WHY ISN'T THIS ANGEL ACCURSED?

[Doug]

And only one of the three angels preached the everlasting good news! The other two had different messages.

They are all one passage and all contributed a unified message

 

[Doug]

Sorry but there is no two ways to be saved- one for Jews and one for Gentiles.

All are saved by believing God but were given different content to believe at different times. In this dispensation both Jew and Gentile are saved by the cross, but you cant apply what was given Paul to what was given Peter and the apostles to believe

 

[Ronald Nolette]

The church in this dispensation was the body of Christ and was formed thru Paul. The church in Pentecost was added to, they were already formed and operating. They were formed by believing on the name of Jesus, by the preaching of Peter and the apostles. To be added to there had to be a church already established............
[Act 2:41 KJV] "Then they that gladly received his word were baptized: and the same day there were added [unto them] about three thousand souls."
[Act 2:47 KJV] "Praising God, and having favour with all the people. And the Lord added to the church daily such as should be saved."

Sorry, but there is no two churches, one by Peter and the Apostles and one by Paul. Paul added to the church in the Gentile lands. Ephesians 2, the church is Jew and Gentile in one body and that body began at Pentecost. Paul added to teh church not formed it.

 

[Ronald Nolette]

It was no secret it was in the prophets but they didnt know the meaning of his death and resurrection nor what it would accomplish

And because it is not explicitly written in Scripture in Acts 2-7 you think Peter did not preach it. At least that what you seem to say in your words.

 

[Ronald Nolette]

They are all one passage and all contributed a unified message

It is one passage but it is three different messages. You do not have the authority to reinterpret Scripture. Every message of Scripture is unified ultimately, but they are different messages for differing times and peoples and events. C'mon man I know you are smarter than this.

 

[Ronald Nolette]

All are saved by believing God but were given different content to believe at different times. In this dispensation both Jew and Gentile are saved by the cross, but you cant apply what was given Paul to what was given Peter and the apostles to believe

They preached teh same gospel of salvation. Belief in teh death, burial and resurrection of Jesus to be saved. However How one lives as a Christian differs between Jew and Gentile and that is the difference Peter and Paul focused on.

 

[quietthinker]

[Revelation 14:6 KJV] "And I saw another angel fly in the midst of heaven, having the everlasting gospel to preach unto them that dwell on the earth, and to every nation, and kindred, and tongue, and people," [Revelation 14:7 KJV] "Saying with a loud voice, Fear God, and give glory to him; for the hour of his judgment is come: and worship him that made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and the fountains of waters."...........Those that say we the church, the body of Christ, will go through the tribulation would have to address this verse. Here we have an angel preaching the everlasting gospel. This gospel is stated fully and completely in verse 7 above.

Here in Galatians, Paul says if an angel preaches another gospel that angel would be accursed........[Galatians 1:8 KJV] "But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed." [Galatians 1:9 KJV] "As we said before, so say I now again, If any [man] preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed."............The saints in the body of Christ have received the gospel Paul preached to them. If they are in the tribulation, they would be given the everlasting gospel by the angel, and as a result, the angel would be accursed.
[Revelation 14:6 KJV] "And I saw another angel fly in the midst of heaven, having the everlasting gospel to preach unto them that dwell on the earth, and to every nation, and kindred, and tongue, and people," [Revelation 14:7 KJV] "Saying with a loud voice, Fear God, and give glory to him; for the hour of his judgment is come: and worship him that made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and the fountains of waters."...........Those that say we the church, the body of Christ, will go through the tribulation would have to address this verse. Here we have an angel preaching the everlasting gospel. This gospel is stated fully and completely in verse 7 above.

Here in Galatians, Paul says if an angel preaches another gospel that angel would be accursed........[Galatians 1:8 KJV] "But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed." [Galatians 1:9 KJV] "As we said before, so say I now again, If any [man] preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed."............The saints in the body of Christ have received the gospel Paul preached to them. If they are in the tribulation, they would be given the everlasting gospel by the angel, and as a result, the angel would be accursed. The angel is not said to be accursed, and therefore is not preaching another gospel to the body of Christ because the body of Christ is not in the tribulation.

Whew!!

 

[Doug]

And because it is not explicitly written in Scripture in Acts 2-7 you think Peter did not preach it. At least that what you seem to say in your words.

We can only go by what was preached by Jesus and the twelve. If scripture doesnt record Peter preaching it is speculation to say they did

 

[Doug]

They preached teh same gospel of salvation. Belief in teh death, burial and resurrection of Jesus to be saved. However How one lives as a Christian differs between Jew and Gentile and that is the difference Peter and Paul focused on.

That they all preached the cross for salvation in the gospels and Acts is your belief unsupported by any verses

 

[Ronald Nolette]

We can only go by what was preached by Jesus and the twelve. If scripture doesnt record Peter preaching it is speculation to say they did

You strain at gnats to swallow camels.

So I guess you believe jesus never ate food either. There is not one instance other than the last supper that declares Jesus ate while He was alive.

 

[Ronald Nolette]

That they all preached the cross for salvation in the gospels and Acts is your belief unsupported by any verses

I never said the gospels. That is you doing wht you normally do. Making assumptions.

 

[Doug]

You strain at gnats to swallow camels.

So I guess you believe jesus never ate food either. There is not one instance other than the last supper that declares Jesus ate while He was alive.

You are wrong about eating........
[Mar 11:12 KJV] "And on the morrow, when they were come from Bethany, he was hungry:"
[Mar 11:13 KJV] "And seeing a fig tree afar off having leaves, he came, if haply he might find any thing thereon: and when he came to it, he found nothing but leaves; for the time of figs was not [yet]."

That is not the point you cant say something without scriptural support

 

[Doug]

I never said the gospels. That is you doing wht you normally do. Making assumptions.

It is irrelevant whether you did or didnt say anything about the gospels I am asserting that Peter never preached the cross for salvation, it cant be found in the gospels or acts
Show me a verse anywhere where Peter preached the cross for salvation for all

 

[Ronald Nolette]

You are wrong about eating........
[Mar 11:12 KJV] "And on the morrow, when they were come from Bethany, he was hungry:"
[Mar 11:13 KJV] "And seeing a fig tree afar off having leaves, he came, if haply he might find any thing thereon: and when he came to it, he found nothing but leaves; for the time of figs was not [yet]."

That is not the point you cant say something without scriptural support

So show me where he ate in this passage.

 

[Ronald Nolette]

It is irrelevant whether you did or didnt say anything about the gospels I am asserting that Peter never preached the cross for salvation, it cant be found in the gospels or acts
Show me a verse anywhere where Peter preached the cross for salvation for all

Acts 2
22 Ye men of Israel, hear these words; Jesus of Nazareth, a man approved of God among you by miracles and wonders and signs, which God did by him in the midst of you, as ye yourselves also know:

23 Him, being delivered by the determinate counsel and foreknowledge of God, ye have taken, and by wicked hands have crucified and slain:

24 Whom God hath raised up, having loosed the pains of death: because it was not possible that he should be holden of it.

25 For David speaketh concerning him, I foresaw the Lord always before my face, for he is on my right hand, that I should not be moved:

26 Therefore did my heart rejoice, and my tongue was glad; moreover also my flesh shall rest in hope:

27 Because thou wilt not leave my soul in hell, neither wilt thou suffer thine Holy One to see corruption.

28 Thou hast made known to me the ways of life; thou shalt make me full of joy with thy countenance.

29 Men and brethren, let me freely speak unto you of the patriarch David, that he is both dead and buried, and his sepulchre is with us unto this day.

30 Therefore being a prophet, and knowing that God had sworn with an oath to him, that of the fruit of his loins, according to the flesh, he would raise up Christ to sit on his throne;

31 He seeing this before spake of the resurrection of Christ, that his soul was not left in hell, neither his flesh did see corruption.

32 This Jesus hath God raised up, whereof we all are witnesses.

33 Therefore being by the right hand of God exalted, and having received of the Father the promise of the Holy Ghost, he hath shed forth this, which ye now see and hear.

34 For David is not ascended into the heavens: but he saith himself, The Lord said unto my Lord, Sit thou on my right hand,

35 Until I make thy foes thy footstool.

36 Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that God hath made the same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both Lord and Christ.

Peter preached jesus crucified and risen! To tens of thousands in Jerusalem shortly after Jesus died and rose!!!!!!

 

[Ronald Nolette]

It is irrelevant whether you did or didnt say anything about the gospels I am asserting that Peter never preached the cross for salvation, it cant be found in the gospels or acts
Show me a verse anywhere where Peter preached the cross for salvation for all

Acts 3:26

King James Version

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26 Unto you first God, having raised up his Son Jesus, sent him to bless you, in turning away every one of you from his iniquities

Acts 4:7-12

King James Version

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7 And when they had set them in the midst, they asked, By what power, or by what name, have ye done this?
8 Then Peter, filled with the Holy Ghost, said unto them, Ye rulers of the people, and elders of Israel,
9 If we this day be examined of the good deed done to the impotent man, by what means he is made whole;
10 Be it known unto you all, and to all the people of Israel, that by the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, whom ye crucified, whom God raised from the dead, even by him doth this man stand here before you whole.
11 This is the stone which was set at nought of you builders, which is become the head of the corner.
12 Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.

All these knew Jesus was crucified- this is the same gospel as Pauls. Just presenjted in a way gifferent than presented to teh Gentiles who knew not about the crucifixion of Jesus like the Jews did.

 

[Doug]

Acts 2
22 Ye men of Israel, hear these words; Jesus of Nazareth, a man approved of God among you by miracles and wonders and signs, which God did by him in the midst of you, as ye yourselves also know:

23 Him, being delivered by the determinate counsel and foreknowledge of God, ye have taken, and by wicked hands have crucified and slain:

24 Whom God hath raised up, having loosed the pains of death: because it was not possible that he should be holden of it.

25 For David speaketh concerning him, I foresaw the Lord always before my face, for he is on my right hand, that I should not be moved:

26 Therefore did my heart rejoice, and my tongue was glad; moreover also my flesh shall rest in hope:

27 Because thou wilt not leave my soul in hell, neither wilt thou suffer thine Holy One to see corruption.

28 Thou hast made known to me the ways of life; thou shalt make me full of joy with thy countenance.

29 Men and brethren, let me freely speak unto you of the patriarch David, that he is both dead and buried, and his sepulchre is with us unto this day.

30 Therefore being a prophet, and knowing that God had sworn with an oath to him, that of the fruit of his loins, according to the flesh, he would raise up Christ to sit on his throne;

31 He seeing this before spake of the resurrection of Christ, that his soul was not left in hell, neither his flesh did see corruption.

32 This Jesus hath God raised up, whereof we all are witnesses.

33 Therefore being by the right hand of God exalted, and having received of the Father the promise of the Holy Ghost, he hath shed forth this, which ye now see and hear.

34 For David is not ascended into the heavens: but he saith himself, The Lord said unto my Lord, Sit thou on my right hand,

35 Until I make thy foes thy footstool.

36 Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that God hath made the same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both Lord and Christ.

Peter preached jesus crucified and risen! To tens of thousands in Jerusalem shortly after Jesus died and rose!!!!!!

Yes he did, that was in the OT prophets, but he didnt preach the death and resurrection for salvation for all

[Act 2:23 KJV] "Him, being delivered by the determinate counsel and foreknowledge of God, ye have taken, and by wicked hands have crucified and slain:".............Peter didnt preach Christ died for our sins, but he condemned Israel for crucifying him

[Act 2:30 KJV] "Therefore being a prophet, and knowing that God had sworn with an oath to him, that of the fruit of his loins, according to the flesh, he would raise up Christ to sit on his throne;"...........Peter didnt preach Jesus rose for our justication, he preached he rose to sit on David's throne in the millennial kingdom

 

[Doug]

Acts 3:26​

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King James Version​

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26 Unto you first God, having raised up his Son Jesus, sent him to bless you, in turning away every one of you from his iniquities

Acts 4:7-12​

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King James Version​

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7 And when they had set them in the midst, they asked, By what power, or by what name, have ye done this?
8 Then Peter, filled with the Holy Ghost, said unto them, Ye rulers of the people, and elders of Israel,
9 If we this day be examined of the good deed done to the impotent man, by what means he is made whole;
10 Be it known unto you all, and to all the people of Israel, that by the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, whom ye crucified, whom God raised from the dead, even by him doth this man stand here before you whole.
11 This is the stone which was set at nought of you builders, which is become the head of the corner.
12 Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.

All these knew Jesus was crucified- this is the same gospel as Pauls. Just presenjted in a way gifferent than presented to teh Gentiles who knew not about the crucifixion of Jesus like the Jews did.

Paul didnt just preach that Jesus was crucified. He preached his death and resurrection for our salvation. If the gospel was preached a different way it would still need the same content; who couldnt understand saying Jesus died for your sins and rose for your justification. Saying the gospel was said a different way is just a way to make the gospel say what you want it to say and not what it says

 

[Ronald Nolette]

Yes he did, that was in the OT prophets, but he didnt preach the death and resurrection for salvation for all

[Act 2:23 KJV] "Him, being delivered by the determinate counsel and foreknowledge of God, ye have taken, and by wicked hands have crucified and slain:".............Peter didnt preach Christ died for our sins, but he condemned Israel for crucifying him

[Act 2:30 KJV] "Therefore being a prophet, and knowing that God had sworn with an oath to him, that of the fruit of his loins, according to the flesh, he would raise up Christ to sit on his throne;"...........Peter didnt preach Jesus rose for our justication, he preached he rose to sit on David's throne in the millennial kingdom

i AM DONE WITH YOU. yOU HAVE CREATED TWO GOSPELS THOUGH YOU SAY YOU DENY IT. hAVE THE LAST WORD. i AM FINISHED!

 

[shepherdsword]

i AM DONE WITH YOU. yOU HAVE CREATED TWO GOSPELS THOUGH YOU SAY YOU DENY IT. hAVE THE LAST WORD. i AM FINISHED!

No...don't finish. Challenge him every time he posts this stuff lest some drive by reader gets decieved.