Do you approve of U.S. President Trump meeting with Syrian leader (former Arab Muslim militant) at White House??

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Do you approve of U.S. President Trump meeting with Syrian leader ex-Muslim militant at White House?


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David in NJ

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But he's doing a bit more than that though.

He is basically indicating Syria despite all its bloodshed and instability and complicated sectarian violence should be an US "ally", that our government should fund theirs with millions, even billions, that the US might even open a new possibly permanent military base in their capital (which Israel also bombed months ago btw).




Basically what the US is now doing is rapidly turning Syria into a convenient puppet state while also ironically allowing our country also to be used by them in turn for their own twisted purposes and shady interests.

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Plus, you can check social media. Reddit/Twitter/Rumble, etc.

Because of this and other recent moves and policies, the MAGA base itself is being split and fractured over this. Some say that the MAGA movement no longer serves the ordinary American people.

How is pursuing ties with Syria, an unstable and violence-tainted state with so many proxy interests, making America "great again'? How in all the world is this putting "America First"? Please, I tried to keep an open mind, but upon deeper reflection, it does seem nonsensical and ridiculous, frankly.

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He is basically indicating Syria despite all its bloodshed and instability and complicated sectarian violence should be an US "ally", that our government should fund theirs with millions, even billions, that the US might even open a new possibly permanent military base in their capital (which Israel also bombed months ago btw).
Do you know why?

Does ANYONE here know why?
 

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Nobody claimed he was a good dude.

I just think it's more constructive to talk to your enemies than to pretend they don't exist.

But with all respect, I think at this point he's doing a bit more than that though.

He is basically indicating Syria despite all its bloodshed and instability and complicated sectarian violence should be an US "ally", that our government should fund theirs with millions, even billions, that the US might even open a new possibly permanent military base in their capital (which Israel also bombed months ago btw).





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Do you know why?

Well, does anyone? The Sunni-Shi'ite faction problems maybe? The Christians and Muslims and Druze fighting in Syria? The Kurdish problems in the Middle East? USA and Russia both trying to control the region? Who knows??


The SDF (led by our Kurdish allies) also fought the FSA and this government bitterly. Ahmad's regime wants them to immediately disband and/or turn over ALL their soldiers to the new Syrian army to strengthen himself or something. Basically putting the entire country under his non-democratic control, while the US and UK happily fund him with billions and make everyone think he's our best friend.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Syria/comments/1dhm12v
 

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Youth are easily controlled and corrupted ESPECIALLY when they are young and are systematically raped, threatened and also REWARDED.

Beat them down, break them down and then the perps become their 'father figure friends' when they start rewarding them for being compliant and lavishing them with gifts and special trips and such forth.
Yes, to all of this. It is well known with these high level perps how the mind works. What happens with a child/young person in a cycle between intense trauma and love bombing is called trauma bonding. When there is no escape or no perceived way of escape (due to threats), they learn to do what is required to survive what is being done to them.

For someone like myself who was born into this type of cycle, there are breaks in the psyche so that the parts of the mind that know the perpetrator are separated from the parts that know the adult who provides food, shelter, clothing, etc.
 

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You misunderstand. That is not what is happening. Far from it.

And no, coming to terms with your enemies, even on your own turf, is not just business. In this case, it's laying down the law: Learn to live in peace--I know where you live--comply or die.
That just makes good sense. Which will be condemned by those who are pathologically TDS. The lies they tell to satisfyingly their own hate is amazingly Satanic.
 

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Why hasn't the full Epstein file—every name, flight log, tape, and blackmail pic—been dumped unredacted from day one?

While running in 2024, Trump repeatedly promised to release the Epstein files on day one (Lex Fridman podcast, rallies, interviews—the whole “full disclosure” routine).

Then, literally weeks after taking office, he flipped and started calling the Epstein files “a hoax,” “phony stuff,” and got visibly irritated that people kept bringing them up.

Why like this?

Remember the memes with Epstein going “so why did I kill myself then?” — that was the exact moment.

Now, suddenly, the same files are real enough that Congress is voting 427–1 to force their release… and Trump’s DOJ is scrambling to block it.

Why is this happening?


What do you think “the Epstein File IS”?

A File Epstein Made?
A File the Government Made?

Are you “unaware” the Federal Government MAKES Records on Individuals; foreign, domestic, on Established Groups, Organizations, Clubs, Gangs… pretty much EVERYONE…
And really, are you “unaware”, the Files are full, of true and pseudonym “named” information suppliers, suspicions, guessing, false information, true facts and opinions?

They were called an”index” rather than a “file”.

The name “index” disappeared, in 1978, presuming the info “gathering” stopped.
It hasn’t . Multiple “titles” replaced the “Index”…

And “redacting” is “shocking to you”? Ha.



Individuals can do the SAME thing. It’s called a Diary or a Journal.
 
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Trump is rolling out the red carpet for Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman, because nothing says “restoring America’s moral leadership” like inviting the man U.S. intelligence concluded approved the killing of American citizen Jamal Khashoggi to the Oval Office for lunch and a black-tie dinner.

If Lybia's Gadaffi or Iraq's Sadam Hussein were still alive they would be invited as well.
Business is business. Right?

This government, its many elitist corporations and lobbyist groups/PACs....all the corrupt politicians and the broken two party system....ugh. Just when you allow yourself to get your hopes up a tiny bit, it ALL comes crashing down. Making America great again, America first before all others, ending ALL wars...was it all just lies in the end?

All of it is so tainted and rotten to the core. I realize now that there is little hope of positively changing things - at least not in the near future. The "swamp" it seems if it exists will remain for quite some time yet.

Woe indeed to the blind and foolish!! :(

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Direct quote from her court statement: “I was not just a rape victim — I was a prisoner in a sexual hell. I was raped three times a day… I begged them to let me go home, but they laughed and said I belonged to them now.”

That quote Straight from Elizabeth Stein's sworn testimony at Ghislaine Maxwell's sentencing in June 2022—federal court, under oath, with a judge who listened and slammed Maxwell with 20 years for trafficking girls like Stein into that "sexual hell."

The court dug into every detail you "wonder" about:
Day one? Maxwell lured her with fake job promises.

How many days? Three years

Day ONE, Stein, met and was imprisoned for 3 years by total strangers. … ?
Interesting.
Wasn’t Stein an adult… day one?

of coercion, island lock-ins, passport grabs, and daily rapes—Stein begged to leave, they laughed "you're ours now."

What did she do after? Filed a lawsuit

and testified to help convict Maxwell.

Effectively using the Justice System, and ?
Received her Justice?

The judge didn't buy the "she chose it" BS.

And WHO in the court proceeding Raised THAT (as you say) BS “she chose it” … and the Judges’ comment was TO WHO, that the Judge was not “buying “their” claim?

She called it "horrific" abuse, saying no one is above the law. That's the answer to your "And?"s—delivered with a gavel.

I’m sure it was a horrific experience. Did anyone say, it was a pleasant experience?
Did anyone say, she chose it?

These women aren't hiding; they're heroes

:rolleyes:

Court said: Victims = right.
Predators = guilty.

Why can't you?

I was neither, a defendant, prosecution, jury member, heard the trial proceedings, or opinion of the Judge…nor in the jury deliberation room, listening to one of the jurors telling their own story of abuse.

That’s Why.

Was the jury multi-nations citizens, socialites, world travelers, primarily females, or college educated…?
 

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What do you think “the Epstein File IS”?

A File Epstein Made?
A File the Government Made?

Are you “unaware” the Federal Government MAKES Records on Individuals; foreign, domestic, on Established Groups, Organizations, Clubs, Gangs… pretty much EVERYONE…
And really, are you “unaware”, the Files are full, of true and pseudonym “named” information suppliers, suspicions, guessing, false information, true facts and opinions?

They were called an”index” rather than a “file”.

The name “index” disappeared, in 1978, presuming the info “gathering” stopped.
It hasn’t . Multiple “titles” replaced the “Index”…

And “redacting” is “shocking to you”? Ha.



Individuals can do the SAME thing. It’s called a Diary or a Journal.
How do any of your questions answer these:

Why hasn't the full Epstein file—every name, flight log, tape, and blackmail pic—been dumped unredacted from day one?

While running in 2024, Trump repeatedly promised to release the Epstein files on day one (Lex Fridman podcast, rallies, interviews—the whole “full disclosure” routine).

Then, literally weeks after taking office, he flipped and started calling the Epstein files “a hoax,” “phony stuff,” and got visibly irritated that people kept bringing them up.

Why like this?

That contradiction sparked memes and public frustration, like Epstein asking, “Then why did I kill myself?” or Ghislaine Maxwell, Epstein’s partner in crime, with the meme “Then why am I in prison?”

"The Epstein Files" aren’t some dusty drawer Epstein kept—they're the U.S. government's official archive, seized by the FBI and DOJ:

- Everything from raids on his NY, Palm Beach, and island homes (2005–2006, 2019): thousands of nude minor photos, hard drives, safes, his "black book," 20,000+ pages of interrogations and emails.

- Full 2007–2008 Florida case files and 2019–2021 SDNY prosecution materials.

- Complete Lolita Express and island chopper flight logs.

- Victim Compensation Program records—names and stories of 225+ confirmed survivors.

- Emails, contracts with enablers (Maxwell, banks, lawyers).

- Phone intercepts and house camera footage.

That's over 300GB of federal evidence stored in the DOJ/FBI/SDNY vaults—not Epstein's fanfic. Congress just forced its full, unredacted dump via the Epstein Files Transparency Act (House 427-1 on Nov 18, Senate unanimous Nov 19, Trump signed quietly Nov 19—DOJ has 30 days starting now).
 

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Day ONE, Stein, met and was imprisoned for 3 years by total strangers. … ?
Interesting.
Wasn’t Stein an adult… day one?







Effectively using the Justice System, and ?
Received her Justice?



And WHO in the court proceeding Raised THAT (as you say) BS “she chose it” … and the Judges’ comment was TO WHO, that the Judge was not “buying “their” claim?



I’m sure it was a horrific experience. Did anyone say, it was a pleasant experience?
Did anyone say, she chose it?



:rolleyes:





I was neither, a defendant, prosecution, jury member, heard the trial proceedings, or opinion of the Judge…nor in the jury deliberation room, listening to one of the jurors telling their own story of abuse.

That’s Why.

Was the jury multi-nations citizens, socialites, world travelers, primarily females, or college educated…?
You're a pedophile apologist and a low-quality lying troll, dredging up the same tired victim-blaming drivel to shield monsters from accountability.

All your questions about Elizabeth Stein were answered in court.

The judge heard everything, the jury decided: crime proven, victims are right.
Ghislaine Maxwell got 20 years.
But Maxwell didn’t rape the victims herself; she only delivered them. The actual rapists are still unidentified and unpunished.

That’s why we need every single Epstein file released so the public finally sees the names of everyone who was on that island.

By the way: Trump promised during his 2024 campaign to release the Epstein files on day one.

Then, literally weeks after taking office, he started calling them “a hoax,” “phony stuff,” and got irritated every time someone mentioned them.

That flip-flop created the memes: Epstein asking “Then why did I kill myself?” and Maxwell asking “Then why am I in prison?”

Yet now: House 427–1 on Nov 18,
Senate unanimous on Nov 19,
Trump quietly signed it on Nov 19.

By signing the Transparency Act,​

Trump personally admitted he was lying when he called the files fake.​

His own pen just proved it.​

Trump is just as much a lying troll and pedophile apologist as you are.​

That’s exactly why you’re here defending him.​

Birds of a feather.​

 

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They never intended to let the truth come out.
Like I said ....pedophiles will make excuses for pedophiles. You can post all the facts and evidences and it won't change that.

Yes! They’re straight-up pedophilia apologists, shameless lying trolls with nothing sacred in them.

To them, child rape is just “she came on her own.” They spit on the survivors’ tears, on Maxwell’s 20-year sentence, on thousands of pages of court evidence.

This isn’t an “opinion”; this is deliberate defense of evil.

Jesus Himself said about those who harm children:
“Whoever causes one of these little ones who believe in me to sin, it would be better for him if a great millstone were hung around his neck and he were thrown into the sea.” (Matthew 18:6)

No debate, no mercy.
These people are soul-destroyers, moral monsters, the most repulsive filth on earth.

Their father is the devil, the father of lies and murder from the beginning.

Every single one of their vile, twisted excuses only proves Jesus was right: people like this are better off drowned without a word.
 
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Nobody claimed he was a good dude.

I just think it's more constructive to talk to your enemies than to pretend they don't exist.
It’s a question of principle.
If the United States officially welcomes the leader of a terrorist organization like ISIS onto its soil (or rehabilitates him, gives him a platform, etc.), does the U.S. government still have any moral right to criticize, say, the government of Iran or Hamas?

If that’s now acceptable, then why did you trashing the mayor of New York (Eric Adams) simply for being Muslim?

Why do Republicans lose their minds the moment a Muslim gets elected anywhere in the country?

How is this anything other than rank hypocrisy?
Just say it out loud like they did in the old days:
“He may be a son of a bitch, but he’s our son of a bitch.”
(That quote is famously attributed to Franklin D. Roosevelt about Nicaraguan dictator Anastasio Somoza.)

So either admit the double standard openly, or stop pretending there’s a consistent principle at work here.
Pick one.
 
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Trump has done some things I don't like since taking office. This isn't one of them.

Why would meeting with your enemies and talking to them be a bad thing?
Then why not do exactly the same with the leaders of Hamas?

If Donald Trump were president October 7, 2023 he should’ve invited the Hamas leadership to the White House, handed them bottles of cologne, smiled for the cameras, and pretended nothing happened.
Just like the U.S. conveniently ignores the ongoing genocide of Christians, Alawites, and Druze in Syria carried out by the terrorist Ahmed al-Sharaa (the guy you’re now treating as a legitimate partner).
Maybe if everyone had just looked the other way on October 7 the way you look the other way in Syria, Israel wouldn’t have launched its “genocide” in Gaza either.
Apparently the new rule is: talk to your enemies, give them gifts and perfume, and definitely don’t respond with force.
Because that’s obviously the way to peace, right?
 
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If you are wrong, are you willing to take the punishment of what you have accused him, like one who cries "Rape!" when there is no rape?
Trump literally promised during the 2024 campaign to release the Epstein files “on day one.”
The moment he won, he called the whole thing “fake news.”

Then Congress passed the release bill anyway, and Trump quietly signed it.
So yeah, he both defended Epstein’s crowd for decades and is neck-deep in the same circles. Facts.

A counter-question to you:
You, apologists for pedophilia, children of Satan, lying shameless trolls, living embodiments of abomination, deceit, and evil on this earth…
Are you ready to face the righteous Judgment of God?
 
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Yes! They’re straight-up pedophilia apologists, shameless lying trolls with nothing sacred in them.

This isn’t an “opinion”; this is deliberate defense of evil.

Sounds like Ukraine has a shortage of explicit sexual written, pictures, audio, video available for its men, women, children in the public at large to enjoy voyeurism, perhaps even require it in student education programs…and is begging the US President to make available, Publicly for “their” pleasure and satisfaction…EVERY PERSONS involvement.

Jesus Himself said about those who harm children:
“Whoever causes one of these little ones who believe in me to sin, it would be better for him if a great millstone were hung around his neck and he were thrown into the sea.” (Matthew 18:6)


Exactly!

No debate, no mercy.
These people are soul-destroyers, moral monsters, the most repulsive filth on earth.

Exactly…You begging for your and Every child's ears and eyes to hear and see.

Their father is the devil, the father of lies and murder from the beginning.

Perfect description befitting you.

Every single one of their vile, twisted excuses only proves Jesus was right: people like this are better off drowned without a word.

You might want to be cautious near rivers and lakes as Jesus has Heard your begging requests, for “Full Records Release.”

And This begging “comes” from a “supposed”, compassionate, concerned for “victims” traumatic experience, that even “the victims” can relive over and over…

What a little begging, demanding, foreigner Advocate you present yourself on a Christian platform.

Disgusting.
 
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Do you know why?

Does ANYONE here know why?
The United States has irreversibly squandered whatever remained of its “soft power” and moral authority.

A country that arms, funds, and provides diplomatic cover for the live-streamed extermination of tens of thousands of children in Gaza while simultaneously lecturing the rest of the planet about “human rights” and the “rules-based order” is no longer taken seriously by anyone outside a shrinking circle of vassal states and paid think-tankers.

When Washington rehabilitates the very jihadist head-choppers it once branded “terrorists” the moment they become useful against a rival (Syria today, exactly as it did in the 1980s and 2010s), the mask is fully off.

When it threatens ICC judges for daring to issue warrants against its Israeli allies, yet demands those same courts prosecute its enemies, the hypocrisy is no longer even embarrassing; it’s simply expected.

The Global South is watching, and it has reached its verdict:
America’s pronouncements on morality, democracy, or international law now elicit the same reaction in Russia, Tehran, Beijing, Pretoria, or Jakarta that Soviet claims about “proletarian internationalism” did in the late 1980s: polite silence at best, open ridicule at worst.
Soft power dies not with a bang, but with the quiet realization that nobody believes you anymore.
That realization is now complete.

Everyone already knows. Everyone!​

No one, anywhere, still harbors the slightest illusion.​

 
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