Christians who hate Israel

[David in NJ]

I think I understand what you have been trying to say now. ( Just recovering from a virus that I've had for nearly two weeks, so maybe that has been clouding my thinking, that combined with aging, lol.). Agree that iniquity can begin expressing itself very early on.......although I'm not sure how much is iniquity and how much is just natural. Little girl trying to practice her charms on her Daddy or any male doesn't mean she is doing it consciously and knowingly, and nor is it an invitation to anything but acceptance and approval. Just like a little boy rough-housing trying to wrestle and topple his father down to the ground is not an act of war and invitation to fight to the death. They are both instinctively and innocently rehearsing for adult life to come and testing their mettle, and I think most grown ups instinctively realize that.

Agree and thank you for allowing time for us to process each others responses.

This is internet chat and the important in person communication whereby we can speak and cover more ground is lacking here.

Things to consider from the Word of Life
Job 5:6-7
For affliction does not come from the dust,
Nor does trouble spring from the ground;
Yet man is born to trouble/sin
As the sparks fly upward.

Jeremiah 17:9
“The heart is deceitful above all things,
And desperately wicked;
Who can know it?
I, the Lord, search the heart,
I test the mind,
Even to give every man according to his ways,
According to the fruit of his doings.

The Scriptures teach that all of mankind is incapable of salvation apart from God's Mercy = even with 'good' people


Matthew 19:16-26
Now behold, one came and said to Him, “Good Teacher, what good thing shall I do that I may have eternal life?”
So He said to him, “Why do you call Me good? No one is good but One, that is, God.

But if you want to enter into life, keep the commandments.”
He said to Him, “Which ones?”

Jesus said, “‘You shall not murder,’ ‘You shall not commit adultery,’ ‘You shall not steal,’ ‘You shall not bear false witness,’
‘Honor your father and your mother,’ and, ‘You shall love your neighbor as yourself.’ ”
The young man said to Him, “All these things I have kept from my youth. What do I still lack?”
Jesus said to him, “If you want to be perfect, go, sell what you have and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven; and come, follow Me.”
But when the young man heard that saying, he went away sorrowful, for he had great possessions.
Then Jesus said to His disciples, “Assuredly, I say to you that it is hard for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven.
And again I say to you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God.”

When His disciples heard it, they were greatly astonished, saying, “Who then can be saved?”

But Jesus looked at them and said to them, “With men this is impossible, but with God all things are possible.”

 

[David in NJ]

@TLHKAJ and @Lizbeth

i would like to examine the notion that Adam was standing next to Eve when she ate the fruit in the LIGHT of Scripture

I desire therefore that the men pray everywhere, lifting up holy hands, without wrath and doubting; in like manner also, that the women adorn themselves in modest apparel, with propriety and moderation, not with braided hair or gold or pearls or costly clothing, but, which is proper for women professing godliness, with good works.
Let a woman learn in silence with all submission.
And I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man, but to be in silence.
For Adam was formed first, then Eve.
And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived, fell into transgression.
Nevertheless she will be saved in childbearing if they continue in faith, love, and holiness, with self-control.

Dwell on "Adam was not deceived" = this forces us to dwell deeper as to the timing of the events

Thank You @TLHKAJ and @Lizbeth for you both are a encouragement to me

 

[TLHKAJ]

Dwell on "Adam was not deceived" = this forces us to dwell deeper as to the timing of the events

He wasn't deceived because he knew what God said. He took the fruit knowing that he was disobeying God. He knew God said not to EAT the fruit. To me, it's clear being that scripture says "with her." There's no other way to interpret that. lol

 

[David in NJ]

He wasn't deceived because he knew what God said. He took the fruit knowing that he was disobeying God. He knew God said not to EAT the fruit. To me, it's clear being that scripture says "with her." There's no other way to interpret that. lol

When Paul wrote "Adam was not deceived" he is pointing directly at Eve

AGREE = There is no other way to interpret that!!!

Both GOD and the HOLY SPIRIT spoke this "the woman being deceived, fell into transgression"

There is no other way to interpret that.

More from the Holy Spirit = Who, by the Way, was fully aware when this took place = 2 Corinthians 11:1-4

Oh, that you would bear with me in a little folly—and indeed you do bear with me. For I am jealous for you with godly jealousy.
For I have betrothed you to one husband, that I may present you as a chaste virgin to Christ.
But I fear, lest somehow, as the serpent deceived Eve by his craftiness, so your minds may be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ.
For if he who comes preaches another Jesus whom we have not preached, or if you receive a different spirit which you have not received, or a different gospel which you have not accepted—you may well put up with it!

Now, as a woman, you are in a place similiar to Genesis chapter 3 = will you believe what God has said or will you find a way to pass the blame unto Adam by suggesting he was standing next to Eve when satan deceived her???

Dwell on what God has SAID is TRUTH and SEE how God Responded in Judgment

And they heard the sound of the Lord God walking in the garden in the cool of the day, and Adam and his wife hid themselves from the presence of the Lord God among the trees of the garden.

9Then the Lord God called to Adam and said to him, “Where are you?”

10So he said, “I heard Your voice in the garden, and I was afraid because I was naked; and I hid myself.”

11And He said, “Who told you that you were naked? Have you eaten from the tree of which I commanded you that you should not eat?”

12Then the man said, “The woman whom You gave to be with me, she gave me of the tree, and I ate.”

13And the Lord God said to the woman, “What is this you have done?”

The woman said, “The serpent deceived me, and I ate.”

14So the Lord God said to the serpent:

“Because you have done this,
You are cursed more than all cattle,
And more than every beast of the field;
On your belly you shall go,
And you shall eat dust
All the days of your life.
15And I will put enmity
Between you and the woman,
And between your seed and her Seed;
He shall bruise your head,
And you shall bruise His heel.”

16To the woman He said:
“I will greatly multiply your sorrow and your conception;
In pain you shall bring forth children;
Your desire shall be for your husband,
And he shall rule over you.”

17Then to Adam He said, “Because you have heeded the voice of your wife, and have eaten from the tree of which I commanded you, saying, ‘You shall not eat of it’:

“Cursed is the ground for your sake;
In toil you shall eat of it
All the days of your life.
18Both thorns and thistles it shall bring forth for you,
And you shall eat the herb of the field.
19In the sweat of your face you shall eat bread
Till you return to the ground,
For out of it you were taken;
For dust you are,
And to dust you shall return.”

 

[amigo de christo]

I think I understand what you have been trying to say now. ( Just recovering from a virus that I've had for nearly two weeks, so maybe that has been clouding my thinking, that combined with aging, lol.). Agree that iniquity can begin expressing itself very early on.......although I'm not sure how much is iniquity and how much is just natural. Little girl trying to practice her charms on her Daddy or any male doesn't mean she is doing it consciously and knowingly, and nor is it an invitation to anything but acceptance and approval. Just like a little boy rough-housing trying to wrestle and topple his father down to the ground is not an act of war and invitation to fight to the death. They are both instinctively and innocently rehearsing for adult life to come and testing their mettle, and I think most grown ups instinctively realize that.

while it is true that often the act of children is done in ignorance
Still , as you do agree , it must be corrected .
A womans beauty should not have been noticed by her charms
nor her outward beauty persay ,
but by what is on the inside . And by that i mean ALSO WHO is on the inside .
Beauty is fleeting
And appears but for a time
Manipulation appears powerful and can indeed draw one to being honored and desired .
But in the end it was all vain .
If my daughter had put her charms upon me , my daughter had been , or should have been , corrected .
WE dont use what God gave us to charm or to manipulate
but rather TO ONLY POINT TO HE , TO GOD , and not to us .
Just a reminder for us all my dear sister .

 

[amigo de christo]

When Paul wrote "Adam was not deceived" he is pointing directly at Eve

AGREE = There is no other way to interpret that!!!

Both GOD and the HOLY SPIRIT spoke this "the woman being deceived, fell into transgression"

There is no other way to interpret that.

More from the Holy Spirit = Who, by the Way, was fully aware when this took place.

Oh, that you would bear with me in a little folly—and indeed you do bear with me. For I am jealous for you with godly jealousy.
For I have betrothed you to one husband, that I may present you as a chaste virgin to Christ.
But I fear, lest somehow, as the serpent deceived Eve by his craftiness, so your minds may be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ.
For if he who comes preaches another Jesus whom we have not preached, or if you receive a different spirit which you have not received, or a different gospel which you have not accepted—you may well put up with it!

Now, as a woman, you are in a place similiar to Genesis chapter 3 = will you believe what God has said or will you find a way to pass the blame unto Adam by suggesting he was standing next to Eve when satan deceived her???

Dwell on what God has SAID is TRUTH and SEE how God Responded in Judgment

And they heard the sound of the Lord God walking in the garden in the cool of the day, and Adam and his wife hid themselves from the presence of the Lord God among the trees of the garden.

9Then the Lord God called to Adam and said to him, “Where are you?”

10So he said, “I heard Your voice in the garden, and I was afraid because I was naked; and I hid myself.”

11And He said, “Who told you that you were naked? Have you eaten from the tree of which I commanded you that you should not eat?”

12Then the man said, “The woman whom You gave to be with me, she gave me of the tree, and I ate.”

13And the Lord God said to the woman, “What is this you have done?”

The woman said, “The serpent deceived me, and I ate.”

14So the Lord God said to the serpent:

“Because you have done this,
You are cursed more than all cattle,
And more than every beast of the field;
On your belly you shall go,
And you shall eat dust
All the days of your life.
15And I will put enmity
Between you and the woman,
And between your seed and her Seed;
He shall bruise your head,
And you shall bruise His heel.”
16To the woman He said:

“I will greatly multiply your sorrow and your conception;
In pain you shall bring forth children;
Your desire shall be for your husband,
And he shall rule over you.”
17Then to Adam He said, “Because you have heeded the voice of your wife, and have eaten from the tree of which I commanded you, saying, ‘You shall not eat of it’:

“Cursed is the ground for your sake;
In toil you shall eat of it
All the days of your life.
18Both thorns and thistles it shall bring forth for you,
And you shall eat the herb of the field.
19In the sweat of your face you shall eat bread
Till you return to the ground,
For out of it you were taken;
For dust you are,
And to dust you shall return.”

11And He said, “Who told you that you were naked? Have you eaten from the tree of which I commanded you that you should not eat?”

12Then the man said, “The woman whom You gave to be with me, she gave me of the tree, and I ate.”

13And the Lord God said to the woman, “What is this you have done?”

The woman said, “The serpent deceived me, and I ate.”

And that is exactly HOW it went down . The serpent BEGUILED the woman
and the man chose his wife over GOD and hearkened unto her and ate of her hand the very fruit
HE KNEW he was not supposed to eat .
Weaker vessel and man chose his wife over GOD .
Any guesses as to WHY the peoples ought to HEED GOD , HIS WORDS
and not rather the twister of said words . CAUSE IT AINT GONNA BODE WELL at all
who choose the twister over GOD . oh i must say IT WONT BODE WELL AT ALL .
NEVER HAS . I challenge anyone to show me where DENYING G OD , HIS WORDS
and choosing to beleive a lie , a twister of scrips , HAS EVER ONCE WORKED TO THE GOOD OF any who did .
NO SIR .
DEATH . and the second death awaits all WHO NOW TWIST HIS WORDS and REJECT HIM .
I do not pander to the emotional cues of this love generation
FOR THEY HAVE PANDERED to the wrong god and its love .
I expose and shall do so at the cost of my own life . ITS JESUS for the sheep . EVERY WORD of GOD is T RUTH
and is our meat . THEY can keep all the pretzel twisted doctrines for and to themselves .
TRUTH is our meat .

 

[David in NJ]

Gen 3:6

And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make one wise, she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, and gave also unto her husband with her; and he did eat.

Just mentioned it because I have wondered about it. Although I don’t know what we are to infer by that, if anything.

Well just to say, myself I think Jesus did return in wrath, so to speak, to execute judgment upon Israel in 70AD...it was the end for Israel and the old covenant. And the gospel had gone out to the inhabited world by then. But there seems to be a principle of everything is to the Jew first then to the Gentile, as Israel is our ensample........the world (Gentiles) is waiting to be judged as well.

If we say: "Jesus Returned in 70AD" we are saying that JESUS , the OT prophets and the Apostles were not speaking Truth.

Surely the Lord God does nothing,
Unless He reveals His secret to His servants the prophets.
A lion has roared!
Who will not fear?
The Lord God has spoken!
Who can but prophesy? - Amos 3:7-8

 

[David in NJ]

11And He said, “Who told you that you were naked? Have you eaten from the tree of which I commanded you that you should not eat?”

12Then the man said, “The woman whom You gave to be with me, she gave me of the tree, and I ate.”

13And the Lord God said to the woman, “What is this you have done?”

The woman said, “The serpent deceived me, and I ate.”

And that is exactly HOW it went down . The serpent BEGUILED the woman
and the man chose his wife over GOD and hearkened unto her and ate of her hand the very fruit
HE KNEW he was not supposed to eat .
Weaker vessel and man chose his wife over GOD .
Any guesses as to WHY the peoples ought to HEED GOD , HIS WORDS
and not rather the twister of said words . CAUSE IT AINT GONNA BODE WELL at all
who choose the twister over GOD . oh i must say IT WONT BODE WELL AT ALL .
NEVER HAS . I challenge anyone to show me where DENYING G OD , HIS WORDS
and choosing to beleive a lie , a twister of scrips , HAS EVER ONCE WORKED TO THE GOOD OF any who did .
NO SIR .
DEATH . and the second death awaits all WHO NOW TWIST HIS WORDS and REJECT HIM .
I do not pander to the emotional cues of this love generation
FOR THEY HAVE PANDERED to the wrong god and its love .
I expose and shall do so at the cost of my own life . ITS JESUS for the sheep . EVERY WORD of GOD is T RUTH
and is our meat . THEY can keep all the pretzel twisted doctrines for and to themselves .
TRUTH is our meat .

This is why i said to @TLHKAJ and @Lizbeth to DWELL on the Scripture = the words of GOD

Genesis is the Foundation/Alpha of all TRUTH that would proceed from the Mouth of God/Omega.

 

[David in NJ]

11And He said, “Who told you that you were naked? Have you eaten from the tree of which I commanded you that you should not eat?”

12Then the man said, “The woman whom You gave to be with me, she gave me of the tree, and I ate.”

13And the Lord God said to the woman, “What is this you have done?”

The woman said, “The serpent deceived me, and I ate.”

And that is exactly HOW it went down . The serpent BEGUILED the woman
and the man chose his wife over GOD and hearkened unto her and ate of her hand the very fruit
HE KNEW he was not supposed to eat .
Weaker vessel and man chose his wife over GOD .
Any guesses as to WHY the peoples ought to HEED GOD , HIS WORDS
and not rather the twister of said words . CAUSE IT AINT GONNA BODE WELL at all
who choose the twister over GOD . oh i must say IT WONT BODE WELL AT ALL .
NEVER HAS . I challenge anyone to show me where DENYING G OD , HIS WORDS
and choosing to beleive a lie , a twister of scrips , HAS EVER ONCE WORKED TO THE GOOD OF any who did .
NO SIR .
DEATH . and the second death awaits all WHO NOW TWIST HIS WORDS and REJECT HIM .
I do not pander to the emotional cues of this love generation
FOR THEY HAVE PANDERED to the wrong god and its love .
I expose and shall do so at the cost of my own life . ITS JESUS for the sheep . EVERY WORD of GOD is T RUTH
and is our meat . THEY can keep all the pretzel twisted doctrines for and to themselves .
TRUTH is our meat .

Crystal CLEAR = satan did NOT speak to Adam nor entice Adam directly = "the woman gave me the fruit to eat"

Had Adam been present to the conversation the HOLY SPIRIT would NEVER separate Adam from Eve in the FIRST act of Deception/Sin

 

[amigo de christo]

If we say: "Jesus Returned in 70AD" we are saying that JESUS , the OT prophets and the Apostles were not speaking Truth.

Surely the Lord God does nothing,
Unless He reveals His secret to His servants the prophets.
A lion has roared!
Who will not fear?
The Lord God has spoken!
Who can but prophesy? - Amos 3:7-8

lets examine this and see if it be true .
Ready
WHEN JESUS RETURNS what do it say occurs
And all , ALL NATIONS shall WAIL because of HIM
EVEN SO amen . YOU are correct my friend . JESUS HAS NOT returned , nor did he IN SEVENTY AD .
cause WHEN HE DO ALL NATIONS gonna mourn . as HE DELIVERS THE WRATH OF GOD upon them
ONLY THE SHEEP will escape the WRATH of G OD.
many beleive in so many isms they have no idea they are only in a prism of prison .
Folks better pick bibles up again and learn for themselves the T RUTH .

 

[Muna]

And that is exactly HOW it went down .

I agree, I never understood the whole blame game thing people say was going on there because when you read how it unfolded and how they answer to the LORD who asked them about it, its exactly how it went down.

 

[amigo de christo]

This is why i said to @TLHKAJ and @Lizbeth to DWELL on the Scripture = the words of GOD

Genesis is the Foundation/Alpha of all TRUTH that would proceed from the Mouth of God/Omega.

feel free to examine the scrips my friend . Revalation chapter one shows us ALL nations mourn . that be wrath
and that be on all nations . all who rejected JESUS .
When the apostels spoke of the DAY OF THE LORD
tell me what did they describe . was it seven years mid this , pre that
OR WAS IT A ONE TIME EVENT .
A one TIME EVENT .
That ONE TIME EVENT , did not occur in seventy ad . nor has it yet occured .
BUT SOON WILL . for as the most anti christ loving merged , we are one , are hollering their lie
unto the people , BELEIVING and chanting this is the way to peace n safety .
DO NOT BE SEATED WITH THEM . ITS NOT G ONNA BE PEACE N SAFETY .
FOR there shall be NO PEACE unto the wicked . THEY REJECTED JESUS david . THEY HAVE REJECTED JESUS
for a lie , for a false love broad path lie . SO how can they escape the wrath of GOD .
THE RIGHTEOUS JUDGMENT OF GOD . REJECT THE LOVE OF THE TRUTH and preach a lie , ONLY damnation awaits such a soul .

 

[amigo de christo]

I agree, I never understood the whole blame game thing people say was going on there because when you read how it unfolded and how they answer to the LORD who asked them about it, its exactly how it went down.

the blame game dont work ON GOD . as you well see that .
I myself can no more blame eve or adam , AS IF none of us have ever sinned .
THERE is not one man or woman on earth
that can try and pretend like THEY WOULD NOT HAVE FAILED . WE ALL HAVE . that too is a fact .
OH its a fact all right .
And so is this
LORD who then can be saved
WITH MAN ITS IMPOSSIBLE . that is a fact .
BUT NOT WITH GOD . that is a fact .
GOD DONE chose how to save the world , and you can bet it was not ecumenicsim
IT WAS JESUS . to save ALL WHO DO BELIEVE . and yeah BELEIVE is the KEY .
JESUS has been trod under foot . And how i grow weary watching this generation
try and merge BELEIF WITH UNBELIEF . cant do it . EITHER ONE BLEIEVES or they DONT .
but it cannot be both . SO no more ropes of false love to these lost religoins or anyone .
WE THROW and MUST THROW the ONLY LINE OF LIFE that can save this drowining generaiton .
THAT BE JESUS . cause any other rope one throws WONT BE SAVING DIDLY . may as well
throw on line with a ten thouand pound rock attached . ALL a false line gonna do
IS SINK the one drowning .
No matter how pretty , nice and loving that line may have seemed , IT AINT GONNA SAVE THEM .
ONLY JESUS CAN . and what i say to one i say to all , JESUS CAN ONLY SAVE and ye MUST BELEIVE ON HIM for to be saved .

 

[ProverbsInPink]

And that's why many Christians view Jews as worthless trash who are unworthy to breathe our air and deserving of vitriolic hatred and forever torture.

There's nothing in those passages that refers to Jews exclusively.

I think you're forgetting the Jews are Gods chosen people. They will come to believe .

Meanwhile,those passages you cite would aptly refer to white supremacists, neo-Nazis, and supersessionists, do fit those predictions.

 

[amigo de christo]

This is why i said to @TLHKAJ and @Lizbeth to DWELL on the Scripture = the words of GOD

Genesis is the Foundation/Alpha of all TRUTH that would proceed from the Mouth of God/Omega.

When you’re young time crawls like molasses
But it sprints when the hair turns gray
You wake up countin years not moments
And you feel the truth you used to delay
We keep thinkin we have forever
To fix the messes we made inside
But time is not a warm invitation
It is a test that God designed
He calls us now to walk with purpose
While the sun is still above
choose ye CHRIST JESUS today
let us heed every of Truth HE did say .

 

[amigo de christo]

i heard a song today so i t hought i would bring part of it
and then add the last line
about choosing JESUS this very day .

 

[David in NJ]

the blame game dont work ON GOD . as you well see that .
I myself can no more blame eve or adam , AS IF none of us have ever sinned .
THERE is not one man or woman on earth
that can try and pretend like THEY WOULD NOT HAVE FAILED . WE ALL HAVE . that too is a fact .
OH its a fact all right .
And so is this
LORD who then can be saved
WITH MAN ITS IMPOSSIBLE . that is a fact .
BUT NOT WITH GOD . that is a fact .
GOD DONE chose how to save the world , and you can bet it was not ecumenicsim
IT WAS JESUS . to save ALL WHO DO BELIEVE . and yeah BELEIVE is the KEY .
JESUS has been trod under foot . And how i grow weary watching this generation
try and merge BELEIF WITH UNBELIEF . cant do it . EITHER ONE BLEIEVES or they DONT .
but it cannot be both . SO no more ropes of false love to these lost religoins or anyone .
WE THROW and MUST THROW the ONLY LINE OF LIFE that can save this drowining generaiton .
THAT BE JESUS . cause any other rope one throws WONT BE SAVING DIDLY . may as well
throw on line with a ten thouand pound rock attached . ALL a false line gonna do
IS SINK the one drowning .
No matter how pretty , nice and loving that line may have seemed , IT AINT GONNA SAVE THEM .
ONLY JESUS CAN . and what i say to one i say to all , JESUS CAN ONLY SAVE and ye MUST BELEIVE ON HIM for to be saved .

In the ENTIRE Scriptures = GOD never once conceded to the excuse of "blame game" whereby they seek to undermine = IT IS WRITTEN

GOD could of Said = Adam you were standing right next to Eve, why did you let her do that...........

GOD KNEW and by the Grace of GOD and His HOLY SPIRIT and His WORD so do i = Thy Word is TRUTH"

 

[David in NJ]

When you’re young time crawls like molasses
But it sprints when the hair turns gray
You wake up countin years not moments
And you feel the truth you used to delay
We keep thinkin we have forever
To fix the messes we made inside
But time is not a warm invitation
It is a test that God designed
He calls us now to walk with purpose
While the sun is still above
choose ye CHRIST JESUS today
let us heed every of Truth HE did say .

Have you noticed that we who obey Matthew 4:4 are being accused of "adding to God's words"

YET , these same people will deny what God has Spoken and come up with their own theories...................

 

[amigo de christo]

There's nothing in those passages that refers to Jews exclusively.

I think you're forgetting the Jews are Gods chosen people. They will come to believe .

Meanwhile,those passages you cite would aptly refer to white supremacists, neo-Nazis, and supersessionists, do fit those predictions.

do you truly beleive that every jew will come to beleive .
Will they
And what occurs to all the jews in JESUS day and to now which have died in unbeleief .
Surely you dont think every one born jewish came to beleive .
Maybe just maybe someone messed up JUST WHO ALL OF ISRAEL truly is .
Oh it is those who BELIEVE IN JESUS all right .
But i would not cling to the flesh
but rather to THE WHO IS BORN AGAIN .
for a jew will and can
just as a gentile will and can
WAIL ON THE DAY OF THE LORD . Frankly it wont matter on that day
who had been born of the flesh a jew ,
WHAT MA TTERS IS
WHO IS BORN AGAIN . and the flesh , yeah lets just say IT cant produce THE BORN AGAIN .
I highly suspect its high time we got this people back into the bible again .
I SEE far too many isms of a great prism , only that prism is PRISON .

 

[amigo de christo]

In the ENTIRE Scriptures = GOD never once conceded to the excuse of "blame game" whereby they seek to undermine = IT IS WRITTEN

GOD could of Said = Adam you were standing right next to Eve, why did you let her do that...........

GOD KNEW and by the Grace of GOD and His HOLY SPIRIT and His WORD so do i = Thy Word is TRUTH"

They both put the blame on the one who had decieved them .
Eve put it on the serpent
Adam tried to put it on the woman .
Oh its real clear how it went down my friend .
But if that sounds like blasphemy to many
THEN LET THEM READ BOTH PETER and PAUL .
they didnt write that the serpent beguiled them
IT was the woman and then after eating SHE beguiled the man .
NONE of them is without fault . THEY KNEW WHAT GOD SAID .
They chose wrong .
WHILE its true the devil is a liar
He cannot FORCE one to do . What one does they chose to do . HE can decieve .
YES HE DOES THAT
but here is a little secrete this church age seems to have forgotten .
HOW COME THE SHEEP DONT FALL FOR IT .
And the answer is , JESUS HAS THE SHEEP .
and this true too .
I was not always OF THIS TRUE HEAVENLY KINGDOM
i was once just as decieved and loving to be decieved as is the children of wrath .
SOMEONE called , SOMEONE pulled me out , AND TO HE I OWE EVERYTHING .
but many sure do reject THIS ONE who calls and those HE SENDS to call this people
and WORSE you got it going on with lots of christendom . rejecting the words of TRUTH .
HEY they sound just like i once was . BEFORE THE GRACE OF GOD came upon me .
TAKE NOTE I SAID BEFORE . I DO NOT SEE THE SPIRIT on many within christendom at all david .
AND THAT DO BOTHER ME BIG TIME . cause i know IF ANY MAN HAS NOT THE SPIRIT OF CHRIST
THEY ARE NOT HIS . and if not HIS they can only still belong to the same one i once did
THE DARK ONE . THINGS have not been , and darn sure are not , LOOKING GOOD for this generation
of christendom , let alone this world . WE IS IN A MASSIVE FALLING AWAY NOW .