Christians who hate Israel

[Chrysostomos]

There are many Christians who align with international organizations like the UN, ICC, ICJ, and Amnesty International when it comes to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.
These bodies aren’t “pro-Muslim”; they’re pro-evidence. And the evidence is damning.

In October 2023, UN Secretary-General Guterres called Gaza “a graveyard for children,” with over 7,000 kids killed under Israeli bombs—a point he reiterated through 2024–2025, later calling it the largest children’s graveyard in modern history.

The ICC issued arrest warrants for Netanyahu and Gallant on November 21, 2024, for war crimes and crimes against humanity.

The ICJ ruled in 2024 that genocide in Gaza is plausible, with the case still ongoing.

Amnesty International labeled it genocide in December 2024 and doubled down in July 2025.

The UN’s September 2025 report? Straight-up genocide.

When Christians agree with these findings and refuse to back Israel’s actions against Palestinians, Christian Zionists slap them with labels like “pro-Muslim” or “antisemitic.” That’s not fair—it’s slander.

These Christians aren’t cheering for Muslims; they’re standing against war crimes and genocide, as documented by global authorities. Calling out atrocities doesn’t mean they “hate Jews” or “love Muslims”—it means they value human lives, period.

Don’t let Christian Zionists twist the narrative: opposing Israel’s policies isn’t about picking sides in a religious war. It’s about holding a state accountable when the world’s top institutions call its actions genocide.

That’s not “lifting up Muslims”; it’s standing up for justice.

 

[Muna]

What about those who hate Christians while supporting a secular state of Israel, where the population is either atheists or Talmudic Jews who teach that Jesus is tormented in hell for his sorcery and bastardy (Sanhedrin 43a, 107b, Babylonian Talmud), rejecting Him as Messiah?
Is it Christian to back a state where 99.7% deny Christ (CBS/Pew 2025) and push a Third Temple that blasphemes His sacrifice (Hebrews 10:10–14), while demonizing other Christians who don’t swallow Christian Zionism or dispensationalism hook, line, and sinker?

Why support a state with Talmudic blasphemies (Sanhedrin 43a: Jesus executed for sorcery; 107b: Mary’s adultery) but condemn fellow believers for questioning it?

What are your thoughts on these, because this Jesus would be a sign that would be spoken again, so wouldnt that be something that would be forgiven them?

For example here

Luke 2
34 And Simeon blessed them, and said unto Mary his mother, Behold, this child is set for the fall and rising again of many in Israel; and for a sign which shall be spoken against

Then what Jesus tells us here

Luke.12
[10] And whosoever shall speak a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but unto him that blasphemeth against the Holy Ghost it shall not be forgiven.

With exception of the Holy Ghost in the above, that which pertains to the Son and the following here would be forgiven them

Mark 3:28 Verily I say unto you, All sins shall be forgiven unto the sons of men, and blasphemies wherewith soever they shall blaspheme

Which would make sense also since he is set for the fall and rising again of many in Israel, and a sign to be spoken against, and also in those who believe in Jesus Christ

Acts 28:22 But we desire to hear of thee what thou thinkest: for as concerning this sect, we know that every where it is spoken against.

And does tells us here

Romans 11:28 As concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes: but as touching the election, they are beloved for the fathers' sakes.

And concerning our enemies Jesus tells us

Matt 5:44 But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;

The same concerning these

John 15:20 Remember the word that I said unto you, The servant is not greater than his lord. If they have persecuted me, they will also persecute you; if they have kept my saying, they will keep yours also.


Jacob is acknowledged to be ungodly, not godly at all wouldnt you agree?

 

[Muna]

Israel is far from innocent, but they are God's elect. God made promises to Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob that He will keep.

Isaiah 45:4

"For Jacob my servant's sake, and Israel mine elect, I have even called thee by thy name: I have surnamed thee, though thou hast not known me."

They still don't know Him, but they will in the near future.

Shown in Paul too

Acts 9:5 And he said, Who art thou, Lord? And the Lord said, I am Jesus whom thou persecutest

Paul who said,

1 Cr 15:8 And last of all he was seen of me also, as of one born out of due time.

Jews were first

Similarly, " So the last shall be first, and the first last"

As Jesus says,

John 16:3 And these things will they do unto you, because they have not known the Father, nor me.

 

[Nancy]

The entire world will turn against and hate Israel. I have also noticed this hatred on the increase and it will only get worse.

Zechariah 12:3

"And in that day will I make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people: all that burden themselves with it shall be cut in pieces, though all the people of the earth be gathered together against it."

God is allowing this hatred of Israel for a specific reason, the apostle Paul made the prophecy that all Israel will be saved.

All nations will gather together against Israel in the end, the battle of Armageddon led by the anti-Christ, and Christ delivers them from certain extinction at His Second Coming. And so, all Israel will be saved, what's left of them.

Rom. 11:26-27

"And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:

For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins."

Israel will be delivered and come to Christ, but there is much suffering in store for them before this happens.

Thank you Charlie.
What bothers me is the vitriol of some "Christians" towards them.

 

[Nancy]

What about those who hate Christians while supporting a secular state of Israel, where the population is either atheists or Talmudic Jews who teach that Jesus is tormented in hell for his sorcery and bastardy (Sanhedrin 43a, 107b, Babylonian Talmud), rejecting Him as Messiah?
Is it Christian to back a state where 99.7% deny Christ (CBS/Pew 2025) and push a Third Temple that blasphemes His sacrifice (Hebrews 10:10–14), while demonizing other Christians who don’t swallow Christian Zionism or dispensationalism hook, line, and sinker?

Why support a state with Talmudic blasphemies (Sanhedrin 43a: Jesus executed for sorcery; 107b: Mary’s adultery) but condemn fellow believers for questioning it?

Post #15 explains the simple answer IMHO. Thanks!

 

[Chrysostomos]

Post #15 explains the simple answer IMHO. Thanks!

Do you really believe modern Israelis are direct descendants of those "lost" northern tribes scattered by Assyria 2,700 years ago?

Historically, the Northern Kingdom of Israel, comprising ten tribes, was conquered by Assyria around 722 BCE. The Assyrians deported much of Israel's population to regions like Assyria, Mesopotamia, and Media, as part of their policy of scattering conquered peoples (2 Kings 17:24). This led to...

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[NotTheRock]

Thank you Charlie.
What bothers me is the vitriol of some "Christians" towards them.

Mainstream Christianity teaches that Jews get burned alive forever upon death for rejecting Christ. Mainstream Christianity is responsible for most of the vitriol against Jews by misunderstanding Christians. Do you believe that Jews get burned alive forever upon death?

 

[HealthyShape]

Mainstream Christianity teaches that Jews get burned alive forever upon death for rejecting Christ. Mainstream Christianity is responsible for most of the vitriol against Jews by misunderstanding Christians. Do you believe that Jews get burned alive forever upon death?

How do you define mainstream Christianity?

 

[Chrysostomos]

What are your thoughts on these, because this Jesus would be a sign that would be spoken again, so wouldnt that be something that would be forgiven them?

For example here

Luke 2
34 And Simeon blessed them, and said unto Mary his mother, Behold, this child is set for the fall and rising again of many in Israel; and for a sign which shall be spoken against

Then what Jesus tells us here

Luke.12
[10] And whosoever shall speak a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but unto him that blasphemeth against the Holy Ghost it shall not be forgiven.

With exception of the Holy Ghost in the above, that which pertains to the Son and the following here would be forgiven them

Mark 3:28 Verily I say unto you, All sins shall be forgiven unto the sons of men, and blasphemies wherewith soever they shall blaspheme

Which would make sense also since he is set for the fall and rising again of many in Israel, and a sign to be spoken against, and also in those who believe in Jesus Christ

Acts 28:22 But we desire to hear of thee what thou thinkest: for as concerning this sect, we know that every where it is spoken against.

And does tells us here

Romans 11:28 As concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes: but as touching the election, they are beloved for the fathers' sakes.

And concerning our enemies Jesus tells us

Matt 5:44 But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;

The same concerning these

John 15:20 Remember the word that I said unto you, The servant is not greater than his lord. If they have persecuted me, they will also persecute you; if they have kept my saying, they will keep yours also.


Jacob is acknowledged to be ungodly, not godly at all wouldnt you agree?

Should you help the wicked and love those who hate the Lord? Because of this, wrath has gone out against you from the Lord.

In 2 Chronicles 19:1–3, we find the account of Jehoshaphat, king of Judah, rebuked by the prophet Jehu, son of Hanani, for his alliance with Ahab, the wicked king of Israel. Jehoshaphat joined Ahab in a military campaign against Ramoth-Gilead (2 Chron. 18:1–3), despite Ahab’s idolatry, including...

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Your response is a masterclass in cherry-picking Scripture to dodge the issue while propping up a hypocritical narrative. You quote Luke 2:34, Mark 3:28, and Romans 11:28 to argue that Talmudic Jews who blaspheme Jesus (Sanhedrin 43a: executed for sorcery; 107b: Mary’s adultery) should be forgiven and loved, while you sidestep the core problem: Christians like you who demonize fellow believers for questioning a secular, Christ-rejecting Israel (99.7% deny Jesus, CBS/Pew 2025).

This is the same tired nonsense we’ve debunked repeatedly in "Should you help the wicked and love those who hate the Lord? Because of this, wrath has gone out against you from the Lord." —your selective “love” for Israel’s blasphemers while slandering Christians who don’t buy into Christian Zionism or dispensationalism is rank hypocrisy.

Let’s shred your argument. You cite Luke 2:34 (“a sign to be spoken against”) and Mark 3:28 (“all sins shall be forgiven”) to suggest that Talmudic blasphemies against Jesus are excusable. But you conveniently ignore the exception in your own quote: “whoever blasphemes against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven” (Luke 12:10). Denying Jesus as Messiah and calling Him a sorcerer isn’t just “speaking against” Him—it’s a deliberate rejection of the Spirit’s testimony to Christ (John 15:26). That’s the unforgivable sin when unrepented (Hebrews 10:29). The Talmud’s vile claims aren’t innocent ignorance; they’re calculated attacks on the Son of God, yet you give them a pass while condemning Christian who confess Christ’s divinity, Trinity, and Resurrection.

You’re bending over backwards to excuse a state that spits on the Gospel while attacking believers who question your dispensationalist fairytale. John 3:36 is clear: “Whoever rejects the Son will not see life, for God’s wrath remains on them.” Yet you’d rather “love” those under wrath than defend Christians who uphold Christ’s lordship.

 

[Taken]

Antisemitism has been on the rise more than ever. NYS just voted their 1st Muslim mayor and was only a few minutes ago talking with a Christian in my area and, he reminded me of a town in I think Michigan that is run by Muslims and have Sharia Law in place??! Am I wrong to think it is not a very Christian thing to lift up Muslims and bash Jews.
Can anyone please explain to me why this is? I was talking to (texting) a Christian friend in San Diego who replied to my text that our home state just voted in a Muslim with "better than a jew"!

PLEASE someone tell me why this is?

Thank you!

Vision, Plan, Strategy, Division, FEW THEM IN Control… FEW THEY useful To Control.

It is the tenet / principle and philosophical promotion and indoctrination of:
The Terms;
kings and subjects
masters and slaves
dictators and peasants
royal and keeping useful serfs
royal and eliminating UN-useful serfs.
* Communism, Marxism, Liberalism, Democracies, Anti-God Satanism, playbooks.

Without necessarily using “the Terms”, “The “serfs” (ie. The “have nots” for multiple reasons), ARE ear tickled with the grandeur of endlessly to be Provided All their Needs / Wants FREE… requiring NO EFFORT, work, labor… on their Part”.

For Decades, the Ear-tickling, has occurred IN:
* Politicking
* News outlets
* TV “programming” “geared to adults and children”
* Promoted and Encouraged “Day Long” separations of husbands and wives.
* Promoted and Encouraged “Day Long” separations of Parents and their children.
* Music
* Books
* Movies
* Public “so called Free programing” Schools.
* Universities “with multiple opportunities to attend, without “paying!”
* Big Pharma “with so called Approved” AND Encouraged, slow negative body altering synthetic compound Drugs”
* Street drugs Openly By “Word” Discouraged… while Enabling Street Drugs to flow effortlessly to every corner, Free money supply to buy drugs, Free supply of needles to take drugs and Free land, buildings, to squat, and live in squaller and filth (but no issue, they too drugged to care)


The four letter F-Word “FREE” IS the Decades Long …“Strategy”, “enticement”, “programming” that Operates “Cleverly”…
To KEEP the Ignorant IGNORANT…
To KEEP the Slothful Burdens, SLOTHFUL BURDENS…

** To KEEP the (people at large /FREE-DOM lovers) AND the (people at large /FREEBIE lovers)…BUSY, Busy, Quarreling, debating, fighting…between themselves…
* WHILE… the “Masters sit in luxury, behind walls, with armed guards, secretly dreaming up more ways to Control (the useful) and Eliminate (the Slothful Burdens).

Why? Prophecy being fulfilled and unfolding, being revealed exponentially.

God isn’t the “only” Spirit with Power “preparing FOR” the End of days Of Mortal manKind”, and His new Earth and it’s new creatures / inhabitants.

Satan is another spirit with power “preparing” for his “Stint” of controlling the Earth and its inhabitants.

Glory to God,
Taken

 

[Nancy]

Vision, Plan, Strategy, Division, FEW THEM IN Control… FEW THEY useful To Control.

It is the tenet / principle and philosophical promotion and indoctrination of:
The Terms;
kings and subjects
masters and slaves
dictators and peasants
royal and keeping useful serfs
royal and eliminating UN-useful serfs.
* Communism, Marxism, Liberalism, Democracies, Anti-God Satanism, playbooks.

Without necessarily using “the Terms”, “The “serfs” (ie. The “have nots” for multiple reasons), ARE ear tickled with the grandeur of endlessly to be Provided All their Needs / Wants FREE… requiring NO EFFORT, work, labor… on their Part”.

For Decades, the Ear-tickling, has occurred IN:
* Politicking
* News outlets
* TV “programming” “geared to adults and children”
* Promoted and Encouraged “Day Long” separations of husbands and wives.
* Promoted and Encouraged “Day Long” separations of Parents and their children.
* Music
* Books
* Movies
* Public “so called Free programing” Schools.
* Universities “with multiple opportunities to attend, without “paying!”
* Big Pharma “with so called Approved” AND Encouraged, slow negative body altering synthetic compound Drugs”
* Street drugs Openly By “Word” Discouraged… while Enabling Street Drugs to flow effortlessly to every corner, Free money supply to buy drugs, Free supply of needles to take drugs and Free land, buildings, to squat, and live in squaller and filth (but no issue, they too drugged to care)


The four letter F-Word “FREE” IS the Decades Long …“Strategy”, “enticement”, “programming” that Operates “Cleverly”…
To KEEP the Ignorant IGNORANT…
To KEEP the Slothful Burdens, SLOTHFUL BURDENS…

** To KEEP the (people at large /FREE-DOM lovers) AND the (people at large /FREEBIE lovers)…BUSY, Busy, Quarreling, debating, fighting…between themselves…
* WHILE… the “Masters sit in luxury, behind walls, with armed guards, secretly dreaming up more ways to Control (the useful) and Eliminate (the Slothful Burdens).

Why? Prophecy being fulfilled and unfolding, being revealed exponentially.

God isn’t the “only” Spirit with Power “preparing FOR” the End of days Of Mortal manKind”, and His new Earth and it’s new creatures / inhabitants.

Satan is another spirit with power “preparing” for his “Stint” of controlling the Earth and its inhabitants.

Glory to God,
Taken

 

[Muna]

Should you help the wicked and love those who hate the Lord? Because of this, wrath has gone out against you from the Lord.

In 2 Chronicles 19:1–3, we find the account of Jehoshaphat, king of Judah, rebuked by the prophet Jehu, son of Hanani, for his alliance with Ahab, the wicked king of Israel. Jehoshaphat joined Ahab in a military campaign against Ramoth-Gilead (2 Chron. 18:1–3), despite Ahab’s idolatry, including...

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Your response is a masterclass in cherry-picking Scripture to dodge the issue while propping up a hypocritical narrative.

I was addressing the issue, and asking your thoughts on the scriptures concerning them which blaspheme, showing Jesus would be a sign that would be spoken against, and the following

Luke.12
[10] And whosoever shall speak a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but unto him that blasphemeth against the Holy Ghost it shall not be forgiven.

With exception of the Holy Ghost in the above, that which pertains to the Son and the following here would be forgiven them

Mark 3:28 Verily I say unto you, All sins shall be forgiven unto the sons of men, and blasphemies wherewith soever they shall blaspheme

You quote Luke 2:34, Mark 3:28, and Romans 11:28 to argue that Talmudic Jews who blaspheme Jesus (Sanhedrin 43a: executed for sorcery; 107b: Mary’s adultery) should be forgiven and loved, while you sidestep the core problem: Christians like you who demonize fellow believers for questioning a secular, Christ-rejecting Israel (99.7% deny Jesus, CBS/Pew 2025).

You apparently dont know me too well around these parts I can see

This is the same tired nonsense we’ve debunked repeatedly in "Should you help the wicked and love those who hate the Lord? Because of this, wrath has gone out against you from the Lord." —your selective “love” for Israel’s blasphemers while slandering Christians who don’t buy into Christian Zionism or dispensationalism is rank hypocrisy.

Com on now, isn't this the perfect example of the pot calling the kettle black?

Show me my own helping any wicked or this ungodly love for those who hate the Lord. Show me my blaspheme against those who are not these zionists.

You dont want to be the hypocrit you want to make others out to be do you?

Jesus said,

Mat 5:43 Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy.

But I say unto what?

Matt 5:44 But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;

Same here

Romans 11:28 As concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes: but as touching the election, they are beloved for the fathers' sakes.

Doesn't say make allegiances with any of them, even Jacob is called ungodly.

Let’s shred your argument. You cite Luke 2:34 (“a sign to be spoken against”)

Right, in the context of Israel, Jesus would be a sign spoken against, set for the same both falling and rising again

Luke 2:34 And Simeon blessed them, and said unto Mary his mother, Behold, this child is set for the fall and rising again of many in Israel; and for a sign which shall be spoken against

and Mark 3:28 (“all sins shall be forgiven”)

Right he says this as I have posted

Luke.12
[10] And whosoever shall speak a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but unto him that blasphemeth against the Holy Ghost it shall not be forgiven.

With exception of the Holy Ghost in the above, that which pertains to the Son and the following here would be forgiven them

Mark 3:28 Verily I say unto you, All sins shall be forgiven unto the sons of men, and blasphemies wherewith soever they shall blaspheme

to suggest that Talmudic blasphemies against Jesus are excusable.

Jesus said all, I didnt suggest anything

But you conveniently ignore the exception in your own quote: “whoever blasphemes against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven” (Luke 12:10).

I think the one conveniently ignoring things is on your part Again, reread what I posted, and notice I highlighted it for you (in blue).
I did not conveniently ignore anything as you say.

Luke.12
[10] And whosoever shall speak a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but unto him that blasphemeth against the Holy Ghost it shall not be forgiven.

With exception of the Holy Ghost in the above, that which pertains to the Son and the following here would be forgiven them

Mark 3:28 Verily I say unto you, All sins shall be forgiven unto the sons of men, and blasphemies wherewith soever they shall blaspheme

Denying Jesus as Messiah and calling Him a sorcerer isn’t just “speaking against” Him—it’s a deliberate rejection of the Spirit’s testimony to Christ (John 15:26). That’s the unforgivable sin when unrepented (Hebrews 10:29). The Talmud’s vile claims aren’t innocent ignorance; they’re calculated attacks on the Son of God, yet you give them a pass while condemning Christian who confess Christ’s divinity, Trinity, and Resurrection.

Its a very easy thing to do, search the forum, my name, while running the word Jew/Jews/Israel/zionism (or whatever you wish) and then go onto to accuse me after you find the things you want to put on my part.

Its less hypocrital, and you won't need to be a false accuser, but a true accuser.

You’re bending over backwards to excuse a state that spits on the Gospel while attacking believers who question your dispensationalist fairytale. John 3:36 is clear: “Whoever rejects the Son will not see life, for God’s wrath remains on them.” Yet you’d rather “love” those under wrath than defend Christians who uphold Christ’s lordship.

You will have to provide me an example of what it is you are even talking about here.

 

[JohnDB]

Antisemitism has been on the rise more than ever. NYS just voted their 1st Muslim mayor and was only a few minutes ago talking with a Christian in my area and, he reminded me of a town in I think Michigan that is run by Muslims and have Sharia Law in place??! Am I wrong to think it is not a very Christian thing to lift up Muslims and bash Jews.
Can anyone please explain to me why this is? I was talking to (texting) a Christian friend in San Diego who replied to my text that our home state just voted in a Muslim with "better than a jew"!

PLEASE someone tell me why this is?

Thank you!

Okay....
Huge difference between the title and your question.

Jews, as a race or religion and individuals i have no quarrel with.
As a nation however, they leave a LOT to be desired.

Believe it or not...they have been influenced by their Arab neighbors way too much and the older Jews in Israel are really annoying to deal with for anything. The young people are pleasant....older ones? NOPE.

The Palestinians want to rob you at gunpoint or blow you up for Allah and 72 virgins....the Jews also want to rob you but through inflated costs for everything from food, taxis, to pepto bismal. (Food mostly sucked)

My wife and I stopped for 4 days in Israel on our way back to the United states from a mission trip to a slavic nation....
IMHO,
BOTH sides deserve everything they get and more from their ongoing conflict. BOTH sides are agitators. BOTH sides are culpable.

Unfortunately that's the truth.....wish it wasn't so. But it is.

 

[amigo de christo]

Mainstream Christianity teaches that Jews get burned alive forever upon death for rejecting Christ. Mainstream Christianity is responsible for most of the vitriol against Jews by misunderstanding Christians. Do you believe that Jews get burned alive forever upon death?

and jew or gentile that denies JESUS is the CHRIST has denied GOD ALL MIGHTY and will wail on the DAY of the LORD .
now this fact is a fact .

 

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Absolutely it leaves the Freedom lovers scratching their heads, wondering WHY the slothful are “content” with their lifestyle of SCRAP Freebies…
AND the Freebie lovers scratching their heads WONDERING WHEN the government is going to confiscate all the workers wealth and dole it out so … their “pipe dream envision” of ALL are rich…is realized.
!#** har, har.

 

[Wick Stick]

Antisemitism has been on the rise more than ever. NYS just voted their 1st Muslim mayor and was only a few minutes ago talking with a Christian in my area and, he reminded me of a town in I think Michigan that is run by Muslims and have Sharia Law in place??! Am I wrong to think it is not a very Christian thing to lift up Muslims and bash Jews.
Can anyone please explain to me why this is? I was talking to (texting) a Christian friend in San Diego who replied to my text that our home state just voted in a Muslim with "better than a jew"!

PLEASE someone tell me why this is?

Thank you!

Well... Israel is a mixed group. Throughout history, there's been a persistent group of people who call themselves Israel, but aren't really Israelites. Those people have done some pretty awful things.

As for Islam... I don't know why anyone would vote for a Muslim in a Christian nation. If my ballot choices were a Muslim vs a Communist, I'd vote for the communist.

 

[Charlie24]

Okay....
Huge difference between the title and your question.

Jews, as a race or religion and individuals i have no quarrel with.
As a nation however, they leave a LOT to be desired.

Believe it or not...they have been influenced by their Arab neighbors way too much and the older Jews in Israel are really annoying to deal with for anything. The young people are pleasant....older ones? NOPE.

The Palestinians want to rob you at gunpoint or blow you up for Allah and 72 virgins....the Jews also want to rob you but through inflated costs for everything from food, taxis, to pepto bismal. (Food mostly sucked)

My wife and I stopped for 4 days in Israel on our way back to the United states from a mission trip to a slavic nation....
IMHO,
BOTH sides deserve everything they get and more from their ongoing conflict. BOTH sides are agitators. BOTH sides are culpable.

Unfortunately that's the truth.....wish it wasn't so. But it is.

I understand what you're saying. God didn't ask us to approve of Israel in their state of unbelief, but He did ask us to pray for them.

Paul said they (Israel) are enemies of the Gospel but beloved of the Father. He is not finished with Israel, Paul said God's calling of Israel is not subject to any changes and they will yet fulfill their destiny in His calling of them.

Rom. 11:28-30

"As concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes: but as touching the election, they are beloved for the father's sakes.

For the gifts and calling of God are without repentance.

For as ye in times past have not believed God, yet have now obtained mercy through their unbelief:"

 

[Jericho]

PLEASE someone tell me why this is?

Because it's spiritual in nature. There is no other explanation why a tiny ethnic minority have been the most persecuted people in history or why the world is so focused on a tiny country the size of New Jersey.

What about those who hate Christians while supporting a secular state of Israel

Ukraine is a secular state too, as are most of the governments in the world. So why is Israel singled out in that regard? Or are we allowed to only support Christian states? If so, good luck finding a government that's run like a Christian theocracy.

rejecting Him as Messiah?

Read Romans 11. The Jews have been blinded in part so the rest of us could be grafted in UNTIL the time of the gentiles is complete. So, it's actually a blessing they did reject Him. Otherwise, Christianity would have remained a tiny insular Jewish sect that would have likely disappeared long ago. Paul also reminds us to not boast about that fact, because we can be grafted out as easily as we have been grafted in.

Why support a state with Talmudic blasphemies (Sanhedrin 43a: Jesus executed for sorcery; 107b: Mary’s adultery) but condemn fellow believers for questioning it?

Ironically, Christian Zionists (a contrived term but okay) and dispensationalists demonstrate more love than "some" Orthodox and Catholics. I've seen some self-proclaimed Christians who are extremely vitriolic toward Jews. So much for loving your supposed enemy.

 

[NotTheRock]

and jew or gentile that denies JESUS is the CHRIST has denied GOD ALL MIGHTY and will wail on the DAY of the LORD .
now this fact is a fact .

Can you please provide the verse?

 

[NotTheRock]

How do you define mainstream Christianity?

Mainstream denominations. Catholic, Baptist, Lutheran, etc.