You went to great lengths, breaking my text into tiny quotes, only to write a highly dubious response. You haven’t answered a single question:
I did break your texts because you went through great lengths to squish together those things in the way that you did to blame me for some of what you had introduced.
1. “Should you help the wicked and love those who hate the Lord?” (2 Chronicles 19:2).
I have no problem or argument with 2 Ch 19:2
You keep quoting that which in its context pertains to a millitary alliance with the King of Judah, whereas I am simply taking it down to where we can relate in real life as far as the wicked are spoken of for us, (who are not in the same situation) as a king might be making a millitary alliance ( in joining forces) with another who hates the LORD. Thats why I brought in what Paul said, as far as the wicked go (and the context we might find ourselves in). It is also why I brought in King David (who is known to be a man after Gods own heart) but became as one that despised the LORD himself, just to further examine these things (which I dont think you are honest about wanting to do). You seem to have some sort of contention concerning doing that and a leaning towards contradicting rather than recconciling the same better. I typically compare things (you might not) that blesses me, but that irritates you (can't please everyone) just ignore me than.
You dodged it, claiming it’s about kings. It’s not kings who decide who we help—it’s our own choice.
No I did not dodge it, the example given us there is talking about the Prophet Jehu to Jehoshaphat the king of Judah with the wicked King Ahab. I brought it down as it might have been exercised in the church (as far as the wicked among them) and Paul's instruction there. I was showing in other places who was considered the same (at one time or another) or as one that despises the LORD and how that is shown in an example and also defined therein (but you believe all of that is irrelevant for whatever reason). Whereas I think its best to define who loves the LORD and what exactly determines that, who despises the LORD and what exactly determines that, and how does the grace of God by Christ play into the same, knowing the preaching the gospel is to sinners, Christ dying for ungodly and weighing out those things in light of what Paul tells us to get a better understanding. Whereas you throw up a verse and want to contend over a one verse, which is pretty much what trolls do, but I havent followed too much of what you posted to determine that yet.
2. You say the wicked must be “put away” from the church (1 Corinthians 5:13), but you don’t answer the question—who do you consider wicked? Why bring this up in this topic? What’s the point?
No, Paul tells us that in 1 Cr 5:9-13 And that he was not speaking of those who are without, or of this world (because we would have to leave the world if that be the case) but Paul said he was speaking of any man
that is called a brother in 1 Cr 5:11
Going on to say,
1 Cr 5:12 For
what have I to do to judge them also that are without? do
not ye judge them that are within?
1 Cr 5:13
But them that are without God judgeth. Therefore
put away from among yourselves that wicked person.
3. I asked: “Do you also believe the Catholic Church is led by a satanic spirit?”
You are not asking sincerely, you are just testing me, and inviting me to blaspheme any and every spirit within that particular church. And I won't do that because Jesus shows us that even a dead church can have those in the same that serve him in them. I wouldn't want to speak against any of these or the Spirit they are walking to make such a reckless blanket statement. Neither am I required to.
Consider this a dodge to one of important questions if you must.
You call it a “dead church”, but what makes you think the Catholic Church is “dead”?
It was actually Jesus who called the Sardius church dead. I was simply saying I cannot condemn an entire church of people (according to the Spirit) when Jesus himself shows us there were a few names in such places like Sardius (which he himself said was dead) but who would go on to walk with him.
You disagree with some Catholic and Protestant doctrines but won’t specify which.
It was not asked of me, I didn't feel the need to specify any.
So, are you planning to “expel” them or not?
No, Paul said it was something that was done by the many of them in his second letter, not just by one person.
2 Cr 2:6
Sufficient to such a man is this punishment,
which was inflicted of many.
2 Cr 2:7 So
that contrariwise ye ought rather to forgive him, and comfort him, lest perhaps such a one should be swallowed up with overmuch sorrow.
2 Cr 2:8
Wherefore I beseech you that ye would confirm your love toward him.
Why cite 1 Corinthians 5:13 if not for that?
You brought up the wicked and theres an example of how to deal with wickedness in the church
1 Cr 5:1 It is reported
commonly that there is fornication among you, and such fornication as is not so much as named among the Gentiles, that one should have his father's wife.
1 Cr 5:2
And ye are puffed up, and have not rather mourned, that
he that hath done this deed might be taken away from among you.
He is not talking about people in the world, but within
1 Cr 5:11
But now I have written unto you not to keep company,
if any man that is called a brother be a fornicator, or covetous, or an idolater, or a railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner;
with such an one no not to eat.
1 Cr 5:12 For what have I to do to judge them also that are without?
do not ye judge them that are within?
1 Cr 5:13
But them that are without God judgeth. Therefore
put away from among yourselves that wicked person.
Stopping there, Posting the full verse here
Jehu (a prophet) to Jehoshaphat (a King)
2 Ch 19:2 And
Jehu the son of Hanani the seer went out to meet him, and said to king Jehoshaphat,
Shouldest thou help the ungodly, and love them that hate the LORD? therefore is wrath upon thee from before the LORD.
If we compare around, it says similarly here of them which despise the LORD the following
Jeremiah 3:17
They say still unto them that despise me, The LORD hath said, Ye shall have peace; and they say unto every one that walketh after the imagination of his own heart, No evil shall come upon you.
God not being a respecter of persons sends Nathan (a prophet) to David (a King) concerning David despising the LORD also
2 Sam 12:10
Now therefore the sword shall never depart from thine house; because thou hast despised me, and hast taken the wife of Uriah the Hittite to be thy wife.
2 Sam 12:11
Thus saith the LORD, Behold, I will raise up evil against thee out of thine own house, and I will take thy wives before thine eyes, and give them unto thy neighbour, and he shall lie with thy wives in the sight of this sun.
I think it shows consistency between them, though you might feel they are irrelevent
You put in all this effort to quote me piece by piece, but for what? You dodge every question. What’s the point? What are you even trying to say? You’re saying nothing on topic.
It was very easy, no effort at all, when you squished what you did into that reply I just felt like separating (which is my snarky way of calling attention to it) and adressed them that way. When you say I dodge every question, I don't see how that is true, although in this reply I did somewhat in part, because there was a couple irrelevant ones (like abstaining from naming doctrines of all churches) and an attempt to get me to blaspheme, that I didn't answer the way you might have liked.
