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So, Paul was teaching the church in Thessaloniki about Trump? Or what are you even trying to say? Be clear, you are just presenting ambiguity and future predictions, but no real connections have been shown. Only loose associations, like "the word peace is in this verse and Trump said it too, therefore I will post these two things together".

Or: "Zechariah talks about Jerusalem and nations, the UN is now accusing Israel of war crimes, therefore Zechariah is about our times".

How can I even take such "eschatology" seriously?

Where have you been? Haven't you ever heard of the "last Trump"?

Have you learned nothing about putting lego's together?
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Yeah, the UN and many nations are condemning Israel, including the LEFT and some on the Right here in the USA.

Israel will soon embrace her fals emessiah = nothing to do with prophesy though!!!

Yep, nothing to do with prophesy........................you have blinders on = take them off
The real issue is all about Lefty Socialist and some greed driven RINO's who are into directing the NWO ! To a One world Government that Dominates over everyone like a mongrel dog = Communism ! It's been well in the making from the 1960's on .

Nothing to do with God ! but clearly of Mans works !

Such people love un elected Leadership over the People and in fact Idolise all such !

The Lefty Socialist Jews are a Curse who let Islam Hamas into Attack Israel in fact and not to mention such were totaly involved in trying to undermine the PM of Israel in fact !
Yep it's Them Socialist dingbats who are total morons, clearly brought it all on and Slander PM Ben with total Lies 24/7 just as we can see the same Mob of Socialist Communist who Slander Trump 24/7 with so much BS ! That the Satanic Mob created ! it was they who kept wanting nothing but War and warfare games 24/7 !

Regarding the Leftys, They never said to Hamas to stop ! in fact, but gave Hamas all that they could, so as to keep waging War on in fact !

Now even tho Hamas Terrorist used it's own people to become human targets 24/7, in every dirty low life cunning acts, The Left Media turn around and make the Jews out to be the Monster ? when it's clearly not the case !

Not to menion the Socialist Jews are totaly guilty of the act of letting their beloved Hamas attack Israel in the start of it all !

The Lefty's support Hamas killing it's own people who were shot for wanting food droped as Aid in fact ! the Leftys have a gods that they idolise that's why they are so blind, they only want to see what they only want to see ! typical of Nazis and Communist, they ask and seek nothing but for idols.
 
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It's called The Mainstream Media, fool ! not MSM
I am answering you when you said,

Most people who swallow the MSM are total fools in fact !

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So you reject that Hamas wants to wipe all of the Jews out of the Land ? do you !

Do you typically speak with exclamations !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!?
Now what of Israels defence ?
Why are you asking me? I dont follow it.

if it did not have the fire power to stop all of the Bombs Hamas sent into Israel ? what would of been left of Israel fool ! Nothing ! wiped out ! The State of Israel would of been wiped out in a month !
But thanks to PM Ben it stood !
You thank Ben more than God, try it the other way around

(Oops forgot.... !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
Not to mention PM Ben said for Hamas to Stand down how many times ? But the Media only incoraged Hamas 24/7 !
The Media is guilty of supporting Terrorist in fact ! aiding and abeting Terrorist in fact !

Oh my goodness !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
PM Ben had to deal with such, that are clearly of the lowest of the low Terrorist ! who clearly are a Death Cult ! of the most dirty cunning tactics in fact ! and here we have the Media in love with such Dogs ! who totaly slander PM Ben. who clearly has done no wrong ! it's all due to the cunning of Hamas and the Satanic Media who loves to peddle Lies ! and egg Hamas on and still does !

Their is clearly nothing good about Hamas at all !
Thank you for the update !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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I was addressing the issue, and asking your thoughts on the scriptures concerning them which blaspheme, showing Jesus would be a sign that would be spoken against, and the following

Luke.12
[10] And whosoever shall speak a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but unto him that blasphemeth against the Holy Ghost it shall not be forgiven.

With exception of the Holy Ghost in the above
, that which pertains to the Son and the following here would be forgiven them

Mark 3:28 Verily I say unto you, All sins shall be forgiven unto the sons of men, and blasphemies wherewith soever they shall blaspheme

You apparently dont know me too well around these parts I can see clfh

Com on now, isn't this the perfect example of the pot calling the kettle black?

Show me my own helping any wicked or this ungodly love for those who hate the Lord. Show me my blaspheme against those who are not these zionists.

You dont want to be the hypocrit you want to make others out to be do you?

Jesus said,

Mat 5:43 Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy.

But I say unto what?

Matt 5:44 But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;

Same here

Romans 11:28 As concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes: but as touching the election, they are beloved for the fathers' sakes.

Doesn't say make allegiances with any of them, even Jacob is called ungodly.



Right, in the context of Israel, Jesus would be a sign spoken against, set for the same both falling and rising again

Luke 2:34 And Simeon blessed them, and said unto Mary his mother, Behold, this child is set for the fall and rising again of many in Israel; and for a sign which shall be spoken against


Right he says this as I have posted

Luke.12
[10] And whosoever shall speak a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but unto him that blasphemeth against the Holy Ghost it shall not be forgiven.

With exception of the Holy Ghost in the above
, that which pertains to the Son and the following here would be forgiven them

Mark 3:28 Verily I say unto you, All sins shall be forgiven unto the sons of men, and blasphemies wherewith soever they shall blaspheme


Jesus said all, I didnt suggest anything



I think the one conveniently ignoring things is on your part Again, reread what I posted, and notice I highlighted it for you (in blue).
I did not conveniently ignore anything as you say.

Luke.12
[10] And whosoever shall speak a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but unto him that blasphemeth against the Holy Ghost it shall not be forgiven.

With exception of the Holy Ghost in the above
, that which pertains to the Son and the following here would be forgiven them

Mark 3:28 Verily I say unto you, All sins shall be forgiven unto the sons of men, and blasphemies wherewith soever they shall blaspheme



Its a very easy thing to do, search the forum, my name, while running the word Jew/Jews/Israel/zionism (or whatever you wish) and then go onto to accuse me after you find the things you want to put on my part.

Its less hypocrital, and you won't need to be a false accuser, but a true accuser.


You will have to provide me an example of what it is you are even talking about here.
As far as forgiveness is concerned, we need to clearly differentiate between the nation of Israel as an entity, and individual members of that nation. No nation on the planet is saved or ever will be. Israel as a nation lost all her privileges when Jesus declared, "your house is left unto you desolate". However, individuals will always have the option to choose grace and mercy and redemption through Jesus.
Even when some rightly demonstrate through Scripture that today the church is spiritual Israel, the church as a whole is not saved. Individuals are saved by faith, and they are what constitute the church, regardless of denomination. They also constitute Israel. The apostle Peter applied a major promise to Israel as being fulfilled by the body of Christ, His church.

“But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light: ”
1 Peter 2:9 KJV

In Isaiah's prophecy, Christ is declared to be both a sure foundation and a stone of stumbling. The apostle Peter, writing by inspiration of the Holy Spirit, clearly shows to whom Christ is a foundation stone, and to whom a rock of offense.
 
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“But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light: ”
1 Peter 2:9 KJV

In Isaiah's prophecy, Christ is declared to be both a sure foundation and a stone of stumbling. The apostle Peter, writing by inspiration of the Holy Spirit, clearly shows to whom Christ is a foundation stone, and to whom a rock of offense.
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As far as forgiveness is concerned, we need to clearly differentiate between the nation of Israel as an entity, and individual members of that nation. No nation on the planet is saved or ever will be. Israel as a nation lost all her privileges when Jesus declared, "your house is left unto you desolate". However, individuals will always have the option to choose grace and mercy and redemption through Jesus.
Even when some rightly demonstrate through Scripture that today the church is spiritual Israel, the church as a whole is not saved. Individuals are saved by faith, and they are what constitute the church, regardless of denomination. They also constitute Israel. The apostle Peter applied a major promise to Israel as being fulfilled by the body of Christ, His church.

“But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light: ”
1 Peter 2:9 KJV

In Isaiah's prophecy, Christ is declared to be both a sure foundation and a stone of stumbling. The apostle Peter, writing by inspiration of the Holy Spirit, clearly shows to whom Christ is a foundation stone, and to whom a rock of offense.
AWESOME

i am so happy you understand my Post on Romans ch11
 

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AWESOME

i am so happy you understand my Post on Romans ch11
I don't know what specific plans God has for the true Jewish people. I have visited a local synagogue and Jewish museum, and interacted w with those who volunteer there. They love God, but yes, they are blind. And they hold no animosity toward the Christian school I accompanied on those visits. But the political entity that calls itself Israel? Prophetically irrelevant. It's sad and heart wrenching that so many are looking at the middle east for clues to prophetic fulfillment regarding these last days. Today, there are two entities fulfilling prophecy daily. They are daily in the news, they are working closer together with every hour that passes, and the leaders thereof uniting to create the final antichrist movement that will engulf us all. This two entities are the papacy, and the current forming of the union of the apostate protestant church and the state in America. They are forming an image to the Papal beast, the original union of church and state depicted in Revelation by the woman (the church) riding and controlling the government power.
 
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Yeah, the UN and many nations are condemning Israel, including the LEFT and some on the Right here in the USA.

Israel will soon embrace her fals emessiah = nothing to do with prophesy though!!!

Yep, nothing to do with prophesy........................you have blinders on = take them off
If by false Messiah you are referring to the Antichrist, then I believe you maybe a little confused. Individual false christs may come along from time to time, but they aren't the Antichrist spoken of throughout Scripture as the enemy to truth and light. Israel may accept some false individual as their Messiah, but they will definitely accept the real Antichrist who is even now courting favor with all the kings of the world, the leader of Israel among them. That's the manner of deception. The Antichrist has been around for a very long time, the church identified him a while back, but the children of those reformers are reversing their own father's testimony.
 
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Antisemitism has been on the rise more than ever. NYS just voted their 1st Muslim mayor and was only a few minutes ago talking with a Christian in my area and, he reminded me of a town in I think Michigan that is run by Muslims and have Sharia Law in place??! Am I wrong to think it is not a very Christian thing to lift up Muslims and bash Jews.
Can anyone please explain to me why this is? I was talking to (texting) a Christian friend in San Diego who replied to my text that our home state just voted in a Muslim with "better than a jew"!

PLEASE someone tell me why this is?

Thank you!
There's a difference between voicing disagreement with what Israel is doing as a nation, and hating actual Jews. Those in leadership over Israel aren't Jews. They are the scriptural synagogue of satan. The IDF actually killed more Jews on October 7th than Hamas supposedly did. That whole thing was planned. The false "jews" over Israel think nothing of sacrificing Jews to increase their power.
 

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There's a difference between voicing disagreement with what Israel is doing as a nation, and hating actual Jews. Those in leadership over Israel aren't Jews. They are the scriptural synagogue of satan. The IDF actually killed more Jews on October 7th than Hamas supposedly did. That whole thing was planned. The false "jews" over Israel think nothing of sacrificing Jews to increase their power.
In one sense i do not blame Israel as they were being bombed relentlessly and the tunnels was an even greater threat.

My son served in the IDF and he did not experience anything as you suggested = "killing their own."

However, when Oct 7th happened, and i was watching, i KNEW that Israel KNEW the attack was coming and they allowed it so that they could go into GAZA.

At least one Israeli who lives there and was in the military said "No way Israel did not know or at the very least immediately detect Hamas coming across the border."

The USA did the same when Japan attacked Pearl Harbor = they knew they were coming!!!

However, we MUST understand that Israel, the land and the people belong to God.
The LORD promised to Restore Israel after/during the Day of Jacob's Trouble = Matt 23:37-39 and Romans ch11

Shalom
 
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There's a difference between voicing disagreement with what Israel is doing as a nation, and hating actual Jews. Those in leadership over Israel aren't Jews. They are the scriptural synagogue of satan. The IDF actually killed more Jews on October 7th than Hamas supposedly did. That whole thing was planned. The false "jews" over Israel think nothing of sacrificing Jews to increase their power.
The whole thing was planed by the Socialist world in fact and backed up by the MS Media whore still.
 

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In one sense i do not blame Israel as they were being bombed relentlessly and the tunnels was an even greater threat.

My son served in the IDF and he did not experience anything as you suggested = "killing their own."

However, when Oct 7th happened, and i was watching, i KNEW that Israel KNEW the attack was coming and they allowed it so that they could go into GAZA.

At least one Israeli who lives there and was in the military said "No way Israel did not know or at the very least immediately detect Hamas coming across the border."

The USA did the same when Japan attacked Pearl Harbor = they knew they were coming!!!

However, we MUST understand that Israel, the land and the people belong to God.
The LORD promised to Restore Israel after/during the Day of Jacob's Trouble = Matt 23:37-39 and Romans ch11

Shalom
Pearl Harbour, was let go, so as to get the USA into the War, created by Rothschilds and Co !

FDR said nothing happens in Government by accedent, you can be sure it was plained that way.
W Churchill said, we could of won the War with out firing a shot ! but for we wanted to win Markets !

So the creation of idiots like Communist and Socialist like Nazis and all are creations of this world that Jesus pointed out as, Full of Delusions and Deceptions !

It was Joe Biden and his Socialist who gave so much fire power to Hamas, so as to help his Socialist idiot Jews into Power with a so called 2 State solution ?
Now what truly is such a 2 State Solution ? No one has said anything in regards at all ! and look who idolises hot air, as such total fools with blind faith in the Socialist gods once again.

Just look at the snail trail of money giving and sending weapons to help creat such Wars, Look at Joe Biden ! he is the head of all such giving away Taxpayers money to fund such all.
Obama had a hand in it all as well.

Look to any Socialist idiot and you can see how much that they love Hamas. Not to mention try to bring on a Nuclear War !

Just look who were helping Iran to become a Nuclear Power !
And look who feeds the Ukraine Killing machine ! that clearly has no regards the People of Ukraine in any way at all ! The Socialist who are clearly in bed with Nazis in fact ! But ask the Media, so what about theise Nazis you are hiding from view of the world ! and you get no answer at all ! and just look at how pathetic the majority of people are who do not even bother to ask the question ! so What is it all about in re4gards your Nazi Mates ! and you get no comment ! for they are as Guilty as Hell ! by not bringing such things up, they think that the majority will just go back to sleep. Nothing here for anyone to see !

But I ask the question, Nazis ? and a War that was created that rejected a peoples rights to Vote ! and not to mention if East Ukraine was alowed to Vote, then No Way would of Russia of had to entered into the idiot War !
So who wanted War in Ukraine ? Socialist Biden and Co and who's only cry was Escalate escalate ! not to mention the same sort of Socialist nonsense in egging on Hamas to keep attacking Israel regardless and try to make Israels PM look in a bad light.
Clearly It's The same Satanic ends used on Israels PM, as is played against Trump !
But people who love the Nazis Socialist crap and Communism are clearly blind to all such tactics in fact because they are clearly Satanic !
 
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Dear @HealthyShape

Unless a person examines all of scripture - with the Anointing of the Holy Spirit, one will have difficulties in "Rightly dividing the Word of Truth" and will come to erroneous conclusions based on man's limited intellect.

The Spirit bears witness to our spirit thru the Written Word of Truth and HE will never compromise or speak against "It is Written"

The OT prophet Daniel contains the prophecy of the First Coming of Christ, the coming of the Antichrist and the Second Coming of Christ.

Please read thru Daniel today with prayer.


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Again, you said nothing. You just want me to find your imagination in the Bible, myself. Because it is just your imagination and nothing is happening today which you can point out that would fit any prophecy.
 
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Yes, the people being the Jews ...not those who say they're Jews and are not, but are the synagogue of satan. There are both in Israel.
The Good News is that the LORD knows the heart of every man/woman.

God can never be deceived.
 
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Again, you said nothing. You just want me to find your imagination in the Bible, myself. Because it is just your imagination and nothing is happening today which you can point out that would fit any prophecy.
You just want me to find your imagination in the Bible
This is a very funny statement to make.
 

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As far as forgiveness is concerned, we need to clearly differentiate between the nation of Israel as an entity, and individual members of that nation. No nation on the planet is saved or ever will be. Israel as a nation lost all her privileges when Jesus declared, "your house is left unto you desolate". However, individuals will always have the option to choose grace and mercy and redemption through Jesus.
Even when some rightly demonstrate through Scripture that today the church is spiritual Israel, the church as a whole is not saved. Individuals are saved by faith, and they are what constitute the church, regardless of denomination. They also constitute Israel. The apostle Peter applied a major promise to Israel as being fulfilled by the body of Christ, His church.

“But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light: ”
1 Peter 2:9 KJV

In Isaiah's prophecy, Christ is declared to be both a sure foundation and a stone of stumbling. The apostle Peter, writing by inspiration of the Holy Spirit, clearly shows to whom Christ is a foundation stone, and to whom a rock of offense.
Yes, Peter was not speaking to the lost unsaved jews. Who are not His people, and never will be. God knows those who are His.
 

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In regards to what is happening in Gaza and Israel, and the discussions on this board.
Plus the chaos in Ukraine and preparations for all out war across Europe.

When we pray for No More War, we should mean it.

When we offer each other a sign of peace at Church, we should mean this for the whole World.

It is dreadful that there are people who still plan for war and attend Church and Remembrance Ceremonies.
 
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Idk if this is okay to share in the thread @Nancy. But the Israel Heritage Foundation have named Trump the Prince of Peace, Messiah, and the king of Jerusalem. This Israel Heritage Foundation is also instrumental in setting the Noahide laws in place, and the system that is monitoring and taking note of every person who speaks against Israel in criticism or disagreement, or anything they deem as antisemitic. A man recently was visited by police after he posted something online about Israel. (Idk the nature of what he posted.) But this is an example of the system that is being put into place, and this will be the system that beheads anyone who doesn't serve the antichrist. Proclaiming Jesus Christ as the Messiah will be considered blasphemy and will be met with beheading. That's the Noahide laws at work.

The best thing to do is to pray for the peace of Jerusalem. Why not pray for the peace of Israel? Idk ...but we are to pray for the peace of Jerusalem. Peace only comes through Jesus Christ.
 

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But the Israel Heritage Foundation have named Trump the Prince of Peace, Messiah, and the king of Jerusalem.
Here is what I found about this and I copy:
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The Israel Heritage Foundation did present President Donald Trump with a "Covenant of Peace Award" in February 2024, which included the title "Prince of Peace".

The group, led by Rabbi David Katz, also presented him with a menorah in appreciation for the Abraham Accords and for his support of Israel.

However, it did not name him "Messiah" or "king of Jerusalem".
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  • "Prince of Peace": This title was explicitly used by the Israel Heritage Foundation when presenting the "Covenant of Peace Award".
  • "Messiah": While some individuals and groups have described Trump in messianic terms, this was not a designation from the Israel Heritage Foundation.
  • Some Jewish perspectives distinguish between a political ally and the actual messianic figure, according to The Jerusalem Post.
  • "King of Jerusalem": The Israel Heritage Foundation awarded Trump a "Crown of Jerusalem" (Keter Yerushalyim) award in July 2023, but not the title "king of Jerusalem".
 
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