistently saved or may be overridden under specific conditions, leading to frustration among users who wish to avoid AI responses entirely. The feature is designed to respond automatically to informational queries, and while users can disable it via the settings on Brave Search, some users have found that the toggle does not reliably prevent AI answers from appearing.

Brave claims that the AI feature is privacy-preserving and uses its own search index as a source, aiming to provide near-instant, up-to-date answers. However, the system still includes a disclaimer urging users to verify critical facts, as AI-generated content may contain inaccuracies or hallucinations. The feature has been updated with a technique called "AI grounding" to improve factual accuracy by anchoring responses in verifiable web sources. Despite these improvements, some users report that the AI still fails to provide accurate or complete information, particularly on controversial topics, and that it may omit certain details intentionally.

In summary, the "Answer at the top" is indeed an AI-generated response, and while users can disable it through the search settings, persistent issues with the toggle not working as expected have been reported, leading to ongoing user dissatisfaction.

Me again.

So you always need to cross check it. And like in my post #132 where I break down a video are beng voiced over with what appears to be an AI generated voice over (video was made to spread disinformation on Candace Owens) when I took 2 hours of my time to double check that 10 minute video casually thrown up without checking, that can be a little bit more difficult to cross check (given it is in video form) but you can still verify it (when you care to).

No one should trust some of these video clips (especially the voice overs) without going directly to the source itself. It you cannot be bothered to double check we shouldnt just casually throw these things up, gotta be diligent not to be used as tool.
It seems some browsers keep pushing AI regardless of settings not to.

Google keeps pushing Gemini AI.
 
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It seems some browsers keep pushing AI regardless of settings not to.

Google keeps pushing Gemini AI.

True, I see it first hand. And on Youtube are tons of AI generated videos of misinformation serving whatever agenda. I had just recently posted these AI generated song videos by the same just to show how realistic they can be. Some of them are not marked AI generated either.
 
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Given this news with Israel putting in a significant amount of money to produce a pro Israel material across AI tools, for example (just do a search on it to look at all the sources, I am not clicking on them all) I ahd to ask what follows

Israel has signed a $6 million deal with US-based Clock Tower X LLC to help “train ChatGPT” to produce pro-regime material across AI tools and digital media

I asked, who exactly do people have to pay to get ChatGPT to pull their own party line?

The answer which came was

People do not pay a specific individual to get ChatGPT to pull their own party line; instead, they can customize the AI's behavior themselves. For instance, researchers have demonstrated that by training models on partisan sources—such as feeding RightWingGPT content from National Review and LeftWingGPT content from The New Yorker—it is possible to create models with strong political leanings. This process, which can be done for a relatively low cost (around $2,000), involves feeding the model a steady diet of ideologically aligned content to shape its responses. While OpenAI does not offer a service to tailor ChatGPT to a user’s political views, users with access to the GPT Store can create their own custom GPTs, which allows them to design AI assistants that reflect specific perspectives or ideologies. This customization is available to ChatGPT Plus subscribers, who have the ability to build and use their own custom GPTs.

I ask How would Israel be doing this costing so much?

The answer which came was


People pay firms specializing in digital influence, such as US-based Clock Tower X LLC, to shape how AI systems like ChatGPT respond to queries in alignment with specific narratives. Israel has contracted Clock Tower X LLC, led by former Trump campaign manager Brad Parscale, to generate content and manipulate AI frameworks to promote pro-Israel narratives. The $6 million contract, part of a broader $145 million public diplomacy initiative known as Project 545, involves creating websites and digital content designed to influence the data used to train large language models like ChatGPT, a strategy referred to as "Generative Engine Optimization" (GEO). This effort targets Generation Z audiences across platforms like TikTok, Instagram, and YouTube, aiming for at least 50 million monthly impressions.
The campaign also includes partnerships with influencers through Project Esther and the use of AI tools like MarketBrew AI to boost the visibility of pro-Israel content in search results.

Good to keep in mind
 

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True, I see it first hand. And on Youtube are tons of AI generated videos of misinformation serving whatever agenda. I had just recently posted these AI generated song videos by the same just to show how realistic they can be. Some of them are not marked AI generated either.
I think there should have to be a banner on those videos. "AI generated", or the like.

Pinterest images note AI involvement in their collection of images. Video should be no exception.

Months ago I happened on a Keanu Reeves video. Obviously amateur AI but reading the comments, there are people out there that think Keanu Reeves has nothing better to do.
It's sad.
 
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I think there should have to be a banner on those videos. "AI generated", or the like.

Pinterest images note AI involvement in their collection of images. Video should be no exception.

Months ago I happened on a Keanu Reeves video. Obviously amateur AI but reading the comments, there are people out there that think Keanu Reeves has nothing better to do.
It's sad.

I was reading the comments under the video you posted, its crazy to see how many people do not cross check their sources, who are ready to believe any lie that is fed to them. They will unfortunately become useful tools in the days ahead.

This video (from her own mouth) adresses some things concerning Erika Kirk at the 17 minute mark to the 35 minute mark here


If anyone needed that clarified