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I judge no man ,however the covenant was made with one people ,so to me that matters ....I recognize that without Christ even they won't be saved , ie broken from their own tree

Fact remains scripture states you will know His people by the curses upon them ....

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They were broken off their tree to make room, so to speak, for Gentiles. In the end of this age it seems Gentile branches are being broken off in the falling away...could this be to make room for more Jewish branches? And remember that t is by our mercy that they may find God's mercy in Christ.

God punishes and disciplines who He loves as sons....but not we. A good reading of Obadiah helps us to see what our attitude should not be, lest we incur punishment as well.

I just want to make sure we are balanced as we should be on this subject. I am concerned about a groundswell of antisemitism.....we must not be partakers of that evil.
 
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They were broken off their tree to make room, so to speak, for Gentiles. In the end of this age it seems Gentile branches are being broken off in the falling away...could this be to make room for more Jewish branches? And remember that t is by our mercy that they may find God's mercy in Christ.

God punishes and disciplines who He loves as sons....but not we. A good reading of Obadiah helps us to see what our attitude should not be, lest we incur punishment as well.

I just want to make sure we are balanced as we should be on this subject. I am concerned about a groundswell of antisemitism.....we must not be partakers of that evil.
Salvation is not limited to some specific number. Therefore, one does not need to fall away to make room for another one...
 

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Salvation is not limited to some specific number. Therefore, one does not need to fall away to make room for another one...
100% TRUTH - Thank You

CHRIST is the HOUSE and TEMPLE of GOD and ALL of Creation emanates from CHRIST = Colossians 1:15-18

He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation.
For by Him all things were created that are in heaven and that are on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or principalities or powers.
All things were created through Him and for Him.
And He is before all things, and in Him all things consist.
And He is the head of the body, the church, who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead, that in all things He may have the preeminence.

However, the Most High does not dwell in houses made by human hands. As the prophet says:
‘Heaven is My throne
and the earth is My footstool.
What kind of house will you build for Me, says the Lord,
or where will My place of repose be?
Has not My hand made all these things?’

The HEAVEN of Heavens CANNOT contain
THEE = how much less these buildings called 'churches'
 
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Christians who hate Israel

Christian
is a TERM GROSSLY NOT Understood, BY THEY of “NON- Christian Teaching…

And SADLY NOT UNDERSTOOD by THEY professing to BE “Christians”… or presuming OTHERS “ARE” Christian.

CHRIST… IS the Promised ISRAEL Messiah.
CHRIST… IS Gods Lord and Faithful Servant.
JESUS…. IS Gods Lord.
CHRIST… IS the Power of God.
CHRIST… IS the Seed of God.
JESUS…. IS the Word of God in mans Visible appearance.
Gods Lord Servant, IS Gods Sacrificial LAMB.
Gods Sacrificial Lamb, IS the Lamb of God.

Gods, Righteous, Sinless, Holy, Faithful Servant…HAS Multiple… TTTLES, DESCRIPTIONS, SPECIFIC WORKS to ACCOMPLISH … FOR the Heavenly Invisible God.”

From Experiencing the Hardships, the injustices, the chaos, the corruption, the tribulations, the deceit, OF man AGAINST…MAN…
And EVEN brutal Bodily Death, mens Bodys Experience….
All the While…Accomplishing… the Upstanding, Righteous, Holy, Works IN Service TO: the Heavenly Invisible God.

Mans… PERFECT Example… whereby, EACH TITLE, EACH DESCRIPTION…. reveals to man…
The INTENT… of the “EACH” SPECIFIC WORKS…(of a LONG LIST) Gods Holy Servant, IS ACCOMPLISHING, ( regarding EACH “individual” manKIND of being.


Long List Examples… teaching truths, correcting, forgiving, saving souls of/in man, comforting, quickening spirits in man, sanctifying, cleansing, covering, redeeming, etc.

CHRIST… meaning Revealed
SUFFIX…” ian“ Meaning… belonging to, related to, like…

CHRIST- IAN… implies…anyone or combination OF:
Maybe…Belonging to…
Maybe…Related to…
Maybe…Like

TO WHAT? ANY of The Titles, Works, of Christ.

Maybe hearing, maybe learning, maybe following His Teachings, Maybe doubting, Maybe trusting, Maybe preaching His Words, Maybe Disagreeing, Maybe Converting, Maybe Rejecting…

POINT… a Christian… can, hear, learn, follow, trust, doubt… Covert or Reject and Stop following and Never Convert.

Which is to SAY …
The “status… Title Christian”… is A Temporary Title , Description… Anyone can “Claim Applies to Them”…

However… THAT “Title” can at Any moment can Be Rejected, by the Individual….

Until and Unless… an individual “Freely, by His OWN Truth, OWN Will TO choose / elect/ /testify/ surrender/ submit wholly his (body, soul, spirit) to Become MADE / Converted wholly (body, soul, spirit) “Gods POSSESSION”.

(And FYI) All of Gods Possessions ARE Gods Inheritances.

Point.
“Christian” (title) IS AN Indication… of Any of the Lists of Works being accomplished in A man.
(AND such works maintained or lost or rejected by the POWER of THAT individual man).

Point.
A “Converted Christian” IS A Revealing…All of Christ the Lord Jesus’ Works HAVE BEEN ONCE and forever Accomplished IN A man.
(AND kEPT forever Accomplished in such man BY the POWER of God).


Glory to God,
Taken
you forgot a key thing .
Here lets add it to the list .
Those who hate israel wont point israel to the TRUE KING of TRUE ISRAEL
Hope that helps . they had rather sit under ecumenical interfaith and go with that flow
that somehow all jews and etc are all of GOD . muslims too , others too .
WE been lied to big time .
And now its TIME to start preaching JESUS again . Those who hate israel
ALLOW SIN upon israel , allow UNBELIEF upon israel . And thus most of israel remains NOT OF ISRAEL .
Hope that helps clear things up . NOW to the trenches one and to the trenches all .
WE GOT A REAL TRUE gospel to defend .
 

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100% TRUTH - Thank You

CHRIST is the HOUSE and TEMPLE of GOD and ALL of Creation emanates from CHRIST = Colossians 1:15-18

He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation.
For by Him all things were created that are in heaven and that are on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or principalities or powers.
All things were created through Him and for Him.
And He is before all things, and in Him all things consist.
And He is the head of the body, the church, who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead, that in all things He may have the preeminence.

However, the Most High does not dwell in houses made by human hands. As the prophet says:
‘Heaven is My throne
and the earth is My footstool.
What kind of house will you build for Me, says the Lord,
or where will My place of repose be?
Has not My hand made all these things?’

The HEAVEN of Heavens CANNOT contain
THEE = how much less these buildings called 'churches'
How much less these buildings called churches .
Rather odd . upon viewing and even upon entering some of these
Something and someone sure seemed to be missing , even spoken against , even his words TWISTED .
But they call themselves a church . if it were a church
THEN WHY do its leaders lead them to the ecumincal harlot .
IF it were a church then why does it reject and cast the very words OF GOD BEHIND IT .
IF it be a church why does it attack the true sheep who come within
and bring the words of GOD unto it .
IF it be a church , if its leaders be men of GOD
THEN WHY ON earth has it and is it removing HIS WORDS in favor of what appeases man .
WE DO HAV E PROBLEMS all right .
 

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100% TRUTH - Thank You

CHRIST is the HOUSE and TEMPLE of GOD and ALL of Creation emanates from CHRIST = Colossians 1:15-18

He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation.
For by Him all things were created that are in heaven and that are on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or principalities or powers.
All things were created through Him and for Him.
And He is before all things, and in Him all things consist.
And He is the head of the body, the church, who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead, that in all things He may have the preeminence.

However, the Most High does not dwell in houses made by human hands. As the prophet says:
‘Heaven is My throne
and the earth is My footstool.
What kind of house will you build for Me, says the Lord,
or where will My place of repose be?
Has not My hand made all these things?’

The HEAVEN of Heavens CANNOT contain
THEE = how much less these buildings called 'churches'
Those who hate israel wont point israel to the TRUE KING of TRUE ISRAEL
Hope that helps . they had rather sit under ecumenical interfaith and go with that flow
that somehow all jews and etc are all of GOD . muslims too , others too .
WE been lied to big time .
And now its TIME to start preaching JESUS again . Those who hate israel
ALLOW SIN upon israel , allow UNBELIEF upon israel . And thus most of israel remains NOT OF ISRAEL .
Hope that helps clear things up . NOW to the trenches one and to the trenches all .
WE GOT A REAL TRUE gospel to defend .
 

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Salvation is not limited to some specific number. Therefore, one does not need to fall away to make room for another one...
Rom 11:17-25

And if some of the branches be broken off, and thou, being a wild olive tree, wert graffed in among them, and with them partakest of the root and fatness of the olive tree;

Boast not against the branches. But if thou boast, thou bearest not the root, but the root thee.

Thou wilt say then, The branches were broken off, that I might be graffed in.

Well; because of unbelief they were broken off, and thou standest by faith. Be not highminded, but fear:

For if God spared not the natural branches, take heed lest he also spare not thee.

Behold therefore the goodness and severity of God: on them which fell, severity; but toward thee, goodness, if thou continue in his goodness: otherwise thou also shalt be cut off.

And they also, if they abide not still in unbelief, shall be graffed in: for God is able to graff them in again.

For if thou wert cut out of the olive tree which is wild by nature, and wert graffed contrary to nature into a good olive tree: how much more shall these, which be the natural branches, be graffed into their own olive tree?

For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.


Yes, it’s not a literal cause and effect. Spiritual language of scripture is often in a manner of speaking…. it’s in a “so to speak” kind of way……this scripture was written as a warning and admonition. that what happened to Israel could happen to us. At the time many branches in Israel were being broken off in the first century, it happened that many Gentiles were being grafted in……….so as we are seeing many Gentile branches being broken off in the current falling away, it may be that we will see more Jewish branches being grafted in. God doesn’t explicitly cause people to fall away, however He is sovereign over everything that happens and has foreseen it all. The bible says the ploughman will overtake the reaper…that was fulfilled I believe with John the Baptist and Jesus…John was the ploughman (spirit of Elijah) and Jesus was the reaper…..where Jesus said to His disciples that they were reaping what others had worked hard for……..however, since Israel is our “ensample”, it makes me wonder if things are going to come full circle in the end.
 

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Rom 11:17-25

And if some of the branches be broken off, and thou, being a wild olive tree, wert graffed in among them, and with them partakest of the root and fatness of the olive tree;

Boast not against the branches. But if thou boast, thou bearest not the root, but the root thee.

Thou wilt say then, The branches were broken off, that I might be graffed in.

Well; because of unbelief they were broken off, and thou standest by faith. Be not highminded, but fear:

For if God spared not the natural branches, take heed lest he also spare not thee.

Behold therefore the goodness and severity of God: on them which fell, severity; but toward thee, goodness, if thou continue in his goodness: otherwise thou also shalt be cut off.

And they also, if they abide not still in unbelief, shall be graffed in: for God is able to graff them in again.

For if thou wert cut out of the olive tree which is wild by nature, and wert graffed contrary to nature into a good olive tree: how much more shall these, which be the natural branches, be graffed into their own olive tree?

For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.


Yes, it’s not a literal cause and effect. Spiritual language of scripture is often in a manner of speaking…. it’s in a “so to speak” kind of way……this scripture was written as a warning and admonition. that what happened to Israel could happen to us. At the time many branches in Israel were being broken off in the first century, it happened that many Gentiles were being grafted in……….so as we are seeing many Gentile branches being broken off in the current falling away, it may be that we will see more Jewish branches being grafted in. God doesn’t explicitly cause people to fall away, however He is sovereign over everything that happens and has foreseen it all. The bible says the ploughman will overtake the reaper…that was fulfilled I believe with John the Baptist and Jesus…John was the ploughman (spirit of Elijah) and Jesus was the reaper…..where Jesus said to His disciples that they were reaping what others had worked hard for……..however, since Israel is our “ensample”, it makes me wonder if things are going to come full circle in the end.
To the trenches my dear sister .
I have a real simple solution .
WHY is one cut out and how can one be grafted in .
Let us preach JESUS to the last breath .
If we want souls saved and grafted in , ITS SIMPLE . BELIEVE YE ON JESUS THE CHRIST
And if one continues not in HIM , well then cut out , unbelief .
But let us all be on gaurd . Because another jesus wont be saving one either .
So lets be real sure to INCLUDE ALL THINGS he taught and not twist and omit THINGS he said in favor of what pleases man .
Stand firm on the LORD dear sister . To HE we owe all . Be encouraged dear sister .
 

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Rom 11:17-25

And if some of the branches be broken off, and thou, being a wild olive tree, wert graffed in among them, and with them partakest of the root and fatness of the olive tree;

Boast not against the branches. But if thou boast, thou bearest not the root, but the root thee.

Thou wilt say then, The branches were broken off, that I might be graffed in.

Well; because of unbelief they were broken off, and thou standest by faith. Be not highminded, but fear:

For if God spared not the natural branches, take heed lest he also spare not thee.

Behold therefore the goodness and severity of God: on them which fell, severity; but toward thee, goodness, if thou continue in his goodness: otherwise thou also shalt be cut off.

And they also, if they abide not still in unbelief, shall be graffed in: for God is able to graff them in again.

For if thou wert cut out of the olive tree which is wild by nature, and wert graffed contrary to nature into a good olive tree: how much more shall these, which be the natural branches, be graffed into their own olive tree?

For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.


Yes, it’s not a literal cause and effect. Spiritual language of scripture is often in a manner of speaking…. it’s in a “so to speak” kind of way……this scripture was written as a warning and admonition. that what happened to Israel could happen to us. At the time many branches in Israel were being broken off in the first century, it happened that many Gentiles were being grafted in……….so as we are seeing many Gentile branches being broken off in the current falling away, it may be that we will see more Jewish branches being grafted in. God doesn’t explicitly cause people to fall away, however He is sovereign over everything that happens and has foreseen it all. The bible says the ploughman will overtake the reaper…that was fulfilled I believe with John the Baptist and Jesus…John was the ploughman (spirit of Elijah) and Jesus was the reaper…..where Jesus said to His disciples that they were reaping what others had worked hard for……..however, since Israel is our “ensample”, it makes me wonder if things are going to come full circle in the end.
Absolutely Dear Sister in CHRIST and Please pay Special Attention to = "Now therefore"

But there is a Huge GLORIOUS UP-Grade from the OT = One New MAN


For He Himself is our peace, who has made both one, and has broken down the middle wall of separation, having abolished in His flesh the enmity, that is, the law of commandments contained in ordinances, so as to create in Himself one new man from the two, thus making peace, and that He might reconcile them both to God in one body through the cross, thereby putting to death the enmity. And He came and preached peace to you who were afar off and to those who were near. For through Him we both have access by one Spirit to the Father.

Now, therefore, you are no longer strangers and foreigners, but fellow citizens with the saints and members of the household of God, having been built on the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ Himself being the chief cornerstone, in whom the whole building, being fitted together, grows into a holy temple in the Lord, in whom you also are being built together for a dwelling place of God in the Spirit.
 
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It tells you about one man by that name. Not sure if he is the one you cited.

I did not cite him, but was pointing out was that the traditions (you speak of) do use that man ( Eusebius) using his own book (as the video shows us) to justify that the lineage was of Mary's when in reality that man (Eusebius) in his own book contradicts their stand on that. These pretending to cite his very book in order to do just that). Its in error, the video demonstrated this in the very end of that video I posted.
 

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Those who hate israel wont point israel to the TRUE KING of TRUE ISRAEL
Hope that helps . they had rather sit under ecumenical interfaith and go with that flow
that somehow all jews and etc are all of GOD . muslims too , others too .
WE been lied to big time .
And now its TIME to start preaching JESUS again . Those who hate israel
ALLOW SIN upon israel , allow UNBELIEF upon israel . And thus most of israel remains NOT OF ISRAEL .
Hope that helps clear things up . NOW to the trenches one and to the trenches all .
WE GOT A REAL TRUE gospel to defend .
Speaking of "Loving Israel"

Just now, Samuel the Jewish rabbi, stopped over and he is praising YESHUA his SAVIOR

Thank You for keeping him in your prayers as he just received YESHUA about two months ago.

HalleluYAH


Dear @Lizbeth, please lift Samuel UP in prayer as well as the other rabbis are not happy with his receiving the LORD Jesus Christ.
 
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Speaking of "Loving Israel"

Just now, Samuel the Jewish rabbi, stopped over and he is praising YESHUA his SAVIOR

Thank You for keeping him in your prayers as he just received YESHUA about two months ago.

HalleluYAH


Dear @Lizbeth, please lift Samuel UP in prayer as well as the other rabbis are not happy with his receiving the LORD Jesus Christ.
Praise the Lord...amen, I will pray.
 

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BIG Thank You

My wife and i are praying for the small Jewish community in which we live, for a Acts ch2 Outpouring.
Stay in prayer and be pointing to Christ JESUS always .
For i shall remind us all of what SOME of us here already know .
TO DENY GOD ALL MIGHTY is a second death sentence .
But a man might say hey but dont muslims know God , dont the unbeleiving jews know and serve him .
LET ME JUST say THAT IF ANY DENIES JESUS THE CHRIST , THE SON of GOD
THEY DO DENY GOD ALL MIGHTY . So no the muslims do not Serve or know GOD , nor does any jew who beleives not
the testimony that GOD gave of the Son .
So there is only ONE way to truly become a child of GOD , to be saved , to be justfied
by all things whereby one cannot be justifed by the law .
HIS NAME , JESUS THE CHRIST , ye must believe on HIM .
For he who believes NOT the testimony GOD gave of the SON ,
Is not the friend of GOD , HE calls GOD a LIAR . yes HE actually do call GOD a liar .
AS john knew and wrote this to the church .
 

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Praise the Lord...amen, I will pray.
Stay dug in the trenches sister . This life is running its course quickly now .
And the time of the end hour has come upon this last generation .
it will move in quickly . The hour of our betrayal does draw nigh sister .
The inclusiviains of the united religions of the world
whose god was the god of interfaith
will lead them as one mind and heart to come against the sheep .
Let us not fear man or what he can do to us sister .
These last fourteen years , since i first met you , as more whites have appeared in my beard ,
though the hair on my head remains dark , It is clear to see
this life is but a vapor and the times have changed from bad to worse .
But what a lovely home awaits the sheep at the end of our faith .
AND ALL THANKS TO GOD AND TO HIS CHRIST , that will be our forever home one day . real peaceful
to think about that sister . But till then we march on in the LORD .
 

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Speaking of "Loving Israel"

Just now, Samuel the Jewish rabbi, stopped over and he is praising YESHUA his SAVIOR

Thank You for keeping him in your prayers as he just received YESHUA about two months ago.

HalleluYAH


Dear @Lizbeth, please lift Samuel UP in prayer as well as the other rabbis are not happy with his receiving the LORD Jesus Christ.
Onward in the glorious LORD my friend . We make our last stand now . Keep pointing to CHRIST JESUS
We will also keep ol Samuel in prayer that his faith slips not .
And remember we must t hrough much tribulation enter into the kingdom of GOD .
This world , sadly even a lot of cinos , have no love for us david . But be that as it may
I can only continue to warn and to do as i must , FOR THEIR SAKES , not for mine .
I am saved already regardless of who hears me or not . JESUS has the sheep my friend .
I Do what i do for the peoples , and t hough the more i do love them the less i be loved .
But some will hear , most will reject . We can only SPEAK THE TRUTH of ALL MIGHTY GOD . TRENCH TIME
david and trench time all , It is war for the souls of men and ONLY JESUS CAN SAVE ONE .
 
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you forgot a key thing .
Here lets add it to the list .
Those who hate israel wont point israel to the TRUE KING of TRUE ISRAEL …

God LOVES All of His Creations…
God HATES Some of His Creations…

Oxymoron? No. Why?

Because…
It is of WHO God Is.

God IS LOVE… (AGAPE LOVE)…He can Not change…

Angels ARE…not LOVE, they ARE creations Of LOVE.
Angels WERE Created GOOD.
Angels CAN Change.
Angels CAN Remain (FREEWILL) GOOD or CAN BECOME (FREEWILL) EVIL….

Man IS …not LOVE, they ARE creations Of LOVE.
Man WAS Created GOOD.
Man (animals, plants) WERE CREATED, with their OWN, reproduction SEEDS, to procreated, “Their Same KIND of “being/ thing”…
(It’s the journey of THAT SEED…firm prepared planting, tending, nurturing, etc.
That establishes… it’s MATURED, Aged, Journey …. To Mature into its Journey’s (manKIND) End of Life, AS Good or Evil.

Ignoring… Animals / Plants…
Focus on Man… He HAS the Option, the Offering FROM God, to “Establish” an Express, one on one … Righteous, Wholly, Holy, Perfect, Everlasting, Relationship WITH God… Kept Forever… BY the Power of God

Love…is ALSO…an “EMOTION” “FEELING”…
AS ARE…Like, Hate, DisLike, Anger, Joy, Sad, Mad, Also “Emotions”.

God HAS “Emotions / Feelings”
Man HAS “Emotions / Feelings”

HATE is a strong Dislike Against Anyone or Any thing.
* Anti-Semitism, is a Hostility or Prejudice Against a Person of the Jewish (non- Gentile) Race.


Jesus Warned “ISRAEL ie. The Jewish race,” People, “they”, “their RACE” would be Hated, (strongly Disliked)…

AND?
Gentiles (Race)…Some… DO HATE The Jewish (Race), the Nation ISRAEL (of the Jewish (Race), and
Gentiles (Race) … Some… DO HATE particular JEWS positioned in Leadership roles of ISRAEL,
as Well AS others, Gentiles (Race) DO HATE particular Gentiles (Race) positioned in other Nations Leadership roles.

Point IS…
Any man of any Race (Jewish Race or Gentile Race) can Hate, be prejudice, have hostility toward their OWN or OTHER Race.


And?
Does That Hate, prejudice, hostility…
Determine ANY Individuals…”chance, hope, for Salvation”?

No.

Jesus was Clear… about How and If and When a ANY man receives Salvation.

Jesus was Clear… any man WHO Blesses ISRAEL. (The Jewish Race), They (the man Blessing ISRAEL (the Jewish Race), would Also, From, Of, By God “Be Blessed”.

Any man, “choosing to NOT BLESS ISRAEL (the Jewish Race),” will thus, lose out on receiving A particular Blessing From God.

Men have Mis-mashed word meanings for centuries, “changing the meaning of words of Truth, Into Lies…”

AS does not mean IS.
GOD does not mean HUMAN.
HOT does not mean ATTRACTIVE.
SICK does not mean STRONG LIKE.
GAY does not mean HOMOSEXUAL.
MARRIAGE does not mean adjoining SAME GENDERS.

Point…“Perspective”, Gods Truth is Paramount, When Engaging in a Spiritual Conversation.

Glory to God,
Taken
 

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Stay dug in the trenches sister . This life is running its course quickly now .
And the time of the end hour has come upon this last generation .
it will move in quickly . The hour of our betrayal does draw nigh sister .
The inclusiviains of the united religions of the world
whose god was the god of interfaith
will lead them as one mind and heart to come against the sheep .
Let us not fear man or what he can do to us sister .
These last fourteen years , since i first met you , as more whites have appeared in my beard ,
though the hair on my head remains dark , It is clear to see
this life is but a vapor and the times have changed from bad to worse .
But what a lovely home awaits the sheep at the end of our faith .
AND ALL THANKS TO GOD AND TO HIS CHRIST , that will be our forever home one day . real peaceful
to think about that sister . But till then we march on in the LORD .
@amigo de christo
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