"Jesus conquered the Beast in 70 AD" video

[NotTheRock]

Video Summary:


In this video, Shade Stone argues that "The Beast" in the Book of Revelation refers to the First-Century Roman Empire, which Jesus conquered in 70 AD by establishing a spiritual kingdom (0:10-2:07).

Stone presents several key arguments:

Dating the Book of Revelation (0:37-1:01): He asserts that Revelation was written between 54 AD and 68 AD, before the destruction of Jerusalem and the temple. He uses the prophecy of the "seven kings" in Revelation 17:10 to support this.

Five kings are fallen: He identifies these as Julius Caesar, Augustus Caesar, Tiberius Caesar, Caligula Caesar, and Claudius Caesar, with Claudius dying in 54 AD (14:15-16:01). He notes that Augustus and Tiberius are mentioned in scripture (17:06-18:47).

One king "is": This refers to Nero, who reigned from 54 AD to 68 AD, aligning with the proposed writing period (16:10-16:44). Stone also mentions that Nero's name in Jewish Gematria translates to 666, and in Latin Vulgate to 616 (20:08-20:58).

One king "is yet to come" for a "short space": This is identified as Galba, who reigned for only seven months, dying in 69 AD (19:13-19:49).

Identifying the Beast as the Roman Empire (2:12-4:07): Stone points to the beast rising out of the "sea" (Revelation 13:1), which he connects to the "great sea" in Daniel, representing kingdoms outside Israel (2:32-2:38, 9:46-9:51, 10:46-10:54). He also highlights the beast's "scarlet" color (3:25-3:46) and "iron teeth" (11:16-11:19), linking them to the reddish attire of Roman centurions and the "iron legs" of the Nebuchadnezzar statue in Daniel (3:50-4:07, 11:16-12:17).

Connecting to Daniel's Prophecy (4:20-5:04, 8:59-13:12): The speaker argues that the angel's surprise at John's marveling (Revelation 17:7) indicates John should have recognized the beast as the fourth beast from Daniel's prophecy, which represents the Roman Empire (4:54-5:04). He details how Daniel's four beasts (Babylonian, Medo-Persian, Grecian, and Roman) align with the historical context (9:09-10:08). Both Daniel's fourth beast and Revelation's beast are described as having ten horns, further solidifying the connection (12:55-13:02).


In conclusion, Stone asserts that Jesus conquered this Roman beast in 70 AD by establishing a spiritual, indestructible kingdom that operates by faith, not by sight (21:02-21:28).

Excellent summary. Thank you.

 

[NotTheRock]

Yes because it is HERESY to teach the second coming already happened.

Please provide the verse that specifies "the second coming" and then we can discuss further.

 

[Marty fox]

Were the Jewish religious leaders the "false prophet"?

Just like Rome was a demonic the beast manifested in people like Nero, I believe that the false prophet was also a demonic beast manifested in the Jewish Pharisees in Jesis time.

 

[ProverbsInPink]

Where does the Bible state a "second coming"?

Acts 1:10-11
And while they were gazing into heaven as he went, behold, two men stood by them in white robes, and said, “Men of Galilee, why do you stand looking into heaven? This Jesus, who was taken up from you into heaven, will come in the same way as you saw him go into heaven.”


Hebrews 9:28
So Christ, having been offered once to bear the sins of many, will appear a second time, not to deal with sin but to save those who are eagerly waiting for him.

Revelation 1:7
Behold, he is coming with the clouds, and every eye will see him, even those who pierced him, and all tribes of the earth will wail on account of him. Even so. Amen.

40 Bible Verses About Second Coming (With Commentary) - The Bible Outlined

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[NotTheRock]

Acts 1:10-11
And while they were gazing into heaven as he went, behold, two men stood by them in white robes, and said, “Men of Galilee, why do you stand looking into heaven? This Jesus, who was taken up from you into heaven, will come in the same way as you saw him go into heaven.”


Hebrews 9:28
So Christ, having been offered once to bear the sins of many, will appear a second time, not to deal with sin but to save those who are eagerly waiting for him.

Revelation 1:7
Behold, he is coming with the clouds, and every eye will see him, even those who pierced him, and all tribes of the earth will wail on account of him. Even so. Amen.

40 Bible Verses About Second Coming (With Commentary) - The Bible Outlined

“For the Son of Man is going to come in ... Finish Up

bibleoutlined.com

Thank you. So Hebrews 9:28 specifies a "second time", but only to save those waiting for him.

Is it possible that Jesus did return in 70 AD on behalf of some and will return again in our future?

 

[NotTheRock]

Acts 1:10-11
And while they were gazing into heaven as he went, behold, two men stood by them in white robes, and said, “Men of Galilee, why do you stand looking into heaven? This Jesus, who was taken up from you into heaven, will come in the same way as you saw him go into heaven.”


Hebrews 9:28
So Christ, having been offered once to bear the sins of many, will appear a second time, not to deal with sin but to save those who are eagerly waiting for him.

Revelation 1:7
Behold, he is coming with the clouds, and every eye will see him, even those who pierced him, and all tribes of the earth will wail on account of him. Even so. Amen.

40 Bible Verses About Second Coming (With Commentary) - The Bible Outlined

“For the Son of Man is going to come in ... Finish Up

bibleoutlined.com

There may be a transnlational error with the word "world" instead of "land", which would pertain to the land of ancient Israel.

Matthew 24:30 KJV
30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.

Matthew 24:30 CLNT
30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of Mankind in heaven, and then all the tribes of the land shall grieve, and they shall see the Son of Mankind coming on the clouds of heaven with power and much glory.

 

[ProverbsInPink]

There may be a transnlational error with the word "world" instead of "land", which would pertain to the land of ancient Israel.

Matthew 24:30 KJV
30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.

Matthew 24:30 CLNT
30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of Mankind in heaven, and then all the tribes of the land shall grieve, and they shall see the Son of Mankind coming on the clouds of heaven with power and much glory.

I think the point of primary importance is His second coming.
When that happens everyone will bear witness.

 

[NotTheRock]

I think the point of primary importance is His second coming.
When that happens everyone will bear witness.

I guess my question is if Jesus is limited to only one return trip to this world. Is it possible that he returned in 70 AD and that he will return again in the future? Did not Jesus say that he will return in the lifetimes of some of the apostles or did I misunderstand the scriptures?

 

[ProverbsInPink]

I guess my question is if Jesus is limited to only one return trip to this world. Is it possible that he returned in 70 AD and that he will return again in the future? Did not Jesus say that he will return in the lifetimes of some of the apostles or did I misunderstand the scriptures?

He said , truly I tell you, this generation will not pass away until all these things have happened.

Matthew 24:34 Study Bible: Truly I tell you, this generation will not pass away, until all these things are accomplished.

Which is why many think the second coming has already happened.

That's a good point given if any know the span of a generation , forty years, it is God=Jesus.

Though there are those that reach to make a point that a generation isn't as we understand it.

So,either they're right or Jesus failed to keep His word.

Actually, the way this world is now and has become this bad over these 2000+ years since Jesus returned home, I can also see how it can be argued we are living in the after world state, and after Jesus did return as promised.

Either way, God knows.

I just keep the faith, labor as God leads, discipline myself to follow the wisdom,let go and let God, and figure whatever is God's will shall come to pass.

All I can do,all any actual Christian do, is be in His peace and be ready.

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[amigo de christo]

It was written much later which is why there is no prophecies in it covering the events of AD 70. Zero. Not one word about the temple being destroyed. Nothing.

it sure seems it was written later .
Notice who its written too . THE SEvEN CHURCHES of asia .
Notice that my friend . THE message was to the seven churches
I didnt notice the church in jersualem being mentioned . JUST the seven in asia .

 

[amigo de christo]

He said , truly I tell you, this generation will not pass away until all these things have happened.

Matthew 24:34 Study Bible: Truly I tell you, this generation will not pass away, until all these things are accomplished.

Which is why many think the second coming has already happened.

That's a good point given if any know the span of a generation , forty years, it is God=Jesus.

Though there are those that reach to make a point that a generation isn't as we understand it.

So,either they're right or Jesus failed to keep His word.

Actually, the way this world is now and has become this bad over these 2000+ years since Jesus returned home, I can also see how it can be argued we are living in the after world state, and after Jesus did return as promised.

Either way, God knows.

I just keep the faith, labor as God leads, discipline myself to follow the wisdom,let go and let God, and figure whatever is God's will shall come to pass.

All I can do,all any actual Christian do, is be in His peace and be ready.

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Just a question
but has anyone ever wondered who that kingdom , that head was that was WOUNDED by a sword
and yet comes back . WHO is this head .
And would you like to hear something that has happened and it was so odd too .
rememeber way back in twenty thirteen when all the nar realm and protestants went to ROME
to meet and talk with this late pope franics .
WHAT were they all h ol lering . even the prostestant realm picked up on it and began to say and to chant it .
HEALING THE WOUND . WHOSE DEADLY WOUND was HEALED . odd huh .
Wanna hear something else they chanted as they are waiting on a big increase of miracles
FIRE FROM HEAVEN . SEND F IRE FROM HEAVEN they were chanting . He had power to send FIRE FROM HEAVEN
and decieved them by the means of those miracles .
KINDA ODD .
specially when we see exactly where this merger is headed all right to .
THE LIE OF AN TI CHRIST and ITS MESSAGE FOR WORLD PEACE N SAFETY . sounds to me
LIKE THEY ALL BEING SET UP BIG TIME .

 

[ProverbsInPink]

Just a question
but has anyone ever wondered who that kingdom , that head was that was WOUNDED by a sword
and yet comes back . WHO is this head .
And would you like to hear something that has happened and it was so odd too .
rememeber way back in twenty thirteen when all the nar realm and protestants went to ROME
to meet and talk with this late pope franics .
WHAT were they all h ol lering . even the prostestant realm picked up on it and began to say and to chant it .
HEALING THE WOUND . WHOSE DEADLY WOUND was HEALED . odd huh .
Wanna hear something else they chanted as they are waiting on a big increase of miracles
FIRE FROM HEAVEN . SEND F IRE FROM HEAVEN they were chanting . He had power to send FIRE FROM HEAVEN
and decieved them by the means of those miracles .
KINDA ODD .
specially when we see exactly where this merger is headed all right to .
THE LIE OF AN TI CHRIST and ITS MESSAGE FOR WORLD PEACE N SAFETY . sounds to me
LIKE THEY ALL BEING SET UP BIG TIME .

I don't recall those events during the term of Francis.
Can you find any articles or video reporting that?

I'm looking too.


Personally,I think Francis was murdered through a slow process rather than an outright assassination.
He was highly controversial among the old guard and traditional Catholics thought he was a radical.
I know one Catholic woman that confided she was seriously reconsidering her faith in the church due to Francis.

Then under this new guy there's this.

 

[amigo de christo]

He said , truly I tell you, this generation will not pass away until all these things have happened.

Matthew 24:34 Study Bible: Truly I tell you, this generation will not pass away, until all these things are accomplished.

Which is why many think the second coming has already happened.

That's a good point given if any know the span of a generation , forty years, it is God=Jesus.

Though there are those that reach to make a point that a generation isn't as we understand it.

So,either they're right or Jesus failed to keep His word.

Actually, the way this world is now and has become this bad over these 2000+ years since Jesus returned home, I can also see how it can be argued we are living in the after world state, and after Jesus did return as promised.

Either way, God knows.

I just keep the faith, labor as God leads, discipline myself to follow the wisdom,let go and let God, and figure whatever is God's will shall come to pass.

All I can do,all any actual Christian do, is be in His peace and be ready.

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IF we focus on the signs also and what is going around within and around us
THINGS will become much clearer .
For these who had hollered healing the wound and fire from heaven
Have now led us into a peace covenant they beleive can bring peace n sa fety to the world .
AND NOT ONLY that .
Take a seat my friend . WE HAVE US A DIGITAL SYSTEM
by which it will be ran by AI .
And they themselves have admitted with such a sytstem it can cut ANYONE out unable to buy or to sell .
AND what do you notice about AI .
IT can produce ANY IMAGE that can speak ANY langauge .
And now a word .
AND he had power to give LIFE unto the image of the beast so that the image could BOTH SPEAK and cause .
LOOK around . We need to be here to help each other now . to stand and contend for the true faith .
TIMES have changed , laws have changed , and things are only getting much more deceptive .

 

[ProverbsInPink]

Just a question
but has anyone ever wondered who that kingdom , that head was that was WOUNDED by a sword
and yet comes back . WHO is this head .
And would you like to hear something that has happened and it was so odd too .
rememeber way back in twenty thirteen when all the nar realm and protestants went to ROME
to meet and talk with this late pope franics .
WHAT were they all h ol lering . even the prostestant realm picked up on it and began to say and to chant it .
HEALING THE WOUND . WHOSE DEADLY WOUND was HEALED . odd huh .
Wanna hear something else they chanted as they are waiting on a big increase of miracles
FIRE FROM HEAVEN . SEND F IRE FROM HEAVEN they were chanting . He had power to send FIRE FROM HEAVEN
and decieved them by the means of those miracles .
KINDA ODD .
specially when we see exactly where this merger is headed all right to .
THE LIE OF AN TI CHRIST and ITS MESSAGE FOR WORLD PEACE N SAFETY . sounds to me
LIKE THEY ALL BEING SET UP BIG TIME .

I did find this as regards,heal the wound.

Doug Batchelor

POPE ADMONISHES THE UNITED STATES TO “HEAL WOUNDS” "This is, therefore, the time to let “us” prevail over “me”, to heal wounds and find a renewed unity based on those principles that have always...

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[amigo de christo]

I don't recall those events during the term of Francis.
Can you find any articles or video reporting that?

I'm looking too.


Personally,I think Francis was murdered through a slow process rather than an outright assassination.
He was highly controversial among the old guard and traditional Catholics thought he was a radical.
I know one Catholic woman that confided she was seriously reconsidering her faith in the church due to Francis.

Then under this new guy there's this.

I will have to get my sister to help me find these v idoes .
But i have seen myself pope francis preaching this healing the wound
and kenneth and others saying the same thing .
I will try and find these vidoes. its been quite a few years back .

 

[ProverbsInPink]

I will have to get my sister to help me find these v idoes .
But i have seen myself pope francis preaching this healing the wound
and kenneth and others saying the same thing .
I will try and find these vidoes. its been quite a few years back .

I look forward to looking what you find.

I searched too for the chant,as related to Pope Francis, send fire from Heaven.
A few sites claimed that is false as regard peoples claim Francis had changed such a thing.

So far I haven't found anything that reports people chanting that in the presence of Francis.

 

[Jay Ross]

Hello,

By claiming that the beast(s) were human entities, those people are spinning a lie.

The entity types of the beasts are heavenly host entities and not the Roman Empire.

While ever this lie is continued, many will be misled into the false narrative of the Reformation fathers.

The four winds of heaven, spiritual entities that inhabited heaven are the real beasts in Daniel 2. The blew across the sea and caused humanity to manifest their domain upon the face of the earth projecting their respective dominion characteristic.

In Ezekiel 34 God promises to remove the beasts of the fields and He did this as Isaiah prophesied in Isaiah 24:21-22.

Oh well, the lie is in the title of this thread that Jesus conquered Satan in 70 AD.

 

[ewq1938]

Depends how you define the second coming.

1. The bodily return of Jesus and start His 1000 years reign.
2. Rapture of saints in the skies, saving them from the upcoming judgement.

(2) definitely happened, (1) not.

The rapture definitely did not happen and it happens at the one and only second coming.

 

[ewq1938]

Video Summary:


In this video, Shade Stone argues that "The Beast" in the Book of Revelation refers to the First-Century Roman Empire, which Jesus conquered in 70 AD by establishing a spiritual kingdom (0:10-2:07).

That's not what happened. The Romans conquered the Jewish rebellion. Rome was not conquered in AD70. The beast was not Rome. The beast hasn't even risen yet and it won't be Rome.

 

[ewq1938]

Please provide the verse that specifies "the second coming" and then we can discuss further.

There is no verse with "second coming". There are no verses with any English words because the NT was written in Greek. Your question is using a fallacy known as the argument from silence.