The 7 years and the great tribulation period

[Douggg]

The last 1335 days of the 7 years will the great tribulation period. The Gog/Magog event will take place right before the 7 years begin. The 7 years are in Ezekiel 39:9.

Gog/Magog, then the 7 years. In the 7 years, the last 1335 days of it will be the great tribulation period. The 7 trumpet judgments and 7 vial judgements will all take place during the great tribulation period.

 

[Douggg]

 

[Davy]

Doug's chart is totally inaccurate, not aligned with the timeline of prophetic events written in God's Word.

1. the "great tribulation" Jesus forewarned of in Matthew 24 and Mark 13 is the latter part of the Daniel 9:27 symbolic "one week".

Per the KJV, each one of the 'weeks' in the 70 weeks prophecy of Daniel 9 represent a period of 7 years. That 70 weeks prophecy gives a specific starting point for when the command for the Jews to restore and build Jerusalem after their Babylon captivity. That's the 1st Period, and is represented by "seven sevens", or 7 x 7 = 49 years. That happened at the 1st month of Nissan, 454 B.C.

1st Period -- "seven sevens" = 49 years. From 454 B.C. to 405 B.C.

The 2nd Period -- "sixty two"sevens, a period of 434 years. This period follows on the end of the 1st Period and closes with the cutting off of Messiah, at 29 A.D. (434 - 405 = 29 A.D. the time of Christ's crucifixion).

The 3rd Period -- the Daniel 9:27 symbolic "one week"; the final 70th week, and is still expecting today, not yet fulfilled. The Daniel 9:27 verse also reveals that in the middle, or half of that final "one week", a coming false one (Antichrist) will come and end the Jew's sacrifices and temple worship, and instead place the "abomination of desolation" IDOL in the Jews' future new temple which Jesus warned us about in Matthew 24 and Mark 13 about the end of this world.

This means the actual time of "great tribulation" is to be 1260 days, half of the symbolic "one week" (7 years). It also means that "great tribulation" will be the latter... half of the symbolic "one week".


2. Then after that final "one week", when Jesus' future 2nd coming happens, Jesus will build His temple per the Zechariah 6 "BRANCH" prophecy, and thus represent the cleansing of the temple and anointing of the most holy, per Daniel 8:12-14. The Daniel 12:12 verse about those in Christ who remain faithful waiting for Jesus to come after the tribulation being blessed when they come to the 1290 and 1335 days after Jesus has returned, and thus reign with Him over the nations with His "rod of iron".

That is what the actual Bible prophecies are about regarding the coming "great tribulation" and the Antichrist who will setup IDOL worship in the Jew's new 3rd temple in Jerusalem which they will build in our day. And then Lord Jesus will return after all that.

 

[Douggg]

The Daniel 12:12 verse about those in Christ who remain faithful waiting for Jesus to come after the tribulation being blessed when they come to the 1290 and 1335 days after Jesus has returned, and thus reign with Him over the nations with His "rod of iron".

No, the 1290 days and the 1335 days fit within the 7 years, as do the rest of the 15 time of the end timeframes.

1290 days from when the abomination of desolation is setup, the sign of the Son of Man will appear in heaven, Matthew 24:30a. The kings of the earth will react by gathering their armies at Armageddon 45 days to prepare to make war on Jesus His army of heaven. On the 1335th day, the final day of the great tribulation, Jesus will descend from heaven and destroy those armies.

 

[Davy]

No, the 1290 days and the 1335 days fit within the 7 years, as do the rest of the 15 time of the end timeframes.

Nope. That's a fabrication.

 

[Davidpt]

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So when are you going to get around to proving per the NT that Ezekiel 39:9 is taking place during the 70th week, where the 2nd half of the week would be involving great tribulation, thus the 42 months reign of the beast? Show us in Revelation 13 where it ever depicts anyone destroying weapons at the time, and that they have already been doing this for 3.5 years when the 42 month reign begins.
Your charts mean and prove zero unless you can backup your charts via evidence from the NT.

Revelation 13:7 And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations.


According to your chart, while verse 7 is in progress and being fulfilled, Jews are burning and destroying weapons at the time.

Revelation 13:11 And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon.
12 And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed.
13 And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men,
14 And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live.
15 And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.
16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:
17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.

According to your chart, while verses 11-17 are in progress and being fulfilled, Jews are burning and destroying weapons at the time.

Matthew 24:21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.

According to your chart, while verse 21 is in progress and being fulfilled, Jews are burning and destroying weapons at the time.

 

[Douggg]

So when are you going to get around to proving per the NT that Ezekiel 39:9 is taking place during the 70th week, where the 2nd half of the week would be involving great tribulation, thus the 42 months reign of the beast?

Compare Ezekiel 39:17-20 with Revelation 19:17-18. They are both the same event to take place at Jesus's return.

Jesus Himself is speaking in the text of Ezekiel 39:21-29 having returned to this earth.

The Jews who presently don't believe that Jesus is the LORD their God will change and they will acknowledge that Jesus is the LORD their God at the time of His return.

Ezekiel 39:22 So the house of Israel shall know that I am the LORD their God from that day and forward.

 

[Douggg]

Revelation 13:7 And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations.


According to your chart, while verse 7 is in progress and being fulfilled, Jews are burning and destroying weapons at the time.

During the great tribulation, which Revelation 13:7 takes place, there will be power outages. To maintain heat and fuel for cooking, the diesel fuel used by the mechanized weapons of Gog's army will be scavenged and used for that purpose.

Also, part of the population in Israel will have fled into the mountains (Matthew 24:16) for safety from being forced to worship the beast or his image or being put to death for refusing. In the mountains will be the remains of the mechanized weapons of Gog's army that got destroyed on the mountains of Israel wilderness areas (Ezekiel 39:2-4). So the diesel fuel in those mechanized weapons will be scavenged for the same purpose of heating and cooking.

 

[Douggg]

Nope. That's a fabrication.

Davy, your misunderstanding stems from thinking that the middle of the 70th week term in Daniel 9:27 means mid-point.

What it means in that text is middle part of the 70th week. Day 1185 is in the middle part.

 

[Davy]

Davy, your misunderstanding stems from thinking that the middle of the 70th week term in Daniel 9:27 means mid-point.

What it means in that text is middle part of the 70th week. Day 1185 is in the middle part.

Nah... I don't have problems speaking the English language like you do. That Daniel 9:27 verse is pointing to the mathematical MIDDLE of the 7 years ("one week"), and that means TWO 1260 day halves.

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

Compare Ezekiel 39:17-20 with Revelation 19:17-18. They are both the same event to take place at Jesus's return.

Jesus Himself is speaking in the text of Ezekiel 39:21-29 having returned to this earth.

The Jews who presently don't believe that Jesus is the LORD their God will change and they will acknowledge that Jesus is the LORD their God at the time of His return.

You are blatantly contradicting what Paul said will happen to unbelievers when Jesus returns in 2 Thessalonians 1:7-9. He said that Jesus will take vengeance on them. They will not get an opportunity to repent and put their faith in Him as you are falsely claiming. It will be too late at that point. You are promoting a doctrine of demons here while encouraging Jews to just wait until they see Jesus return to repent and believe even though scripture says NOW is the time and TODAY is the day of salvation (2 Cor 6:2).

2 Thessalonians 1:7 And to you who are troubled rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels,
8 In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ: 9 Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power; 10 When he shall come to be glorified in his saints, and to be admired in all them that believe (because our testimony among you was believed) in that day.

Scripture says that Jesus will take vengeance on all those who don't know God and that don't obey the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ when He returns without making any exceptions. Meanwhile, false teacher Douggg says that the Jews who don't know God and who don't obey the gospel of Christ will all decide to repent and put their faith in Christ when He returns. I will go with what scripture says over what false teacher Douggg says every time. Jewish unbelievers need to repent and put their faith in Christ NOW while they have a chance. Once Jesus comes they, and all other unbelievers, will not have any more time to repent and will wail in fear because of the wrath of the Lamb that will come down on them (Revelation 1:7, Revelation 6:12-17).

 

[Douggg]

Meanwhile, false teacher Douggg says that the Jews who don't know God and who don't obey the gospel of Christ will all decide to repent and put their faith in Christ when He returns.

The Jews will turn to Jesus and the gospel of salvation at the middle of the seven years in Revelation 12:10.

Revelation 12:10 And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night.

 

[ewq1938]

The Jews will turn to Jesus and the gospel of salvation at the middle of the seven years in Revelation 12:10.

No, the Jews do not accept Jesus. They look for someone else, as you have posted many times.

 

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[Marilyn C]

This shows the month of Adar with the 15th day for Purim, (celebrations) before the New Year & the Millennium.



1,260 - Jesus Returns & 29 days of mourning.

1,290 - Temple Cleansed & 30 days of New Year for trees.

1,335 - 15th of Purim celebrations in Adar.



`Blessed is he who waits, and comes to the 1,335 days.` (Dan. 12: 12)

 

[Douggg]

You are promoting a doctrine of demons here while encouraging Jews to just wait until they see Jesus return to repent and believe even though scripture says NOW is the time and TODAY is the day of salvation (2 Cor 6:2).

No, I am not encouraging Jews nor anyone elese to just wait. Today is the day of salvation.

 

[Douggg]

No, the Jews do not accept Jesus. They look for someone else, as you have posted many times.

The Jews are currently looking for another person as their King of Israel, messiah.

For most of the first half of the 7 years, they will think the Antichrist person is their messiah. Until he commits the transgression of desolation act of 2Thessalonians2:4.

Then, they will realize that Jesus is the true messiah and turn to Jesus and the gospel of salvation.