BURIED WITH HIM IN BAPTISM

[Doug]

[COLOSSIANS 2:12 KJV] 12 Buried with him in baptism, wherein also ye are risen with [him] through the faith of the operation of God, who hath raised him from the dead.

This baptism is not water baptism. It is the baptism by the Spirit.........[1CORINTHIANS 12:13 KJV] 13 For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether [we be] Jews or Gentiles, whether [we be] bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit.

That we would be dead and buried with Christ was not revealed before Paul. Not only were we dead and buried, but we also have been raised from the dead.

[COLOSSIANS 2:20 KJV] 20 Wherefore if ye be dead with Christ from the rudiments of the world, why, as though living in the world, are ye subject to ordinances, ........we have been determined to be dead with Christ and to be raised to walk in newness of life.

[GALATIANS 2:20 KJV] 20 I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me........That we have been crucified with Christ, and risen with him was not found outside of the revelations given to Paul.

It is only thru Paul that we could know this.

 

[DJT_47]

[COLOSSIANS 2:12 KJV] 12 Buried with him in baptism, wherein also ye are risen with [him] through the faith of the operation of God, who hath raised him from the dead.

This baptism is not water baptism. It is the baptism by the Spirit.........[1CORINTHIANS 12:13 KJV] 13 For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether [we be] Jews or Gentiles, whether [we be] bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit.

That we would be dead and buried with Christ was not revealed before Paul. Not only were we dead and buried, but we also have been raised from the dead.

[COLOSSIANS 2:20 KJV] 20 Wherefore if ye be dead with Christ from the rudiments of the world, why, as though living in the world, are ye subject to ordinances, ........we have been determined to be dead with Christ and to be raised to walk in newness of life.

[GALATIANS 2:20 KJV] 20 I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me........That we have been crucified with Christ, and risen with him was not found outside of the revelations given to Paul.

It is only thru Paul that we could know this.

One Lord, one faith, one baptism, and it's by water going back to John's baptism of repentance for the remission of sins.

 

[Doug]

One Lord, one faith, one baptism, and it's by water going back to John's baptism of repentance for the remission of sins.

The one baptism is by the Spirit.............[1Co 12:13 KJV] "For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether [we be] Jews or Gentiles, whether [we be] bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit."

 

[DJT_47]

The one baptism is by the Spirit.............[1Co 12:13 KJV] "For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether [we be] Jews or Gentiles, whether [we be] bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit."

In the Greek it's actually IN one Spirit, not BY one Spirit. There is a difference. And the only way sin is removed is by water baptism which is also the point at which a person becomes a member of the body of Christ. Acts 2:38-47

 

[Ezra]

In the Greek it's actually IN one Spirit, not BY one Spirit. There is a difference. And the only way sin is removed is by water baptism which is also the point at which a person becomes a member of the body of Christ. Acts 2:38-47

it doesnt matter if its by one spirit or in one spirit. as long as its of GOD its by my spirit

 

[Ezra]

And the only way sin is removed is by water baptism which is also the point at which a person becomes a member of the body of Christ. Acts 2:38-47

have to disagree the Bible reads with out the shedding of blood there is no remission of sins .. it also tells us we are redeemed by the blood . aint no amount of water gonna take our sins away. we are justified by grace faith and the Blood

 

[Ezra]

The one baptism is by the Spirit.............[1Co 12:13 KJV] "For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether [we be] Jews or Gentiles, whether [we be] bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit."

correct and at this we point we are placed into the Body of Christ sanctified made holy positionaly. then romans 6:22 kicks in we have practical holiness we become a work in progress we are to have fruit into holiness

 

[DJT_47]

have to disagree the Bible reads with out the shedding of blood there is no remission of sins .. it also tells us we are redeemed by the blood . aint no amount of water gonna take our sins away. we are justified by grace faith and the Blood

1 Peter 3:21

21The like figure whereunto even baptism doth also now save us (not the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God,) by the resurrection of Jesus Christ:

Not alone though
1. Belief and faith
2. Repentance
3. Confession of belief as the Ethiopian eunuch did in Acts 8 and per Romans 10:8-10
4. Baptism

 

[Ezra]

1 Peter 3:21

21The like figure whereunto even baptism doth also now save us (not the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God,) by the resurrection of Jesus Christ:

Not alone though
1. Belief and faith
2. Repentance
3. Confession of belief as the Ethiopian eunuch did in Acts 8 and per Romans 10:8-10
4. Baptism

so we remove the blood of jesus got it

 

[DJT_47]

so we remove the blood of jesus got it

Who said that, that's ridiculous, but you must contact the blood and we're baptized into his death and it was at his death that his blood was shed

 

[Ezra]

Who said that, that's ridiculous, but you must contact the blood and we're baptized into his death and it was at his death that his blood was shed

your adding works when you add baptism to complete salvation . when i plainly showed you justified by grace blood faith.. the theif on the cross was not baptized

 

[DJT_47]

your adding works when you add baptism to complete salvation . when i plainly showed you justified by grace blood faith.. the theif on the cross was not baptized

That's dumb. Baptism is a command to be obeyed, clear and simple.

Mk 16:15-16

15And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature. 16He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.

The Lord’s own words. Believe or reject them, your choice.
Belief + baptism = salvation

 

[Ezra]

That's dumb. Baptism is a command to be obeyed, clear and simple.

the dumb part as you say adding water to salvation baptism follows after one is saved. you can cherry pick scriptures all day long.. water baptism does not save never has never will . see i never denied baptism just your theology of it saving you/ if a person calls upon the Lord to be saved and dies before baptism.. they are still saved.. do you think Jesus needed to be saved ?

 

[DJT_47]

the dumb part as you say adding water to salvation baptism follows after one is saved. you can cherry pick scriptures all day long.. water baptism does not save never has never will . see i never denied baptism just your theology of it saving you/ if a person calls upon the Lord to be saved and dies before baptism.. they are still saved.. do you think Jesus needed to be saved ?

It's impossible to be saved while you're still in sin, and you're not saved until baptized into the body of Christ as the scriptures CLEARLY teach repeatedly. I'll say no more and let the scriptures speak themselves. Goodbye

 

[Ezra]

It's impossible to be saved while you're still in sin, and you're not saved until baptized into the body of Christ as the scriptures CLEARLY teach repeatedly. I'll say no more and let the scriptures speak themselves. Goodbye

lol who are you trying to convince me or your self..? if me its not working do tell where you get your bible so as i dont get one .. your so far out in left field i doubt you find home plate. do tell how a sinner gets saved? because this guy was a sinner and got saved baptized weeks later.. you must be part Calvinist

 

[Prycejosh1987]

Facts. The plan of Jesus is pick up the cross everyday and follow Him into everlasting life.

 

[Doug]

It's impossible to be saved while you're still in sin,

[Eph 2:5 KJV] "Even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us together with Christ, (by grace ye are saved;)"

 

[DJT_47]

[Eph 2:5 KJV] "Even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us together with Christ, (by grace ye are saved;)"

So, what is your point by posting this scripture? Are you insinuating we need to do nothing at all?

 

[Doug]

So, what is your point by posting this scripture? Are you insinuating we need to do nothing at all?

We are in sins when God imputes Christ's righteousness to us, We do nothing but believe that he died for our sins and rose again for our justification. After we are justified, we obey his commandments given in Paul's epistles for reward and to please him. Salvation is a gift.

 

[DJT_47]

We are in sins when God imputes Christ's righteousness to us, We do nothing but believe that he died for our sins and rose again for our justification. After we are justified, we obey his commandments given in Paul's epistles for reward and to please him. Salvation is a gift.

That's what you say but that's not specifically what this scripture says. My statement still remains. If you're in sin you can't be saved until the sin is removed, so, what scripture tells you how/when and at what point your sins are removed? It's not the one you posted.