When exposed about the I AM statements, they suddenly learn how lame it is as a proof when you confront them.
Is God Magnanimous? - (as opposed to tyrannical)
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Hiddenthings
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They miss the lessons of Christ's teachings in that chapter because they approach it with bias, the same bias the religious elite had when he was revealing the truth to them.
Hiddenthings
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The Samaritans were a mixed people, combining different cultures and religions, as described in 2 Kings 17:32-33. This led to Jesus' statement in John 4:22, "You worship what you do not know" ...I could say the same to @shepherdsword
Antagonism continued through the time of Ezra (Ezra 4:9-10) and Nehemiah (Neh 2:19-20; 6:1).
Nehemiah expelled Manasseh, the grandson of Eliashib and son-in-law of Sanballat, from the temple (Neh 13:28).
In response, Sanballat built a competing temple on Mount Gerizim (Antiquities 13:9:1).
The Samaritans taught that Abraham offered his son on Mount Gerizim and later met Melchizedek there.
The Pentateuch never specifically mentions Jerusalem as the chosen place of worship (Deut 12:5), but the Samaritans altered the text to support their own theories.
The Samaritans claimed to be descendants of Joseph through Ephraim and Manasseh (Antiquities 11:8:6). Jesus, however, referred to them as "strangers" in Luke 17:16, 18, calling them people of another race.
Their temple on Mount Gerizim was destroyed by John Hyrcanus in 129 BC (Antiquities 13:9:1).
This deep-seated animosity is reflected in John 4:9, where it's noted that "Jews have no dealings with Samaritans." The hostility was mutual between the two groups.
Your point about the theological differences is a double-edged sword. Jesus used the Samaritan in his parable to highlight the hostility between Jews and Samaritans, showing that love and compassion can transcend such divisions. At the same time, he rebuked the Samaritan woman for her people’s distortion of God’s Word, emphasizing the importance of worshiping in truth.
The Master's teaching is incredibly nuanced, and context is the key to unlocking deeper understanding.
Who is "withdrawing" I have been destroying both of your arguments for days....LOL
Hiddenthings
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The beliefs you hold have been shaped by lies, leading you to the misconception that an all-powerful God could die. This belief distorts both your understanding of God and of death, leaving you empty of true knowledge. It also diverts your attention from the work God accomplished in Christ to redeem both Christ himself and those who are in him. Your doctrines are far more misguided than those of the Samaritans, for they never distorted God into something He is not
Hiddenthings
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Quite the contrary, the beliefs I hold are the core tenets of Christianity...which you reject. I am not sure why you dare to wear the label "Christian" when you reject, in your heretical deception, the beliefs that set it apart.
Says the guy who doesn't even know who Jesus is. I take that, coming from you, as a complement.
Hiddenthings
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Your image of a God dying is certainly a paradox that has troubled theologians, philosophers, and everyday people for centuries. For many, it challenges traditional ideas of omnipotence, immortality, and divine purpose. Those who delve into the Word of God to seek its truth are able to engage in meaningful discussions on such matters, while those who are misinformed cling to their lifeboats, drifting aimlessly in the shifting tides of doctrine. When the truth is revealed to you, Shep, as I hope it one day will be, you'll look back at the scant knowledge you once held and regret not shedding the dogma sooner.
This is nothing but gaslighting. A VAST majority of Greek scholars hold to the deity of Christ. In fact, it's only fringe element cults with no in-depth understanding, that reject it. I have hope as well. I hope that one day you come to know the true Christ that created you and died for your sins. As of now, it a hiddenthing to you.
Blessings
Hiddenthings
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It's only gaslighting if you perceive it that way. Does it trouble you that the very principle you rely on hinges on placing your faith in Greek scholars?
Hiddenthings
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Consider your position thus far:
You claim to believe in a God who can die, and yet your doctrine and understanding are rooted in Greek philosophers.
Is this your Gospel?
You claim to believe in a God who can die, and yet your doctrine and understanding are rooted in Greek philosophers.
Is this your Gospel?
quietthinker
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You guys get your rocks off by relentlessly putting others down and elevating yourselves.
The spirit operating in these posts tells me about your wiring.
The spirit operating in these posts tells me about your wiring.
Hiddenthings
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Agree.
When I went to your post from my alerts, it was the only post on page 17.
I clicked show ignored content and the page filled up with a dozen more posts. - LOL
I was missing all the fun.
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Hiddenthings
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I think that was a pretty obvious attempt to take back control of the conversation, total fail on his part! It’s like a slow-moving train wreck in the making
quietthinker
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Hiddenthings
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@quietthinker I mean, did your disaster have a touch of class, or was it just a spectacular failure?
Hiddenthings
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You know, @quietthinker, this could be a monumental moment for you, perhaps the last time you ever resort to a 'slow-moving train' as a way of avoiding the weightier matters of the Gospel. Only time will tell.
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