Political v Legal

[Wrangler]

PART 1

I've been wanting to write this thread for a long time. A darkness has emerged in our country over the truth by prolific gaslighting. Claims of what is a threat "to our democracy" is actually a threat to the Deep State, the Administrative State, the bureaucratic elite. The go to tactic is to subsume the POLITICAL into LEGAL precedence and procedure.

The Attorney Andrew Branca refers to this judicial coup of our democracy as nearly ubiquitous acts by black robed, tyrannical inferior district courts - presuming power outside their jurisdiction, i.e., national injunctions. They presume the power of Congress in making law and the Executive in enforcing law. Any rationalization will do! He points out the Constitutional distinction between the POLITICAL and the LEGAL by the fact that Article I and Article II, Congress and the President are elected -- accountable to the people. The reason that Article III, Judges, are not elected is precisely because they are not supposed to be political but apolitical.

There are so many examples and it is noteworthy that on appeal, the judicial tyrants have lost 25-2 at the Supreme Court. I'll just provide 3 examples of the judicial coup attempting to subordinate the POLITICAL to the LEGAL. That is, it's not about how convincing the legal argument sounds but the Constitutional separation of powers regarding who decides that is at stake. Otherwise, there is no point to elections; the elites will decide everything. (A replay of the Andrew Jackson era.)

 

[Wrangler]

PART 2


1. Government Shutdown and SNAP Benefits

A fair reading of the Constitution is that Congress has the "power of the purse," the power and responsibility to tax and fund the government. (And the President may veto all bills by Congress). Somehow certain government programs have become immune to the consequences of government shutdown, which if one thinks about it, makes a "government shutdown" a misnomer. (These programs are the 3rd rail, Social Security and Medicare.)

In the latest shutdown, a 3rd government program was proposed to be immune to the shutdown, SNAP, formerly called food stamps. This is a quintessential POLITICAL matter. Yet, a black robed, tyrannical inferior district court felt it their place to order the POTUS to "find" the funds for the program, which is a metaphysical impossibility. There was no money. While there were national protests against kings, the court was ordering the Executive to act like a king! Do you have eyes to see?

2. Voting Districts

One can hardly envision a more obvious POLITICAL decision than how a State will divide up its territory into representative districts. So, not only is it not for the judiciary to decide, it's not for the federal judiciary to decide!

A recent black robed, tyrannical inferior district court felt if race is NOT used in redistricting in Texas, that is racist and a violation of the Voting Rights Act. This subterfuge is supposed to have the authority of truth and justice that is respected? Watch this vid for more details.

3. Birth Right Citizenship

It's hard to imagine what is more the POLITICAL province of a sovereign nation than to decide its criteria for what qualifies as a citizen, especially regarding those not born in that country, i.e., immigration and naturalization. A recent black robed, tyrannical inferior district court felt the matter was settled in LEGAL precedent. The relevant Constitutional provision is the 14th Amendment stemming from emancipating slaves:

All persons born or naturalized in the United States,​

and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are​

citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. ​

The gaslighting is to pretend the Amendment does not have the clause in between the commas. There was a Supreme Court case in 1888 that decided the matter among those legally domiciled in the US, i.e., "subject to the jurisdiction." ("Domiciled" is the term the court used to acknowledge at least one parent was legally in the US.) In other words, there is no case that addresses millions of illegal invaders who have children here.

Virtually no country on Earth has birth right citizenship and there is a legal principle that there can be no benefit deriving from fraud and this scenario, entering the country illegally and deriving benefits outside the LEGAL process is about as fraudulent as it gets. This vid states this Supreme Court case will be the most consequential in either of Trump's 2 terms as it removes a major incentive for the invaders illegally trespassing.

To be clear, the case will address the gaslighting that people born here from illegal entry by the parents are citizens and it is a LEGALLY settled matter. Here is where you know the darkness has overtaken our country; to pretend LEGAL decisions resolve POLITICAL disputes; POLITICAL matters are never settled but always open to change as circumstances change. As Governor Huckabee is fond of saying, the Supreme Court is not the Supreme Being. Read The Rights of Man by Thomas Paine. Watch this vid for more details, where the author says this is necessary to stop the "3rd-worlding of America."

These 3 topics - funding SNAP during government shutdown, re-districting and birth right citizenship - reveal changing circumstances AND judicial philosophy in the public square. A government shutdown is a change from funded normally. Re-districting is from a change in population.

And the judicial philosophy at stake regarding birth right citizenship is viewing the law (and constitution) as a living document to be re-interpreted at the whim of black robed, tyrannical inferior district courts, favored by the POLITICAL Left, or the law (and constitution) mean what it meant at the time it was made into law, favored by the POLITICAL Right. There is a clause in the 14A, which obviously excludes invaders - and their children - from citizenship. Such gaslighting is what allows churches to re-interpet Bible passages on the sin of the LGBTQ, no?

 

[David in NJ]

PART 1

I've been wanting to write this thread for a long time. A darkness has emerged in our country over the truth by prolific gaslighting. Claims of what is a threat "to our democracy" is actually a threat to the Deep State, the Administrative State, the bureaucratic elite. The go to tactic is to subsume the POLITICAL into LEGAL precedence and procedure.

The Attorney Andrew Branca refers to this judicial coup of our democracy as nearly ubiquitous acts by black robed, tyrannical inferior district courts - presuming power outside their jurisdiction, i.e., national injunctions. They presume the power of Congress in making law and the Executive in enforcing law. Any rationalization will do! He points out the Constitutional distinction between the POLITICAL and the LEGAL by the fact that Article I and Article II, Congress and the President are elected -- accountable to the people. The reason that Article III, Judges, are not elected is precisely because they are not supposed to be political but apolitical.

There are so many examples and it is noteworthy that on appeal, the judicial tyrants have lost 25-2 at the Supreme Court. I'll just provide 3 examples of the judicial coup attempting to subordinate the POLITICAL to the LEGAL. That is, it's not about how convincing the legal argument sounds but the Constitutional separation of powers regarding who decides that is at stake. Otherwise, there is no point to elections; the elites will decide everything. (A replay of the Andrew Jackson era.)

Judges are political = period.

1 John 5:19 - ".........the whole world is under the control of the wicked one/Satan."

 

[David in NJ]

PART 2


1. Government Shutdown and SNAP Benefits

A fair reading of the Constitution is that Congress has the "power of the purse," the power and responsibility to tax and fund the government. (And the President may veto all bills by Congress). Somehow certain government programs have become immune to the consequences of government shutdown, which if one thinks about it, makes a "government shutdown" a misnomer. (These programs are the 3rd rail, Social Security and Medicare.)

In the latest shutdown, a 3rd government program was proposed to be immune to the shutdown, SNAP, formerly called food stamps. This is a quintessential POLITICAL matter. Yet, a black robed, tyrannical inferior district court felt it their place to order the POTUS to "find" the funds for the program, which is a metaphysical impossibility. There was no money. While there were national protests against kings, the court was ordering the Executive to act like a king! Do you have eyes to see?

2. Voting Districts

One can hardly envision a more obvious POLITICAL decision than how a State will divide up its territory into representative districts. So, not only is it not for the judiciary to decide, it's not for the federal judiciary to decide!

A recent black robed, tyrannical inferior district court felt if race is NOT used in redistricting in Texas, that is racist and a violation of the Voting Rights Act. This subterfuge is supposed to have the authority of truth and justice that is respected? Watch this vid for more details.

3. Birth Right Citizenship

It's hard to imagine what is more the POLITICAL province of a sovereign nation than to decide its criteria for what qualifies as a citizen, especially regarding those not born in that country, i.e., immigration and naturalization. A recent black robed, tyrannical inferior district court felt the matter was settled in LEGAL precedent. The relevant Constitutional provision is the 14th Amendment stemming from emancipating slaves:

All persons born or naturalized in the United States,​

and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are​

citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. ​

The gaslighting is to pretend the Amendment does not have the clause in between the commas. There was a Supreme Court case in 1888 that decided the matter among those legally domiciled in the US, i.e., "subject to the jurisdiction." ("Domiciled" is the term the court used to acknowledge at least one parent was legally in the US.) In other words, there is no case that addresses millions of illegal invaders who have children here.

Virtually no country on Earth has birth right citizenship and there is a legal principle that there can be no benefit deriving from fraud and this scenario, entering the country illegally and deriving benefits outside the LEGAL process is about as fraudulent as it gets. This vid states this Supreme Court case will be the most consequential in either of Trump's 2 terms as it removes a major incentive for the invaders illegally trespassing.

To be clear, the case will address the gaslighting that people born here from illegal entry by the parents are citizens and it is a LEGALLY settled matter. Here is where you know the darkness has overtaken our country; to pretend LEGAL decisions resolve POLITICAL disputes; POLITICAL matters are never settled but always open to change as circumstances change. RAs Governor Huckabee is fond of saying, the Supreme Court is not the Supreme Being. Read The Rights of Man by Thomas Paine. Watch this vid for more details, where the author says this is necessary to stop the "3rd-worlding of America."

These 3 topics - funding SNAP during government shutdown, re-districting and birth right citizenship - reveal changing circumstances AND judicial philosophy in the public square. A government shutdown is a change from funded normally. Re-districting is from a change in population.

And the judicial philosophy at stake regarding birth right citizenship is viewing the law (and constitution) as a living document to be re-interpreted at the whim of black robed, tyrannical inferior district courts, favored by the POLITICAL Left, or the law (and constitution) mean what it meant at the time it was made into law, favored by the POLITICAL Right. There is a clause in the 14A, which obviously excludes invaders - and their children - from citizenship. Such gaslighting is what allows churches to re-interpet Bible passages on the sin of the LGBTQ, no?

BOTH sides fight for power = votes/electorates is Power

Both sides have been shifting districts and lines in their favor

Biden, thru 'Dominion technologies' stole the 2020 Election = CLEAR as DAY on national TV

BOTH sides are under the power of satan.

 

[amigo de christo]

BOTH sides fight for power = votes/electorates is Power

Both sides have been shifting districts and lines in their favor

Biden, thru 'Dominion technologies' stole the 2020 Election = CLEAR as DAY on national TV

BOTH sides are under the power of satan.

David , its all over tucker and others now .
The agenda . I knew it was .
They gonna praise now even the president of el salvador .
WHO did do SOME GOOD things . NO doubt about it .
BUT GUESS what he beleives .
He is not necessarly catholic , he does at times speak of some christain things .
But His daddy was an imam . HE actually beleives GOD to be in all the religoins .
THIS WAS THE PLAN my friend .
And wrangler and others thought i was nuts all along when i so warned and so warned
and so warned that the agenda was BEING DONE BY BOTH SIDES
and that even trump , vance , tucker and others glen beck
THEY ALL IN ON IT .
the goal of the UN
WAS A ONE WORLD RELIGOIN . and friend THEY ABOUT GOT IT .

 

[amigo de christo]

BOTH sides fight for power = votes/electorates is Power

Both sides have been shifting districts and lines in their favor

Biden, thru 'Dominion technologies' stole the 2020 Election = CLEAR as DAY on national TV

BOTH sides are under the power of satan.

BOTH . yep . and when i say BOTH , that do include trump and vance , tucker , and the nar
A ONE WORLD RELIGOIN was always the goal
that would serve the agenda of what all believed was OF GOD .
SOON WE WILL SEE HE WHO BY PEACE DESTROYS MANY lead this world
right to the very day OF ITS OWN DESTRUC TION BY GOD ALL MIGHTY AND THE LAMB .
i tried , david i tried to warn them all . I was not the monster . I was not the hater
THE DEVIL IS and he is running them all now right to his own plan .

 

[amigo de christo]

the problem with the nar realm
is they cannot see t heir own leaders DO ITS BIDDING
And though they speak against it , HEED THEM NOT .
THEY are decieving us all . But as i said , YET NOT ME FIRST , cursed is the man whose hope was in man . YA GOING DOWN .
we should have trusted IN GOD , not man . OUR KINGDOM was heavenly , NOT EARTHEN .
this world gonna pay the ultimate price now .
LET GOD BE TRUE but every man a liar
has now become to this generation , LET MY MAN BE T RUE , AND GOD A LIAR . i did what i could .
NO one h ere on this site
can blame me . I DID what i could no matter how hated i was by both sides for doing so . I POINTED ONLY TO JESUS .

 

[Wrangler]

Judges are political = period.

Agreed. If it weren't so, judicial appointments would not be so hotly contested.

1 John 5:19 - ".........the whole world is under the control of the wicked one/Satan."

Yet, God's plan for his Creation unfolds as he wills.

And wrangler and others thought i was nuts all along

No comment about the present tense.

when i say BOTH , that do include trump and vance , tucker , and the nar

Huh? There is no side of any political debate more aligned with God's word and another side less aligned?

A ONE WORLD RELIGOIN was always the goal

That being a secular world religion.

 

[Wrangler]

Other example is the presumption of due process required for:

1. Those illegal Aliens who already have deportation orders.
2. Enemies in war, including narco-terrorists and other terrorist gangs.
3. The Commander-in-Chief nationalizing the Guard AND deploying them.

 

[amigo de christo]

Agreed. If it weren't so, judicial appointments would not be so hotly contested.



Yet, God's plan for his Creation unfolds as he wills.



No comment about the present tense.



Huh? There is no side of any political debate more aligned with God's word and another side less aligned?


That being a secular world religion.

In reponse to your huh , there is NO side of any political debate more aligned with God s word and another side less aligned .
Both are decieved . it ma tters not which seems more decieved
i advise no man to follow ANY deception or decieved my freind .
I dont pick the lesser to two evils to follow .
I CHOOSE ONLY HE WHO IS WIHOUT SIN to follow . THAT WOULD BE G OD , CHRIST , THE SPIRIT .
leaven leavens my friend . EVEN a little leaven is bad to follow .
FOLLOW and TRUST , HOPE IN and CLING ONLY to GOD , TO CHRIST , to THE SPIRIT and TO HIS WORDS of truth in that bible .
Satan knows how to decieve both sides and how to fit in , in order to decieve . HE be like a chameleon .

 

[Wrangler]

To those who are clutching their pearls that Trump is using the military to kill people without due process, this is what the military does. Let’s examine history of other military operations where no declarations of war by Congress preceded the deadly acts.

Truman was not encumbered by litigation before dropping the bomb. Then there were the so-called police actions of Korea and Vietnam and Iraq 2003.

Trump sinks a few small drug cartel boats and articles of impeachment are drawn up against Secretary of War, Pete Hegseth. It goes to show the convenient fickleness in lawfare of relying on precedent!

 

[Reggie Belafonte]

Political Correct ?

Political Correctness ?

What does such truly mean ?

If one is in Power and under a Party, you must be correct to that Political Party's mantra.

Political Correctness however is a cunning System of the State ? created to be such key to dominance ? as was the case of Nazi Germany and all Communist Nations ! or all Socialist States, for such Ownes everyone in the State in fact !

That way if one is not totaly abiding under the Idolitry of the "Political Correct god", Then you become what is called, The Undesirables ! as H Clinton discribed such, or as Hitler and Stalin discribed such, as Enemys of the State !

The Political correctness is a game that Satanic Mob feeds Dupes to swallow so as to be owned by such a god !

Anyone who is a worthy Christian knows that Political Correctness is a outright Lie and a Deception !

Political ? what is correct about someting that is Political ? Nothing !
Being Political is not about being Correct at all in fact ! Correct about what ? Politics ? Haha. come now !

Lawfuly correct ? however.

Well the Law is based on a foundation of something !

But as W Churchill said, if you have a 10000 Laws you undermine the whole ?

So what we have seen is a Law and then such is added too for a reason ? but what reason ? people making a fuss over hysteria knee jerk reactions ? or well founded.

 

[Reggie Belafonte]

To those who are clutching their pearls that Trump is using the military to kill people without due process, this is what the military does. Let’s examine history of other military operations where no declarations of war by Congress preceded the deadly acts.

Truman was not encumbered by litigation before dropping the bomb. Then there were the so-called police actions of Korea and Vietnam and Iraq 2003.

Trump sinks a few small drug cartel boats and articles of impeachment are drawn up against Secretary of War, Pete Hegseth. It goes to show the convenient fickleness in lawfare of relying on precedent!

A do nothing Political Leadership is best for one who leads ? as the issue is not dealt with !
I have seen plenty of such in Power. who can live with feeding the people to the dogs in fact ! because they are feeding off the People themselves ! no doubt ! It's like a Ship that is lost it's way. or will or has taken on to much water and may sink ? but hey do not bother to pump that water out, because that would be taking action!

 

[Wrangler]

Political Correctness ?

I'm talking about subverting what is political, not embracing PC.

I came across more gaslighting today. The LEGAL matter is couched as expanding executive power at the expense of the legislature regarding firing people in the Executive branch; actually the reverse is the case.

Independent agency or democracy. Pick One.