What's your take on the Catholic mystics (Madame Guyon, Michael Molinos, St John of the cross

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I read Hildegard of Bingen's biography and life and some parts of visions. I saw no mention of Jesus.

You read one, and apparently its not a very good one.
Sometimes a bio is more like an attack then it is a literal history.
What you should probably do, is just read the "Wiki" bios, regarding "Saints".

So, Here is what Hildegard actually stated about Jesus..

"""Hildegard's theology held that humanity was redeemed by Christ, who assumed human nature to reconcile people to God.""""
 
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You read one, and apparently its not a very good one.
Sometimes a bio is more like an attack then it is a literal history.
What you should probably do, is just read the "Wiki" bios, regarding "Saints".

So, Here is what Hildegard actually stated about Jesus..

"""Hildegard's theology held that humanity was redeemed by Christ, who assumed human nature to reconcile people to God.""""
I stand corrected.
 

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What about Fenelon?
The reason I ask is that all of these people mentioned seemed to have an overwhelming devotion to Christ. I have read them all and I noticed that none of them spoke anything about doctrine. The RCC also ended up persecuting them all. Lets take a look:

1. MADAME GUYON (1648–1717)
Status:
Persecuted and imprisoned by the RCC (especially French church authorities influenced by Bishop Bossuet).
What happened:
  • She taught a form of mysticism known as Quietism, emphasizing passive prayer and total surrender of the soul to God.
  • Quietism was condemned by the Church as a dangerous spiritual passivity.
  • Arrested in 1688, imprisoned in the Bastille, and placed under house arrest for many years.
  • Her teachings were examined and officially condemned by Catholic authorities.
Conclusion:
she was persecuted and imprisoned by the RCC.



2. MIGUEL (MICHAEL) DE MOLINOS (1628–1696)
Status:
Harshly persecuted, condemned, and imprisoned for life.
What happened:
  • Spanish priest, founder of the Quietist movement.
  • Wrote The Spiritual Guide, promoting interior passivity and silent contemplation.
  • The Inquisition arrested him in 1685.
  • He was forced to confess under pressure, declared a heretic, and his works were banned.
  • Sentenced to life imprisonment, where he died.
Conclusion:
he faced direct persecution by the Inquisition and died in prison.



3. FÉNELON (1651–1715)
Status:
Opposed and condemned, but not imprisoned.
What happened:
  • Archbishop Fénelon sympathized with Madame Guyon’s mystical ideas.
  • Wrote Maxims of the Saints defending a moderate form of Quietism.
  • His work was examined in Rome and partially condemned by Pope Innocent XII in 1699.
  • Fénelon submitted fully and remained in the Church.
Conclusion:
He was doctrinally condemned
, but not physically persecuted or imprisoned.



4. ST. JOHN OF THE CROSS (1542–1591)

Status:
Yes — persecuted, imprisoned, and physically abused by Catholic authorities within his own order, though later canonized.
What happened:
  • He joined Teresa of Ávila to reform the Carmelite order (return to stricter spirituality).
  • The unreformed Carmelite leadership opposed him.
  • Kidnapped by his own order, put on trial, and imprisoned in a small cell in Toledo for about nine months.
  • He was whipped, kept in harsh conditions, and nearly died.
  • He eventually escaped and continued the Discalced Carmelite reform.
  • Later recognized as a Doctor of the Church.
A mention of Francois Fenelon! I came aware of his existence by way of AW Tozer. First, The Knowledge Of The Holy which greatly impressed me, then The Crucified Life with a mention of Fenelon in the introduction. I got a couple compilations of Fenelon letters, Let Go and The Seeking heart. Recently got The Complete Fenelon. Is this mysticism written about here the same as Tozer wrote about, as well as related to Christian Perfection by Fenlon? I've only scratched the surface of Christian Mysticism in my readings, I also managed to get an English translation of the book, Christian Perfection. Before I get in over my head, any cautions?
 

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The reason I ask is that all of these people mentioned seemed to have an overwhelming devotion to Christ. I have read them all and I noticed that none of them spoke anything about doctrine.
Maybe that’s the first thing we could learn from them.