Demographic collapse. Capitalism Dies of Childlessness

[Mink57]

just wait till you hear
what the all inclusive ecumenical generation will soon call
the few YET THE TRUE sheep , who darn sure didnt conform to its false love .
Just wait .
but for a preview lets just say i have already been even labeled an anti christ
, mostly a hater who knows not GOD or HIS LOVE , even a satanist .
been banned more times than i can count FROM christain sites

Maybe you should take the hint....

it aint didly doo to me . You dont see me running to mods an d etc every time someone
says one little thing about me .
I could give a rip less what folks say about me. CEPT for this one thing , I weep for them
and ONLY wish they would repent FOR TH EIR OWN sakes . not mine .

You mean...repent of their own sakes as judged by YOU....and not necessarily God.

By grace i have come to the mindset and understanding that men like me , sheep like me , whether man or woman ,
WE GOING to be hated and worse , BY MUCH OF CHRISTENDOM TOO .
But you wont hear me whining about it . I EMBRACE IT as only a badge of honor .
DO you realize what i just said .
Our prescious elites who decieve this people , FEAR that and they will end men like this .
WHY do they fear it . Because a man willing to suffer and to lose all for JESUS sake
IS a man THEY WILL NEVER CONTROL .
its why we have been made to look so darn dangerous to this sold out lukewarm people . WHO honestly
dont give a rip that JESUS has b een trod u nder foot . ALL they desire is their best life now
and the man who can give them that . WELL LOOK out is all i can say .
cause EVEN ADOLF appeared as a man with a great solution , that had he died before world war two
MANY historians agree HE WOULD have gone down as HITLER the great . NOT THE MONSTER .
HOPE IN T HIS WORLD and in these govts , in man and their solutions . WELL Lets just say IT WONT BODE WELL at all .

*Yawn*

 

[Mink57]

if we think hitler did much damage .
If we think that mao did much damgage .
JUST WAIT til we see what is about to rise . And just like its anti christ interfaith solution
It will come in the name of love , of peace , of unity and common ground .
But reader beware . For in its heart was never the desire for the good of humanity
only their destruction .
and it uses men to do its ag enda , men and women who too can say WE do this for the good of humanity and the world .
BUT Indeed it was done for ONLY POWER and CONTROL .
And sadly a whole heap of christendom are just in love with its solution
to unify and be as one
And they will be okay with its solution to rid this earth of all that conformed not .
Have i ever said WE BEING DECIEVED and that the most dangerous wolf is the one claoked in wool .
WELL allow me to say it ag ain . WE BEEN DUPED BIG TIME by this ecumenical harlot
and the love of said harlot . SOON E VERY MAN WOMAN and child
will heed its call as one , its solution as one , for world peace n safety . BUT DO RMEMBER ITS THE DEVIL .
SO i would not heed it .

Wow.....I actually agree with you....

 

[amigo de christo]

Wow.....I actually agree with you....

you do . see .
But the problem is you do not yet realize
THIS is coming in and will come in T HRO UG H and by the ecumenical movement .
Have you ever noticed
that often people can see problems in daily regular life
that they know would not work in their lives .
AND YET when the churches pump these same ideas , WE KNOW WOULD NOT WORK in real life
UNTO the churches , HEY THEY JUST GO WITH THE FLOW .
I know i need to give an example . SO here goes .
THEY say to those who correct sin and error in the church , HEY DONT JUDGE , just love .
Okay .
But how will that work out even with their own children in real life .
The next time your c hild , a child
does anything wrong , perhaps a young toddler is headed towards a elec trical wire
OR pehaps a kid wants to skate on thin ice .
THEN DO AS YOUR CH URCH SAYS . JUST HUG an encourage him . BUT WHEN HE ends up dead
DONT come whining . SIN is deadly , A LIE should not be beleived .
YET when sin , lies , even false gospels are corected in churches , ITS JUDGE NOT , JUDGE NOT .
That is a mad house .

 

[Mink57]

you do . see .
But the problem is you do not yet realize
THIS is coming in and will come in T HRO UG H and by the ecumenical movement .
Have you ever noticed
that often people can see problems in daily regular life
that they know would not work in their lives .
AND YET when the churches pump these same ideas , WE KNOW WOULD NOT WORK in real life
UNTO the churches , HEY THEY JUST GO WITH THE FLOW .
I know i need to give an example . SO here goes .
THEY say to those who correct sin and error in the church , HEY DONT JUDGE , just love .
Okay .
But how will that work out even with their own children in real life .
The next time your c hild , a child
does anything wrong , perhaps a young toddler is headed towards a elec trical wire
OR pehaps a kid wants to skate on thin ice .
THEN DO AS YOUR CH URCH SAYS . JUST HUG an encourage him . BUT WHEN HE ends up dead
DONT come whining . SIN is deadly , A LIE should not be beleived .
YET when sin , lies , even false gospels are corected in churches , ITS JUDGE NOT , JUDGE NOT .
That is a mad house .

Again, I agree with you. But yet....I'm NOT surprised.

I mean, didn't Jesus predict (probably the wrong word, but it gets the point across) that this....that is, ALL of "THIS" was going to happen BEFORE the end?

Maybe not specifically, but nonetheless.

Personally, I think that the worst is yet to come....

Thing is, there's not going to be a solution. Not without a change of hearts. Is that going to happen on a large term scale?

Doubtful. There might be a temporary solution. But long-term?

Yeah. No. Probably not.

I almost feel sorry for the OP. Kind of stuck in "the world".

 

[Chrysostomos]

I don't know how the whole conversation is going on this thread but just to say in general.....this world is lost and sinful and lies under God's wrath...we should not be surprised at this since it is all over God's word...He has not kept it a secret. And He is the one who raises and lowers kings and kingdoms and is presiding over it all, whether to bless or to judge or anything in between. When ancient Israel (who is our ensample) took to obeying the Lord, she was blessed and prospered, but this caused her to soon forgot God, and so the Lord had to discipline and judge her. Same thing is happening in Christendom. But to the faithful remnant of any nation He will show Himself faithful. Jesus said not to worry about the morrow.........God feeds the sparrows how much more will He feed and take care of His own? Not even a sparrow falls to the ground apart from the Father and we are worth more than many sparrows.

Our job is not to change and dominate this world with laws and the enforcing of them, that is what nominal Christianity tries to do.......but the only mandate Jesus gave to HIS church is to rescue souls out of the world. before judgment/wrath falls...like we who believe are in the world but no longer OF it......and salvation has always been about a remnant. The story of Noah is an example.

You say the world “lies under God’s wrath” and He is currently judging Christendom the same way He once judged Israel.

Perfect. Let’s run with that.

If collapsing birth rates, unaffordable housing, and broken families are God’s active judgment right now, then look at the map:

- Capitalist South Korea: TFR 0.72
- Capitalist Italy/Spain/Taiwan/Singapore: 0.7–1.3
- Atheist-socialist North Korea: TFR still above 1.9
- Many traditional peasant societies in Africa (very little capitalism): TFR 4–7

So God’s wrath mysteriously smashes only the most advanced capitalist nations and somehow spares socialist (even openly godless) countries and pre-capitalist peasant societies.

By your own logic, then, God really, really hates capitalism and is punishing it hardest.

Funny how that works.
If this is divine judgment, the verdict is crystal clear: capitalism is what offends Him most.

Thanks for the revelation.

 

[Chrysostomos]

The early church did not live in a commune.......they willingly shared what they had so that nobody had any lack and neither did anybody have any surplus left over. Because of the Holy Spirit, moving mightily in them and among them, not because it was imposed upon them by laws........"great grace was upon them all".

Read Acts again, carefully:

Acts 4:32–35 (KJV)
“All the believers were one in heart and mind. No one claimed that any of their possessions was his own, but they shared everything they had […] And God’s grace was so powerfully at work in them all that there were no needy persons among them. For from time to time those who owned land or houses sold them, brought the money from the sales and put it at the apostles’ feet, and it was distributed to anyone who had need.”

Acts 2:44–45 (KJV)
“All the believers were together and had all things common; and sold their possessions and goods, and parted them to all men, as every man had need.”

That is the literal definition of a commune: private property voluntarily liquidated, everything held in common, distribution strictly according to need, no one keeping surplus.

It wasn’t imposed by Roman law, true; it was imposed by the Holy Spirit and the apostles’ authority.
But it was 100 % communal living, exactly as written.

Early church history (Jerusalem community until ~AD 60) confirms: they really did live that way.
Calling it “voluntary sharing, not a commune” is just re-branding what the Bible itself describes as ἅπαντα κοινά — “all things common.”

So yes, the early church absolutely did live in a commune.

 

[Mink57]

Read Acts again, carefully:

Acts 4:32–35 (KJV)
“All the believers were one in heart and mind. No one claimed that any of their possessions was his own, but they shared everything they had […] And God’s grace was so powerfully at work in them all that there were no needy persons among them. For from time to time those who owned land or houses sold them, brought the money from the sales and put it at the apostles’ feet, and it was distributed to anyone who had need.”

Acts 2:44–45 (KJV)
“All the believers were together and had all things common; and sold their possessions and goods, and parted them to all men, as every man had need.”

That is the literal definition of a commune: private property voluntarily liquidated, everything held in common, distribution strictly according to need, no one keeping surplus.

It wasn’t imposed by Roman law, true; it was imposed by the Holy Spirit and the apostles’ authority.
But it was 100 % communal living, exactly as written.

Early church history (Jerusalem community until ~AD 60) confirms: they really did live that way.
Calling it “voluntary sharing, not a commune” is just re-branding what the Bible itself describes as ἅπαντα κοινά — “all things common.”

So yes, the early church absolutely did live in a commune.

And if so, how long did that last?

 

[Chrysostomos]

@Mink57 @Lizbeth @JohnDB @ScottA @GodsGrace @amigo de christo

I’m still working through all the replies in the thread, but while I do, here’s a living, breathing, successful example of socialism/communal life for you:

A kibbutz (קִבּוּץ) is a voluntary agricultural commune in Israel — pure communism in miniature:

- All land, machinery, and houses are collective property
- All production belongs to the community
- No salaries: everyone receives according to need (food, housing, clothing, children’s education, healthcare, even pocket money — from the common pool)
- Children often slept in communal children’s houses, not with parents
- Decisions by general assembly (direct democracy)
- Work assigned by rota, regardless of individual output

The classic kibbutzim (1920s–1980s) were actually more communist than a Soviet kolkhoz: in a kolkhoz you at least had your private garden plot; in a kibbutz even your toothbrush technically belonged to the community.

Today ~250 kibbutzim still exist in Israel; 80–100 of them retain the traditional communal system almost fully.

And here’s the kicker: fertility in the classic kibbutzim has always been higher than the Israeli average — 3–4 children per woman vs. 2.9–3.1 nationally.

An inconvenient fact for everyone screaming “communism = inevitable failure

P.S. I’m eagerly awaiting the antisemitic replies explaining that this is all evil, doesn’t really work, and they’re satanists going against God’s will.

 

[Chrysostomos]

Just to let you know that I DID read the above replies.
Members are not responding to you because YOU do not respond to THEM.
You're not paying attention to what the replies are.
You're a mad person, lashing out at everyone.

So later you’ll probably tell me you never called me “a mad person”, right?
That’s exactly how it always goes.I could just as easily say “all of you are attacking me and ganging up on me”, but I’m not going to do that. Why? Because, unlike some people here, I’m an adult. I fully understand that no one is obliged to agree with me.

People are allowed to have their own views, they can argue, bring evidence, show me where I’m wrong or where I don’t know something — that’s perfectly normal.When someone pushes back and explains why they think I’m seriously mistaken, I don’t lose my mind, I don’t threaten to get anyone banned, and I don’t announce that I’m going to ignore them from now on. That kind of reaction is childish, and I’m not interested in behaving like a kid.

And I did not label you what you have listed.
You might not comprehend English well.
I said you SOUND like an atheist.

Really? So let’s go through your list again:Muslim
Jihadist
Hateful atheist
Fake
Troll
“Part of the problem”
General cause of all Europe’s upheavals

Now you’re saying “I did not label you… I only said you sound like an atheist.”
Come on. In English, adding “you sound like” in front of an insult is the classic polite-British/American way of softening it so you can pretend you didn’t actually call someone that thing. It changes literally nothing about the intent or the insult itself.“You sound like a hateful atheist” is functionally identical to “you are a hateful atheist” — it’s just dressed up with a tiny fig leaf of plausible deniability. Everyone reading it understands exactly what you meant.So no, that little “sound like” doesn’t magically erase it from the list of things you’ve thrown at me in this thread.

I never called you PART OF THE PROBLEM.

Here’s your exact quote from #101 post:

You may not see the problem, because you may be part of it.

That was in the middle of you talking about migrants being “the problem” in Europe.

And I never said you're part of Europe's upheaval.

You’re doing it again.You wrote, literally:

Migrants are the CAUSE for the upheavel in life in, at least, the countries I'm familiar with.

I had already told you, several times, that I am a migrant in the EU myself.
You didn’t say “illegal migrants,” you didn’t say “some migrants,” you didn’t say “everyone except you.”
You said “migrants” — full stop.So when you declare that “migrants are the cause” of Europe’s upheaval, yes, that very much includes me. There’s no exemption clause you added for the “nice legal ones.” You painted with a massive brush, and I’m standing right in the middle of the paint.That’s exactly why I put “general cause of all Europe’s upheavals” on the list — because that’s precisely what you wrote, right after I had openly identified myself as a migrant.Own your words. The whole sentence is still there for everyone to read.

I SAID that it sounds like you entered legally - so no problem.

Let’s get the timeline straight, because the order matters.Post #100 (your words):
“Migrants are the CAUSE for the upheavel in life in, at least, the countries I'm familiar with.”
Post #101 (still you, one post later):
“How nice that you entered legally.… You may not see the problem, because you may be part of it.”

So first you declared that migrants in general are the cause of Europe’s upheaval, and literally in the next breath — after I had already told you I’m a migrant — you said I might be “part of it,” but hey, at least I entered legally.

And, just to clarify for those reading along...
I SAID IMMIGRATION IS A BIG PROBLEM and I explained why.

I NEVER stated that EVERY migrant is a problem.

And I NEVER said anything about any Ukrainian nurses.

You said (post #100):
“Migrants are the CAUSE for the upheaval in life in, at least, the countries I’m familiar with.”
→ No “some,” no “illegal,” no “many,” no exceptions. Just “migrants are the cause.” Full stop.

Now you’re claiming you “never stated that EVERY migrant is a problem.”
Sorry, but when you say “migrants are the cause” with zero qualifiers, that is exactly what you stated. English doesn’t come with invisible asterisks.
And about Ukrainian nurses:
I brought them up as an example of legal, needed migrant workers. You never mentioned them specifically, true — but you also never carved out any exception for needed healthcare workers from the countries you’re familiar with. Your blanket statement covered them too.

You said “immigration is a big problem” and “migrants are the cause” without any exclusions.
When someone points out that this sweeping statement also hits millions of legal, tax-paying, life-saving workers, suddenly it becomes “I never said EVERY migrant.”That’s not clarification. That’s retroactive damage control.Your original words are still there, unedited, in black and white. Everyone can read them and decide for themselves.

 

[Chrysostomos]

Nope....
Consider Abraham....AKA: God's friend.

He created the spice trade route and became filthy rich because of it. He was also entitled as King of the Hebrews. The word "Hebrew" at that time meant literally "homeless and worthless bum". These were people purchased in the slave market and made to work for Abraham on his spice trade route. These slaves had been kicked out of their families for completely ignoring or not doing their assigned duties within their families. These slaves were not rich. They worked for food and clothing only while Abraham became exceedingly wealthy.

And Abraham (a capitalist) was God's Friend. He dealt in spices. It wasn't communal living. It wasn't a situation where everyone was equal.

And some of the slaves were turned out into the wilderness desert to die when they did not produce or caused strife. Hagar found out the hard way on this.

Mate, that’s 3,500–4,000 years before the word “capitalism”, wage labour, or anything even remotely resembling a market economy even existed. Abraham was a Bronze Age tribal patriarch who measured wealth in sheep and slaves, not a 19th-century factory owner. Calling that “capitalism” is like calling the invention of the wheel “Uber”. Total anachronistic nonsense.

 

[ScottA]

@Mink57 @Lizbeth @JohnDB @ScottA @GodsGrace @amigo de christo

I’m still working through all the replies in the thread, but while I do, here’s a living, breathing, successful example of socialism/communal life for you:

A kibbutz (קִבּוּץ) is a voluntary agricultural commune in Israel — pure communism in miniature:

- All land, machinery, and houses are collective property
- All production belongs to the community
- No salaries: everyone receives according to need (food, housing, clothing, children’s education, healthcare, even pocket money — from the common pool)
- Children often slept in communal children’s houses, not with parents
- Decisions by general assembly (direct democracy)
- Work assigned by rota, regardless of individual output

The classic kibbutzim (1920s–1980s) were actually more communist than a Soviet kolkhoz: in a kolkhoz you at least had your private garden plot; in a kibbutz even your toothbrush technically belonged to the community.

Today ~250 kibbutzim still exist in Israel; 80–100 of them retain the traditional communal system almost fully.

And here’s the kicker: fertility in the classic kibbutzim has always been higher than the Israeli average — 3–4 children per woman vs. 2.9–3.1 nationally.

An inconvenient fact for everyone screaming “communism = inevitable failure

P.S. I’m eagerly awaiting the antisemitic replies explaining that this is all evil, doesn’t really work, and they’re satanists going against God’s will.

History shows the general failure of socialism or communal life. Noting the exceptions is just foolish. The same could be said of crime families, etc. And most of us have learned the lesson of repeating the failures of history.

It's not that there aren't some good practices to be gleamed from socialism or communal life. But there is a line not to be crossed, that at this point in world history--we should all know better than to cross.

 

[JohnDB]

I never agreed to work for low wages. I was paid exactly the same rate as local German specialists. The difference is that I accepted overtime work that native Europeans refused. That’s why I worked more than they did and earned more than they did. For locals it’s easy to say no — they’re at home, they have permanent residence, and if they get fired they’ll find another job tomorrow. For me every 2-3 years the visa can simply not be renewed, so I have much less certainty about tomorrow. That’s why I push harder and save more for a rainy day.

And your “original sin” argument is the classic American Calvinist trick: you take a real material crisis (children have become unaffordable) and turn it into the victim’s personal moral defect — “you wanted more than God intended, sinner.”
It’s exactly the same as saying “she was asking for it because she wore a short skirt.”

No.
Wanting a decent wage, education, and children who don’t die at age five is not original sin.

So stop blaming people for “original sin” just because they refuse to raise families in poverty.
The real sin belongs to the system that made a family the most expensive luxury on earth.
And that sin is not ours.

So you license your self imposed curse and pain but then want to Blame everyone except yourself?

You could have stayed in your home nation the entire time. After all....that is where God put you. Why did you leave YOUR HOME?

We, who are natives in our home country graciously allow you work (which actually lowers wages for the natives) but then you whine? Biting the hand literally feeding you?

Go home and stay home. It's that simple.
Don't worry yourself with trying to get ahead or be rich. Don't concern yourself with trying to provide a better future for your children....after all it's all poison as far as you care.

Europeans elect their Goverments that suit their majority of citizens. Immigrants are given zero voice....BECAUSE ITS NOT THEIRS. They have a home.

I decorate and furnish my home to suit me....not YOU.
Uou don't like what I've made for dinner....you know where the door is....don't let it hit you on the way out.

 

[Chrysostomos]

This (above) reveals you completely: Your focus is totally worldly, and mammon.

Contrary to all that, I gave you the real reason things are the way they are, how you are wrong, and how God's plan for this world is completely opposite of what you advocate. It's anti-God.

And that is enough. I will not entertain you now squirming as you face God and His reality. Blaming me or anyone else changes nothing. And yes, "it's all here on record."

Demography isn’t about money. It’s about children.
And children are not ‘mammon’; they are God’s gift and our future.

A system that turns God’s gift into a crushing financial burden is the one that is truly anti-God, because it is anti-life and anti-future.

And you call me ‘worldly’ and ‘mammon-obsessed’…
for asking you how much it costs to have a baby in his country?

That has to be the strangest inversion of Scripture I’ve heard in years.

Here’s what Scripture actually says:
“But if anyone does not provide for his own, and especially for those of his household, he has denied the faith and is worse than an unbeliever.” (1 Timothy 5:8 ESV)

It looks like you’ve already denied the faith and become worse than an unbeliever.

 

[Chrysostomos]

Then you have problem with comprehension.

No, I don’t have any comprehension problems.

You didn't say a single word on the actual topic.
Everything you wrote is pure off-topic noise and personal attacks.

 

[ScottA]

Here’s what Scripture actually says:
“But if anyone does not provide for his own, and especially for those of his household, he has denied the faith and is worse than an unbeliever.” (1 Timothy 5:8 ESV)

It looks like you’ve already denied the faith and become worse than an unbeliever.

Speak for yourself. You are lying about me. Shall I report you for not abiding by community rules?

 

[ScottA]

No, I don’t have any comprehension problems.

You didn't say a single word on the actual topic.
Everything you wrote is pure off-topic noise and personal attacks.

More LIES.

 

[Chrysostomos]

Squirm, squirm.

Squirm?
No need.The Bible is crystal-clear:
Jubilee = total debt cancellation + land redistribution (Lev 25)
Usury forbidden (Ex 22:25, Deut 23:19–20, Ezek 18:13)
Land belongs to God, not private speculators (Lev 25:23)
Hoarding while others starve = sin (Prov 21:13, James 5:1–6)
Private property in the early church: none; all things common (Acts 4:32–35)
“Profit” never praised once; greed condemned on every page.

Capitalism = perpetual debt, land monopoly, wage labour without limits, and the rich getting richer while the poor get crushed.

That system is explicitly cursed by God from Genesis to Revelation.So no squirming here.
Just Solo Scripture.
Plain, direct, and 100 % anti-capitalist.

 

[ScottA]

“Profit” never praised once;

Not true. Not biblical. Anti-Christ. Nothing but a convenient oversight on your part.

“Then he who had received the one talent came and said, ‘Lord, I knew you to be a hard man, reaping where you have not sown, and gathering where you have not scattered seed. 25 And I was afraid, and went and hid your talent in the ground. Look, there you have what is yours.’​

26 “But his lord answered and said to him, ‘You wicked and lazy servant, you knew that I reap where I have not sown, and gather where I have not scattered seed. 27 So you ought to have deposited my money with the bankers, and at my coming I would have received back my own with interest. 28 So take the talent from him, and give it to him who has ten talents." Matthew 25:24-28​

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"But these are the ones sown on good ground, those who hear the word, accept it, and bear fruit: some thirtyfold, some sixty, and some a hundred.” Mark 4:20​

 

[Chrysostomos]

Sadly the reason they beg for ukrainians
IS because these western socities have no idea how to work , they only whine and complain and sit on their phones
for hours . Plus , the birth rate . Look around . How can one person plus another person who bring at most
one child into the world be even sustaining population . ITs dropping . They do not give a rip .
These people , these elites , THEY WANT a very small population .
One they can control and just enough folks to praise them as the gods they THINK they are .
Would you like to know
the one solid , the only real reason this w hole world grows in confusion and chaos .
Shunning the one true biblical GOD and CHRIST , and worse when sold out churches do it
AINT BRINGING a blessing but ONLY A CURSE .
And allow the one trick pony one more word , Ecumenial interfaith IS OF ANTI CHRIST .
but just in case many are WORLDY centered , just let me say IT CAME OF THE MOST PROGRESSIVE liberal
minds to ever sit the throne. WE BEEN DUPED .

The real-world example of the Koreas completely dismantles the "elites want depopulation" theory.

If this were a capitalist strategy, it would be a historic miscalculation. Look at the data:

North Korea: Fertility rate was for a long time above replacement level. It's now 1.8—low, but not catastrophic.
South Korea: Fertility rate is 0.7, one of the lowest in the world. This isn't a managed decline; it's a collapse.

So, the brilliant capitalist planners have supposedly engineered a situation where their own population, economy, and culture will wither away within a few generations. Meanwhile, the isolated North maintained a much stronger demographic base.

This isn't a plan. It's a system failure. Hyper-capitalism, with its crushing costs of living and a culture that punishes families, has made having children unaffordable. The system isn't cleverly depopulating; it's consuming its own future because raising the next generation isn't "profitable."

They didn't miscalculate a plan—they are witnessing the unintended consequence of a system that values capital over people.

How does this glaring paradox on the Korean Peninsula align with your theory of population reduction?

 

[Chrysostomos]

Not true. Not biblical. Anti-Christ. Nothing but a convenient oversight on your part.

“Then he who had received the one talent came and said, ‘Lord, I knew you to be a hard man, reaping where you have not sown, and gathering where you have not scattered seed. 25 And I was afraid, and went and hid your talent in the ground. Look, there you have what is yours.’​

26 “But his lord answered and said to him, ‘You wicked and lazy servant, you knew that I reap where I have not sown, and gather where I have not scattered seed. 27 So you ought to have deposited my money with the bankers, and at my coming I would have received back my own with interest. 28 So take the talent from him, and give it to him who has ten talents." Matthew 25:24-28​

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"But these are the ones sown on good ground, those who hear the word, accept it, and bear fruit: some thirtyfold, some sixty, and some a hundred.” Mark 4:20​

To use this parable to justify a modern economic system built on self-interest and the accumulation of private wealth is to completely miss its spiritual meaning. The "profit" God desires is the multiplication of faith and righteousness on the earth.

This parable is about being a faithful servant with God's gifts. It is not a divine endorsement of capitalism.

And after this, will you still claim that I don't understand the "spiritual" meaning of your words?
You yourself interpret the parable of Matthew 25:24-28 as if it's about money and multiplying capital.