Christians who hate Israel

[Lizbeth]

I know it's okay to say God or Jesus, I prefer Yah

Who is Israel ?

Yah made a covenant with whom ?

Who broke that covenant ?

It's only ONE group of people that did !!!!

Deuteronomy 28

15 But it shall come to pass, if thou wilt not hearken unto the voice of the Lord thy God, to observe to do all his commandments and his statutes which I command thee this day; that all these curses shall come upon thee, and overtake thee:

16 Cursed shalt thou be in the city, and cursed shalt thou be in the field.

17 Cursed shall be thy basket and thy store.

18 Cursed shall be the fruit of thy body, and the fruit of thy land, the increase of thy kine, and the flocks of thy sheep.

19 Cursed shalt thou be when thou comest in, and cursed shalt thou be when thou goest out.

20 The Lord shall send upon thee cursing, vexation, and rebuke, in all that thou settest thine hand unto for to do, until thou be destroyed, and until thou perish quickly; because of the wickedness of thy doings, whereby thou hast forsaken me.

21 The Lord shall make the pestilence cleave unto thee, until he have consumed thee from off the land, whither thou goest to possess it.

22 The Lord shall smite thee with a consumption, and with a fever, and with an inflammation, and with an extreme burning, and with the sword, and with blasting, and with mildew; and they shall pursue thee until thou perish.

23 And thy heaven that is over thy head shall be brass, and the earth that is under thee shall be iron.

24 The Lord shall make the rain of thy land powder and dust: from heaven shall it come down upon thee, until thou be destroyed.

25 The Lord shall cause thee to be smitten before thine enemies: thou shalt go out one way against them, and flee seven ways before them: and shalt be removed into all the kingdoms of the earth.

26 And thy carcase shall be meat unto all fowls of the air, and unto the beasts of the earth, and no man shall fray them away.

27 The Lord will smite thee with the botch of Egypt, and with the emerods, and with the scab, and with the itch, whereof thou canst not be healed.

28 The Lord shall smite thee with madness, and blindness, and astonishment of heart:

29 And thou shalt grope at noonday, as the blind gropeth in darkness, and thou shalt not prosper in thy ways: and thou shalt be only oppressed and spoiled evermore, and no man shall save thee.

30 Thou shalt betroth a wife, and another man shall lie with her: thou shalt build an house, and thou shalt not dwell therein: thou shalt plant a vineyard, and shalt not gather the grapes thereof.

31 Thine ox shall be slain before thine eyes, and thou shalt not eat thereof: thine ass shall be violently taken away from before thy face, and shall not be restored to thee: thy sheep shall be given unto thine enemies, and thou shalt have none to rescue them.

32 Thy sons and thy daughters shall be given unto another people, and thine eyes shall look, and fail with longing for them all the day long; and there shall be no might in thine hand.

33 The fruit of thy land, and all thy labours, shall a nation which thou knowest not eat up; and thou shalt be only oppressed and crushed alway:

34 So that thou shalt be mad for the sight of thine eyes which thou shalt see.

35 The Lord shall smite thee in the knees, and in the legs, with a sore botch that cannot be healed, from the sole of thy foot unto the top of thy head.

36 The Lord shall bring thee, and thy king which thou shalt set over thee, unto a nation which neither thou nor thy fathers have known; and there shalt thou serve other gods, wood and stone.

37 And thou shalt become an astonishment, a proverb, and a byword, among all nations whither the Lord shall lead thee.

38 Thou shalt carry much seed out into the field, and shalt gather but little in; for the locust shall consume it.

39 Thou shalt plant vineyards, and dress them, but shalt neither drink of the wine, nor gather the grapes; for the worms shall eat them.

40 Thou shalt have olive trees throughout all thy coasts, but thou shalt not anoint thyself with the oil; for thine olive shall cast his fruit.

41 Thou shalt beget sons and daughters, but thou shalt not enjoy them; for they shall go into captivity.

42 All thy trees and fruit of thy land shall the locust consume.

43 The stranger that is within thee shall get up above thee very high; and thou shalt come down very low.

44 He shall lend to thee, and thou shalt not lend to him: he shall be the head, and thou shalt be the tail.

45 Moreover all these curses shall come upon thee, and shall pursue thee, and overtake thee, till thou be destroyed; because thou hearkenedst not unto the voice of the Lord thy God, to keep his commandments and his statutes which he commanded thee:

46 And they shall be upon thee for a sign and for a wonder, and upon thy seed for ever.

47 Because thou servedst not the Lord thy God with joyfulness, and with gladness of heart, for the abundance of all things;

48 Therefore shalt thou serve thine enemies which the Lord shall send against thee, in hunger, and in thirst, and in nakedness, and in want of all things: and he shall put a yoke of iron upon thy neck, until he have destroyed thee.

49 The Lord shall bring a nation against thee from far, from the end of the earth, as swift as the eagle flieth; a nation whose tongue thou shalt not understand;

50 A nation of fierce countenance, which shall not regard the person of the old, nor shew favour to the young:

You will know them by the curses... Who

People in that nation state are fakes , they left Black and came back white..

God always has a remnant. There have always been many very righteous and faithful saints among them, who we may be privileged to meet in heaven one day.

And it isn't for us to judge and curse them, that is for God to decide...we are not qualified. I highly doubt that any "Gentile" nation in their shoes would have done any better because the fallen nature and flesh of man is the same the world over. Only a remnant from the Gentiles get saved too. So it behooves us to heed Paul's warning in Romans, not to be arrogant against the Jews.

 

[David in NJ]

@Lizbeth and @amigo de christo = Thank You for your responses today and the Holy Spirit used your words to shine more light on Scripture,
which in turn Shines Light in us.

When did the first 'grooming' take place??? = Genesis chapter 3

Now the serpenta was more crafty than any beast of the field that the LORD God had made. And he said to the woman, “Did God really say, ‘You must not eat from any tree in the garden?’”

2The woman answered the serpent, “We may eat the fruit of the trees of the garden, 3but about the fruit of the tree in the middle of the garden, God has said, ‘You must not eat of it or touch it, or you will die.’”

4“You will not surely die,” the serpent told the woman. 5“For God knows that in the day you eat of it, your eyes will be opened and you will be like God, knowing good and evil.”

6When the woman saw that the tree was good for food and pleasing to the eyes, and that it was desirable for obtaining wisdom, she took the fruit and ate it.

Now, allow more LIGHT to shine into our hearts lest we think this was a 'one-time-event'.

i can add more scripture here but i delight when our fellowship in the Holy Spirit speaks thru each one of us Collectively on any
given subject.

Where in the scripture is the temptation of Eve repeated for us as a warning???

Clue - NT Apostle writing

SHALOM

 

[amigo de christo]

@Lizbeth and @amigo de christo = Thank You for your responses today and the Holy Spirit used your words to shine more light on Scripture,
which in turn Shines Light in us.

When did the first 'grooming' take place???

In the garden . by a very subtile serpent .
Who said DID GOD REALLY SAY .........................
Oh no lil girlly ye shall not die ...................................

 

[amigo de christo]

@Lizbeth and @amigo de christo = Thank You for your responses today and the Holy Spirit used your words to shine more light on Scripture,
which in turn Shines Light in us.

When did the first 'grooming' take place???

Go b ack to a time before the great flood came upon The world in noahs days .
Go b ack to a time when man and woman were in the garden .
They were not alone . Therein dwelt the serpent
And one day he spied the little girl as she was alone
And began TO GROOM he surely did . Oh no little girl , ye shall not die , ye shall become as gods to know good and evil ...
A groomer knows how to lie and how to seduce
how to use partial truths in order to cause one to beleive a lie . Grooming began long , long ago .

 

[amigo de christo]

Good Morning
Some say that Adam was with Eve, i am not one that holds to that theory.

Example: On the surface of Scripture, it seems as though JESUS and the Apostles initially spoke of an 'imminent Return of the Lord'.
Yet upon FULL study we SEE Jesus saying, "HE is going far far away and then when He returns" - likewise Jesus said that the Gospel will be preached in all the world and then the End will come = also the OT Prophets and elsewhere gives the FULL understanding.

notice two things .
The serpent beguiled eve . It didnt say eve and Adam .
However adam did take the fruit of her hand and did eat .
Notice eve says THE SERPENT beguiled me and i did eat
WHO does adam try and blame , THIS woman , SHE gave
I would say it is quite clear that ADAM was NOT WITH EVE while EVE WAS BEING BEGUILED
Serpent knew what it was doing .
Ever remember JESUS saying HE who loves mother, father , WIFE or etc more than me is NOT WORTHY OF ME .
Adams failure was he chose eve , to hearken to her OVER GOD .
The serpent is very wise indeed .
This is why its been all over christendom breaking down the order of things .
Women lead this people and children do too . As they cry and shout the victory song of EMPOWERMENT .
Not gonna end well for this generation my friend .
IT has become as SODOM , It has become as the days of NOAH
and CHRISTENDOM has become as DID REBELLIOUS ISRAEL , right before GOD crushed them flat .
I mean IDENTICAL david . if people would only read their bible my friend . VERY CLEAR are the signs of the times .

 

[David in NJ]

notice two things .
The serpent beguiled eve . It didnt say eve and Adam .
However adam did take the fruit of her hand and did eat .
Notice eve says THE SERPENT beguiled me and i did eat
WHO does adam try and blame , THIS woman , SHE gave
I would say it is quite clear that ADAM was NOT WITH EVE while EVE WAS BEING BEGUILED
Serpent knew what it was doing .
Ever remember JESUS saying HE who loves mother, father , WIFE or etc more than me is NOT WORTHY OF ME .
Adams failure was he chose eve , to hearken to her OVER GOD .
The serpent is very wise indeed .
This is why its been all over christendom breaking down the order of things .
Women lead this people and children do too . As they cry and shout the victory song of EMPOWERMENT .
Not gonna end well for this generation my friend .
IT has become as SODOM , It has become as the days of NOAH
and CHRISTENDOM has become as DID REBELLIOUS ISRAEL , right before GOD crushed them flat .
I mean IDENTICAL david . if people would only read their bible my friend . VERY CLEAR are the signs of the times .

THANK YOU x100

This ministered to me, just as i prayed that we would allow the Freedom of the Holy Spirit to Speak thru us to Collectively

 

[David in NJ]

notice two things .
The serpent beguiled eve . It didnt say eve and Adam .
However adam did take the fruit of her hand and did eat .
Notice eve says THE SERPENT beguiled me and i did eat
WHO does adam try and blame , THIS woman , SHE gave
I would say it is quite clear that ADAM was NOT WITH EVE while EVE WAS BEING BEGUILED
Serpent knew what it was doing .
Ever remember JESUS saying HE who loves mother, father , WIFE or etc more than me is NOT WORTHY OF ME .
Adams failure was he chose eve , to hearken to her OVER GOD .
The serpent is very wise indeed .
This is why its been all over christendom breaking down the order of things .
Women lead this people and children do too . As they cry and shout the victory song of EMPOWERMENT .
Not gonna end well for this generation my friend .
IT has become as SODOM , It has become as the days of NOAH
and CHRISTENDOM has become as DID REBELLIOUS ISRAEL , right before GOD crushed them flat .
I mean IDENTICAL david . if people would only read their bible my friend . VERY CLEAR are the signs of the times .

The viscous cycle of satan's manipulation will not stop until the "BRIGHTNESS of His Coming"
Dwell on that for that is a PAST, PRESENT and FUTURE Promise of GOD = "Did not the prophets say: "the WORD of the LORD came to me"

Was not Noah and family Delivered from God's Wrath by the BRIGHTNESS of the WORD that came to Noah = Hebrews 11:7

By faith Noah, being warned by God concerning events as yet unseen, in reverent fear constructed an ark for the saving of his household. By this he condemned the world and became an heir of the righteousness that comes by faith.

 

[amigo de christo]

THANK YOU x100

This ministered to me, just as i prayed that we would allow the Freedom of the Holy Spirit to Speak thru us to Collectively

Notice both paul and peter sure knew that as well .

 

[amigo de christo]

The viscous cycle of satan's manipulation will not stop until the "BRIGHTNESS of His Coming"
Dwell on that for that is a PAST, PRESENT and FUTURE Promise of GOD = "Did not the prophets say: "the WORD of the LORD came to me"

Was not Noah and family Delivered from God's Wrath by the BRIGHTNESS of the WORD that came to Noah = Hebrews 11:7

By faith Noah, being warned by God concerning events as yet unseen, in reverent fear constructed an ark for the saving of his household. By this he condemned the world and became an heir of the righteousness that comes by faith.

The viscious cyle of satans manipulation will not stop until indeed the brightness of the coming of KING JESUS .
There is a way out of the darkness , the way out of death , of the power of satan before its too late .
ONLY MORE NO LONGER preach THIS MESSAGE .
The one JESUS had given to all the apostels
The one that JESUS had even told to paul who later told it to king aggripa .
TO deliver them from the power of darkness and of satan
ONLY the HARLOT has removed this my friend . BUT THEN THE HARLOT IS IN DARKNESS
and knows it not , nor do her children know . They see only another light ,
though it be NOT LIGHT .
But no marvel for we were warned , IF the light that is in thee be darkness , THEN GREAT is that DARKNESS .
Many been putting DARKNESS for LIGHT
but have no idea at all they do so . Again no marvel , for e ven satan can appear as an angel of light
SO too can his unholy ministirs appear cloaked even IN WOOL . oh yes i said EVEN IN WOOL . For there are many now .

 

[amigo de christo]

The viscous cycle of satan's manipulation will not stop until the "BRIGHTNESS of His Coming"
Dwell on that for that is a PAST, PRESENT and FUTURE Promise of GOD = "Did not the prophets say: "the WORD of the LORD came to me"

Was not Noah and family Delivered from God's Wrath by the BRIGHTNESS of the WORD that came to Noah = Hebrews 11:7

By faith Noah, being warned by God concerning events as yet unseen, in reverent fear constructed an ark for the saving of his household. By this he condemned the world and became an heir of the righteousness that comes by faith.

And now does the serpent work through all his false religoins
and within much of even christendom to once again GROOM them all to be as one .
And once again HE do LIE .
And once again HE does use a truth to do so .
For he says SURELY YE SHALL NOT PERISH if ye BELEIVE NOT IN CHRIST , A LIE OF COURSE , FOR GOD IS LOVE , a truth
twisted to suport the idea YE shall not perish .
HE be slick david . HE is the father of the ecumeincal interfaith broad path to what they beleive will lead them to peace n safety .
His HARLOT has indeed poured her cup of fornication upon this world and sadly even a lot
of those who appear in wool are drinking from that very cup . But what will they do IN THE DAY OF THE LORD .
They will surely wail david . SO we gots work to do , exposing a HARLOT and her drink of fornication
and all who help her pour it unto this people . LIGHT exposes darkness
IT DARN sure dont compromise and find common ground with d arkness . SOMETHING a lot of christendom seems to not know .

 

[David in NJ]

The viscious cyle of satans manipulation will not stop until indeed the brightness of the coming of KING JESUS .
There is a way out of the darkness , the way out of death , of the power of satan before its too late .
ONLY MORE NO LONGER preach THIS MESSAGE .
The one JESUS had given to all the apostels
The one that JESUS had even told to paul who later told it to king aggripa .
TO deliver them from the power of darkness and of satan
ONLY the HARLOT has removed this my friend . BUT THEN THE HARLOT IS IN DARKNESS
and knows it not , nor do her children know . They see only another light ,
though it be NOT LIGHT .
But no marvel for we were warned , IF the light that is in thee be darkness , THEN GREAT is that DARKNESS .
Many been putting DARKNESS for LIGHT
but have no idea at all they do so . Again no marvel , for e ven satan can appear as an angel of light
SO too can his unholy ministirs appear cloaked even IN WOOL . oh yes i said EVEN IN WOOL . For there are many now .

There was a man sent from God, whose name was John.
This man came for a witness, to bear witness of the Light, that all through him might believe.
He was not that Light, but was sent to bear witness of that Light.
That/the WORD was the true Light which gives light to every man coming into the world.

Only JESUS is the LIGHT of the world unto Salvation

 

[amigo de christo]

The LIGHT does not make it bed with the DARKNESS .
It makes no deals with darkness
it finds no common ground with darkness
IT exposes darkness . But this is why MANY HATE THE TRUE LIGHT
and will not COME lest their deeds be REPROVED . And folks think men cannot preach another image of Jesus and of GOD .
OH THEY DO and THEY CAN and many seem to love this other image of what they so BELEIVE is GOD .
TRUTH .
How a man treats the T RUTH will show whether or not HE IS OF THE TRUTH
or simply has deciev ed himself .
AND the last time i checked , EVERY WORD OF GOD IS TRUTH .
SO how are we treating Such words . I just bet many are twisting and omitting things .
Not realizing that when they do so , THEY CALLING THE GOD who inspired such words , A LIAR , or a hater
or a judgemental monster . FOLKS , its wake up t ime . Thus it be bible time was well .

 

[David in NJ]

And now does the serpent work through all his false religoins
and within much of even christendom to once again GROOM them all to be as one .
And once again HE do LIE .
And once again HE does use a truth to do so .
For he says SURELY YE SHALL NOT PERISH if ye BELEIVE NOT IN CHRIST , A LIE OF COURSE , FOR GOD IS LOVE , a truth
twisted to suport the idea YE shall not perish .
HE be slick david . HE is the father of the ecumeincal interfaith broad path to what they beleive will lead them to peace n safety .
His HARLOT has indeed poured her cup of fornication upon this world and sadly even a lot
of those who appear in wool are drinking from that very cup . But what will they do IN THE DAY OF THE LORD .
They will surely wail david . SO we gots work to do , exposing a HARLOT and her drink of fornication
and all who help her pour it unto this people . LIGHT exposes darkness
IT DARN sure dont compromise and find common ground with d arkness . SOMETHING a lot of christendom seems to not know .

AGREE

Satan/He/male designation went to the woman to get to Adam.

Epstein had his woman = Giselle Maxwell to gather in those young women who would be abused for other satanic minded men.

Satan has his Harlot = RCC who gathers in the masses = even Billy Graham accepted awards from RCC and cuddled up with her.

 

[amigo de christo]

There was a man sent from God, whose name was John.
This man came for a witness, to bear witness of the Light, that all through him might believe.
He was not that Light, but was sent to bear witness of that Light.
That/the WORD was the true Light which gives light to every man coming into the world.

Only JESUS is the LIGHT of the world unto Salvation

LEt it be said and read again . THAT ONL Y JESUS IS THE LIGHT of the world unto SALVATION .
But reader and all , let us beware .
The serpent has come cloaked in wool and has many co workers in wool .
He will preach always another jesus , another g ospel , and the motto of his lips is TO THINE OWN SELF be true .
He has done much evil my friend . Look at what he did to the rainbow
And look at how well he has cloaked himself up that even MANY within christendom
walk in The light , which be the darkness of , satan . NOT THE LIGHT OF GOD . This is occuring faster too my friend .
And their hate towards GOD CHRIST HIS WORDS is increasing
as their love for this other image of what they THINK be GOD and HIS LOVE , so fills them up with rebellion TOWARD
the GOD , HIS CHRIST , HIS WORDS and his saints . WAR has been delcared .
Only they dont realize they declaring war against GOD , CHRIST , the saints . On their path
many sheep will bleed , as sheep have bled in all generations . But this will be very GREAT
and a time of much betrayal and much blood against the saints .
But unto he or she who endures to the end the same shall be saved . Let no man drink
of a harlots cup for that end is the second death . For if those of the green tree can be killed and persecuted of men
HOW MUCH WORSE a punishment upon those of the dry t ree who did nothing but lead this people and themselves
into upmost rebellion TO the ONLY GOD and HIS CHRIST that could have saved them .

 

[David in NJ]

notice two things .
The serpent beguiled eve . It didnt say eve and Adam .
However adam did take the fruit of her hand and did eat .
Notice eve says THE SERPENT beguiled me and i did eat
WHO does adam try and blame , THIS woman , SHE gave
I would say it is quite clear that ADAM was NOT WITH EVE while EVE WAS BEING BEGUILED
Serpent knew what it was doing .
Ever remember JESUS saying HE who loves mother, father , WIFE or etc more than me is NOT WORTHY OF ME .
Adams failure was he chose eve , to hearken to her OVER GOD .
The serpent is very wise indeed .
This is why its been all over christendom breaking down the order of things .
Women lead this people and children do too . As they cry and shout the victory song of EMPOWERMENT .
Not gonna end well for this generation my friend .
IT has become as SODOM , It has become as the days of NOAH
and CHRISTENDOM has become as DID REBELLIOUS ISRAEL , right before GOD crushed them flat .
I mean IDENTICAL david . if people would only read their bible my friend . VERY CLEAR are the signs of the times .

INDEED Satan knows the way of bondage and destruction for mankind = Isaiah 3:12

As for My people, children are their oppressors, and women rule over them.
O My people! Those who lead you cause you to err, And destroy the way of your paths.

Satan hisses- shhh - keep this buried and never speak Isaiah 3:12 in the churches..................

 

[amigo de christo]

AGREE

Satan/He/male designation went to the woman to get to Adam.

Epstein had his woman = Giselle Maxwell to gather in those young women who would be abused for other satanic minded men.

Satan has his Harlot = RCC who gathers in the masses = even Billy Graham accepted awards from RCC and cuddled up with her.

Yes many men have indeed fallen prey her snare .
And how much the worse has it all been getting as of late .
JESUS has the sheep , forward march straight ahead , fearing not man or what he can do .
LET GOD BE TRUE but every man a liar that thou mightest be JUSTIFIED in your sayings and overcome when thou art judged .
To the trenches one and all . Man the walls and sound the TRUMPET .
THE TROGAN HORSE has come to destroy all from within and to lead this world
to the day of its own destruction , though they think it will be peace n safety .

 

[amigo de christo]

INDEED Satan knows the way of bondage and destruction for mankind = Isaiah 3:12

As for My people, children are their oppressors, and women rule over them.
O My people! Those who lead you cause you to err, And destroy the way of your paths.

Satan hisses- shhh - keep this buried and never speak Isaiah 3:12 in the churches..................

The hisses can be heard indeed my friend .
As it lips out its ecumeincal plan and says COME YE and let us be one peoples
and serve the god of humanity . Merge it says and find common ground with all the tribes
for we are all children of god it says . we all serve him differently it says .
And let us have one cup and by this cup of love we shall attain PEACE N SAFETY .
but little do the children of darkness know , that behind the curtains
behind the very words PEACE N SAFETY , LIES SUDDEN DESTRUCTION and that shall be their peace
ON THE DAY OF THE LORD GOD ALL MIGHTY and OF THE LAMB upon whom their love DENIED .
A harlots love , IS NO LOVE . it is but death .

 

[Lizbeth]

Good Morning,

Agree = it works both ways as women have a special God-Given ability to persuade the man = either for GOOD or for Bad

Satan recognized this and went after Eve so that thru her persuasion, she took down Adam - her husband.

Because of sin, Adam and men have oppressed women in horrific ways.
Likewise, women are also enticing and enslaving men thru the sin of lust.

The Pinnacle of Sin in a Man and Woman is Ahab and Jezebel and the Finality of this SIN is the Harlot riding the Beast

Think on how many are under the Spell of the Woman, who is the Roman Catholic Church

GOD has concluded ALL under sin = Man/Woman as well as the Jew/Gentile who collectively are in Desperate NEED of Salvation.

SHALOM and forgive my lateness in responding

I think I understand what you have been trying to say now. ( Just recovering from a virus that I've had for nearly two weeks, so maybe that has been clouding my thinking, that combined with aging, lol.). Agree that iniquity can begin expressing itself very early on.......although I'm not sure how much is iniquity and how much is just natural. Little girl trying to practice her charms on her Daddy or any male doesn't mean she is doing it consciously and knowingly, and nor is it an invitation to anything but acceptance and approval. Just like a little boy rough-housing trying to wrestle and topple his father down to the ground is not an act of war and invitation to fight to the death. They are both instinctively and innocently rehearsing for adult life to come and testing their mettle, and I think most grown ups instinctively realize that.

 

[Lizbeth]

Good Morning
Some say that Adam was with Eve, i am not one that holds to that theory.

Example: On the surface of Scripture, it seems as though JESUS and the Apostles initially spoke of an 'imminent Return of the Lord'.
Yet upon FULL study we SEE Jesus saying, "HE is going far far away and then when He returns" - likewise Jesus said that the Gospel will be preached in all the world and then the End will come = also the OT Prophets and elsewhere gives the FULL understanding.

Gen 3:6

And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make one wise, she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, and gave also unto her husband with her; and he did eat.

Just mentioned it because I have wondered about it. Although I don’t know what we are to infer by that, if anything.

Well just to say, myself I think Jesus did return in wrath, so to speak, to execute judgment upon Israel in 70AD...it was the end for Israel and the old covenant. And the gospel had gone out to the inhabited world by then. But there seems to be a principle of everything is to the Jew first then to the Gentile, as Israel is our ensample........the world (Gentiles) is waiting to be judged as well.

 

[TLHKAJ]

Gen 3:6

And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make one wise, she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, and gave also unto her husband with her; and he did eat.

Just mentioned it because I have wondered about it. Although I don’t know what we are to infer by that, if anything.

Well just to say, myself I think Jesus did return in wrath, so to speak, to execute judgment upon Israel in 70AD...it was the end for Israel and the old covenant. And the gospel had gone out to the inhabited world by then. But there seems to be a principle of everything is to the Jew first then to the Gentile, as Israel is our ensample........the world (Gentiles) is waiting to be judged as well.

Scripture is very plain and clear that Adam was with her. In the NT, scripture attributes the fall of all of humanity to Adam because he willfully sinned, whereas Eve was deceived. How was she deceived? Adam was told directly by God not to EAT of the tree of knowledge of good and evil lest he die ....but he added to God's words when he told Eve not to even TOUCH the fruit of the tree lest she die. So the serpent, being cunning and knowing that Eve was not given the accurate Word from God, used that to deceive her. So when Eve TOUCHED the fruit and she didn't die, she began to doubt... and she ate. Adam was with her, just as scripture plainly states ....and he chose not to correct her before she ate, and stood by and watched her eat the fruit ...then took the fruit from Eve and that's where the fall happened. Notice that their eyes weren't opened until Adam willfully took of the fruit. Hmmmm.... interesting! I believe the fall would not have come had Adam not taken it. He could have gone to God and God would've had an answer, some grace. It would've been a lesson not to add to or take away from God's Word.

I'm gonna post this but I'll come back later ... running errands.