Should you help the wicked and love those who hate the Lord? Because of this, wrath has gone out against you from the Lord.

[amigo de christo]

Oy vey.

the one thing they of all sides now have in common is
WELL go and read what that man said to me . I tell us all THEY are headed right into the same ecumenical
interfaith love train . I SEE this all over many . OH sure they m ight strive over some points
BUT ALL of them are more and more headed RIGHT INTO the very same snare .
Like a delusion has come to merge the decieved . AND IT HAS SISTER . THIS IS IT .
this IS that delusion that will merge this world , nations , tongues , religoins .
As you already KNOW this too sister . This roller coaster of a delusion cannot be stopped .
IT has been allowed and sent for one reason .
TO cause all who rejected The love of the truth to beleive A lie
and to be damned . And what is this lie that is so anti christ is nature and yet
seems to seem as love to more of christendom , to even the false religoins
THIS Idea of the ecumencial love train that all religoins serve the same GOD . THAT THERE JUST DENIED JESUS THE CHRIST
thus it is OF anti christ and many anti christs now work this lie , this merger unto the peoples .

 

[Chrysostomos]

not to DODGE the threat of ecumenism . TO EXPOSE the threat of ecumenism is what i do .
I aint running . HERE I AM exposing it . i suggest you go and learn to do the same .
Being unequally yoked HAS NEVER WORKED OUT to the good of any who did so .

I get it—you’re all about exposing ecumenism. Fine. But you can’t build your entire belief system just on being against something.

You keep saying all churches are false—that’s your antithesis. Where’s your thesis?

What’s the truth you’re offering? Are you saying everyone should retreat to their own little bunker like you did? Or what?

I’ve asked you multiple times to back up your claims with some actual arguments, but you just dodge and repeat the same rant. Give us something solid—what’s your solution?

 

[amigo de christo]

There is nothing here for me to repent of, since I'm in line with God's word. But you clearly are not. You need to first of all receive Christ for real in order to have His mind and heart and understanding on things.....not to mention that your eternal destiny is at stake.

To the trenches sister . The accusations are blaring as is the hyprocrisy .
For some holler ye must repent to beleive on JESUS CHRIST
and yet THEY themselves follow the ecumenical love train that has DENIED HIM .
oh its all hyprocrisy now sister . And this will only continue to take their hearts captive
more and more into only greater darkness that they see as light . And when the solution cometh
they will heed it and then the greatest crusade of all
IN THE WORLD STATE RELIGOIN will come against the saints .
Never bodes well when men merge THE EARTHEN WITH THE HEAVENLY . never works well at all .
THEY will not get their peace n safety either . THERE Is no and WILL be NO PEACE
unto the wicked who worked a lie unto this people . Its time to preach JESUS and to expose
the darkness .

 

[amigo de christo]

I get it—you’re all about exposing ecumenism. Fine. But you can’t build your entire belief system just on being against something.

You keep saying all churches are false—that’s your antithesis. Where’s your thesis?

What’s the truth you’re offering? Are you saying everyone should retreat to their own little bunker like you did? Or what?

I’ve asked you multiple times to back up your claims with some actual arguments, but you just dodge and repeat the same rant. Give us something solid—what’s your solution?

Sorry friend but that is exactly how they silenced the mouths of those who did expose sin .
THEY made it seem like they are AGAINST AGAINST , AGAINST
I aint buying it . I must do and may i do as i am led . NOW THAT HARLOT is taking souls captive all over the place .
And that whore gonna be exposed on my watch .
Might help if you exposed her yourself abit . cause of right now i am highly worried for you .
You all have no idea what this judge not correct not , lets unify , DID to the peoples .
It was all a false pretense to allow only more sin to be accepted and FOR THE BIG LIE to be introduced
under cover of lovey do . Look they might be able to silence your mouth .
BUT have you EVER wondered HOW on earth EVIL takes over . IT DOES SO
by vicitim card mentality . IT DOES so by making those who do warn against sins
SEEM as they are judgmental . AND NOW look. IT SURE HAS WORKED .

 

[amigo de christo]

I get it—you’re all about exposing ecumenism. Fine. But you can’t build your entire belief system just on being against something.

You keep saying all churches are false—that’s your antithesis. Where’s your thesis?

What’s the truth you’re offering? Are you saying everyone should retreat to their own little bunker like you did? Or what?

I’ve asked you multiple times to back up your claims with some actual arguments, but you just dodge and repeat the same rant. Give us something solid—what’s your solution?

lets introduce the same word again that i told you already .
You said , I keep saying that ALL churches are false .
you mean that MOST CHURCHES are false . I DIDNT say all . but man the number
that are already infected with the harlot , IS HIGH friend . VERY VERY HIGH in number .

 

[Chrysostomos]

Honestly, this is is a boring conversation. I will rather wait for something more interesting.

I think that I said quite enough in the first posts about it - for example Mariology, priesthood, complicated ceremonies...

I know you’re done with this conversation, but I’m not quite finished. I want to wrap it up by laying out the core issues why I’d never set foot in a reformed church.

It’s not just Darby’s dispensationalism or Christian Zionism. Equally big problems for me are that some reformed churches have women pastors, gay pastors, and even perform gay marriages.

You won’t find any of that in the Orthodox Church. I don’t see an issue with “complicated ceremonies”—they’re just tradition, not a flaw.
And what’s your beef with Orthodox priesthood?
At least we don’t have women or gay pastors like some of your churches do.

Mariology? That’s more a Catholic term, sure, but we Orthodox honor the Virgin Mary too, and I see zero problem with that.

At the very least, you can walk into any Orthodox church anywhere in the world and not encounter a gay pastor, a woman pastor, or a lesbian pastor.

 

[HealthyShape]

I know you’re done with this conversation, but I’m not quite finished. I want to wrap it up by laying out the core issues why I’d never set foot in a reformed church.

It’s not just Darby’s dispensationalism or Christian Zionism. Equally big problems for me are that some reformed churches have women pastors, gay pastors, and even perform gay marriages.

You won’t find any of that in the Orthodox Church. I don’t see an issue with “complicated ceremonies”—they’re just tradition, not a flaw.
And what’s your beef with Orthodox priesthood?
At least we don’t have women or gay pastors like some of your churches do.

Mariology? That’s more a Catholic term, sure, but we Orthodox honor the Virgin Mary too, and I see zero problem with that.

At the very least, you can walk into any Orthodox church anywhere in the world and not encounter a gay pastor, a woman pastor, or a lesbian pastor.

I prefer a good, reformed church before a bad reformed church and before Catholicism or Eastern Orthodoxy.

Or a generally protestant church that is good and balanced. Arguing that there are also bad ones is not too relevant.

 

[Chrysostomos]

lets introduce the same word again that i told you already .
You said , I keep saying that ALL churches are false .
you mean that MOST CHURCHES are false . I DIDNT say all . but man the number
that are already infected with the harlot , IS HIGH friend . VERY VERY HIGH in number .

Great! Finally! You admit there are churches that aren’t false, so there must be a true church. Name it. I hope it’s not your “tiny one-man bunker”?

 

[Chrysostomos]

I prefer a good, reformed church before a bad reformed church and before Catholicism or Eastern Orthodoxy.

Or a generally protestant church that is good and balanced. Arguing that there are also bad ones is not too relevant.

You advised me to attend a “ reformed church,” but you haven’t specified which one.

If I pick randomly without prior research, I could easily end up with a gay pastor, a woman pastor, a lesbian pastor, or even stumble into a gay wedding ceremony.

 

[HealthyShape]

You advised me to attend a “ reformed church,” but you haven’t specified which one.

If I pick randomly without prior research, I could easily end up with a gay pastor, a woman pastor, a lesbian pastor, or even stumble into a gay wedding ceremony.

Do a prior research then. Really, this conversation is like on some life support at this point.

 

[Chrysostomos]

Do a prior research then. Really, this conversation is like on some life support at this point.

You didn’t warn me upfront that I’d need to do thorough research before stepping into a “reformed church.”

Good thing I already knew that. But what if I didn’t?

Imagine you advised me to visit a “reformed church,” and I went to the nearest one I found on Google Maps.
Then I walk in and see a lesbian pastor officiating a gay wedding ceremony.

I’d be the one needing CPR after that, not our conversation!

 

[Chrysostomos]

There is nothing here for me to repent of, since I'm in line with God's word. But you clearly are not. You need to first of all receive Christ for real in order to have His mind and heart and understanding on things.....not to mention that your eternal destiny is at stake.

Woe to you, hypocrites!

Funny how a group of people (Catholics) who claim to be Christian will pull out all the stops to try and convince a non-Catholic who actually has met the Lord and been born again, that they are mistaken and they better drop their faith. LOL....except that it isn't funny where someone's eternal destiny is at stake. Enemies of the gospel and of the cross, I would call that regardless of how they might talk about the death and resurrection of Jesus. Under a spirit that is not God's. Nevertheless it is not for me to judge (in the sense of condemn) individual souls....but we sure do need to discern.

Your double standards are glaring: You demonize Catholics—who confess Jesus as Lord, the Trinity, and the Resurrection—as enemies of the gospel, wielding Scripture that Catholics compiled into one canon under the guidance of the Holy Spirit at councils like Carthage (397 AD). Yet, you forbid judging Jews who curse Christ and deny His Messiahship. You lean on a supposed “download from heaven” to vilify Catholics, while citing the same “Holy Spirit” to excuse Talmudists pushing an anti-Christ agenda.

By "balance" I am talking about reminding people not to be anti-semitic. Your posts sometimes sound rather harsh to my ears and I'm concerned about the potential for anti-semitism. I am just trying to balance the things you are saying with reminders that we as Christians should have love for the Jews and not sit in judgment over them.

 

[amigo de christo]

Great! Finally! You admit there are churches that aren’t false, so there must be a true church. Name it. I hope it’s not your “tiny one-man bunker”?

I was waiting for it to surface . And indeed it has my friend .
You are well farther advanced into this than what was first seen .
but i kept watching you my friend.
You done bought it my friend .
The RCC is of satan . you wont get me pointing anyone in that direction .
Now as far as the protestant realm
YEAH you wont see me pointing them IN THAT direction .
TO JESUS AND THE BIBLE . that is where i shall point them . YOu all have already bought
into the very tatic that will lead , IF IT HAS NOT LED YOU ALREADY , to the lie .
I will expose and continue to expose ecumeincal unity and finding common ground interfaith and all connected to it .

 

[Chrysostomos]

I was waiting for it to surface . And indeed it has my friend .
You are well farther advanced into this than what was first seen .
but i kept watching you my friend.
You done bought it my friend .
The RCC is of satan . you wont get me pointing anyone in that direction .
Now as far as the protestant realm
YEAH you wont see me pointing them IN THAT direction .
TO JESUS AND THE BIBLE . that is where i shall point them . YOu all have already bought
into the very tatic that will lead , IF IT HAS NOT LED YOU ALREADY , to the lie .
I will expose and continue to expose ecumeincal unity and finding common ground interfaith and all connected to it .

So you’re dodging the question again.
You won’t name a single true church—is it some kind of secret?

Now you claim we’ve all “bought into” a lie.
What, you’re the only one who hasn’t? Or is there someone else out there who’s escaped this grand deception besides you?

All I hear from you are antitheses, but not a single thesis.

 

[amigo de christo]

So you’re dodging the question again.
You won’t name a single true church—is it some kind of secret?

Now you claim we’ve all “bought into” a lie.
What, you’re the only one who hasn’t? Or is there someone else out there who’s escaped this grand deception besides you?

All I hear from you are antitheses, but not a single thesis.

The sheep have not bought into the lie .
but many have already and many more are already headed right into the ecumneical cup of a WHORE
that will in time have led them RIGHT TO IT .
HEY , yoo hoo , i have a secrete .
THE NEXT time anyone hollers lets find common ground with false religoins
TRY TELLING THEM , rather than finding it , HEY yoo hoo LIGHT HAS nothing IN COMMON with darkness .
ITS ALL a sham . Being unequally yoked for any cause , no matter if even the cause seemeth just
IS A TOTAL sham and delusion . Might we get ourselves BACK into the bible again .
I dont gather with the harlot or those who do her work .
WE must try rather and pull an yone out of it , expose it . You might seriously go and learn what that even means .

 

[Chrysostomos]

The sheep have not bought into the lie .
but many have already and many more are already headed right into the ecumneical cup of a WHORE
that will in time have led them RIGHT TO IT .
HEY , yoo hoo , i have a secrete .
THE NEXT time anyone hollers lets find common ground with false religoins
TRY TELLING THEM , rather than finding it , HEY yoo hoo LIGHT HAS nothing IN COMMON with darkness .
ITS ALL a sham . Being unequally yoked for any cause , no matter if even the cause seemeth just
IS A TOTAL sham and delusion . Might we get ourselves BACK into the bible again .
I dont gather with the harlot or those who do her work .
WE must try rather and pull an yone out of it , expose it . You might seriously go and learn what that even means .

You’re still piling on antitheses, ranting about a “whore’s cup” and “ecumenical lies,” but you refuse to point to the truth.

You say, “Get back to the Bible,” as if anyone’s stopping you. Name one Christian denomination that forbids reading the Bible.

 

[Lizbeth]

Woe to you, hypocrites!

Your double standards are glaring: You demonize Catholics—who confess Jesus as Lord, the Trinity, and the Resurrection—as enemies of the gospel, wielding Scripture that Catholics compiled into one canon under the guidance of the Holy Spirit at councils like Carthage (397 AD). Yet, you forbid judging Jews who curse Christ and deny His Messiahship. You lean on a supposed “download from heaven” to vilify Catholics, while citing the same “Holy Spirit” to excuse Talmudists pushing an anti-Christ agenda.

I don't demonize individual "Catholics" as such unless they specifically warrant it, but I do demonize and warn against the institution of the Catholic Church that they belong to.....it's evil,....not of God but of another spirit, and what other spirit is there? And sadly many protestant churches are falling away too in these days. I will warn against Talmudic Judaism too, mixture of bible and Babylon, since there are many Hebrew roots believers who are unequally yoking and linking arms with unbelieving Jews.

Regarding judgment...haven't you read where Paul wrote that we are to judge those inside the church who claim Christ, not those outside? Those inside get tested, corrected, rebuked and reproved........and not welcomed in fellowship if necessary and they meet that criteria. "Form of Godliness but denying the power...from such turn away." If any bring not the same doctrine of Christ the apostles taught, we are not even to wish them godspeed or eat with them. Those "outside", including the Jews, just get the gospel shared and preached to them, in hopes that by our mercy they may receive mercy.

GOD HATES MIXTURE......this is very clear, all through the bible, both old and new testament......and that is what lukewarm is talking about, mixture of hot and cold, holy and profane.......it causes them to be spewed out of His body...kind of a natural consequence. Catholicism is already long ago spewed out at its inception, as concerns those who joined with it....its a mixture of paganism with Christianity, a man-made concoction, not raised up by God..... and it is happening as we speak to the protestant realm that is mixing politics with "religion". I even think mixture might be the abomination of desolation, or at the very least it is what leads to it. Cannot eat of both the table of the Lord and table of idols/demons and cannot serve both God and mammon. To do so means one is not serving God, period.

 

[shepherdsword]

And none of this Perverted Preachers nonsense about doing good to murderers or military enemies and loving Satan and his followers.

There's an important factor that you have failed to consider. There are numerous satanists, murders, child molesters and totally wicked people that have repented and came to the Lord Jesus Christ because someone loved them while they were doing evil. In fact, it's a divine quality for God to do good to those that hate him.

Ro 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.

It is ignorance of this divine quality that give you the impression that the commands of Jesus were limited to those in the church and not the worldly wicked also

Jesus told us to:

Mt 5:39-41
But I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also.And if any man will sue thee at the law, and take away thy coat, let him have thy cloke also. And whosoever shall compel thee to go a mile, go with him twain.

Only one totally blinded by his own hate filled paradigm would ignore the fact this obviously applies to all.

Repent with all your heart. Accept Jesus Christ as your only Lord and serve Him alone. Then Jesus will cleanse you and cast out the unclean spirits that have deceived you with their cunning and lies.

OHHH the IRONY.
That a bitter and hateful antisemite such as yourself would accuse someone else of being deceived by an evil spirit. sad really...take your own advice and REPENT.

 

[amigo de christo]

I don't demonize individual "Catholics" as such unless they specifically warrant it, but I do demonize and warn against the institution of the Catholic Church that they belong to.....it's evil,....not of God but of another spirit, and what other spirit is there? And sadly many protestant churches are falling away too in these days. I will warn against Talmudic Judaism too, mixture of bible and Babylon, since there are many Hebrew roots believers who are unequally yoking and linking arms with unbelieving Jews.

Regarding judgment...haven't you read where Paul wrote that we are to judge those inside the church who claim Christ, not those outside? Those inside get tested, corrected, rebuked and reproved........and not welcomed in fellowship if necessary and they meet that criteria. "Form of Godliness but denying the power...from such turn away." If any bring not the same doctrine of Christ the apostles taught, we are not even to wish them godspeed or eat with them. Those "outside", including the Jews, just get the gospel shared and preached to them, in hopes that by our mercy they may receive mercy.

GOD HATES MIXTURE......this is very clear, all through the bible, both old and new testament......and that is what lukewarm is talking about, mixture of hot and cold, holy and profane.......it causes them to be spewed out of His body...kind of a natural consequence. Catholicism is already long ago spewed out at its inception, as concerns those who joined with it....its a mixture of paganism with Christianity, a man-made concoction, not raised up by God..... and it is happening as we speak to the protestant realm that is mixing politics with "religion". I even think mixture might be the abomination of desolation, or at the very least it is what leads to it. Cannot eat of both the table of the Lord and table of idols/demons and cannot serve both God and mammon. To do so means one is not serving God, period.

To the trenches sister . Many now sit under the shade of A Harlot .
Having no idea of the death she brings upon them all . very serious and very deadly
is it to sit under a harlot . For within them chambers is naught but death leading all within to the second death .
And that aint even nearly as grave as i could be about this . WE sticking to the scriptures sister . TO CHRIST .
OUR KINGDOM is above , NOT HERE .

 

[HealthyShape]

You didn’t warn me upfront that I’d need to do thorough research before stepping into a “reformed church.”

Good thing I already knew that. But what if I didn’t?

Imagine you advised me to visit a “reformed church,” and I went to the nearest one I found on Google Maps.
Then I walk in and see a lesbian pastor officiating a gay wedding ceremony.

I’d be the one needing CPR after that, not our conversation!

I did not say that the first random reformed or protestant church you would visit will be perfect for you to stay indefinitely. I said to visit a reformed church to see the difference.

Let us just use some common sense, this is artificial arguing about nothing. Do you like being always in some kind of opposition, based on technicalities?